It took me about 30 yrs of skating to figure this out, doh. directly related to your last video, once i started landing kickflips and realizing that i still wasn't doing the kickflips i wanted to do i started experimenting with putting my flicking foot in all sorts of different places, just experimenting, and it gave me so much more confidence and understanding of the trick.
I’ve had a similar journey with a few tricks. Heelflip a were a big one. I had a really ugly one for years. One day I decided to mess with my foot positions, posture…etc., and they slowly started to look and feel better.
Thank you for this video. So many teachers on here use a "one size fits all" approach. I'm 6'3, 240 lbs, with a size 14 shoe. I always have to do tricks differently than most skaters.
I think this is a positive and a negative for skating. You can find different ways to land the same trick. But, you might have to experiment a while, before you find a way that works for you. Happy holidays!
I've experienced this and seen this over and over! the same way you can create muscle memory for landing tricks, you can form muscle memory for landing 1 foot on it or not landing altogether
First off, Hapoy Holidays to you and you family and viewers, I really dig checking out your sponsor gear, and I am learning to adapt to my environment, skating the park fast and fluid, even power slides on the hip and fly outs, progressing a lot lately, thanks for all your videos, Norman🙏🏻🤙🏼😎
Hi, that’s a pretty interesting discussion. I‘m beginning to skateboard and find myself often to repeat the same mistakes over and over again. So far I discovered three main reasons. 1) it takes time to correct a movement pattern even if it’s recognised as unfunctional. 2) a trust in collected information about technique and the hope of working myself through iterations and 3) understanding of proper and improper approaches needs to be trained in the same way as the movement apparatus so that a possible change in strategy which is not just random is depending on experience as well. How shall I know of its weak technique, wrong strategie or no technique at all, when I’m missing the experience to interpret the direct feedback of my fails? So I think Rookies like me need to learn from what they see others do, hear explanations and reflections and own experience. Thanks a lot for this video!
There are a couple of ways to figure out your technique. The first is to watch multiple people doing that trick, and try their methods. This is what I did, when learning. It was the only way back then. The other, is to pay attention during your sessions. If you’ve been trying a trick for ages, and failing the same way, start experimenting with foot placements, the way you use your body…etc. The early stage is tough. But, it gets a bit easier once you find your rhythm. Good luck!
I have loved stripe shirts too. They're like the heshy skater punk staple. I have a shirt that has duane peters on it and it says destroy. I don't mind looking like a punk, I'd even wear those knee pants too. I remember a lady told me once, "wear less dark colors" and I was like "but I really never don't?!" I can't do a band shirt for most of the time. Like if I'm skating, I really don't need to think about how the new york dolls was such a great band imo, everytime I look down, like that crap can still wait. You'll have better results wearing that to go out. Although feeling good is part of the hype too. But I ain't trying to fit in an x-small to go skate right now. The other day I bought a pink longsleeve dgk shirt with these cats hanging around the trash can (the one counting bread reminds me of my oldest half brother lmao) and I put it on at the end of my sesh when the other one was soaked, and ollied up a ledge before going home, and it was fun. It sounds easy but it was a major achievement for me at that moment. I really don't care about lemmy at that point either, unless I can actually hear him yelling 'fast and loose' lol or whatever other funny-lame innuendo, with music on at full bore to skate to. But I don't need or want that either. Anyway! I use Jessup but because I'm afraid of mob. I feel like the courser grit will just rip my shoe, especially non-suede chrome tanned leather. To me it's a diminishing returns at some point. (I use a whole sheet of jessup ultra grip clear tape every time I set up a new board, I'm not right) You're gonna hate me for this next one. Chuck Taylor classics are fine but imo not for skating. Need ollie patch and a real skate soles. Those diamonds and material on the bottom are a no from me. I don't know how you do it. I wore chucks in middle school right before I got into skating, there's a video that says you are chaotic good if you wear those, that's probably what I was haha. But then I came to school in the ellington shoe and my friend went nuts. Some of the other shoes in this video look really good though. I like the black ones with the big *> you're wearing towards the end. Also, I have those Old Bones knee braces. They feel good but my feet and ankles swell if I fall asleep in them haha. I got the two of them and putting them on after a rough skate sesh, you can feel all of the discomfort melt away. But I think the donut on the knee is kind of annoying. I find myself thinking if it was a hole instead, I would prefer that. That way, if it shifts, you feel less scrunching all around the brace. But mine don't have the hinge or the coil so maybe that's why. Recently I revised my kickflips to point my foot more towards the nose, and after recently seeing ginwoo doing them like this I felt pretty good about it. At some point I wanted my kickflip setup to look like an ollie setup and that's just not realistic. I also set up a second board with softer bushings. (It has clear mob grip on this one but it's not too course for me.) I know I said hard bushings skate well, and they do, but sometimes you can use a break and practice different things. There's days where harder bushings feel like I'm compressing my ankle on the front and hurting the edge of the shin bone a bit more. But I still prefer the harder bushings, which I was not that surprised about. Overall, I kinda enjoy hearing you talk about skating. Sometimes it's not the technique, but your ability. A guy who does 50lb curls, is doing the same trick but at a higher difficulty than a guy who just started at 7lbs. My foot for switch can't flick with the same finesse as the one I've skated for years on an off, and that's a fact jack. I have to build up that muscle memory. I scrolled down and saw some complaining, if you feel the burn that means it's working hahaha. mahalo
Personally, I always use the scientific method when I’m having trouble. So, in my case, since I was having trouble riding switch, I began focusing on my knees and how low they were bent. Once I started adjusting that aspect, my balance dramatically increased but, on the other hand, I felt it and that was a great feeling! It doesn’t mean they looked good but that will improve over time.
Do you have any advice for flipping out of a tailstall, or tailslide? Like power ollie kickflips. I've wanted that trick since I was a kid, my friend used to be able to do it. I'm not even close to understanding what I'm doing wrong. I feel like an anime character that gets told to go punch a boulder until I find my chi or something.
Make sure that your tail slide is proper and controlled. The problem I see often, when people try to flip out, is that the slide/grind trick isn’t controlled enough yet. Other than that, I’d need to see.
I noticed in the video you give advice that applies to my question. Also, I got half a taildrop flip, half a fs tailslide, and like 50 failed back noseslides...that one is not easy without a good ollie. And my shoe felt kinda too soft on top. My hardware sticks out and was messing with the shoe I think too. Also a kicker can make it look like you ollie really high, but that is not true if you can't already ollie really high. I'm still working on doing that but after ollie'ing the one I have at the lowest setting it is pretty much the same thing as my ollies and I found the further I made a gap after it, like with another board, I would start to turn frontside after a certain point. That's the type of thing that happens when one reaches their limit. Like I can not do some 4 stairs, and 5's definitely the limit for me. Also you know when you keep landing weird and not perfect? Like you go off the side of the ramp when you wanna ollie far. I need better ollies, I feel sometimes like I am pulling the board up to catch up with my body and not kicking it out like I want to be. I have practiced even with turning the back foot inwards but I never know if the board will follow. A few of my ollies are better, where the back of the board comes back up and touches the back foot. Like I said I need to find a way to countersink the holes on the deck too. Also I can 50-50 a curb but on my slightly taller box I keep going into either a nose-stall, nosegrind or a 5-0 (kinda have to be trying for this). 50-50 makes me feel really self conscious about my ollie too. But one of those nosegrinds I really threw the board down hard and it slid a little bit like a nose manual, and I figured maybe on metal it likes it when you skate harder. finally, I think one of the tricks that scares me, is front pop shoves because they work without me trying anything new at all. I literally don't know why I have this trick sometimes. I feel like I didn't even work for it! But my back pop shoves have evolved, like from scraping the board, to popping and shoving. I'm not a skilled skater, I've been skating again for like 3 months, but I really felt like I had to go for those back noseslides. Skating is as much about expressing yourself as much as it is about focus or hard work or whatever. Just because you don't have to scream out to the world what you're thinking doesn't mean you're not feeling it. Like you have to feel where is a good foot placement to kickflip when you're in a tailslide. Sometimes you know you have to try something different. It's worst if you don't know where to start. But probably by breaking whatever trick down. Sometimes you can visualize something really well, and you're like I so got this. There comes a point if you practice something where everything you learned is enough to do it, and it's a feeling too. You know when it's gonna come out spicy!@@NormanWoods
Hey man. In my last session I know what I did wrong also. Those 50 back noseslide attempts felt low impact but they were not. Let me explain why, doing the same movement can give you repetitive stress injuries. Also, you might already know of the bursa all over the body. I found I even had a tiny bursa on the tip of my knee. I knew I hadn't done anything to hurt the major things, like acl, etc. What I actually have been hurting is the bursa as well. I put on a wrist guard a few weeks ago and they have that plastic guard under it, so when you fall on street, you slide forward on your elbows and knees. That also killed my session that day, and would explain the bursa on one of my kneecaps. I have a video of myself ollie'ing off a four-stair like 3 weeks ago and chest sliding into nope I'm not doing this anymore today. The 50 back noseslides were such a failure because as I fail to raise the tail above the nose and lock it in, I would ollie rocket and miss the ledge with my front truck completely going over the obstacle so I would have to balance on the back leg suddenly. This is not good for my knees in general (femural head too). I don't have as much muscle as I could have so my joints also take some stress. Repetitive movements is hard, if it's not working or you don't know what to try, you should try something different altogether sometimes. Hell yeah dude, you know what you're talking about. There is years of actual wisdom (nevermind trial and error) in this one video alone... I can relate to some of it. Like the first rookie mistake you said is skate lower or something like that. I also noticed myself, if I skate lower (I call it a double squat lol) I can lock into curb grinds and land a gap with my knees bent 100% better. I have not found the middle point, but there must be one too. I still land with my legs locked a bit straight but everything can be of use. I have the mental notes. It's not a 'trick tip' either but valuable all the same.
Im trying to learn how to ollie onto a curb the last time I tried I clipped back trucks and slipped back wards but caught my self with my feet instead of slamming since then I keep hesitating to land it
Filming helps a lot! Being able to see yourself lets you break down your movements and figure out what is, and what isn’t working. We’re lucky to be skating at this moment.
What you said about kickflips and stability got me thinking. Even if I correct every rookie mistake, if I'm not stable I won't land the trick. I'm 5 years in and still struggling with this. How do I get rid of that 'jumping in a rowboat' effect whenever I try to pop? I've tried some exercises from channels like The Daily Push but it's been super-slow progress for me
At 20.24 a chart comes on the screen twice very quick with strange letters and pentagrams and a skull imma ask super directly do you do witchcraft or anything of the sort because if so I’m never watching your channel agian I hate witchcraft and warlocks i hope this is not the case but why would you have that on the screen it’s intentional because you had to edit it in there
That has nothing to do with skateboarding if you like demonic imagery then like it but stop tryna slip it in the video because people like me are aware and I’m on ya top about it until you tell me some good reason because the devil is garbage and so are his people and anyone who follows him I love your content but idk if your gonna do this goin forward tell me so I can not watch I make videos bro you had to edit that in and it was like ten times in one video stop it fr bro
It took me about 30 yrs of skating to figure this out, doh. directly related to your last video, once i started landing kickflips and realizing that i still wasn't doing the kickflips i wanted to do i started experimenting with putting my flicking foot in all sorts of different places, just experimenting, and it gave me so much more confidence and understanding of the trick.
I’ve had a similar journey with a few tricks. Heelflip a were a big one. I had a really ugly one for years. One day I decided to mess with my foot positions, posture…etc., and they slowly started to look and feel better.
Happy holidays everyone !!
Happy holidays 👊🏾🙏🏾
Happy Holidays Norman, more vids in 2024 please! Cheers
Yessir! Happy holidays!
@@NormanWoods thanks!!
Thank you for this video. So many teachers on here use a "one size fits all" approach. I'm 6'3, 240 lbs, with a size 14 shoe. I always have to do tricks differently than most skaters.
I think this is a positive and a negative for skating. You can find different ways to land the same trick. But, you might have to experiment a while, before you find a way that works for you. Happy holidays!
Hey man great advice! Filmmaking is getting better to my man. Keep it up! 🎥❤
Thank you sir! That’s the toughest aspect of all of this for me.
Norman is the goat
Great points about techniques
Thank you!
Happy holidays!
Happy Holidays!!!
@@NormanWoods I appreciate it bro!
I've experienced this and seen this over and over! the same way you can create muscle memory for landing tricks, you can form muscle memory for landing 1 foot on it or not landing altogether
First off, Hapoy Holidays to you and you family and viewers, I really dig checking out your sponsor gear, and I am learning to adapt to my environment, skating the park fast and fluid, even power slides on the hip and fly outs, progressing a lot lately, thanks for all your videos, Norman🙏🏻🤙🏼😎
Happy holidays!!! Thank you very much. Every environment has its unique challenges. It can be fun to learn to deal with them.
Hi, that’s a pretty interesting discussion. I‘m beginning to skateboard and find myself often to repeat the same mistakes over and over again. So far I discovered three main reasons. 1) it takes time to correct a movement pattern even if it’s recognised as unfunctional. 2) a trust in collected information about technique and the hope of working myself through iterations and 3) understanding of proper and improper approaches needs to be trained in the same way as the movement apparatus so that a possible change in strategy which is not just random is depending on experience as well. How shall I know of its weak technique, wrong strategie or no technique at all, when I’m missing the experience to interpret the direct feedback of my fails? So I think Rookies like me need to learn from what they see others do, hear explanations and reflections and own experience. Thanks a lot for this video!
There are a couple of ways to figure out your technique. The first is to watch multiple people doing that trick, and try their methods. This is what I did, when learning. It was the only way back then. The other, is to pay attention during your sessions. If you’ve been trying a trick for ages, and failing the same way, start experimenting with foot placements, the way you use your body…etc. The early stage is tough. But, it gets a bit easier once you find your rhythm. Good luck!
Gabba Gabba Hey Ho Let's Go! Happy Holidays!
Happy Holidays 🎉
Hey man love your videos and tips they’ve helped me so much thank you😊
I'm happy they're useful to you. Thank you for watching. Happy Holidays!!
I have loved stripe shirts too. They're like the heshy skater punk staple. I have a shirt that has duane peters on it and it says destroy. I don't mind looking like a punk, I'd even wear those knee pants too. I remember a lady told me once, "wear less dark colors" and I was like "but I really never don't?!" I can't do a band shirt for most of the time. Like if I'm skating, I really don't need to think about how the new york dolls was such a great band imo, everytime I look down, like that crap can still wait. You'll have better results wearing that to go out. Although feeling good is part of the hype too. But I ain't trying to fit in an x-small to go skate right now. The other day I bought a pink longsleeve dgk shirt with these cats hanging around the trash can (the one counting bread reminds me of my oldest half brother lmao) and I put it on at the end of my sesh when the other one was soaked, and ollied up a ledge before going home, and it was fun. It sounds easy but it was a major achievement for me at that moment. I really don't care about lemmy at that point either, unless I can actually hear him yelling 'fast and loose' lol or whatever other funny-lame innuendo, with music on at full bore to skate to. But I don't need or want that either. Anyway!
I use Jessup but because I'm afraid of mob. I feel like the courser grit will just rip my shoe, especially non-suede chrome tanned leather. To me it's a diminishing returns at some point. (I use a whole sheet of jessup ultra grip clear tape every time I set up a new board, I'm not right) You're gonna hate me for this next one. Chuck Taylor classics are fine but imo not for skating. Need ollie patch and a real skate soles. Those diamonds and material on the bottom are a no from me. I don't know how you do it. I wore chucks in middle school right before I got into skating, there's a video that says you are chaotic good if you wear those, that's probably what I was haha. But then I came to school in the ellington shoe and my friend went nuts. Some of the other shoes in this video look really good though. I like the black ones with the big *> you're wearing towards the end. Also, I have those Old Bones knee braces. They feel good but my feet and ankles swell if I fall asleep in them haha. I got the two of them and putting them on after a rough skate sesh, you can feel all of the discomfort melt away. But I think the donut on the knee is kind of annoying. I find myself thinking if it was a hole instead, I would prefer that. That way, if it shifts, you feel less scrunching all around the brace. But mine don't have the hinge or the coil so maybe that's why.
Recently I revised my kickflips to point my foot more towards the nose, and after recently seeing ginwoo doing them like this I felt pretty good about it. At some point I wanted my kickflip setup to look like an ollie setup and that's just not realistic. I also set up a second board with softer bushings. (It has clear mob grip on this one but it's not too course for me.) I know I said hard bushings skate well, and they do, but sometimes you can use a break and practice different things. There's days where harder bushings feel like I'm compressing my ankle on the front and hurting the edge of the shin bone a bit more. But I still prefer the harder bushings, which I was not that surprised about. Overall, I kinda enjoy hearing you talk about skating. Sometimes it's not the technique, but your ability. A guy who does 50lb curls, is doing the same trick but at a higher difficulty than a guy who just started at 7lbs. My foot for switch can't flick with the same finesse as the one I've skated for years on an off, and that's a fact jack. I have to build up that muscle memory. I scrolled down and saw some complaining, if you feel the burn that means it's working hahaha. mahalo
Personally, I always use the scientific method when I’m having trouble. So, in my case, since I was having trouble riding switch, I began focusing on my knees and how low they were bent. Once I started adjusting that aspect, my balance dramatically increased but, on the other hand, I felt it and that was a great feeling! It doesn’t mean they looked good but that will improve over time.
I’m that guy trying kickflip every time
Do you have any advice for flipping out of a tailstall, or tailslide? Like power ollie kickflips. I've wanted that trick since I was a kid, my friend used to be able to do it. I'm not even close to understanding what I'm doing wrong. I feel like an anime character that gets told to go punch a boulder until I find my chi or something.
Make sure that your tail slide is proper and controlled. The problem I see often, when people try to flip out, is that the slide/grind trick isn’t controlled enough yet. Other than that, I’d need to see.
you're probably right. I need to work on those tailslides. Thanks! Have a good day.
@@NormanWoods
I noticed in the video you give advice that applies to my question. Also, I got half a taildrop flip, half a fs tailslide, and like 50 failed back noseslides...that one is not easy without a good ollie. And my shoe felt kinda too soft on top. My hardware sticks out and was messing with the shoe I think too.
Also a kicker can make it look like you ollie really high, but that is not true if you can't already ollie really high. I'm still working on doing that but after ollie'ing the one I have at the lowest setting it is pretty much the same thing as my ollies and I found the further I made a gap after it, like with another board, I would start to turn frontside after a certain point. That's the type of thing that happens when one reaches their limit. Like I can not do some 4 stairs, and 5's definitely the limit for me. Also you know when you keep landing weird and not perfect? Like you go off the side of the ramp when you wanna ollie far. I need better ollies, I feel sometimes like I am pulling the board up to catch up with my body and not kicking it out like I want to be. I have practiced even with turning the back foot inwards but I never know if the board will follow. A few of my ollies are better, where the back of the board comes back up and touches the back foot. Like I said I need to find a way to countersink the holes on the deck too.
Also I can 50-50 a curb but on my slightly taller box I keep going into either a nose-stall, nosegrind or a 5-0 (kinda have to be trying for this). 50-50 makes me feel really self conscious about my ollie too. But one of those nosegrinds I really threw the board down hard and it slid a little bit like a nose manual, and I figured maybe on metal it likes it when you skate harder.
finally, I think one of the tricks that scares me, is front pop shoves because they work without me trying anything new at all. I literally don't know why I have this trick sometimes. I feel like I didn't even work for it! But my back pop shoves have evolved, like from scraping the board, to popping and shoving.
I'm not a skilled skater, I've been skating again for like 3 months, but I really felt like I had to go for those back noseslides. Skating is as much about expressing yourself as much as it is about focus or hard work or whatever. Just because you don't have to scream out to the world what you're thinking doesn't mean you're not feeling it. Like you have to feel where is a good foot placement to kickflip when you're in a tailslide.
Sometimes you know you have to try something different. It's worst if you don't know where to start. But probably by breaking whatever trick down. Sometimes you can visualize something really well, and you're like I so got this. There comes a point if you practice something where everything you learned is enough to do it, and it's a feeling too. You know when it's gonna come out spicy!@@NormanWoods
Hey man. In my last session I know what I did wrong also. Those 50 back noseslide attempts felt low impact but they were not. Let me explain why, doing the same movement can give you repetitive stress injuries. Also, you might already know of the bursa all over the body. I found I even had a tiny bursa on the tip of my knee. I knew I hadn't done anything to hurt the major things, like acl, etc. What I actually have been hurting is the bursa as well. I put on a wrist guard a few weeks ago and they have that plastic guard under it, so when you fall on street, you slide forward on your elbows and knees. That also killed my session that day, and would explain the bursa on one of my kneecaps. I have a video of myself ollie'ing off a four-stair like 3 weeks ago and chest sliding into nope I'm not doing this anymore today.
The 50 back noseslides were such a failure because as I fail to raise the tail above the nose and lock it in, I would ollie rocket and miss the ledge with my front truck completely going over the obstacle so I would have to balance on the back leg suddenly. This is not good for my knees in general (femural head too). I don't have as much muscle as I could have so my joints also take some stress. Repetitive movements is hard, if it's not working or you don't know what to try, you should try something different altogether sometimes. Hell yeah dude, you know what you're talking about. There is years of actual wisdom (nevermind trial and error) in this one video alone...
I can relate to some of it. Like the first rookie mistake you said is skate lower or something like that. I also noticed myself, if I skate lower (I call it a double squat lol) I can lock into curb grinds and land a gap with my knees bent 100% better. I have not found the middle point, but there must be one too. I still land with my legs locked a bit straight but everything can be of use. I have the mental notes. It's not a 'trick tip' either but valuable all the same.
Im trying to learn how to ollie onto a curb the last time I tried I clipped back trucks and slipped back wards but caught my self with my feet instead of slamming since then I keep hesitating to land it
The nollie dude you were helping, thats due to not having a second set of eyes, i heard filming helps if you dont got a knowledgeable skater.
Filming helps a lot! Being able to see yourself lets you break down your movements and figure out what is, and what isn’t working. We’re lucky to be skating at this moment.
What you said about kickflips and stability got me thinking. Even if I correct every rookie mistake, if I'm not stable I won't land the trick. I'm 5 years in and still struggling with this. How do I get rid of that 'jumping in a rowboat' effect whenever I try to pop? I've tried some exercises from channels like The Daily Push but it's been super-slow progress for me
maybe tighten your trucks and I advise to learn the fundamentals switch like pushing, kickturning bothways on a bank, reverts etc.
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At 20.24 a chart comes on the screen twice very quick with strange letters and pentagrams and a skull imma ask super directly do you do witchcraft or anything of the sort because if so I’m never watching your channel agian I hate witchcraft and warlocks i hope this is not the case but why would you have that on the screen it’s intentional because you had to edit it in there
That has nothing to do with skateboarding if you like demonic imagery then like it but stop tryna slip it in the video because people like me are aware and I’m on ya top about it until you tell me some good reason because the devil is garbage and so are his people and anyone who follows him I love your content but idk if your gonna do this goin forward tell me so I can not watch I make videos bro you had to edit that in and it was like ten times in one video stop it fr bro
Fr what’s up with that