Biggest Muskies on the Planet?
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2024
- Pete Maina, Dave Brown, and Larry Ramsell discuss World Record Muskies as well as some of the largest Muskies ever caught on the planet. Join us as these guys take you back in time and through the present with some of the biggest muskies ever caught.
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I always enjoy watching a "fireside chat" with truly knowledgeable and passionate musky guys. You have my gratitude.
This is without a doubt one of the best muskie videos I have ever seen. Larry and Pete are both a wealth of honest knowledge and history for the muskie fishing community.
Thank you bro - and thanks for watching
Good chat guys! Thanks!
Pete, "In the end all Truths will be Reviled" Great Video. God Bless
Yes they will. Thanks for watching and God bless!
This is great! Thank you for this! Truth is a hard pill for some to swallow.
The truth is always good
Thanks for the no nonsense, insightful presentation gentleman! I'm fishing the 'Chip' for the first time in late May....I guess I won't plan on breaking the record. 😉
Thanks for watching ... you will definitely enjoy the Chip; a beautiful place - but yeah I wouldn't plan on a 60lber 🤣
My grandfather lived and grew up in shell lake south of Hayward. He had said he fished with Louie back in the day. Cleaning his estate we found Louie’s hand noted copy of his 3 record musky book. Most notes were not about fishing but life.
There is one gentleman from Rice Lake still alive as well who fished with Louie and bought a house from him ... a "character" would be the nice way to put it
I don’t usually listen to podcasts but this one was excellent. Absolute wealth of knowledge and good discussion.
Thank you ... and thanks for watching
This is pure gold!
Thanx for sharing. Very nice to hear those old stories, 👍👍🍺
Thanks for watching
I could listen to Larry all day! what a legend for the sport
Truth there
thanks for the great conversation, excellent stuff, i would have liked to hear Larrys thoughts on lake Nipissing. cheers!
I have fished a small lake in Hayward for over 30 years. Use to a good action lake. Now northerns in it and I have not caught one on probably five years. Thanks as always Pete Dave and Larry
Unfortunately there are several cases of that
Joe Bucher claimed while guiding said he saw a fish of a different class once in a North Woods Lake. I suppose if a 58lb. exists a 60lb freak class is possible. The Flowage of 1949 in it's prime was way less fished with fat Greenies from the dam. Maybe the next is Green Bay? Thanks you guys great great show!
Certainly a few freaks are possible; certainly overall though I think the capabilities are what they are ... common sense always told me that when I spoke to all those guys who were young men guiding back in those days - the fact that none of them ever got beyond 43 lbs in their boat that it was very likely quite close to upper end of what you could expect
Thanks bro ... and agreed on that, we actually should do more on this kind of thing
Great video guys! Keep up the great work!
Thx Mike
This was excellent! Thank you for doing this.
Thanks for watching
Very interesting watch. I love historical fishing stuff and those that dedicate their time to document and carry it on. I just have to say that I have the current C&R Sturgeon record here in MN and the shit I went through and people I dealt with after submitting it makes me think I might not want to do it again. I can understand why some of these guys don't even want to talk about the fish they catch.
That is a real shame if that's the case ... shouldn't be that big of a hassle
Thanks for everything that you do for the love of fishing!
Thank you and thanks for watching
Nuts and bolts, nuts and bolts. We got scr*wed! Liars do suck. Great job sifting through the lies and truth.
Liars definitely suck
Great video, thanks Pete!
Thanks for watching!
Got to get Dettloff on there now and listen to him defend the Hayward fish.
That would be fun
He's the guy that dresses like Louis Spray ever year in Hayward for the parade...he is incapable of being objective.
@@oledahammer8393 lol, yeah that's actually some real weird truth
@@oledahammer8393 kinda the point
@@illmuskyhunter3313
That’s true. Larry Ram man thinks
He’s the foremost authority On this topic. However, he doesn’t know everything that lurks in the deep.
Great information guys. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching
I've been fishing for muskies since 1987. The biggest I caught were about 42 lbs. ( Estimated weight ).
I've been trying for a 50 pounder, but , none yet . I fish some of the same waters as Larry, but without a guide & I only use 1 hook on my baits. I always wondered how come a lot of these " Record fish " looked smaller than some of my 35 pounders .
Thanks for watching. Yeah, the answer to your question is a little bit of lying
Nice work fellas!
My family comes from the Parkfalls and Springstead area they moved away before I was born, but somehow the quest for muskies followed me and the Northwoods will always call me back. It is sad but true that much of our history is lies from the Paul Reveres ride to the size of muskies that never were. When someone asks what does a little lie hurt, it is a theft of history from all.
Thanks for watching - and your thoughts ... agree on your thoughts on effects of lying
I got to experience Georgian Bay and the lower French River for the first time last Aug and it truly was mind blowing. The way those fish fight was like nothing I've ever seen it was wild. The way fish get 56 58 inches up there it's hard to think of many other places other than the Saint Lawrence that fish regularly reach those lengths and weights.
In regards to that Minnesota state record fish that record is now meaningless considering the amount of forward facing sonar units they had on the boat the fact that they hunted that fish for multiple days and quite honestly there's a small group of the industry that isn't convinced that that fish wasn't snagged you then look at what happened on Lake of the woods with the purposely snagged fish that had the Matlock in it's mouth it's not unreasonable to have the thought.
(Looks like I screwed up and this got posted separately so pasting here.) Yes those truly are amazing fisheries; anywhere the female achieve 55 and above are truly amazing. With regard to other I personally don't think fair on snagging; though I suppose possible they still worked hard from what I have heard
Loved this video it had my complete attention. I could have watched for 4 more hours!
Thanks for watching!
I was going to say the same thing. Pete, if you want you can make HOURS of this kind of footage. We want to hear from the guys who have been around the block. Share the knowledge, the stories, the research. If you don't, it will be lost in time. Share with us those conversations that you had with the guys who came before you, too.
Larry tells it like it is!
Yes
Awesome video thanks!
Thanks for watching!
A few legands right here.
Good job as usual on this issue. I remember when you used your have a podcast I think you and Larry did this back then. It was a great show and this is just as great I remember when I was a kid and coming up to lake tomahawk area hearing all these story’s and seeing the big muskys in the cooler in front of the esox inn. So all my summers there I always thought the next cast could have been mine. But even back then our family had a great guide up there that he even didn’t think they all were real Anyway great job guys Keep it up
Thank you!
great stuff thanks !!!
Thanks for watching ❤
Larry has always done meticulous research. Having been a Fish Pathologist, Fisheries Research Scientist...and Musky angler for 46 years, we have to look at this logically. Given catch and release is nearly at 100% for at least 20 years, and nearly that for a full decade before that, the gear has been at a point for many years where it simply does not fail no matter how large the fish and the fact there have been extensive stocking programs and length limit/catch and release only regs in key waters for a very long time...yet not one fish has been caught that one could say would break the world record for weight. It does not make sense. We also have greater access to waters the certainly could produce such a fish in the northern most latitudes of the Muskellunge range (Lac Seul, Georgian Bay, Ottawa River, French River, St. Lawrence River, etc.) where the fish live the longest and have access to highest protein food sources with unlimited availability. And yet, in a very short amount of time, Johnson and Spray caught a number of fish, consecutively, that none have matched since. In a water were NO fish even remotely approaching that size have been caught since. In spite of protective regs and stocking for decades. Logic dictates those fish were not legitimate in their weights.
All true. Thanks for some heavy logic ... that actually adds much simplicity
1/2 I just have add a couple corrections/addenda to Larry's comments. Despite the Wild Rose euthanization of fall FINLGERLINGS in 2023, we were still able to stock a record number of over-wintered YEARLING Great Lakes Spotted Muskies (GLSM). The yearlings have significantly higher survival-to-adulthood rates than fingerlings, so things are still looking good. We'll be OK. I'm a former president of Titletown Muskies, Inc. (Green Bay) and am intimately involved with the DNR stocking efforts, habittat restoration, and university research on our World-Class fishery. Please feel free to reach out if you have any questions. More info can be found here: ua-cam.com/video/jBB4Hhv7Lpo/v-deo.html
2/2 Also, the Wild Rose fish are Green Bay fish; not MI fish. The GB eggs/milt are collected on the Fox River every May, fertilized, and sent to Wild rose to be released as Fall FINGERLINGS. Some are also sent to MI. In turn, LSC fingerlings are sent to the Besadny Anadromous Fish Hatchery in Kewaunee, WI where they are over-wintered & released as YEARLINGS. We send our fertilized GB eggs to MI and they give us LSC fingerlings. The WDNR has instituted a reciprocity program with MI for several years to improve the genetic diversity and minimize the potential for complete die-off should VHS or some other malady infect our fish. Hope this clears things up.
Thank you. And good news
Very nice vid. Glad to see you both agree about keeping an oversize tanker aint the worst thing... as its about at the end of their life cycle anyway
No in reality I have to admit that if they're 50 + lbers they have very little or time left to reproduce
I didn't know that the musky that shared waters with Northern Pike spawned twice.
It's unfortunate that the world record is most likely false.
This was very interesting!!
Thanks for watching
As a Sconnie native my extreme bias wants to say that the world record hails from Wisconsin. But reality says otherwise.
I can understand
@petemaina7073 have you seen the muskie that is mounted at Stove Works? Apparently it was speared. But an unbelievable specimen nonetheless. If that thing is real, it has few rivals.
My first Muskie was guided by the great Wayne Gutsch I was 10 years old I’ll never forget it Wayne said that fish jumped out of the water higher than he ever seen before and it did I’m guessing it was 8 feet in the air was only a 32” but it was a rocket launch ,on the flowage Wayne was in my eyes the best there was he put me on fish every single time we went out I lost my first 50 plus with him on Pete’s bar the boat wasn’t even stopped yet and I jumped up on his tuffy bow and casted a Gutsch black blade bucktail still one of my favorites to use and made maybe one crank and bang it hit like a train jumped 3/4 the way out of the water and shook it loose Wayne immediately said that’s a 50 plus and it was gone I have many story’s fishing with him and after he passed and his brother randy is just as good too he has put me on several fish, I wish I had the chance to go out with Bruce tasker I could have in the late 80s too but always went with Wayne another fish I will never forget was with Wayne we were throwing tallywackers right in front of riesburgs bar in a pouring down rain storm front as he always rowed the boat never trolling motor , I will own that riesburg cabin on the point someday if I ever get rich and a hybrid that was pushing 50” smoked that tallywacker and it too shook it off I have many more story’s but those guys in the 80s really have stuck with me my whole life can’t wait to get back there in July been going there every year since 86
I know a relative of theirs Dave Gutsch he’s a great guy!!
@@davebrown318I never met him is he a Muskie guy too?
@@JimmyT995 no but he’s a awesome fisherman
Knew Wayne very well and a great guy; same of Randy which fortunately in the 'know' tense. Swapped many a story. For quite a while his basement was headquarters for late fall/winter Packer game watching
Could the lack of fishing pressure have lead to such large fish? Either way, it seems most hard core musky anglers don’t care about the record today. When questioned, they say they’d let it go. I would probably do the same. There’s several that would’ve probably broken the current modern day record, that were released.
Agreed
I would never know if I catch a world record cause I'm gonna release it
I personally would do same
Absolutely true
I find this very interesting but not going to get too involved in this ongoing controversy. I just like to fish for musky. I feel at times musky fishing has just become too commercial benefiting only tourism, guides, lure manufacturers and boat builders. The only benefit I see in all of this is that we know now much more about the habits of this noble fish.
Actually the focus isn't on any controversy; matters not at this stage; main point is how big muskies actually get, the better fisheries and why. Hopefully we can create some additional trophy fisheries as well
BEST THING IS ASK FISHERIES THAT CATCH THESE BEAST FOR EGGS
good show! biggest downside is the the ppl who really caught upper class fish that weren't appreciated for what they are.
i seem to hear/see less about the Ottawa river in recent years.
True that
Legends! Any thoughts on the estimated weight of MacNairs fish from 2008?
I believe it’s been said that it was 65 lbs
@@davebrown318 yeah I think between 65-68. Insane!
Consider a fireside chat with Rich Reinert in the future.
Topic?
@@petemaina7073 for Mr.Reinert…sharing stories about Tony Rizzo, influencers on R.R musky career, starting the WI Musky expo, his take on FFS,
@@petemaina7073 talk about Tony Rizzo of course and the musky shows that he puts together.
Rich is practically a 70 year old Steve Paul. Full of shit that guys a thief and a liar. I said what I said.
@@muskyslayeroutdoors3499 Modern Day Spray you say
The way I see it , if you catch a 40 lb + , that's a real achievement , a 50 lb + is exceptional. Forget a 60lb ,
Your more likely to win the lottery . Lets be real . 🐋
Truth
Ohio state record Muskie 55.1 pounds 50.25 inches 4 /12 1972
Amazing to be that heavy at that length; very cool
@@petemaina7073 Piedmont lake
No historical pike? What about LCO?
Pike don't get much love
LCO heard of 40 lbers but not 50
Yes those truly are amazing fisheries; anywhere the female achieve 55 and above are truly amazing. With regard to other I personally don't think fair on snagging; though I suppose possible they still worked hard from what I have heard
Back in 2016-2020 I had the opportunity to live and work up in door after high school. Having the access to the fishery of the bay was fantastic. I’ve mostly been able to keep my fishing private. The only ones that see me with fish is my immediate family. My friends think I just like sunset pics. It wasn’t until about 2020 due to the global panini that the bay started getting absolutely hammered. Muskie guys and walleye guys especially. It has been unbelievable the amount of walleyes that are getting clunked in July out of here. I fear we are headed towards the same story as the perch. Good news for the muskies is that the field only knows of 2 major structures. Good let them have it. Every access the last 3 years weve had to park off the highway and almost 3 years later post panini it’s still more packed ol than any weekday was pre 2020. These fish are getting hammered and I’ve become like an old man at the young age of 26 completely irritated by these dick swingers showing up and ruining it like a suburb in Chicago. The fish are getting hammered I’ve dialed back my fishing but these floods of people just keep coming.
Interesting comments ... sure does seem like it gets beat up bad; and that's why I have stayed away myself
Not mentioning the McNair fish out of the St. Lawrence is just a travesty.
Agree should have mentioned but nothing meant by it... St Lawrence is the ultimate for size IMO
This conversation is awesome! Thank you for making the video! I’m from the Chippewa Falls area and bought a lot up on a small flowage in the Hayward area. I hope to run into you guys on the water! Also, I agree with your perspectives. How can I get involved to help push your view points to the regulating agencies that need to hear them? I’d love to help.
@@reddon3414 Hey thanks for watching - and congrats on the property; is a very nice area up here. Not sure I know completely your question, but people do need to band together to put pressure forth to maintain and improve fisheries - especially if we want trophy fisheries. In the end the experience is only as good as the health of the fisheries. Appreciate it
I agree fish handling is very important. Ontario did an extensive study where they boarded all the fish, installed trackers and had them out of the water for at least 90 seconds. Every single fish survived. 100% survival rate. The scientists said as long as you're not hugging the fish or laying them on carpet which can pull off their slim, it's fine to board a fish take a couple pictures and release. I'm not arguing with anyone I shoot for less than 60. I'd say the average on my boat is closer to 45 seconds. We dip the board, have the phone ready for quick pics. I'm just saying I think the, "These fish will die if you board and take a couple of pictures," is false.
Sorry bro... can't agree with that remotely. Whatever study was done, I'd like to see ... but in warm water especially that is simply not true or possible. Boards mean more time out of the water and result in many fish struggling and especially in the case of beginners bouncing all around the boat. I know people personally involved in studies and the more handling the more they die delayed... for every fish floating dead there are approximately 9 that sink
Quick add... nothing is meant personal and I actually like that you put your thoughts out! But delayed mortality is cumulative effects exacerbated greatly the hotter the water gets
The west viriginia study has shown that, in water at or above the Musky upper tolerance temps, there IS delayed mortality. It's now proven scientifically. Leave Muskies alone in water over 75F! Air temps matter as well! Leave them alone when the air temps are 80F+ even if the water is at or slightly below 80F.
I've been dropping the board right in the water with the fish in the warm season. Gonna get you within a half inch.
@@Zewbacca Thank you! I don't have a problem with people who wish - measuring fish; just please do it in the water especially when warmer is much easier on the fish. Boards and other measuring devices work fine as I know quite a few who do it
art williamson real wr next wr caught in gb abyss un reachable by boat
art williamson true wr next wr george bay abvss fish have never seen of lure.
That was a big for sure
Stop with the technology talk it don’t catch fish it just maximizes your time just like any other fish finder the past 30 years.
You ever catch a Musky at night on a pounder? I haven't, but if I was using ffs and chasing a giant fish, a pounder would be the easiest bait to see on the sonar and easiest bait to snag a fish with
Why should people stop talking about the tech? It's become a big issue, like it or not since it is so good (while agreed it does not make fish bite - is truly a gamechanger, see the fish, size, position and lure); main focus really is can the fisheries handle it.
They can talk about whatever they want. The technology discussion is legitimate since it places more pressure on the fish and changes the nature in which some guys "fish."
Great Job Dave, Pete and Larry. I learn a lot.
Thanks for watching Doug!!
@@davebrown318 Looking forward to the next one you produce.