My predator in 7 PRC shoots the ELDx better than the Match...and, strangely, Outfitter the best of the 3 Hornady offerings. I need to reload for it more; I'm most interested in workingbupnthe Barnes 168 LRXs that I've got on the shelf...now that I finally found some H1000 powder. I put it in an Oryx chassis, so it ain't a carrying around rifle any more.
Try the Hammer HHT 170 gr with either H1000 or N565. I’m getting 3200 fps out of 2 Seekins PH2’s with 26 inch barrels with N565 Peterson brass with 70 gr of N565. I’m getting 3050 out of my Ruger American with ADG brass and 68.8 gr of N565. COAL for all 3 rifles is the same. 3.357. I get .2-.8 MOA consistently with all 3 guns.
I am a Mossberg fan boy but I find it amazing when people get good groups in the factory poly stock. My Patriot .308 did better in an MDT LSS Gen 2 chassis. So, when I got my Mossberg Patriot Predator Srata 7 PRC with cerakote, I never fired in the factory poly stock. I put it in an Oryx chassis. .64 inches for 3 shots. The Patriot poly stocks have a gap in the rear action screw guide and you will never get it torqued down correctly with that and the separate mag well being a shim. And they did that on the walnut version, which explains the poor performance of that rifle in Backfire. Blame it all you want in Jim but when two other shooters cannot make it work, it is the rifle, after all. Most specifially, the stock. And Mossberg, with the strength of a fanatical religious faith, refuses to change that stock design.
LOP: shooters actually have 2 LOP measurements. 1. When you are prone or at a bench and properly engage the rifle, you entire upper torso, shoulder to shoulder are perpendicular to the rifle. Most people still cradle the buttstock with an oblique angle which of course you can still shoot and shoot well but usually better with correct form. And you are punishing your shoulder joint if you are not squared to the buttstock. This position is your shorter LOP. 2. If you happen to be hunting, standing and you encounter a deer for example after stalking and it's within say, 50 yards, the comfortable and natural shouldering of the rifle free hand, puts your shoulders oblique to the rifle. I shoot left handed. Thus, when I've tagged deer this way, which has been quite a few, I shoulder the rifle with it pointing offset to my right and not straight out in front of me as I do when prone or on the bench. This is the longer LOP. I have multiple rifles and we can never know what position we'll be in when the time comes but in the areas I hunt I take certain rifles accordingly. When hunting out of a blind I'll take the shorter LOP rifle, 12.5", as I'll basically be shooting from a bench. When I'm stalking our woodlots, I carry a normal LOP rifle, 13-14" Cheek weld: your scope appears to be around an inch too high. Ideally your objective lens is as close to the barrel as possible. If your scope was lowered do you think you'd still need a cheek riser? I'm 5-8 and those classic stocks have worked well for me for decades. I've got the newer modern stocks with the vertical or near vertical grip as well but I'm now finding I don't care for them as much as what I'm used to. Time will tell and I may waver on my preference. Patriot model: from all I can tell, and from personal experience, Mossberg Patriots are a gamble when it comes to their rifles chambered in 308. I've actually not seen or read anything negative to the same degree with any other cartridge in the Patriot line. Maybe by the time they started manufacturing the 7PRC they cleaned up their QC. Who knows. The 2 worst rifles I've ever shot and even tried handloads, still horrid accuracy, were a Weatherby Mark V in 300 Weatherby mag, the really nice blued and wood stock model, and the Mossberg patriot in 308. Both were garbage and this is after everything was triple checked by a custom rifle builder. Neither one belonged to me. The 308 belongs to the guy that processes my deer. He tagged his first deer on my dad's property but that was after he wounded three with his 308. He was grouping about 10 to 12" at 100 yards using a bipod but I was not aware of that at the time. I was able to close it down to around 6-7" groups when he asked me to check it out. I talked him into a Tikka 270 and it is among the most accurate rifles I've ever shot including all of my custom rifles. Interestingly I tested Nosler's best load with his rifle using H4350 and 150 Nosler btips. When I shot those loads it never grouped over 1/2". He killed 4 more deer with that rifle and I had to explain to him when he hunts my dad's land, that's the rifle he has to use.
This is all pretty awesome information! Yeah - pretty much every “hunter style” stock is too low - even with the lowest rings possible. I forget exactly what it is, I’ve read it somewhere, but there is something with how most women are built that makes that a pretty common problem for us. Thank you for all the info! I appreciate you taking the time to comment!
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I have several Mossberg products, and I’ve never had a problem with any of them. Thanks for sharing your findings. Be well my friends.
I appreciate you!
My predator in 7 PRC shoots the ELDx better than the Match...and, strangely, Outfitter the best of the 3 Hornady offerings. I need to reload for it more; I'm most interested in workingbupnthe Barnes 168 LRXs that I've got on the shelf...now that I finally found some H1000 powder.
I put it in an Oryx chassis, so it ain't a carrying around rifle any more.
That's always so interesting to me - how "the same" rifle can shoot ammo so differently. I bet that Oryx chassis is pretty sweet, though.
Try the Hammer HHT 170 gr with either H1000 or N565. I’m getting 3200 fps out of 2 Seekins PH2’s with 26 inch barrels with N565 Peterson brass with 70 gr of N565. I’m getting 3050 out of my Ruger American with ADG brass and 68.8 gr of N565. COAL for all 3 rifles is the same. 3.357. I get .2-.8 MOA consistently with all 3 guns.
@ArpexOfficial wow! That sounds amazing.
@@ReviewThisThing I sent you the pictures of the targets with load info and groups
@ArpexOfficial those are quite impressive! Thank you.
Midway USA just got some Fed Fusion Tipped in 7mm PRC.
Oh no! 😂
i have one in 6.5 cred, shoots awesome even with budget hornady whitetail.
Good to know!
I had a 243 mossberg (🤢) years ago.... I'm still a bit scared to buy a mossberg centerfire weapon
I guess that means it didn’t go so well 😳
I believe the bolt head is free floating, squaring the round up with the bolt face. I think that explains the looseness.
That makes good sense.
Awesome video and for the money everything looks spot on. I like how they have the safety trigger, like Savage.
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Lucky dawgs….love try 7prc. Big 6.5prc fan
It’s pretty dang awesome!
I am a Mossberg fan boy but I find it amazing when people get good groups in the factory poly stock. My Patriot .308 did better in an MDT LSS Gen 2 chassis. So, when I got my Mossberg Patriot Predator Srata 7 PRC with cerakote, I never fired in the factory poly stock. I put it in an Oryx chassis. .64 inches for 3 shots.
The Patriot poly stocks have a gap in the rear action screw guide and you will never get it torqued down correctly with that and the separate mag well being a shim. And they did that on the walnut version, which explains the poor performance of that rifle in Backfire. Blame it all you want in Jim but when two other shooters cannot make it work, it is the rifle, after all. Most specifially, the stock. And Mossberg, with the strength of a fanatical religious faith, refuses to change that stock design.
What ammo? Reload?
@@ReviewThisThing Factory. Hornady Precision Hunter 175 gr using box MV of 3,000 fps.
@ronws2007 very nice
LOP: shooters actually have 2 LOP measurements. 1. When you are prone or at a bench and properly engage the rifle, you entire upper torso, shoulder to shoulder are perpendicular to the rifle. Most people still cradle the buttstock with an oblique angle which of course you can still shoot and shoot well but usually better with correct form. And you are punishing your shoulder joint if you are not squared to the buttstock. This position is your shorter LOP. 2. If you happen to be hunting, standing and you encounter a deer for example after stalking and it's within say, 50 yards, the comfortable and natural shouldering of the rifle free hand, puts your shoulders oblique to the rifle. I shoot left handed. Thus, when I've tagged deer this way, which has been quite a few, I shoulder the rifle with it pointing offset to my right and not straight out in front of me as I do when prone or on the bench. This is the longer LOP. I have multiple rifles and we can never know what position we'll be in when the time comes but in the areas I hunt I take certain rifles accordingly. When hunting out of a blind I'll take the shorter LOP rifle, 12.5", as I'll basically be shooting from a bench. When I'm stalking our woodlots, I carry a normal LOP rifle, 13-14"
Cheek weld: your scope appears to be around an inch too high. Ideally your objective lens is as close to the barrel as possible. If your scope was lowered do you think you'd still need a cheek riser? I'm 5-8 and those classic stocks have worked well for me for decades. I've got the newer modern stocks with the vertical or near vertical grip as well but I'm now finding I don't care for them as much as what I'm used to. Time will tell and I may waver on my preference.
Patriot model: from all I can tell, and from personal experience, Mossberg Patriots are a gamble when it comes to their rifles chambered in 308. I've actually not seen or read anything negative to the same degree with any other cartridge in the Patriot line. Maybe by the time they started manufacturing the 7PRC they cleaned up their QC. Who knows. The 2 worst rifles I've ever shot and even tried handloads, still horrid accuracy, were a Weatherby Mark V in 300 Weatherby mag, the really nice blued and wood stock model, and the Mossberg patriot in 308. Both were garbage and this is after everything was triple checked by a custom rifle builder. Neither one belonged to me. The 308 belongs to the guy that processes my deer. He tagged his first deer on my dad's property but that was after he wounded three with his 308. He was grouping about 10 to 12" at 100 yards using a bipod but I was not aware of that at the time. I was able to close it down to around 6-7" groups when he asked me to check it out. I talked him into a Tikka 270 and it is among the most accurate rifles I've ever shot including all of my custom rifles. Interestingly I tested Nosler's best load with his rifle using H4350 and 150 Nosler btips. When I shot those loads it never grouped over 1/2". He killed 4 more deer with that rifle and I had to explain to him when he hunts my dad's land, that's the rifle he has to use.
This is all pretty awesome information! Yeah - pretty much every “hunter style” stock is too low - even with the lowest rings possible. I forget exactly what it is, I’ve read it somewhere, but there is something with how most women are built that makes that a pretty common problem for us.
Thank you for all the info! I appreciate you taking the time to comment!
Will it group?
Oh yeah. ua-cam.com/video/1aFSD0A34ao/v-deo.htmlsi=f0UG72rYx37Phi_6
Great video. Thanks for posting an honest review
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Got the basic moss in 30-06 it out shoots me another guy shot it and got same hole 3 shot groups at 100yards 165 core lokt sp 180gr shoot bad tho
Heck yeah!
With the brake, what would you compare the recoil to?
Hmmm…6.5 CM. Or less.
@@ReviewThisThing WOW!!
@usafret4709 it’s awesome!
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Thanks for watching!
Looks good THANKS .
Thank you for watching.
Great review!!!!!
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I see this rifle in Walmart for under 400 dollars
Some people say they’ve had some duds, but this one has been awesome!
@@ReviewThisThing I'm going to buy one just to see how it shoots and I'm a Browning and Winchester and Savage rifle guy
@joztunes69 let me know how it goes.
@@ReviewThisThing I sure will
@joztunes69 thanks!
Love mine.
Do you also have a 7PRC?
@ReviewThisThing Yes...the same Mossberg but in FDE. Shoots great. BTW, I heard the Federal Fusion Tipped 7PRC ammo will be out soon.
@clayp520 nice! Oh wow! That could be dangerous. Thanks!
Great review!
Thank you son much! I appreciate it!
Mossberg sent u a tested rifle so it made them look good they only make good shotguns once I a while a good bolt gun gets sent out
Have the same gun same caliber not getting wat ur getting out of those loads
Really? That’s unfortunate for sure. Did you reach out to customer service? I wonder what they’d say.
It could be that it was a proven gun.
Been there twice no good sick of the back and forth just going to have a barrel made up
@brandonjett16 man. Someone mentioned having issues with the action screws. Maybe the stock is the problem?