This juggernaut of a dragon just turned heat of his breath straight to plasma. Makes sense since he had what is essentially titan heart attuned to fire in his chest.
Considering how Groon was able to send Grog flying with his Flurry of Blows, I'd add that he used the Open Hand Technique feature to push him 15 feet away.
I love that two people using the same spell can look different, either relating to their class or just personality even if they do the same thing, visually distinct makes it really cool.
Yep... Although, flame produced by acetylene-oxygen mixture (burning at roughly 3500° C in open space, capable of almost-instaneously melting through/burning through steel at the point of contact and thus used in cutting torches) has blue coloration. And also anything heated over 7000° C will glow blue... By the way, to those who might subscribe to conspiracy theories, steel starts to weaken at roughly 400°C (depends on the type of steel, but still), and a flame in enclosed space can achieve much higher temperature due to heating up the space (after all, the temperature itself is just an indication of thermal energy in an object or area)
I just kind of assumed Umbrasyl breaking out of Allura's spell (which also could have been Earthbind, but you're probably right) was him burning a Legendary Resistance.
I've been looking into Earthbind you could be right on that one and I agree that he used a legendary resistance to free himself. Thanks for the informative comments I really appreciate it.
My guess is Legend Lore since it can be used at a distance. (5th level Divination) "Name or describe a person, place, or object. The spell brings to your mind a brief summary of the significant lore about the thing you named. The lore might consist of current tales, forgotten stories, or even secret lore that has never been widely known." The more you know already about a place, the more specific the information is as it tells you things you didn't know.
Thank you for this suggestion it makes me feel way better about this because Legend Lore was in my top 3 for this spell but I couldn't pull the trigger on it. Thank you for the comment I'm glad I wasn't the only one that thought about this one your awesome.
@Sadknight I remember hearing about it in the Trial of the Take podcast episode with Lyra, I had never heard of it before that. Otherwise it seems like a version of Augery that is more like Legend Lore, given that it's done on water
@@volteer1332 Another good point I looked at so many spells and a few got close but their was always at least one thing in each that was off that made it hard to call. Interesting I've never heard of that podcast I might have to check them out.
@@sadknight2826 I listen to the Vox machina podcast, not the stream, so I just have audio. Trial of the Take where they used the spell was episode 27, I think?
Interesting great point. Looking at the spells description I think you may be right on this one. In the final spell breakdown I may change this one. Thank you so much for this amazingly helpful bit of info.
@@ronandixon8486 Dang your bring up a great point too one spell has a better description but one mechanically functions better hhmmm I think I'll have to do more research on it and how they are effected by Breath Weapons. Thank you for the very helpful bit of information its very appreciated.
@@TalvezAroldo Regardless of if Breath Weapons count as magical, Globe of Invulnerability specifically states that it blocks spells, not magical effects. Most likely, the spell is Wall of Force cast as a dome.
5:15 I saw that more as an Earthbind spell, since Umbrasyl could still move his claws and land vertically on the tower to stop himself from falling. With Hold Monster he would have been paralysed and would have had no chance to grab the wall.
6:01 the waterfall itself could be a custom divination artefact, or a vertical divination pool. Looks like scrying, but also in time? Legend Lore or Visions of the past (Knowledge domain)
Thank you so much for enjoying the videos. I was thinking about giving Ability Checks and Saving Throws their own videos this season to reduce the size of each video.
3 epsiodes in and still nearly no magic for Vex. Where is her lighting arrow, hail of thorns, pass without a trace, hunters mark!!!! She deserves to be cool and shoot arrows that turn into eagles or something (Conjure Animals with a bit of flair, I'd allow it). Update as of episode 8: damn they really are attaching all that magic to just getting an new item :/ like it's not something within herself.
Has pike trick foot ever thought about using external energies rather then her own internal energies, I think if she thought to use external energies from the outside worlds she’d definitely be a limitless living goddess of multipurpose healing,
Great job, I play 3.5 and I am not a 5.0 player so I am not aware of some of the spells. Great video, keep up the good work. My thought on the Water/sight is it might be a holy artifact.
Thank you for the suggestion its really appreciated. That possible spell really gave me a run for my money but I'm luck to have such a great community that know way more about the game to help me out. Its nice to have a second pair of eyes on these things. It's really cool that your from 3.5e I've had to learn more about that system to figure out some of this spells because Critical Roles campaign started as a Pathfinder game which is really similar I believe. Thank you for the comment and for the help.
If you're playing 3.5, maybe you could answer this for me. Did ":Word of Recall" used to take the caster back to their "home", where ever that was? I thought that was what the crystal Gilmore used to get the party back to their fort did, but 5e Word of Recall take the party back to a previously prepared Holy space. Pike could have used it to get them back to her shrine in the fort, but would have had to prepare for that in advance, so doesn't seem likely. I think that was how the spell used to work back in Basic, but that was a long, long time ago.
I'm still learning 3.5e so I'm not the greatest with it but word of recall in 3.5e still seems to target a sanctuary not your home per say but their is a holy space inside their keep. The main differences I noticed is with the number of players you can bring with you. It seems like 3.5 word of recall has a 3 x caster level limit while 5e can only take 5 players. Thank you for the question I hope my answer was helpful.
I would say the spell alura uses on Umbrasyl in episode one is closer to Earth Bind, because though it does seem to wrap all the way around him, he continues to move(in hold monster he would be paralyzed) and the effect goes away as soon as stands on the wall. Just a thought though. so cool how your going through and pointing everything out.
Was kind of thinking a combo of Read Thoughts and Major Image. Item could provide the Major Image from her Read Thoughts? Arcane domain clerics get access to some of the wizard spell list.
Thank you for the comment you could be right. My reasoning would be that levitate is a Wizard/Sorcerer spell and zhra is a Warlock with the Great Old One patron which gives her access to Telekinesis. Thank you for the question every bit helps as there is a lot of information to go over and it is very easy to overlook something so I really appreciate it
Scrying doesn't quite match up. Scrying must target a creature, not a place, and they would have to target one of the dragons, who, even if they failed the save, would probably have enough legendary resistances to block it. Even more important however, is scrying shows the present at the targets location, while the waterfall is showing things that happened during the attack, which was a least a full day ago (the castle is shown standing, before Thordak blew it up real good).
@@jeanmaillard6001 OR it could be Legend Lore. Tells you about an important item, person or place. The fact that the city was leveled by dragons is probably the first thing that would come up on a legend Lore cast using the city's name.
Good point but it could easily be the design team taking artistic liberty or Matt homebrewing the monster like how the Change Shape ability is only found on metallic dragons but Matt used it on chromatic dragons all the time even in the stream game. Since Vorugal isn't a spellcaster like Raishan I choose to go with this ability as it is found in rare cases in dragon's like Tiamat. Thank you for the comment honestly it could be ether or as ether way it would be a homebrew addition to the creature and a deviation away from the original Vorugal stats no matter which we choose.
@Sadknight true I didn't think Mat hinted at anything in the campaign of Vorgul having that but we've seen deviations between the campaign and show with Archi's death. Still sweet to see the compilation and see how good the spells look
Solid point. My reasoning is that Holy Weapon imbues a weapon with radiant energy while Spiritual Weapon is a spectral weapon that the caster calls forth which is more like what we see in the videos. I believe them holding the weapon instead of controlling it from afar is more of a favor thing and not a limitation of the spell per say but I could be wrong. Thank you so much for the comment I really appreciate it and find it helpful for making this videos better in the future.
@@BoindilTwoBlades Ah I see which seen it is your right all it looks like is a glowing weapon but in the previous season they actual showed her summoning it more like the Shield of Faith which is what I'm basing it off of lol sorry for any confusion.
Spiritual Weapon kinda worked both ways in campaign 1. Sometimes it was a floating independent entity but other times it was basically a conjured weapon a character weilded. At one point Pike creates a spiritual weapon and hands it off to someone else to physically use. Not RAW, but certainly cool.
Isn't Gilmore's spell more like Shield one? That's what I thought while watching it. Great vid, looking forward to the rest of the series, love trying to catch the spells and rolls and then coming here do check! gj
Shield wouldn't have worked on the breath weapon. I'm figuring just some weird magic item effect - as that is Gilmores stock in trade. Wall of Force is a possibility, but the shape and size is off - but that could be because of the item.
@@jw__11 True in the campaign, but did that transfer to the show? Runechilds usually have a big glowing rune on their forehead, and that not there in the show art.
Its very possible with Vasselheim religious background some kind of divination spell makes the most sense but I couldn't pin down exactly which one it was but you could be right a Commune spell is a solid choice. Thank you for the comment and the wonderful suggestion.
8:26 Oh, was that child a shapeshifted dragon? I would never have guessed, I thought it had something to do with Craven Edge being off-putting Wait, why is the dragon shapeshifting here?
Looking at her wiki page I am not seeing anything that says Kima has a class or ability that should allow her to learn guiding bolt, which is a cleric spell. So I am pretty sure that is another spell that she uses in episode 1. But I could be wrong.
Good point I forgot that Kima wasn't a cleric she's a paladin. The art style looked the same as the guiding bolt for Pike during season 1 so I just assumed. Thank you for the heads up I'll do some more research on it and may change it for future videos.
She said in the show she wasn't too good with water yet (probably because she hasn't reached the water ashari place yet on her aramente). In the session she did use control water, but they changed it to keep it thematic.
@@Horrorcrusher8312 Oh yeah agree it well play apart of the battle against him for sure but I won't go into detail just incase you haven't seen the streams yet. Thank your bring up a great point your honestly right on track with this.
Thank you for the question. So without going into to much details just incase it spoils anything for you. The crystal in his chest is amplifying his power.
I totally agree that it behaves more like Dancing Lights but this is most likely the animators taking artistic liberty on this one just like how Pike wields her Spiritual Weapons instead of them floating nearby her. As Pike is a Cleric of the War Domain she doesn't have access to Dancing Light but does have the Light spell. Thank you for making a very insightful point I find it to be very helpful in making this videos.
I would agree but I had to clip out the part were they ask Keyleth that and she says she's not good with water spells right now and if a wind spell would work instead which the group agrees too. Thank you for the comment I really appreciate it. Sorry for not showing all of the details in the clip but amazon is a stickler about monetization.
"Call Armor" - isn't a cleric ability or spell that I can find. Is it some magic armor that she's picked up somewhere that allows her to do this? "Transport via plants", Percy is the last one in, but the second one out. It's fine i suppose, but they should have kept everyone in order. Also, trees that grow on a cliff face, still try to grow "up", not straight out from the face. This tree shouldn't look like it does, but eh, whatever. 3:12 I'm not sure if Wind Wall can do this. The description mentions gases and light objects being effected, but nothing about blasts of water. However, it can't do what going on next, at 3:25 This is either "Control Winds" (4rth level) or "Whirlwind" (7th level) 3:34 Telekinesis" can't do that, that has to be "Wall of Force" 3:40 Now this is "Telekinesis" 4:00 Maybe this is Eldritch Blast, maybe not. There are just too many energy beam spells it could be to be certain, especially given the amount of flavor they are putting into the animation. 4:39 I think this is just a "Detect Magic". Assuming they were just looking for the Deathwalkers Ward. "Find the Path" takes you to a specific location, not to an object or creature. When cast, this spell covered everything, and caused the door to glow. If they used Find the Path to find the tomb of Purvan, they wouldn't be going where they are going. Unless there is something else in the tomb they are looking for. I don't know. Don't spoil me. 5:05 yeah that's a Wall of Force. I had thought maybe Warding Wind, until the dying guards hand hit it with a thunk. It would have passed through Wind. 5:08 That's Earthbind (level 2), not Hold Monster. It very clearly matches the spell description, 5:23 This is a magic item doing something, probably not a spell, although it could just be making a very small Wall of Force. 6:03 "What do you think?" I think that's "Legend Lore" 5th level Divination for Clerics, Bards, and Wizards. Allows you to name a person, place or object, and provides a brief summary of knowledge about it. The dragon attack would be the most important knowledge at this point. 7:20 Flurry of Blows is right, but should mention it is being combined with "Open Hand Technique", which pushes the opponent back.
Thank you for the detailed question I'll do my best to answer them for you. Call Armor- is a 3.5e spell. Since campaign 1 was ported over from pathfinder which is very similar to 3.5e. Some spells were still used by the characters and monsters well into the campaign. So I look at their spell lists too when trying to figure these out. Transport via Plants- I agree they should have stayed in order. If I recall correctly about the tree it is that it did grow straight up but the landscaped changed. In the original stream the land was scarred by conflict and upheave the land which caused the tree to become sideways . Eldritch Blast- Zahra is a Warlock and in the original stream she uses Eldritch Blast a lot which is why I choose this one for her. Telekinesis- Since Zahra is a Warlock with the Great Old One pact she has assesses to Telekinesis but Wall of Force is limited to Wizards as far as I can tell off hand which I could be wrong about. I try to limit myself to mechanical restriction in the game like class, level, etc and only break this rule as a last resort but I do make mistakes and there is a lot of information in this game which is why the community offering a second pair of eyes is great and I appreciate everything you guys are doing to help me. Find the Path- you made a solid point here my reasoning was that their were multiple tombs so he was finding the path to the right one and I was interpreting each tomb as their own location. Since the spell looks for the best path and the tomb was hidden under the floor it may have chosen the best path that it could determine by going lower but I'm not sure and I feel that locate object or person would have the same problem. Like why didn't it just take him to the spot in the floor were it was hidden. But I do agree that it could be detect magic as both locations glowing could have meant that there both magical triggers but they could of glowed due to them both being viable path to get to the tomb. Don't worry about spoilers on this one I don't remember what was beyond that path. Earthbind- I agree on this one after reading more about this spell it does look like the best options I will probable change this when I do the all spell breakdown video for this season. Thank you for the insightful bit of information here its really helpful. The Item- Interesting point Gilmore does own a lot of magical items so this is total possible. I'd still keep it in the video as bonus point even if its an item because its spell related like I did with the teleport item Gilmore uses later in the episode. Legend Lore- this is honestly one of my favorite suggestions for this spell so I completely agree with you. Furry of Blows- thank you for the details on this one I'll add that to future videos about this ability. Thank you so much for your very knowledgeable and detailed response to this video. You made many great points and defiantly help me to improve these video moving forward. I did my best to answers each response and I hope I explain myself well enough and that it wasn't confusion at any point I hope. I completely agree with your awesome insight and hope to see you bring that insight to the comments again on future videos.
@@isaiahjohnson3487 She appears to be the one casting "Find the Path", which isn't available to Warlocks though - it's Clerics Bards, and Druids only. Was that spell something else? or is she a multi-class, or was that just something for the show?
@@bskec2177 I think it's probably tied to her patron. We know she is a GOOlock, so I maybe it's just like Jester talking to Artie, and her patron gives her the info. We don't know though. The only thing we do know is that if she is multiclassed, she has to have warlock. There might be more info in the actual CR episode(I'm re-watching anyway, so I'll check).
I mean, if we are going to start pointing out flaws, I'm surprised you haven't pointed out that Feather Fall at 1:53 goes against the spell's actual mechanics. Feather Fall causes "A falling creature's rate of descent [to slow down] to 60 ft per round until the spell ends. If the creature lands before the spell ends, it takes no falling damage and can land on its feet, and the spell ends for that creature." I get the whole, "they landed on breasts! Ha ha," but that isn't how the spell works. The spell targets creatures, not the area where the creatures are going to land.
Thank you for the comment I've been looking into Earthbind and I agree I think I was wrong on this one and I'm going to change it in the final spell breakdown video. Thanks for the helpful bit of information it really helps to have a second pair of eyes on these videos.
Ancient dragons are that strong. They are also incredibly rare. Ancient dragons usually get some spells, and extra abilities to represent their power levels. They are among the strongest creatures you can fight in DnD with some of them on the level of Arch-Devils or Demon Princes.
They are very strong since they are ancient dragons but Thordak is enhanced by the crystal in his chest. So he is abnormally strong by comparison to the others. Thank you for the question.
Thank you the heads up I did put a spoiler warning at the start of the video and I didn't explain it to help avoid that but you make good point about future spoilers. Thank you for your comment I'll see what I can do to avoid this in future videos.
Watching the first three episodes on my second viewing I realized that was the green dragon. When the three dragons were talking I kept asking myself where was the 4th dragon and it hit me. Not a spoiler my friend, and Sadkinght does give spoilers warnings.
Thank you for the support I've been trying to improve the videos based on the communities comments and I really appreciate all the feedback. Keep an eye on anymore people you see with green eyes in future episodes and happy hunting.
Thanks for the question. It was revealed later in the season but any character with those green eyes are actual Raishan (the green dragon) using her Change Shape feature.
Call Armor is 3.5e spell, did they port it 5e? Or did pike just have mage Armor? Or summonable Armor? Like cast-off armor(uses a bonus action to take on/off) and thus can seem summoned/rp as summoned.
They might of ported it. Is it in Pathfinder? That's what they started Campaign 1 in, and then ported their characters over to 5e for the name recognition on the stream. That was way back when they first started streaming from their kitchen table games.
Pike had regular Plate at that point in time, I assume the animation is just flavor/convenience, since they made all of her equipment and weaponry summons (Shield, Mace of Disruption)
5:58 "last time by yu gi oh" ex machina its a level 8 trickster spell without concentration requiert and it's in the category of nightrider spells (aka, every so often nightrighter ((the 90th show)) kid (((the car))) gets a buff that only is menchent, and only works in that episode alone, and is never mentioned again) its only purpose is to show / tell what happened last time, so we all up to date, and can go with the adventure without 18 prep work and it can only be used from NPC of kings or higher standard, a PC my learn that spell, but cannot use it outside of a save area or els the next D20 trow will be a nat 1 on death save or on "can i jup that river?"
It is who you think it is. I agree with trying to avoid spoilers which is why there is a spoiler warning at the beginning and why I kept it vague in the clip so people who already knew would get it and anyone that doesn't know wouldn't getting it without asking or looking it up. In which case I warn them that the info is spoiler related and from what I've seen from the comments others that are answering it are also being respectful not to spoil it for the new viewers. Thank you for the question and I appreciate you looking out for the new viewers please keep up the good work.
It is a spoiler but a clue is that I grouped all the abilities with the person that uses it. If you don't care about spoils though then I can just tell you. Thanks for the question I hope this helps.
Thanks for the question. So this is a bit of a spoiler so if you don't want to know then don't do this but at the start of the video I have a list of characters and this ability is listed under the person in question. I also grouped every ability with the person using it. For example at the start of the video all the spells are used by pike. So the little girl is next to scenes of other abilities used by that same person. Thank you for the question I hope I didn't spoil anything for you and I hope what I said made sense.
Warning Spoiler ahead. Stop reading if you don't want to know. Thank you for the question shape change is a dragon ability. The give away is the green eyes. I'm familiar with the twitch stream of the show that's why I know this is the shape change ability being used during this moment. You also see brimescythe using the same ability in season 1. Thank you for the comment I hope I didn't spoil anything for you and explained it well enough.
They flavor the magic in this show SO dang well. Thordak's body flares when he went full nuke-breath were such a dope touch
I loved the sound when the fire turned blue. Nice nod to gojira
This juggernaut of a dragon just turned heat of his breath straight to plasma.
Makes sense since he had what is essentially titan heart attuned to fire in his chest.
They did the dragons so well. Truly the world-ending badass creatures they were meant to be.
Agreed
@@sadknight2826 at 3:33 I think it is more of control water whirlpool
Considering how Groon was able to send Grog flying with his Flurry of Blows, I'd add that he used the Open Hand Technique feature to push him 15 feet away.
How can a show make me laugh my ass off, keep me at the edge of my seat and make cry at the same time?
Oh, that's simple.
It's a great show!
I love that two people using the same spell can look different, either relating to their class or just personality even if they do the same thing, visually distinct makes it really cool.
Thordak’s breath weapon may start as classic fire but that second stage looked like some home brewed Shin Godzilla atomic breath.
Yeah, I thought of Shin Godzilla too.
Made me think of Final Fantasy's Bahamut Mega Flare, especially with that nuke like explosion at the end.
Yep...
Although, flame produced by acetylene-oxygen mixture (burning at roughly 3500° C in open space, capable of almost-instaneously melting through/burning through steel at the point of contact and thus used in cutting torches) has blue coloration. And also anything heated over 7000° C will glow blue...
By the way, to those who might subscribe to conspiracy theories, steel starts to weaken at roughly 400°C (depends on the type of steel, but still), and a flame in enclosed space can achieve much higher temperature due to heating up the space (after all, the temperature itself is just an indication of thermal energy in an object or area)
Ancient dragons can all do extra stuff with their breath weapons. It's why Umbrasyl's acid rain is from her wings, instead of just a breath.
@@bskec2177 Don't wanna be "That guy", but Umbrasyl is a he. Raishan is the only female member of the Chroma Conclave.
I just kind of assumed Umbrasyl breaking out of Allura's spell (which also could have been Earthbind, but you're probably right) was him burning a Legendary Resistance.
Yea I thought of that as well like failed the first attempt to escape well on the wall then used it to get free
I've been looking into Earthbind you could be right on that one and I agree that he used a legendary resistance to free himself. Thanks for the informative comments I really appreciate it.
I'd say Earthbind would've make him fall slowly
My guess is Legend Lore since it can be used at a distance. (5th level Divination)
"Name or describe a person, place, or object. The spell brings to your mind a brief summary of the significant lore about the thing you named. The lore might consist of current tales, forgotten stories, or even secret lore that has never been widely known."
The more you know already about a place, the more specific the information is as it tells you things you didn't know.
Thank you for this suggestion it makes me feel way better about this because Legend Lore was in my top 3 for this spell but I couldn't pull the trigger on it. Thank you for the comment I'm glad I wasn't the only one that thought about this one your awesome.
@Sadknight I remember hearing about it in the Trial of the Take podcast episode with Lyra, I had never heard of it before that.
Otherwise it seems like a version of Augery that is more like Legend Lore, given that it's done on water
@@volteer1332 Another good point I looked at so many spells and a few got close but their was always at least one thing in each that was off that made it hard to call. Interesting I've never heard of that podcast I might have to check them out.
@@sadknight2826 I listen to the Vox machina podcast, not the stream, so I just have audio.
Trial of the Take where they used the spell was episode 27, I think?
Note also that the waterfall itself seems to be enchanted. So spells may not perfectly fit the description.
I think Allura's "Wall of Force" may have actually been globe of invulnerablity
Interesting great point. Looking at the spells description I think you may be right on this one. In the final spell breakdown I may change this one. Thank you so much for this amazingly helpful bit of info.
I thought globe of invulnerability only keeps out spells and magical effects?
@@ronandixon8486 Dang your bring up a great point too one spell has a better description but one mechanically functions better hhmmm I think I'll have to do more research on it and how they are effected by Breath Weapons. Thank you for the very helpful bit of information its very appreciated.
@@sadknight2826If I'm not forgeting something, Breath Weapons do count as Magical Effects that's one of the reasons they nerfed Yuan-ti and Satyr.
@@TalvezAroldo Regardless of if Breath Weapons count as magical, Globe of Invulnerability specifically states that it blocks spells, not magical effects. Most likely, the spell is Wall of Force cast as a dome.
Personally, I believe that the Hold Monster was actually Earthbind, as he was simply bound and dropped from the air instead of paralyzed.
5:15 I saw that more as an Earthbind spell, since Umbrasyl could still move his claws and land vertically on the tower to stop himself from falling. With Hold Monster he would have been paralysed and would have had no chance to grab the wall.
I took it more as a successful saving throw, since ot didn't have that much effect.
Or burned a legendary resistance.
@@Cassiopea525 thats probably correct, good thought!
8:35 that is the most badass breath attack I have ever seen
I just realized. when Vorugal uses true sight his pupil turns into the Ampersend D&D logo
Cool fun fact thanks for sharing.
6:01 the waterfall itself could be a custom divination artefact, or a vertical divination pool.
Looks like scrying, but also in time? Legend Lore or Visions of the past (Knowledge domain)
I too was thinking visions of the past. Not many divine spells can display past events like that..
That fire dragon versus the screaming geometrical angel. One on one. Who would win? I say the dragon.
Oh yeah I agree with Thordak's power boost especially gives him a strong advantage. Thank you for the comment.
I was hoping that ability checks and saving throws can be included like the previous videos covering spells/abilities, but this is still great
Thank you so much for enjoying the videos. I was thinking about giving Ability Checks and Saving Throws their own videos this season to reduce the size of each video.
Maybe the lvl 17 knowledge cleric ability, visions of the past 5:57
I feel smart when I knew at 7:46 when i first watched i assumed it had true sight. Funny part is, i've never played DnD in my life and knew it.
Awesome
I got season 2 news from this channel , thank you
6:00 I thought of it as just a vertical divination pool lol.
Yeah. The item does the spell
So I'm not the only one who thinks Raishan shape changed into the little girl lol
3 epsiodes in and still nearly no magic for Vex. Where is her lighting arrow, hail of thorns, pass without a trace, hunters mark!!!! She deserves to be cool and shoot arrows that turn into eagles or something (Conjure Animals with a bit of flair, I'd allow it).
Update as of episode 8: damn they really are attaching all that magic to just getting an new item :/ like it's not something within herself.
Pretty sure that Pike uses Detect Magic in Episode 3 to determine that the lake is "not an illusion".
Yeah I missed that one in the editing process lol. Thanks for the help it's very appreciated.
Has pike trick foot ever thought about using external energies rather then her own internal energies, I think if she thought to use external energies from the outside worlds she’d definitely be a limitless living goddess of multipurpose healing,
4:24 having the exact Control Water sub effect would be nice (like Whirlpool or Part Water)
Solid point. I keep that in mind for future videos. Thank you for the helpful comment I really appreciate it.
Great job, I play 3.5 and I am not a 5.0 player so I am not aware of some of the spells. Great video, keep up the good work. My thought on the Water/sight is it might be a holy artifact.
Thank you for the suggestion its really appreciated. That possible spell really gave me a run for my money but I'm luck to have such a great community that know way more about the game to help me out. Its nice to have a second pair of eyes on these things. It's really cool that your from 3.5e I've had to learn more about that system to figure out some of this spells because Critical Roles campaign started as a Pathfinder game which is really similar I believe. Thank you for the comment and for the help.
If you're playing 3.5, maybe you could answer this for me. Did ":Word of Recall" used to take the caster back to their "home", where ever that was? I thought that was what the crystal Gilmore used to get the party back to their fort did, but 5e Word of Recall take the party back to a previously prepared Holy space. Pike could have used it to get them back to her shrine in the fort, but would have had to prepare for that in advance, so doesn't seem likely.
I think that was how the spell used to work back in Basic, but that was a long, long time ago.
I'm still learning 3.5e so I'm not the greatest with it but word of recall in 3.5e still seems to target a sanctuary not your home per say but their is a holy space inside their keep. The main differences I noticed is with the number of players you can bring with you. It seems like 3.5 word of recall has a 3 x caster level limit while 5e can only take 5 players. Thank you for the question I hope my answer was helpful.
Can we have kratos
Mom: we have kratos at home
Kratos at home: Vox machina Kratos
I think the water scene is divine intervention, I can see them waisting it to see what has transpired. Or perhaps a combo of scrying and communion.
8:20 How didn't i notice that? I'll have to watch out for green eyes, won't I?
That Fire Breath went from Fire Breath to Nuclear Breath in 2-3 secounds :D
I would say the spell alura uses on Umbrasyl in episode one is closer to Earth Bind, because though it does seem to wrap all the way around him, he continues to move(in hold monster he would be paralyzed) and the effect goes away as soon as stands on the wall. Just a thought though. so cool how your going through and pointing everything out.
"what do yo think?" = DM's diffuse spell xD
Was kind of thinking a combo of Read Thoughts and Major Image. Item could provide the Major Image from her Read Thoughts? Arcane domain clerics get access to some of the wizard spell list.
Interesting I didn't think of combining spells that might work. Thank you for the interesting and helpful comment its very appreciated.
Incredibly disappointed you didn't call it "Bigby's Butt"
Dam your right I messed up lol.
@@sadknight2826 technically "butt stuff" is the name. There's even a music sheet in 5/4 time for it
5:13 that was most likely lightning lure
I didn’t notice the little kid was raishan!!! I am so oblivious
Was kinda hoping that Feather Fall would be named Bigby's Butt lmao.
When zahra takes scanlan from the water was more of a levitate spell
Thank you for the comment you could be right. My reasoning would be that levitate is a Wizard/Sorcerer spell and zhra is a Warlock with the Great Old One patron which gives her access to Telekinesis. Thank you for the question every bit helps as there is a lot of information to go over and it is very easy to overlook something so I really appreciate it
6:05 it's scry you can scry in a pool of holy water just like the mirror needed it is expensive
Scrying doesn't quite match up. Scrying must target a creature, not a place, and they would have to target one of the dragons, who, even if they failed the save, would probably have enough legendary resistances to block it. Even more important however, is scrying shows the present at the targets location, while the waterfall is showing things that happened during the attack, which was a least a full day ago (the castle is shown standing, before Thordak blew it up real good).
@@bskec2177 it's called bending a spell to make the story work and possibly not paying extra animation for things that allready happened
@@jeanmaillard6001 OR it could be Legend Lore. Tells you about an important item, person or place. The fact that the city was leveled by dragons is probably the first thing that would come up on a legend Lore cast using the city's name.
I feel like when you said Vorgul used True Sight he was actually using a detect spell. White dragons have a blindsight not true sight
Good point but it could easily be the design team taking artistic liberty or Matt homebrewing the monster like how the Change Shape ability is only found on metallic dragons but Matt used it on chromatic dragons all the time even in the stream game. Since Vorugal isn't a spellcaster like Raishan I choose to go with this ability as it is found in rare cases in dragon's like Tiamat. Thank you for the comment honestly it could be ether or as ether way it would be a homebrew addition to the creature and a deviation away from the original Vorugal stats no matter which we choose.
@Sadknight true I didn't think Mat hinted at anything in the campaign of Vorgul having that but we've seen deviations between the campaign and show with Archi's death. Still sweet to see the compilation and see how good the spells look
I honestly thought Feather Fall saw gonna be called Bigby's Booty or something
pretty sure 1:02 is holy weapon. Spiritual weapon is a spectral "remote controlled" blade.
Solid point. My reasoning is that Holy Weapon imbues a weapon with radiant energy while Spiritual Weapon is a spectral weapon that the caster calls forth which is more like what we see in the videos. I believe them holding the weapon instead of controlling it from afar is more of a favor thing and not a limitation of the spell per say but I could be wrong. Thank you so much for the comment I really appreciate it and find it helpful for making this videos better in the future.
@@sadknight2826 The golden glow looks pretty radiant to me, but I could be wrong as well.
@@BoindilTwoBlades Ah I see which seen it is your right all it looks like is a glowing weapon but in the previous season they actual showed her summoning it more like the Shield of Faith which is what I'm basing it off of lol sorry for any confusion.
Spiritual Weapon kinda worked both ways in campaign 1. Sometimes it was a floating independent entity but other times it was basically a conjured weapon a character weilded. At one point Pike creates a spiritual weapon and hands it off to someone else to physically use. Not RAW, but certainly cool.
The supercharged breath of the red dragon looked more like a plasma breath (purple dragon from 2e and 3e ) or the lazerbreath (aspect of bahamut)
5:57 I would say either Commune or Scrying
4:02 Eldritch Blast w/ Repelling Blast Invocation.
Oh good point I didn't think about the invocation options. Thanks for the awesome bit of information.
Very interesting and thanks you for information
Isn't Gilmore's spell more like Shield one? That's what I thought while watching it. Great vid, looking forward to the rest of the series, love trying to catch the spells and rolls and then coming here do check! gj
Shield wouldn't have worked on the breath weapon. I'm figuring just some weird magic item effect - as that is Gilmores stock in trade. Wall of Force is a possibility, but the shape and size is off - but that could be because of the item.
@@bskec2177 I mean, Gilmore is a Runechild Sorcerer (Mercer Subclass), so his spells looking runic would make sense
@@jw__11 True in the campaign, but did that transfer to the show? Runechilds usually have a big glowing rune on their forehead, and that not there in the show art.
Could the Vord spell to see what happened in Emon be COMMUNE?
Its very possible with Vasselheim religious background some kind of divination spell makes the most sense but I couldn't pin down exactly which one it was but you could be right a Commune spell is a solid choice. Thank you for the comment and the wonderful suggestion.
I think it's a giant mirror of the past
The waterfall vision I think is a custom magic item.
8:26 Oh, was that child a shapeshifted dragon? I would never have guessed, I thought it had something to do with Craven Edge being off-putting
Wait, why is the dragon shapeshifting here?
Without too many spoilers it's kind of a stealth infiltration kinda thing.
@@sadknight2826 Alright I'll keep an eye out for that 👍
Wait, Is it the dragon that's shown right before this scene?
@@nioviiosif5134 Yep Raishan
The change shape one is a massive spoiler
Ngl I thought the spell was What do you think? For a hot second 😂
I thought that the call armour was a magic item called foldplate.
5:51 “I cast Exposition”
Grog is so hilarious
Can't believe you skipped the belt of dwarvenkind
Thanks for the comment it's going to be in the Easter Eggs video I'm going to release soon.
Looking at her wiki page I am not seeing anything that says Kima has a class or ability that should allow her to learn guiding bolt, which is a cleric spell. So I am pretty sure that is another spell that she uses in episode 1. But I could be wrong.
Good point I forgot that Kima wasn't a cleric she's a paladin. The art style looked the same as the guiding bolt for Pike during season 1 so I just assumed. Thank you for the heads up I'll do some more research on it and may change it for future videos.
@@sadknight2826 might have been an interpretation of Divine Smite
5:58 is NPC magic. lol
Lol I was asking about the water wall I'm not sure what it is. Thank you for the comment.
3:29 Couldn't she just control the water instead of using winds? Sounds less exhausting to me than fighting it with another element.
She said in the show she wasn't too good with water yet (probably because she hasn't reached the water ashari place yet on her aramente). In the session she did use control water, but they changed it to keep it thematic.
@@morganmcinroy4211 Aaaaah thanks XD
5:10 i think theres also a use of a Legendary Resistance in this scene :V
Yep I agree but I placed it in the Checks & Saves video I did after this one. Thank you for the comment you make a great point.
8:47 I didn't know Red Dragons could pull a Shin Godzilla!
Thanks for the comment. This one can because of the crystal in his chest. They will explain in detail in future episodes.
@@sadknight2826 Perhaps it serves as a critical weakspot similar to Brimscythe's "Twin Rivers meeting."
@@Horrorcrusher8312 Oh yeah agree it well play apart of the battle against him for sure but I won't go into detail just incase you haven't seen the streams yet. Thank your bring up a great point your honestly right on track with this.
"What do you think?" is a really weird name for a spell.
well the change shape one isn't a spoiler at all
Personally wondering why Thordaks firebreath turned into a Godzilla laser.
Thank you for the question. So without going into to much details just incase it spoils anything for you. The crystal in his chest is amplifying his power.
That was actuaply dancing lights instead of light. Light is attached to an object and dancing lights are orbs of lighta
I totally agree that it behaves more like Dancing Lights but this is most likely the animators taking artistic liberty on this one just like how Pike wields her Spiritual Weapons instead of them floating nearby her. As Pike is a Cleric of the War Domain she doesn't have access to Dancing Light but does have the Light spell. Thank you for making a very insightful point I find it to be very helpful in making this videos.
I think what keyleth used on the lake is control water not wind wall
I would agree but I had to clip out the part were they ask Keyleth that and she says she's not good with water spells right now and if a wind spell would work instead which the group agrees too. Thank you for the comment I really appreciate it. Sorry for not showing all of the details in the clip but amazon is a stickler about monetization.
"Call Armor" - isn't a cleric ability or spell that I can find. Is it some magic armor that she's picked up somewhere that allows her to do this?
"Transport via plants", Percy is the last one in, but the second one out. It's fine i suppose, but they should have kept everyone in order. Also, trees that grow on a cliff face, still try to grow "up", not straight out from the face. This tree shouldn't look like it does, but eh, whatever.
3:12 I'm not sure if Wind Wall can do this. The description mentions gases and light objects being effected, but nothing about blasts of water. However, it can't do what going on next, at 3:25 This is either "Control Winds" (4rth level) or "Whirlwind" (7th level)
3:34 Telekinesis" can't do that, that has to be "Wall of Force"
3:40 Now this is "Telekinesis"
4:00 Maybe this is Eldritch Blast, maybe not. There are just too many energy beam spells it could be to be certain, especially given the amount of flavor they are putting into the animation.
4:39 I think this is just a "Detect Magic". Assuming they were just looking for the Deathwalkers Ward. "Find the Path" takes you to a specific location, not to an object or creature. When cast, this spell covered everything, and caused the door to glow. If they used Find the Path to find the tomb of Purvan, they wouldn't be going where they are going. Unless there is something else in the tomb they are looking for. I don't know. Don't spoil me.
5:05 yeah that's a Wall of Force. I had thought maybe Warding Wind, until the dying guards hand hit it with a thunk. It would have passed through Wind.
5:08 That's Earthbind (level 2), not Hold Monster. It very clearly matches the spell description,
5:23 This is a magic item doing something, probably not a spell, although it could just be making a very small Wall of Force.
6:03 "What do you think?" I think that's "Legend Lore" 5th level Divination for Clerics, Bards, and Wizards. Allows you to name a person, place or object, and provides a brief summary of knowledge about it. The dragon attack would be the most important knowledge at this point.
7:20 Flurry of Blows is right, but should mention it is being combined with "Open Hand Technique", which pushes the opponent back.
We know it's eldritch blast because Zahra, originally played by a guest of CR, is a warlock, if memory serves correctly.
Thank you for the detailed question I'll do my best to answer them for you.
Call Armor- is a 3.5e spell. Since campaign 1 was ported over from pathfinder which is very similar to 3.5e. Some spells were still used by the characters and monsters well into the campaign. So I look at their spell lists too when trying to figure these out.
Transport via Plants- I agree they should have stayed in order. If I recall correctly about the tree it is that it did grow straight up but the landscaped changed. In the original stream the land was scarred by conflict and upheave the land which caused the tree to become sideways .
Eldritch Blast- Zahra is a Warlock and in the original stream she uses Eldritch Blast a lot which is why I choose this one for her.
Telekinesis- Since Zahra is a Warlock with the Great Old One pact she has assesses to Telekinesis but Wall of Force is limited to Wizards as far as I can tell off hand which I could be wrong about. I try to limit myself to mechanical restriction in the game like class, level, etc and only break this rule as a last resort but I do make mistakes and there is a lot of information in this game which is why the community offering a second pair of eyes is great and I appreciate everything you guys are doing to help me.
Find the Path- you made a solid point here my reasoning was that their were multiple tombs so he was finding the path to the right one and I was interpreting each tomb as their own location. Since the spell looks for the best path and the tomb was hidden under the floor it may have chosen the best path that it could determine by going lower but I'm not sure and I feel that locate object or person would have the same problem. Like why didn't it just take him to the spot in the floor were it was hidden. But I do agree that it could be detect magic as both locations glowing could have meant that there both magical triggers but they could of glowed due to them both being viable path to get to the tomb. Don't worry about spoilers on this one I don't remember what was beyond that path.
Earthbind- I agree on this one after reading more about this spell it does look like the best options I will probable change this when I do the all spell breakdown video for this season. Thank you for the insightful bit of information here its really helpful.
The Item- Interesting point Gilmore does own a lot of magical items so this is total possible. I'd still keep it in the video as bonus point even if its an item because its spell related like I did with the teleport item Gilmore uses later in the episode.
Legend Lore- this is honestly one of my favorite suggestions for this spell so I completely agree with you.
Furry of Blows- thank you for the details on this one I'll add that to future videos about this ability.
Thank you so much for your very knowledgeable and detailed response to this video. You made many great points and defiantly help me to improve these video moving forward. I did my best to answers each response and I hope I explain myself well enough and that it wasn't confusion at any point I hope. I completely agree with your awesome insight and hope to see you bring that insight to the comments again on future videos.
@@isaiahjohnson3487 She appears to be the one casting "Find the Path", which isn't available to Warlocks though - it's Clerics Bards, and Druids only. Was that spell something else? or is she a multi-class, or was that just something for the show?
@@bskec2177 I think it's probably tied to her patron. We know she is a GOOlock, so I maybe it's just like Jester talking to Artie, and her patron gives her the info. We don't know though. The only thing we do know is that if she is multiclassed, she has to have warlock. There might be more info in the actual CR episode(I'm re-watching anyway, so I'll check).
I mean, if we are going to start pointing out flaws, I'm surprised you haven't pointed out that Feather Fall at 1:53 goes against the spell's actual mechanics.
Feather Fall causes "A falling creature's rate of descent [to slow down] to 60 ft per round until the spell ends. If the creature lands before the spell ends, it takes no falling damage and can land on its feet, and the spell ends for that creature."
I get the whole, "they landed on breasts! Ha ha," but that isn't how the spell works. The spell targets creatures, not the area where the creatures are going to land.
8:22 you coulda skipped that one for the sake of us who don't know the campaign :)
5:07
Huh, I thought that was Earthbind.
Thank you for the comment I've been looking into Earthbind and I agree I think I was wrong on this one and I'm going to change it in the final spell breakdown video. Thanks for the helpful bit of information it really helps to have a second pair of eyes on these videos.
Not sure about that one spell being Feather Fall. Maybe Bigby's Butt?
5:52 maybe Divine Intervention?
Wait, was the kid at "Change Shape" Raishan?
Yep
Jesus are dragons actually that strong? I knew they were death machines but I wasnt expecting that last fire breath
Ancient dragons are that strong. They are also incredibly rare. Ancient dragons usually get some spells, and extra abilities to represent their power levels. They are among the strongest creatures you can fight in DnD with some of them on the level of Arch-Devils or Demon Princes.
They are very strong since they are ancient dragons but Thordak is enhanced by the crystal in his chest. So he is abnormally strong by comparison to the others. Thank you for the question.
Yes, but also Thordak is a special case. As you'll see.
6:01 looks like Scry
Spoiler for the future episodes, on the change shape '-'
Thank you the heads up I did put a spoiler warning at the start of the video and I didn't explain it to help avoid that but you make good point about future spoilers. Thank you for your comment I'll see what I can do to avoid this in future videos.
Watching the first three episodes on my second viewing I realized that was the green dragon. When the three dragons were talking I kept asking myself where was the 4th dragon and it hit me. Not a spoiler my friend, and Sadkinght does give spoilers warnings.
Thank you for the support I've been trying to improve the videos based on the communities comments and I really appreciate all the feedback. Keep an eye on anymore people you see with green eyes in future episodes and happy hunting.
@@pauloconnor6280 I realized it bc of the video, but for me it isn't that harmful.
U brazilian too???
@@sadknight2826 you're doing pretty good man. Keep the good work
Detect thoughts
i think its not fire wepon its plasma and he is a purple dragon
What about the Sphinx?
Call armor is a homebrew or is fron pathfinder?
Thanks for the question. Call Armor is a Pathfinder 1e spell.
Question tho what is that magic shieldy thing the spinx did?
Why does it say change shape in the scene with grog and the little girl? If it is a spoiler i don't mind just tell me
Thanks for the question. It was revealed later in the season but any character with those green eyes are actual Raishan (the green dragon) using her Change Shape feature.
@@sadknight2826 oooh, okey thank you for the message!!
wait the kid at 8:27 was that a dragon?????
Yep
Call Armor is 3.5e spell, did they port it 5e? Or did pike just have mage Armor? Or summonable Armor? Like cast-off armor(uses a bonus action to take on/off) and thus can seem summoned/rp as summoned.
It could be for flavor, though it could also be an ability of the armor itself. I believe summon-bonded items are a thing, but I could be wrong
They might of ported it. Is it in Pathfinder? That's what they started Campaign 1 in, and then ported their characters over to 5e for the name recognition on the stream. That was way back when they first started streaming from their kitchen table games.
Campaign 1 started as a pathfinder game. They homebrewed and kept some abilities.
Pike had regular Plate at that point in time, I assume the animation is just flavor/convenience, since they made all of her equipment and weaponry summons (Shield, Mace of Disruption)
Who used change shape?
If you care about spoilers then don't look it up but the character's name is Raishan. Thank you for the question I hope this helps
5:58 "last time by yu gi oh" ex machina
its a level 8 trickster spell without concentration requiert and it's in the category of nightrider spells
(aka, every so often nightrighter ((the 90th show)) kid (((the car)))
gets a buff that only is menchent, and only works in that episode alone, and is never mentioned again)
its only purpose is to show / tell what happened last time, so we all up to date, and can go with the adventure without 18 prep work
and it can only be used from NPC of kings or higher standard, a PC my learn that spell, but cannot use it outside of a save area
or els the next D20 trow will be a nat 1 on death save or on "can i jup that river?"
Bigby's.... Bottom?
6:00 TV
"What's with the blurry picture?"
"Must be something wrong with the receiver."
*kicks goblin under the table
"There we go....much better."
Hey, who is that kiddo at 8:25? If it is R, pls put a spoiler warning to the others
It is who you think it is. I agree with trying to avoid spoilers which is why there is a spoiler warning at the beginning and why I kept it vague in the clip so people who already knew would get it and anyone that doesn't know wouldn't getting it without asking or looking it up. In which case I warn them that the info is spoiler related and from what I've seen from the comments others that are answering it are also being respectful not to spoil it for the new viewers. Thank you for the question and I appreciate you looking out for the new viewers please keep up the good work.
@@sadknight2826 eren yeager
At 8:24 who changed shape am I being dumb?
spoilers
It is a spoiler but a clue is that I grouped all the abilities with the person that uses it. If you don't care about spoils though then I can just tell you. Thanks for the question I hope this helps.
Who is the girl that changed shape?
Thanks for the question. So this is a bit of a spoiler so if you don't want to know then don't do this but at the start of the video I have a list of characters and this ability is listed under the person in question. I also grouped every ability with the person using it. For example at the start of the video all the spells are used by pike. So the little girl is next to scenes of other abilities used by that same person. Thank you for the question I hope I didn't spoil anything for you and I hope what I said made sense.
Who is the change shape person
Raishan the Green dragon
@@voiceofice no no, it's obviously Larkin
@@damned0wl were here and we don't have a funking clue where rashian is
8:25 What do you mean shape change? 🤨
Warning Spoiler ahead. Stop reading if you don't want to know. Thank you for the question shape change is a dragon ability. The give away is the green eyes. I'm familiar with the twitch stream of the show that's why I know this is the shape change ability being used during this moment. You also see brimescythe using the same ability in season 1. Thank you for the comment I hope I didn't spoil anything for you and explained it well enough.
Transport via Plants = Tree stride isnt it?
Yep
cure wounds could have also been lay on hands since she was a paladin
Pike is a war domain cleric
She was a war domain cleric, so she wouldn’t have access to Lay on Hands
Pike is 100% a cleric.
My bad I thought she was paladin not cleric I look really stupid
@@Shieldlord You are not stupid at all, I used to think she was a paladin to until I saw her use Spiritual weapon.