@Diamond Leigh It's on tape. She didn't run screaming to the police, I know who killed my poor husband!!!! She said they were laughing stressed. How did she know? Guilty, guilty, guilty. And we are sick of hearing about this case.
@@CJ-jx4bq it popped up on my favorite crime show. Some things you can't avoid, like little trolls on the internet. Just everywhere. Mind your business.
@@tomaskuli177 A UA-cam video with a segment from the Today show popped up on your favourite crime show? Pray tell, which one is your favourite? Also calling me a troll because you commented that you're sick of hearing about a case on a video clearly dedicated to it, is just bizarre.
It was not an affair. It's straight up paedophilia. Imagine how this scenario would have been interpreted if this had been a male teacher and a 15 / 16 year old girl.
let's get the police involved, when my husband turns up dead, while having an affair with a kid. as a guy, you're thinking how dumb, as a woman, she knew no one would even bring it up
She's too invested in her Little Miss Innocent act. Plus, she's got a nice life in prison - 3 meals a day, education at her disposal, TV, recreation... All while she doesn't have to do anything except pretend to be innocent and ruin the life of Greg Smart's family. She'll never back down, she has too much riding on her current fake version of events.
It may well be true but there is no proof of it. It's the story we've been told, it fits perfectly and makes sense but there is zero evidence this happen.
@Diamond Leigh ok so because the boy stold a car radio and little thing but Pam groom to my a killer a innocent women don't do what she did only camera she cryed you sound stupid she was molester all school seen them yah stupid that kid cryed more then she did stupid she in a week got he's insurance I believe him I don't believe her she a narrsictic
@Jim AItruist stupid? Really. Plenty of innocent people have been put away for life for a crime which lacks evidence but has a believable story of their involvement, hence it's easy for a jury to believe a person must be guilty based on convincing story .. However this case had no actual evidence. fact
The man who held a knife to his throat was freed in 2-15 as was the shooter. They weren't innocent children but kids w/jail records. They heartlessly murdered Greg Smart.
Tony Cole no pam isn’t innocent and she’s going to spend the rest of her life in prison, she’ll never get out, ever. and if she were to get out she’d probably be killed herself
I whole heartedly agree with you. There is a journalist by the name Diane Diamond that is determined to see her freed. Who knows what her motive is. Maybe fame and much more. Who can't see that the this Pamela woman is a dirty piece trash in every manner
It's so interesting that Tom Nickels and Diane Dimond have so little concern for Greg's family. It's like the victim doesn't matter to them. I know I shouldn't be surprised with people like this, but I still am.
I whole heartedly agree with you. There is a journalist by the name Diane Diamond that is determined to see her freed. Who knows what her motive is. Maybe fame and much more. Who can't see that the this Pamela woman is a dirty piece trash in every manner
Totally agree. In the documentary, She actually compared herself to Jackie Onassis when speaking of why she was cold after Greggs death. Total narcissist.
Sue TomFordLaw are you serious?? How did she compare herself to Jackie Onassis? Which documentary was this? She’s seriously such a narcissist!! I hate that she considers herself a victim... Gregg and his family are the only victims! I love how Diane says that Pamela is smart a few times... no she sure isn’t!
In the 3 part series just aired on the ID channel Diane stated that many people viewed her as cold for not crying at the funeral. She replied something to the effect of “ Well it depends what lens you’re looking through....Jackie Onassis didn’t cry at President Kennedy’s funeral...” I’m thinking “Honey, you ain’t no Jackie O...” I agree about Gregg and his family...they are the victims and no matter how much time has passed that will never change. She is exactly where she belongs.
I also feel a little, not a lot, bad for the kid. He should be in jail, no question, but she definitely manipulated him, a child, to do it. He made the choice, and is responsible for it, but I still wonder, had she never been his teacher, where would he be now?
Izzy's Mom 1 yeah I can understand that. I have a little bit of sympathy for him too. I mean obviously he knew it was wrong but he was also being told by Pamela that he was abusive and whatnot. Even Gregg’s brother said he felt a little sorry for Flynn because he saw that he was completely manipulated by Pam. They also aren’t opposed to Flynn being paroled, and I agree with them on that. He did 25 years and he’s shown remorse and that’s more than we can say about Pam. I think the justice system handled this case correctly.
Pam with every breath admits to the "affair," However that's not why she is spending the rest of her life in prison for. She's in prison for Being an Accomplice, ~ Conspiracy, & Witness Tampering.
Going back 30 years It wasn't really frowned upon dating a minor. I recall boys and girls at school dating older women/men and no one including parents thought anything of it. Not like it is now where you'd be arrested. Of course dating someone in authority that's always been a big no no
@@Jane_Louise_b72 Then why did Mary Kay Letourneau go to jail? At least she didn't have her husband murdered. Pam is a psychopath who had Greg killed for the insurance money. $140 K.
I went to school with Pame. Sadly greg and his now deceased parents are buried near some of my family members. So tragic and my heart goes out to his surviving brother and his family...senseless tragedy!
This guy is trying to defend Pam but has never heard the tapes? REALLY? There are parts of the tapes that are hard to understand, but most Of those tapes are very clear. Pam convicted herself. Some investigator. PUH. He sounds unconvincing and ridiculous.
When people are talking, it can be different than a transcript. People talk over each other and interrupt. She could say, "right" but not necessarily to the last thing said. I agree that tapes, at some points, sound like she is guilty. I still support her being freed because it's been so long and she is not dangerous at this time.
I don’t know who she is, but pretty much every media personality is a lot dumber than they think they are (and are thus easy to fool), as well as having an agenda. A lot of them are narcissists themselves, so they don’t see the narcissism in front of them.
Oh my God I know her last parole hearing was pathetic I was meeting an FBI agent shut the f****** b**** you killed your kid he shot the other two just say it how old are you now?
I whole heartedly agree with you. There is a journalist by the name Diane Diamond that is determined to see her freed. Who knows what her motive is. Maybe fame and much more. Who can't see that the this Pamela woman is a dirty piece trash in every manner
He was a kid that was manipulated by a adult female teacher. He got the right sentence and so did she. When a adult manipulates a child. The adult holds more responsibility
Cherie Smith kids are easy manipulated, easy one that is very impressionable. He paid the price and from an interview that I watched, Greg Smart family agreed that he displayed tremendous remorse. Pam on the other had still has not taken responsibility for her actions and still proclaims her innocence. She deserves to spend the rest of her life behind bars.
S R She's not a reporter. Her show is opinion based just like all other talk shows. If you want an unbiased account you need to consult a news source. Plenty of actual reporters covered this story. It's all online :)
Also, this is a person who was found guilty by a jury. In the eyes of the law she is guilty, she did it. Saying she is a murderer is legally correct, so no bias, in my opinion. Plus, as the other poster stated, this isn't news coverage, it's a talk show.
At 16, he should have known murder was wrong. Additionally, there was no sexual relationship between Pam Smart and the other 3 teen boys who committed the murder. Those guys were committing a "thrill" murder.
Yes--they were along for the ride--a thrill ride. But none of those teenagers had anything above the neck that worked. Pamela was the mastermind--she was, and is diabolical. Those kids--especially Billy Flynn--are lucky that Pam wasn't moonlighting as a stripper in some club frequented by outlaw biker gangs--a talent that I can see her as. With her ruthlessness, her coldness, she would have arranged to have one or more of those boys silenced--forever!
It just so happens that I worked at a Printed Circuit Board plant in Derry NH at that time. Pam Smarts' best friend and her best friends' sister also worked at the same plant. Her best friend stood by Pam, while her sister told me that the rest of the family believed Pam to be guilty. The best friends' sister told me that the evening after Greg's murder Pam was out partying. Pam tole her "Life goes on." , or something to that affect. The best friends' sister, and the rest of us she told her account of the aftermath to, couldn't understand how Pam could go out and party the night after her husband was murdered. Now, you tell me Pam is innocent. I don't think so.
Mmm That wouldn't add up because Pam's family have routinely shown their faces to the media, standing by her and protesting her innocence. why bother if they all think she's guilty?
@@Jane_Louise_b72 It's the Hollydays, ~ Go help people in your community, Go Bring Toys to the Children's Hospital, This will bring you more "Joy",...than Pam will ever give to you.,
@@morleyyan3414 Oh Hit a nerve have I? You're not happy unless someone is backing your opinion. Perhaps helping the community is what you should be doing. It's your bright idea and it suggests your subconsciousness is telling you you're not doing enough..
Please! Diane Diamond you should know better. Affair??? Please don’t use that word to describe the sexual assault, grooming and manipulation of a minor by an adult educator whose salary was paid with tax payer dollars.
Five reasons why Pam will never see Freedom, #1 If released, What's the point of plea bargains. #2 If released, Why have State Mandatory Sentences. #3 If released, That means all of her lies & accusations worked for freedom. #4 Testimony from 4 people & her own voice, words, vocabulary & her own incrimination. #5 Never taking responsibility, Never Apologized or show any remorse for all the Harm, Grief & Pain she caused, & Especially Causing the death of someone's Child.
The evidence is overwhelming that she did plan the murder. All 3 kids said the same things; none of them are exactly rocket scientists. Billy Flynn loved getting laid by a pretty adult teacher. Sometimes the truth is the truth, even if opportunists like Tom Nickels and Diane Dimond pretend otherwise. Those two just want their 15 minutes of fame, even when it comes at the expense of Greg Smart's family. Shame on them!
I feel sorry her parents raising the devil. Smart won't admit her guilt even it would give her a chance at a parole hearing. She would rather stay in prison then admit her guilt. Pamela Smart you should be called Pamela Dumb. I also feel sorry for Gregg Smart and his family and friends, they never got to spend any holidays or see Gregg get older. The only time they get to see Gregg is at his grave.
The central point here from a strictly legal point of view is the fact that the jury was not sequestered, amidst a tsunami of daily and wildly prejudicial news coverage. After court hours there were many cases of reporters from WMUR-TV 9 talking with jurors during the trial, and an instance after Billy Flynn's tearful confession of a reporter from CH 9 standing next to him in the courthouse holding area bathroom by the back entrance as Flynn asked him "How'm I doin?" By the norms of the US justice system and by simple logic and morality this woman deserves a commutation of sentence.
This won't be a popular opinion, but I'm throwing it out there anyway. I haven't read every word of the transcripts, but I didn't find the highlighted conversations between Cecelia and Pamela to be all that compelling. I haven't seen anything that constitutes a confession by Pamela on the wired conversations that leads me to believe that she, in fact, asked these boys (or Billy) to commit the murder of Greg. If she had, I would understand the prosecutions feeling that the evidence was overwhelming regarding her guilt, but I haven't seen or heard it. I only hear the prosecution saying that it was overwhelming, but that doesn't make it so. I believe the relationship between Billy and Pamela is what "hung her" in the eyes of most, but that relationship, as bad as it was, doesn't equal life w/o parole. Beyond that, I don't believe that she would continue sitting in prison declaring her innocence of being the mastermind, knowing that that is the one detail that keeps her from being considered for a hearing to change her sentence. Her continued denial of constructing the murder plot is what stands between her and another hearing, so what, beyond actual innocence, would cause someone to so staunchly refuse to admit something she's been paying for for thirty years? I personally believe there is much more reason to consider the idea that she was not involved in the actions of the teenagers that night. The fact that they also had months and months to put their story together pointing at Pamela, is also really concerning. Just my two cents.
As a side note, at this point I think many people are more influenced by Nicole Kidman's portrayal of Pamela Smart and the "Hollywood facts" that were interjected into the movie, than the actual people and circumstances involved at trial.
L miss Megan. She was a powerhouse. No reason she should of been fired. Today morning shows not the same. I live in NH about a half an hour from Derry. Shocking case.
I remember Billy Flynn's testimony and I cried and so did even the victim her husband's Brothers forgave Billy Flynn they were in tears to. It shows you nowadays how teachers are sleeping with students both sexes you know your first love is your first love no excuses just saying she prayed on that kid they were poor a thousand a piece
Let me be clear ; She Was NOT a teacher! She was a volunteer at the school. This was 30 Yrs ago NOT "Nowadays" and btw there are Great respectable teachers out there too. You only hear about the few disgusting ones. You don't hear about all the ones who devote themselves wholeheartedly to their students that are superb role models.
I was a bartender for 20 years so I worked with a lot of teachers who had to get second jobs because they ain't paid s*** and I've always voiced my opinion on that let's just make that clear but thank you
Pamela said: "Well, so then I'll have to say, "No, I didn't" and then they're either gonna believe me or they are gonna believe J.R.-sixteen-years-old-in-the-slammer. And then who (will they believe)? Me, with a professional reputation, and of course that I teach. You know, that's the thing. They are going to believe me.
Billy Flynn gave his testimony and cried but reportedly went back to his cell to watch it back with the others and laughed. They were reportedly boasting they'd put on a good performance. Greg's father also displayed his disgust as they were seen leaving the court room smiling and clapping their hands.
Just listening to this so called journalist “Diane Diamond on Dr. Oz show makes me wonder whether she’s after rescuing this killer woman so that she can gain fame. Why is this Diane Diamond woman justifying this criminal’s behavior? This soiled woman molested and manipulated a minor into killing her husband doesn’t deserve any chances. Who cares whether she’s reformed in prison and earned master’s degrees? Don’t they all? Just listening to this Diane Diamond speak makes me wonder whether she’s secretly in love with this Pamela Smart trash. Why waste the precious professional time focusing on a killer and molester instead of covering the most important worldly affairs instead of trying to defend a woman that molested a child and caused her own husband’s death. I hope you have a room at your house for her should she be released. You’ll know what a smart criminal is if you ever live with her.
If you admit to a murder you didn't even commit you can get out of prison, but if you are really innocent you can't? What kind of system do we have? A fascinating one - the prosecutor would say
Pam [Pame as she spells it] Smart would have sat by idly while her young accomplices rotted in prison for life. Pam's arrogance, big mouth and vampiric need for attention is what convicted her, but her failure to accept responsibility for being an accessory to premeditated murder is the reason why she will spend the rest of her life in prison. Pam refused to speak with Bill Spencer of WMUR when he tried to conduct an interview after her three accomplices were arrested. Finally, a break in the case and that's when Pam changes her tune. Up to that point, she was in constant pursuit of media attention. Yet, she disengages once the police make an arrest - coincidence? There were numerous red flags and nuances that alerted investigators from the beginning. Pam thought she could use underprivileged youngsters as scapegoats in her master plan. She seems like the type of person who was always out for herself and nobody else. To this very day, Pam's only concern is me, myself and I.
Maybe Pam Smart should still be in prison, but why are the guys that actually committed the murder out? That is the part that is screwy. The kid that pulled the trigger is out of prison.
Because the boys were under age at the time. Smart was the only adult in this plot, and it was up to her to stop the madness. She didn’t. She orchestrated the murder of her husband for the insurance money. While the “boys” admitted their guilt and showed sincere contrition, Smart keeps doubling down and denying responsibility. That’s why she is in prison and the boys are out.
Oh man. I am embarrased for the guy that's there and thinks shes innocent. Just hearing him say there's faulty things on the recording... but hes never heard it. He just embarrased himself in front of the entire world and proved shes a master manipulator and he fell for it. Oh god... just heard him speak more. Omg hes so slow, clearly muddied by the picture shes drawn. You can tell he would be easy to manipulate, he's in love with her or something. You cab tell hes really emotionally effected by them saying the facts about her true nature.
Right after Greg’s murder she immediately stopped talking to Billy. If she didn’t know who or why wouldn’t she have ask him if he did it . Or go to the police and say I think I know. No she was guilty and was worried about getting caught she used this kid . Just like she said on those tapes who are they going to believe a 15 year old or a professional like me. She even told a news reporter just a few weeks or maybe it was days after the shooting that it couldn’t have happened to Greg at a better time in his life. Really?? The poor guy was only in his twenties with his whole life ahead. She may not have pulled the trigger but she planted the seed and knew he was going to be killed and did not one thing to stop it. Why would they put the dog in the basement so it wouldn’t be there if she didn’t tell them. So many things pint to her guilt. And she would have let those boys go to jail and not cared one bit either. If she had gotten off. She really thought she would get off. And never shed one tear for herself or Greg. Cold hearted. I wouldn’t doubt if she hadn’t gone to prison that she would have had the next husband bumped off.
She says she'd already split up with Billy so she'd already cut all ties., besides If your husband had just been killed I don't think anyone would be going to see or speak to their lover. She claims she had no idea he had any involvement so why would she ask him or go to the police with his name? As for the tapes, even her friend testified Pam had gone to that meeting with Cecilla pretending she knew more in order to gain info from her. I think It's plausible that Greg knew to put the dog in the basement because he knew how much she loved the dog. As for not shedding a tear, plenty of innocent people have been the same. as Pam says she was in shock more than anything
See there it is "The Mullet." When properly grown it has a 89% chance of commiting a crime. It captivates the owner, effects their behaviour and leads them on a path of delenquency!
*There are stories of inspiration in every corner of this country. Stories of compassion, hope, and perserverance* Thats so cool... *These are the stories inspiring America - NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt*
The tapes were edited. The transcripts didn't match the audio either. Whether she orchestrated it or not, she didn't pull the trigger, she should be paroled one day. Everyone else involved in the crime is free. There is something wrong with that in my opinion.
They should do a story about what the teen boys are up to these days. Poor Billy Flynn. He has to see Pamela Smart in these jailhouse interviews and know that he f*#ked that. Ewww.
I think a local newspaper did one on him in 2016. He’s living in an upscale neighborhood with his wife and he works as an electrician. So I guess Flynn sort of got a “happily ever after” ending.
Pam needs to fully serve her sentence, not death penalty like Gregg! She's still alive, she should be able to petition for death penalty if life is too much for her.
This caused Pam Smarts father John Wojas,s career as an Airline Pilot to terminate due to the abnormal amount of stress inflicted upon him and his wife Enough is Enough
I believe you Pam. And I am sorry about what I said about you earlier. I myself am a Victim of False Accusations, False Statements, Defamation, Slander and etc. Please forgive me Pam. Is there anything I can do for you?
At one point here the women who interviewed Pam made a statement that Billy told the boys to stay in the car and didn't elaborate more infact once she said that I said to myself that's odd these boys must of feared Billy because noone that young is going to listen to anyone especially when they're being told hey you all I'm going to head into Pam's you all stay here no that doesn't seem right also I find women get the worse punishment than guys so many men are in prison for murder and they get out in 30 yrs now these boys killed Pam's husband they are out free that's not right in my eyes at all I'm sorry justice department needs to ask themselves if this is right Pam gets life ! I also believe that the police wanted Pam so badly based on publicly alone that those tapes of Pam & the girl were not 100 percent accurate and the guy looking to help Pam should interview that girl see what shell say today .The murders are out free and Pam's doing life what's wrong with this picture and as she said why should she plea to a crime she didn't commit? I bet Billy and the boys won't give interviews based on fear of being put back .. I feel Pam was railroaded her only Hope is the man doing work pro bono bless his heart the prosecutor was so arrogant it upset me he is not a honest man !
Pam sure is stubborn. Still claiming she is innocent, almost 30 years on. I saw her latest ABC interview, and it made me wonder if there was any circumstance under which she might finally tell the truth and admit she was the mastermind. Her mother continues to fight for her release. I’m curious if Pam might finally admit her guilt (if offered an opportunity for parole) after her mother passes on.
So Megyn doesn’t even know the murders family name but she knows whose fault it is? This woman was maybe behind it maybe not but they guy who did the act is out of jail and she is still in jail. Women are always judged harshly especially when they are involved in murder.
Alright, I gotta say it because I did a ctrl+f and didn't see any mention of it here. Megyn didn't need to go there with the looks comment, especially right off the bat. She's a great host and very entertaining and GOOD at her job, but she keeps making mistakes like that and the ratings are gonna drop again. I wanna like her, because she seems likeble. But then she does stuff like that.
I noticed that, too. Megyn seems to have a rather juvenile, shallow focus sometimes. It's off-putting and distracting, which is unfortunate because she has some fascinating guests and topics on this show.
@@sarastepp5488 Megyn isn't Shallow, How can you not notice the whitish dirty hair, the nose is getting longer, the teeth are longer, the skin is wrinkling, the worts are growing, there's a small hump on her back, Pamela is becoming a Witch. It's not something you see every day.
She never committed this murder and was not even there. The than boys are out AND proper thing to do is to let her out. People who actually murder someone or did the crime don’t even get this much time. She’s done her time enough is enough. Those than boys did it !!
how can anyone believe this woman is innocent? geez!
@Diamond Leigh It's on tape. She didn't run screaming to the police, I know who killed my poor husband!!!! She said they were laughing stressed. How did she know? Guilty, guilty, guilty. And we are sick of hearing about this case.
@@tomaskuli177 - then don't watch a video about it.
@@CJ-jx4bq it popped up on my favorite crime show. Some things you can't avoid, like little trolls on the internet. Just everywhere. Mind your business.
@@tomaskuli177 A UA-cam video with a segment from the Today show popped up on your favourite crime show? Pray tell, which one is your favourite?
Also calling me a troll because you commented that you're sick of hearing about a case on a video clearly dedicated to it, is just bizarre.
@@CJ-jx4bq ???? Weirdo. Get a your own life.
It was not an affair. It's straight up paedophilia.
Imagine how this scenario would have been interpreted if this had been a male teacher and a 15 / 16 year old girl.
let's get the police involved, when my husband turns up dead, while having an affair with a kid.
as a guy, you're thinking how dumb, as a woman, she knew no one would even bring it up
This is so true. Thank you for pointing that out, Glinda!
@Que serra They should have been arrested.
She couldn't taken a plea for 28 years and would've been out now. She's never admitted guilt and refuses any part of it
She narrsictic
I don't think she was offered that deal.
pretty much your average woman
She's too invested in her Little Miss Innocent act. Plus, she's got a nice life in prison - 3 meals a day, education at her disposal, TV, recreation... All while she doesn't have to do anything except pretend to be innocent and ruin the life of Greg Smart's family. She'll never back down, she has too much riding on her current fake version of events.
I think she’s secretly enjoying the spotlights. If she admits guilt and gets paroled, she might not have reasons to be on TV so often.
Oh please she is guilty case closed she manipulated a 15 year old boy into killing her husband she had that kid wrapped around her finger
It may well be true but there is no proof of it. It's the story we've been told, it fits perfectly and makes sense but there is zero evidence this happen.
@Diamond Leigh ok so because the boy stold a car radio and little thing but Pam groom to my a killer a innocent women don't do what she did only camera she cryed you sound stupid she was molester all school seen them yah stupid that kid cryed more then she did stupid she in a week got he's insurance I believe him I don't believe her she a narrsictic
@@Jane_Louise_b72 There's no proof of it? There's sworn testimony from 4 people, that's proof.
@@Gunner192 Yes sworn testimony from people who wanted to save their own back. Testimony is not proof of anything other than to convince a jury
@Jim AItruist stupid? Really. Plenty of innocent people have been put away for life for a crime which lacks evidence but has a believable story of their involvement, hence it's easy for a jury to believe a person must be guilty based on convincing story .. However this case had no actual evidence. fact
Greg seemed like a really cool young guy working hard living the American dream. RIP Greg. The monster will leave prison in a cheap wood box.
The man who held a knife to his throat was freed in 2-15 as was the shooter. They weren't innocent children but kids w/jail records. They heartlessly murdered Greg Smart.
pam smart is guilty and should spend the rest of her life in prison. i feel bad for greg and his family
Pam is innocent.
Tony Cole no pam isn’t innocent and she’s going to spend the rest of her life in prison, she’ll never get out, ever. and if she were to get out she’d probably be killed herself
I whole heartedly agree with you. There is a journalist by the name Diane Diamond that is determined to see her freed. Who knows what her motive is. Maybe fame and much more. Who can't see that the this Pamela woman is a dirty piece trash in every manner
It's so interesting that Tom Nickels and Diane Dimond have so little concern for Greg's family. It's like the victim doesn't matter to them. I know I shouldn't be surprised with people like this, but I still am.
@@tonycole6473 lol
She is alive. Her husband is in a grave. She doing better than him isnt she....
I whole heartedly agree with you. There is a journalist by the name Diane Diamond that is determined to see her freed. Who knows what her motive is. Maybe fame and much more. Who can't see that the this Pamela woman is a dirty piece trash in every manner
@@edwarda.7445 It's fascinating to me that people think she is innocent.
No he is free she is in chains.
@@lf9341 and, some people think that Trump is actually not con man
@@deejeff8846 I agree to that. Depends where he is. Because he did commit adultery after all.
I agree with Paul. Pam is definitely guilty. She’s narcissistic and cold. The only people I feel sorry for are Greg and his family.
Totally agree. In the documentary,
She actually compared herself to Jackie Onassis when speaking of why she was cold after Greggs death. Total narcissist.
Sue TomFordLaw are you serious?? How did she compare herself to Jackie Onassis? Which documentary was this? She’s seriously such a narcissist!! I hate that she considers herself a victim... Gregg and his family are the only victims! I love how Diane says that Pamela is smart a few times... no she sure isn’t!
In the 3 part series just aired on the ID channel Diane stated that many people viewed her as cold for not crying at the funeral. She replied something to the effect of “ Well it depends what lens you’re looking through....Jackie Onassis didn’t cry at President Kennedy’s funeral...” I’m thinking “Honey, you ain’t no Jackie O...” I agree about Gregg and his family...they are the victims and no matter how much time has passed that will never change. She is exactly where she belongs.
I also feel a little, not a lot, bad for the kid. He should be in jail, no question, but she definitely manipulated him, a child, to do it. He made the choice, and is responsible for it, but I still wonder, had she never been his teacher, where would he be now?
Izzy's Mom 1 yeah I can understand that. I have a little bit of sympathy for him too. I mean obviously he knew it was wrong but he was also being told by Pamela that he was abusive and whatnot. Even Gregg’s brother said he felt a little sorry for Flynn because he saw that he was completely manipulated by Pam. They also aren’t opposed to Flynn being paroled, and I agree with them on that. He did 25 years and he’s shown remorse and that’s more than we can say about Pam. I think the justice system handled this case correctly.
It's not an alleged plot. She was found guilty.
Try telling Pam that.
But she was found guilty on zero evidence and media hype.. the boys testimony and a dodgy tape which reveals nothing. This is not evidence..
@@Jane_Louise_b72 You need new material, ~ Your theory hasn't worked for 30 years.
@@morleyyan3414 New material.? It is recent documentaries which show the facts of the case not old material
@@Jane_Louise_b72 $140K insurance money/ Bought a condo right away.
Why keep using the word "affair" to describe sexual abuse of a teenage boy by an adult in an authority figure role in a school?
Terri Crowe because that’s not salacious enough 🙄
Pam with every breath admits to the "affair," However that's not why she is spending the rest of her life in prison for. She's in prison for Being an Accomplice, ~ Conspiracy, & Witness Tampering.
Going back 30 years It wasn't really frowned upon dating a minor. I recall boys and girls at school dating older women/men and no one including parents thought anything of it. Not like it is now where you'd be arrested. Of course dating someone in authority that's always been a big no no
@@Jane_Louise_b72 Then why did Mary Kay Letourneau go to jail? At least she didn't have her husband murdered. Pam is a psychopath who had Greg killed for the insurance money. $140 K.
Terri Crowe she was never charged with pedofilia
I went to school with Pame. Sadly greg and his now deceased parents are buried near some of my family members. So tragic and my heart goes out to his surviving brother and his family...senseless tragedy!
What was Pam like?
I'm a true crime writer. Did you see criminal tendencies in Pam when you knew her?
how anyone can believe Pamela Smart is beyond belief
They are like the people who believe in and trust Trump
@@mehermusic2154 Who else would you trust? Obama, Bush, Clinton, Nixon, Washington, another Bush, and now Biden?
If you had been falsely accused then you would know.
She has a support page on Facebook. It’s hilarious. If you say anything negative about Pam they will kick you out
Even some who don't believe her find LWOP unfair and barbaric.
This guy is trying to defend Pam but has never heard the tapes? REALLY? There are parts of the tapes that are hard to understand, but most Of those tapes are very clear. Pam convicted herself. Some investigator. PUH. He sounds unconvincing and ridiculous.
When people are talking, it can be different than a transcript. People talk over each other and interrupt. She could say, "right" but not necessarily to the last thing said. I agree that tapes, at some points, sound like she is guilty. I still support her being freed because it's been so long and she is not dangerous at this time.
I can’t believe Dianne Diamond is drinking the kool aid . I always thought she was smart.
I don’t know who she is, but pretty much every media personality is a lot dumber than they think they are (and are thus easy to fool), as well as having an agenda. A lot of them are narcissists themselves, so they don’t see the narcissism in front of them.
She is smart.
Yeah... and Diane Downs still maintains her innocence too.🙄
Pamela Dumb😏
fox on the run she’s nuts🥜
Oh my God I know her last parole hearing was pathetic I was meeting an FBI agent shut the f****** b**** you killed your kid he shot the other two just say it how old are you now?
Farrah Fawcett did an excellent job playing small sacrifices
Dian and Tom: pathetic! No depths too low.
I whole heartedly agree with you. There is a journalist by the name Diane Diamond that is determined to see her freed. Who knows what her motive is. Maybe fame and much more. Who can't see that the this Pamela woman is a dirty piece trash in every manner
I wish Megyn would stop interrupting her guests. I know she has limited time but she always does it
It's her job
@@marikiemarie7622 She had to save the show, Whenever Tom tried to finish a normal sentence.
Too many "interviewers" interrupt guests or ask over long questions. Charlie Rose often did that. Chris Matthews often did both.
She should never get out of prison
She never will.
OJ has maintained his innocence all along as well
SHE RUINED HER LIFE....GREGG SMART'S LIFE....AND POOR BILLY FLYNN....UNBELIEVABLE....
And Gregg's family ❤
Oh gee she didnt age well
I think the guy who shot her husband should be in prison for the rest of his life as well. He knew exactly what he was doing and at what cost
He was a kid that was manipulated by a adult female teacher. He got the right sentence and so did she. When a adult manipulates a child. The adult holds more responsibility
He was a child. He's responsible for his actions, for sure, but she was more responsible than he was.
mark jones
No, she manipulated THREE teen boys. The teen who shot her husband had to get the gun from his friend's father. 🙄
Cherie Smith kids are easy manipulated, easy one that is very impressionable. He paid the price and from an interview that I watched, Greg Smart family agreed that he displayed tremendous remorse. Pam on the other had still has not taken responsibility for her actions and still proclaims her innocence. She deserves to spend the rest of her life behind bars.
Cherie Smith well said
I miss Megyn Kelly. She is such a great interviewer!
Yup the left, the democrats are there own
Miss Megyn , your job I believe is to bring out facts not judge and condemn people...( Just listen to yourself... )
S R She's not a reporter. Her show is opinion based just like all other talk shows. If you want an unbiased account you need to consult a news source. Plenty of actual reporters covered this story. It's all online :)
Sharon Velez Thank you ! I guess I was misinformed about talk shows.. 😊
Sharon Velez so is a lot of the news and many other outlets that used to be unbiased but not any more. They all want to sell a story.
@Asitiswrytten Productions huh?
Also, this is a person who was found guilty by a jury. In the eyes of the law she is guilty, she did it. Saying she is a murderer is legally correct, so no bias, in my opinion. Plus, as the other poster stated, this isn't news coverage, it's a talk show.
If she was trying to get information why didn't she go the police with it and let them handle it
can't believe this was 30 years ago
I was friends with some of the students in nh and then ended up in Bedford in 2009 with her which was weird but she's guilty af
Poor Billy trapped by the box of a master manipulator 😞
At 16, he should have known murder was wrong. Additionally, there was no sexual relationship between Pam Smart and the other 3 teen boys who committed the murder. Those guys were committing a "thrill" murder.
Yes--they were along for the ride--a thrill ride. But none of those teenagers had anything above the neck that worked. Pamela was the mastermind--she was, and is diabolical. Those kids--especially Billy Flynn--are lucky that Pam wasn't moonlighting as a stripper in some club frequented by outlaw biker gangs--a talent that I can see her as. With her ruthlessness, her coldness, she would have arranged to have one or more of those boys silenced--forever!
He’s a victim of grooming but I don’t consider him “poor Billy”. He was not a clean cut kid and was a bad person in his own way.
It just so happens that I worked at a Printed Circuit Board plant in Derry NH at that time. Pam Smarts' best friend and her best friends' sister also worked at the same plant. Her best friend stood by Pam, while her sister told me that the rest of the family believed Pam to be guilty. The best friends' sister told me that the evening after Greg's murder Pam was out partying. Pam tole her "Life goes on." , or something to that affect. The best friends' sister, and the rest of us she told her account of the aftermath to, couldn't understand how Pam could go out and party the night after her husband was murdered. Now, you tell me Pam is innocent. I don't think so.
Paula Mears Simply stated, you are a liar.
Paula Mears, Thank You.
Mmm That wouldn't add up because Pam's family have routinely shown their faces to the media, standing by her and protesting her innocence. why bother if they all think she's guilty?
@@Jane_Louise_b72 It's the Hollydays, ~ Go help people in your community, Go Bring Toys to the Children's Hospital, This will bring you more "Joy",...than Pam will ever give to you.,
@@morleyyan3414 Oh Hit a nerve have I? You're not happy unless someone is backing your opinion. Perhaps helping the community is what you should be doing. It's your bright idea and it suggests your subconsciousness is telling you you're not doing enough..
Megyn Kelly's attitude is super unprofessional. She sounds like a head mean girl from high school.
Bully more like it
It's called, Being Honest.
If she just got a divorce it would of been alot easier.
$140K insurance money/ Bought a condo right away.
Of course would be.
This is old news. Watch the documentary Captivated: The Trials of Pamela Smart.
Please! Diane Diamond you should know better. Affair??? Please don’t use that word to describe the sexual assault, grooming and manipulation of a minor by an adult educator whose salary was paid with tax payer dollars.
Five reasons why Pam will never see Freedom, #1 If released, What's the point of plea bargains. #2 If released, Why have State Mandatory Sentences. #3 If released, That means all of her lies & accusations worked for freedom. #4 Testimony from 4 people & her own voice, words, vocabulary & her own incrimination. #5 Never taking responsibility, Never Apologized or show any remorse for all the Harm, Grief & Pain she caused, & Especially Causing the death of someone's Child.
Why do you post this on every Pam smart video
Even if Pamela didn't plan the murder, she's still got blood on her hands.
The evidence is overwhelming that she did plan the murder. All 3 kids said the same things; none of them are exactly rocket scientists. Billy Flynn loved getting laid by a pretty adult teacher. Sometimes the truth is the truth, even if opportunists like Tom Nickels and Diane Dimond pretend otherwise. Those two just want their 15 minutes of fame, even when it comes at the expense of Greg Smart's family. Shame on them!
@@annalisapluma9490 and the wired interaction with Cecilia...who had nothing to gain or lose
And she admits that. No relationship with Billy Flynn, no murder. She is the first to say that.
@@denisenoemyschizotypaldiso3755 How about, "I should not have had an affair" PERIOD?!
YEP SHE HAS NEVER SAID SHE IS RESPONSIBLE
Megyn ffs stop being so rude loud and obnoxious towards your guests and the stories your talking about
Huh? What did you watch?
Which show are you watching?.
she hasn't aged very well at all.she looks like she's in her late 60's
She looks 75.
I think Pam still looks youthful and beautiful.
She's what, 51-52? I think she looks her age
Ray Sierra having survived a serious beating by other inmates she’s lucky to be alive
Ray Sierra mayonnaise and peroxide
I feel sorry her parents raising the devil. Smart won't admit her guilt even it would give her a chance at a parole hearing. She would rather stay in prison then admit her guilt. Pamela Smart you should be called Pamela Dumb. I also feel sorry for Gregg Smart and his family and friends, they never got to spend any holidays or see Gregg get older. The only time they get to see Gregg is at his grave.
Just fascinated by this crime. The movie had me hooked but the actual facts floor me.
The central point here from a strictly legal point of view is the fact that the jury was not sequestered, amidst a tsunami of daily and wildly prejudicial news coverage. After court hours there were many cases of reporters from WMUR-TV 9 talking with jurors during the trial, and an instance after Billy Flynn's tearful confession of a reporter from CH 9 standing next to him in the courthouse holding area bathroom by the back entrance as Flynn asked him "How'm I doin?" By the norms of the US justice system and by simple logic and morality this woman deserves a commutation of sentence.
If the media calls you "the ice princess" at your unsequestered jury trial you are going to be convicted.
This won't be a popular opinion, but I'm throwing it out there anyway. I haven't read every word of the transcripts, but I didn't find the highlighted conversations between Cecelia and Pamela to be all that compelling. I haven't seen anything that constitutes a confession by Pamela on the wired conversations that leads me to believe that she, in fact, asked these boys (or Billy) to commit the murder of Greg. If she had, I would understand the prosecutions feeling that the evidence was overwhelming regarding her guilt, but I haven't seen or heard it. I only hear the prosecution saying that it was overwhelming, but that doesn't make it so. I believe the relationship between Billy and Pamela is what "hung her" in the eyes of most, but that relationship, as bad as it was, doesn't equal life w/o parole. Beyond that, I don't believe that she would continue sitting in prison declaring her innocence of being the mastermind, knowing that that is the one detail that keeps her from being considered for a hearing to change her sentence. Her continued denial of constructing the murder plot is what stands between her and another hearing, so what, beyond actual innocence, would cause someone to so staunchly refuse to admit something she's been paying for for thirty years? I personally believe there is much more reason to consider the idea that she was not involved in the actions of the teenagers that night. The fact that they also had months and months to put their story together pointing at Pamela, is also really concerning. Just my two cents.
As a side note, at this point I think many people are more influenced by Nicole Kidman's portrayal of Pamela Smart and the "Hollywood facts" that were interjected into the movie, than the actual people and circumstances involved at trial.
At the very least there is a reasonable doubt that Mrs. Smart wasn't the mastermind of anything.
L miss Megan. She was a powerhouse. No reason she should of been fired. Today morning shows not the same. I live in NH about a half an hour from Derry. Shocking case.
She’s so full of it.. just admit it already
How do you know? Have you been there when that happen?
How do you know? Have you been there when that happen?
Why was she so eager to find out what the police knew?
Why was she suspicious and concerned that the police was not telling her certain information?
I remember Billy Flynn's testimony and I cried and so did even the victim her husband's Brothers forgave Billy Flynn they were in tears to. It shows you nowadays how teachers are sleeping with students both sexes you know your first love is your first love no excuses just saying she prayed on that kid they were poor a thousand a piece
Let me be clear ; She Was NOT a teacher! She was a volunteer at the school. This was 30 Yrs ago NOT "Nowadays" and btw there are Great respectable teachers out there too. You only hear about the few disgusting ones. You don't hear about all the ones who devote themselves wholeheartedly to their students that are superb role models.
I was a bartender for 20 years so I worked with a lot of teachers who had to get second jobs because they ain't paid s*** and I've always voiced my opinion on that let's just make that clear but thank you
Pamela said: "Well, so then I'll have to say, "No, I didn't" and then they're either gonna believe me or they are gonna believe J.R.-sixteen-years-old-in-the-slammer. And then who (will they believe)? Me, with a professional reputation, and of course that I teach. You know, that's the thing. They are going to believe me.
Billy Flynn gave his testimony and cried but reportedly went back to his cell to watch it back with the others and laughed. They were reportedly boasting they'd put on a good performance. Greg's father also displayed his disgust as they were seen leaving the court room smiling and clapping their hands.
@@Jane_Louise_b72 "All Hear-Say" about the Teens. ~ Greg's Dad spoke in support for Bill's release at the Parole Hearing.
Keep her behind bars!!
Keep her in Jars.
Just listening
to this so called journalist “Diane Diamond on Dr. Oz show makes me wonder
whether she’s after rescuing this killer woman so that she can gain fame. Why is
this Diane Diamond woman justifying this criminal’s behavior? This soiled woman
molested and manipulated a minor into killing her husband doesn’t deserve any chances.
Who cares whether she’s reformed in prison and earned master’s degrees? Don’t
they all? Just listening to this Diane Diamond speak makes me wonder whether
she’s secretly in love with this Pamela Smart trash. Why waste the precious professional
time focusing on a killer and molester instead of covering the most important worldly
affairs instead of trying to defend a woman that molested a child and caused
her own husband’s death. I hope you have a room at your house for her should
she be released. You’ll know what a
smart criminal is if you ever live with her.
E Ndege A Could have not said it better myself, I wondered the same thing. Well said, I tip my hat to you.
If you admit to a murder you didn't even commit you can get out of prison, but if you are really innocent you can't? What kind of system do we have?
A fascinating one - the prosecutor would say
Pam [Pame as she spells it] Smart would have sat by idly while her young accomplices rotted in prison for life. Pam's arrogance, big mouth and vampiric need for attention is what convicted her, but her failure to accept responsibility for being an accessory to premeditated murder is the reason why she will spend the rest of her life in prison. Pam refused to speak with Bill Spencer of WMUR when he tried to conduct an interview after her three accomplices were arrested. Finally, a break in the case and that's when Pam changes her tune. Up to that point, she was in constant pursuit of media attention. Yet, she disengages once the police make an arrest - coincidence? There were numerous red flags and nuances that alerted investigators from the beginning. Pam thought she could use underprivileged youngsters as scapegoats in her master plan. She seems like the type of person who was always out for herself and nobody else. To this very day, Pam's only concern is me, myself and I.
He who be without sin ,cast the first stone Forgiveness is a God Given Virtue
Megyn has this big grin on her face as she talks about this case that killed one life and destroyed a lot of others. I don't find that funny at all.
Diane Downs is another one who claims innocence.
This a shameless interview on part of Megyn or whatever her name is.
Gregg Smart was very handsome. Too handsome for Pam.
Maybe Pam Smart should still be in prison, but why are the guys that actually committed the murder out? That is the part that is screwy. The kid that pulled the trigger is out of prison.
Because the boys were under age at the time. Smart was the only adult in this plot, and it was up to her to stop the madness. She didn’t. She orchestrated the murder of her husband for the insurance money. While the “boys” admitted their guilt and showed sincere contrition, Smart keeps doubling down and denying responsibility. That’s why she is in prison and the boys are out.
Definitely guilty...its written on her face... you can just see how her thought process works
STFU. Pam is innocent.
@@tonycole6473 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂..........right!
@@tonycole6473 You're a Goof, You're a great representation for Pamela Smart, Keep up the good work.
Why is that Nickels detective’s nose purple? 😂
wondering the same thing
Rebecca Tankersley, I think it’s play doh.
Rebecca Tankersley Usually associated with reduced blood flow, alcoholism.
That's what i was going to say. And based on his delusions and being manipulated by Pam, I would suspect that highly.
Pinocchio's Nose grew long, Tom's Nose turns purple.
Oh man. I am embarrased for the guy that's there and thinks shes innocent. Just hearing him say there's faulty things on the recording... but hes never heard it. He just embarrased himself in front of the entire world and proved shes a master manipulator and he fell for it.
Oh god... just heard him speak more. Omg hes so slow, clearly muddied by the picture shes drawn. You can tell he would be easy to manipulate, he's in love with her or something. You cab tell hes really emotionally effected by them saying the facts about her true nature.
Right after Greg’s murder she immediately stopped talking to Billy. If she didn’t know who or why wouldn’t she have ask him if he did it . Or go to the police and say I think I know. No she was guilty and was worried about getting caught she used this kid . Just like she said on those tapes who are they going to believe a 15 year old or a professional like me. She even told a news reporter just a few weeks or maybe it was days after the shooting that it couldn’t have happened to Greg at a better time in his life. Really?? The poor guy was only in his twenties with his whole life ahead. She may not have pulled the trigger but she planted the seed and knew he was going to be killed and did not one thing to stop it. Why would they put the dog in the basement so it wouldn’t be there if she didn’t tell them. So many things pint to her guilt. And she would have let those boys go to jail and not cared one bit either. If she had gotten off. She really thought she would get off. And never shed one tear for herself or Greg. Cold hearted. I wouldn’t doubt if she hadn’t gone to prison that she would have had the next husband bumped off.
She says she'd already split up with Billy so she'd already cut all ties., besides If your husband had just been killed I don't think anyone would be going to see or speak to their lover. She claims she had no idea he had any involvement so why would she ask him or go to the police with his name? As for the tapes, even her friend testified Pam had gone to that meeting with Cecilla pretending she knew more in order to gain info from her. I think It's plausible that Greg knew to put the dog in the basement because he knew how much she loved the dog. As for not shedding a tear, plenty of innocent people have been the same. as Pam says she was in shock more than anything
By 16, Flynn should have had enough compassion to stay his hand when Gregg Smart begged for mercy.
Flynn should have done at least 10 more years in prison before parole.
True
See there it is "The Mullet." When properly grown it has a 89% chance of commiting a crime. It captivates the owner, effects their behaviour and leads them on a path of delenquency!
These investigators geez there as bad as her. Are they dillusional???
*There are stories of inspiration in every corner of this country. Stories of compassion, hope, and perserverance*
Thats so cool...
*These are the stories inspiring America - NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt*
Tom Nicholes is boning Pam! And meg is rude af. About Pam’s looks! Lol it was great!
The tapes were edited. The transcripts didn't match the audio either. Whether she orchestrated it or not, she didn't pull the trigger, she should be paroled one day. Everyone else involved in the crime is free. There is something wrong with that in my opinion.
Robin Swan I agree
I agree she should have a chance at parol as well
@@funfamilyfiveplusjax4452 She has accumulated 22 Disciplinary violations, So much for Good Behavior.
First one aired live. I like watching her now still sticking to it
They should do a story about what the teen boys are up to these days. Poor Billy Flynn. He has to see Pamela Smart in these jailhouse interviews and know that he f*#ked that. Ewww.
I think a local newspaper did one on him in 2016. He’s living in an upscale neighborhood with his wife and he works as an electrician. So I guess Flynn sort of got a “happily ever after” ending.
SEE I THINK ITS WRONG JUST CUZ SOMEONE COOPERATES DOESNT GIVE THEM A PARDON I AGREE WITH PAMELA HE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE SAME SENTENCE
Yeah but he took response blty u sound stupid defending a molester who ruined he life
If she had just accepted responsibility and had remorse she would have been out long ago!
Just let her out of prison
Pam needs to fully serve her sentence, not death penalty like Gregg!
She's still alive, she should be able to petition for death penalty if life is too much for her.
paul m. you are lying ..shame on you
The house was left unlocked Nobody does that
This caused Pam Smarts father John Wojas,s career as an Airline
Pilot to terminate due to the abnormal amount of stress inflicted upon him and his wife Enough is Enough
Look, it’s great to have friends, and I’m happy that Diane Diamond is friends with Smart. However, the facts of the crime remain unchanged.
I believe you Pam. And I am sorry about what I said about you earlier. I myself am a Victim of False Accusations, False Statements, Defamation, Slander and etc. Please forgive me Pam. Is there anything I can do for you?
😂
At one point here the women who interviewed Pam made a statement that Billy told the boys to stay in the car and didn't elaborate more infact once she said that I said to myself that's odd these boys must of feared Billy because noone that young is going to listen to anyone especially when they're being told hey you all I'm going to head into Pam's you all stay here no that doesn't seem right also I find women get the worse punishment than guys so many men are in prison for murder and they get out in 30 yrs now these boys killed Pam's husband they are out free that's not right in my eyes at all I'm sorry justice department needs to ask themselves if this is right Pam gets life ! I also believe that the police wanted Pam so badly based on publicly alone that those tapes of Pam & the girl were not 100 percent accurate and the guy looking to help Pam should interview that girl see what shell say today .The murders are out free and Pam's doing life what's wrong with this picture and as she said why should she plea to a crime she didn't commit? I bet Billy and the boys won't give interviews based on fear of being put back .. I feel Pam was railroaded her only Hope is the man doing work pro bono bless his heart the prosecutor was so arrogant it upset me he is not a honest man !
I think that guys nose is dying. 😱
yeah...no circulation...
rosacea. Horrible medical condition. Embarrassing and painful.
Megyn, it’s not an “alleged” murder plot, anymore. Smart was convicted, and the appellate process affirmed the conviction.
Pam sure is stubborn. Still claiming she is innocent, almost 30 years on. I saw her latest ABC interview, and it made me wonder if there was any circumstance under which she might finally tell the truth and admit she was the mastermind. Her mother continues to fight for her release. I’m curious if Pam might finally admit her guilt (if offered an opportunity for parole) after her mother passes on.
You might be onto something. It could be fear of hurting her mother that keeps her saying that.
Billy pulled the trigger, why is he out, she should be out on parole
They are lying about the tapes
President Nixon said the Same Thing.
How many times can that guy in the black shirt say “right”???
Leave Pam and release Betty Broderick
So Megyn doesn’t even know the murders family name but she knows whose fault it is? This woman was maybe behind it maybe not but they guy who did the act is out of jail and she is still in jail. Women are always judged harshly especially when they are involved in murder.
Alright, I gotta say it because I did a ctrl+f and didn't see any mention of it here.
Megyn didn't need to go there with the looks comment, especially right off the bat. She's a great host and very entertaining and GOOD at her job, but she keeps making mistakes like that and the ratings are gonna drop again.
I wanna like her, because she seems likeble. But then she does stuff like that.
I noticed that, too. Megyn seems to have a rather juvenile, shallow focus sometimes. It's off-putting and distracting, which is unfortunate because she has some fascinating guests and topics on this show.
@@sarastepp5488 Megyn isn't Shallow, How can you not notice the whitish dirty hair, the nose is getting longer, the teeth are longer, the skin is wrinkling, the worts are growing, there's a small hump on her back, Pamela is becoming a Witch. It's not something you see every day.
Morley Yan lol 😂 good one.
hmmm accomplice gets more that the killer..wow im impressed
The adult who coerced a kid gets what she deserves.
The person planning it is the real sicko...
Pam should’ve hired Johnny cochran. She’d be free right now
Half a million dollars each year is spent on her imprisonment.
I don't like to convict solely based on a witness'/witnesses' testimony. She's served enough time in my opinion.
Bingo!
She never committed this murder and was not even there. The than boys are out AND proper thing to do is to let her out. People who actually murder someone or did the crime don’t even get this much time. She’s done her time enough is enough. Those than boys did it !!
Lies the tape for the most part is inaudible and that is all the "proof" they had and with he said she said she should have walked
Really? Your just just dumb, there's no other way to put it!
@@tashaayers4710 you're *. other than that, I thoroughly agree.
I believe she should've had opportunity for Parole
Pam should have been freed years ago.
@@KevinBarakauskas What Parole? She already accumulated 22 Disciplinary Violations so far.
Peirce didn't plead.....
Smarts not so smart
Sell it again
She didn't pull the trigger why do they get out and she doesnt
I don’t think God forgives either!
Jan Warriner God forgives those who ask and are sincere, he knows their heart.
@@amberholland7141 Thank you Amber and you are right about that.
I m sorry I DONT agree the killer is on the street and she is still in prison SOMETHINGS WRONG HERE
She just use the innocent kid for her convenience she's Pure Evil I haven't see her crying not ones pure evil she's very selfish
I think Iranian justice is better than American Justice. The boy who pulled the trigger is out, and she's still in? Priceless.
Maybe America is more mysoginistic than Iran, after all.
@just my opinion Pam didn't have 20 people killed either, and less the swastika between the eyes. Bad analogy.
I don't agree that the guy who actually killed is on the street and she who killed nobody sits in jail. Something definitely wrong here