THIS Might Be The High-End VR Headset You Have Been Waiting For!
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- The Somnium VR1 is an upcoming high-end VR headset made by Somnium Space! It features super high-resolution 2880*2880 panels, eye-tracking, color 3D pass-through, a modular design and all is open source! Find out everything you need to know from Somnium Space Founder Artur Sychov in this CES 2023 interview!
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Are you looking forward to this? Do you have any questions for the devs?
Excited to see what it's all about!!!
Curious about different versions that will be available.
Know will be a version without passthrough cameras but what else can be cut out to make cheaper for PCVR only?
Is it possible to have without the Ultraleap hand tracking? Without the eye tracking?
Is it required to install any kind of Software in addition to SteamVR?
How reliable is the Wifi 6E streaming? Maximum supported bitrate (without buffering)?
Refresh Rate of LCD screens?
Battery life?
Removable headphones?
Yes looking forward to it but hope they will find a way to still make the inside out tracking version of it in the future.
That is a beautiful looking headset. As OP said above, the fact that it is modular is fantastic.
Very impressive. I’m routing for these guys.
Thank you very much!
Will there be a version for sale without passthrough cameras, hand tracking, and eye tracking, to provide a bare-bones/cheaper option for people who just want to use it for PCVR?
I personally don't need the perfect passthrough, but I think it should have eye and face tracking, because that otherwise leaves only the discontinued (and expensive) Vive Pro Eye and expensive Quest Pro. I have the OG Vive and I am happy with the passthrough, it is enough to grab something from the table or open/close the window. So anything not worse is fine by me.
Yes we will be selling a cheaper version without path-through cameras which will have eye and hand tracking
@@artursychov Disappointing there isn't an option to skip out on the hand tracking. That'll be a not insignificant extra cost that peeps will have to pay even if they want to use controllers 🤨
@@zig131 its not that significant, you will see.
THIS! there's a hole in the market for low end PCVR.
that being said, i feel like inside out tracking would be less expensive than the $150each base station
Diopter adjustment? The Vive XR Elite has it, and so should all future high end headsets have.
I am waiting on this, no standalone”YES”
@Artur Sychov: Have users of the Somnium VR1 wear their glases or can you say something about a possible diopter adjustment. And how do your headset adjust the correct IPD?
I like to keep brightness very low on any display (VR headset, monitor. cellphone, TV). So good black levels is a must (usually OLED makes that possible). What about the black levels on the displays for this headset?
If I hear someone saying that the brightness is so great, I immediately translate that to "black levels are worse than the competition".
For a cellphone high brightness can be important to use it in sunlight. But for VR??
I just want a headset with high res, high fov, high clarity, non-fresnel lenses and decent inside-out tracking at a reasonable price (read: not Varjo prices)
Love the look of it, function before form.
Thank you!
S as bd yet, still beautiful! (IMO, oof course).
Like to get an IPD range on this
I would also be interested in knowing what the IPD range on this will be and what the adjustment mechanism will be.
I've got a 71mm IPD, so while HP Reverb was a very capable headset, it nearly broke VR for me because the IPD mismatch meant I could never see through it comfortably.
Can the pass through cameras be enabled during a flight in DCS to see my real cockpit during the simulation?
Yes it will be possible
Amazing. Sounds REALLY REALLY good. Something the PCVR market has been waiting for since the too expensive Aero. But everytime I hear about the target group "companies" I fear the price will be high. I hope they keep it reachable for the PCVR community without selling a kidney :-). Keep it up! Awesome specs!
Price will be very reasonable
1. Since your focus is social VR, do you plan on having a face tracking add-on? If not, do you plan on allowing for an easy mounting point for the Vive facial tracker?
2. Does the Eye tracking support floating point states for blinking, or is it binary open/close? What about pupil dilation? Having floating point for blinking would be great
3. Does it include a mic? How does this HMD's mic compare to the Index?
4. Why not have build in audio like the Index? That provides such an amazing and immersive experience and no one has even *tried* to replicate it
5. What refresh rate(s) for the screen?
6. What's the binocular overlap FoV?
7. Can Index controllers pair to the headset itself or will we have to purchase additional dongles?
100% the same questions for me.
All questions I wanted to ask right here!
Using 8KX daily, it is sad there is still no Hmd with grown up FoV. I will keep an eye on this one, thanks for sharing this interview.
Let's hope the 12k will be better built and have new software
Four questions: 1) will I get dynamic FoVeated rendering with the eye tracking on all my VR titles because driving that resolution even on an RTX 4090 is going to impact performance. 2) Hand tracking needs to work in flights sims with cockpits like DCS and MSFS it’s not just a social VR thing, have you got it working in flightsims? 3) How is reprojection and motion smoothing being handled, we know from HTC & Varjo that they have to do this themselves outside SteamVR…. 4) Given this is lcd displays what is driving the backlighting FALD or micro led,how many dimming zones?
I think it's the same displays as varjo aero
Having an option for (HP Reverb G2 / Valve Index) floating headphones would be great.
The open source nature of this headset is very exciting. It looks like the lenses might be canted, how much binocular overlap does the headset have?
Very exciting headset - can't wait to see more! Only possible issue is It sounded like the displays are lcd? I hope the black levels are ok... Of course, I understand very high brightness is a plus on some lcd's so maybe worth the trade off. Would be good with more details on the display.
Artur will there be any accommodation for those of us that wear eye glasses; this set looks fantastic, really looks nice!
Exciting looking hardware! Two major concerns though are audio and vision correction. Hoping a mod comes along that allows me to take the speakers off my Valve Index to be used with this headset. I don't want to use earbuds and I sure as hell don't want to have to use a separate set of headphones. Good quality audio is essential for VR immersion! As for vision correction, there was no mention at all on how comfortable it is for people that wear glasses, or if it will offer some sort of minor vision correction adjustment like is rumored to potentially be a feature with Deckard (if we ever see it). Aside from those two areas, this headset looks very good and will definitely be on my short list.
I am 1000% certain it can be used with Vive Deluxe Audio strap... (w/ 3D printed adapters) That works on everything!
@@NextWorldVR correct
Using headphones is the only way to get perfect audio.
looks good, but if the display isn't qled with local dimming for close to oled blacks, then its hard to choose it over the crystal. 2023 looks like the year of high end headsets though, at last an improvement to 5k, bye bye fresnel, and better blacks
Very clever to make it modular, people love creating mods and love buying them as well.
Anyway how much does it weigh ? Looks front heavy for a headset with pancake lenses contrary to the pico4.
I agree.
Obviously we need first hand reviews, but it may simply come down to which releases first, this or the 12k.
VR headsets now should all have minimum 4K, no mosquito effect and 200 field of view. Colours and design is on second place.
Sounds great! And the photo of the HMD in the beginning reminds me a bit of WALL-E ^_^
Keep up the good work!
❤ Wall E :)
Can you tell us more about the eye tracking? Is it fast enough for DFR? Will its functionality be more similar to the Vive Pro Eye?
Will it track brow movements/analog blink detection, or just track pupil direction?
Just checked their website. This might be finally the ideal PCVR headset we all have been waiting for! Let's hope the price is doable!!
I'm so hyped that a VR/XR company finally does full color pass through right and as we/I want it.
I'll keep on saying this but Artur everything you do is absolutely visionary.
Looking forward to get my hands on this VR hardware gem !!
Hopefully see you soon at Somnium Connect.
Hi Arthur, so you are still in the design process, please don't forget about us glasses-wearers. For me, the "silly" cheap magnets around the lenses for adding ultra-flat prescription lens adapters, are the thing I love the most on the Pico4 HMD. Just as a suggestion.
Noted
It's nice to have someone other than Pimax and their missed deadlines/glitchy software for next-gen PC VR.
Nothing is truly next-gen except the 12K. All the rest, including the Crystal, perpetuate the same annoying "ski goggle" limited FOV.
Yes, Pimax is very scary to me to even think about buying their products. They seem to be very finicky, hard to get working, and break down type of headsets. They seem to be doing too many versions at one time and like you said missing their deadlines. No Pimax VR for me.
I've been using the pimax for 5 years now. The software isn't perfect but when u get it working, you don't have to mess with it again. It has the same set up labor as base stations. Ya sure it's a pain to get them mounted and synced but once you do, I haven't tinkered with them since and they've been working flawlessly for 5 years as well. I think tge reason why companies don't try to push wider fov is because it introduces so many issues in vr. Early object culling, increase gpu demand, costum lenses that are almost twice the size of the standard and power hungry usb bandwidth.
@@jacobcook245 a 4090 is barely enough to push max resolution in an aero with only 115 degrees. What GPU do you plan to use?
@@L_Emir_de_Passy A 4090, but Pimax have said that foveation will dramatically increase performance on the 12K, and I plan to play mostly old games with VorpX, watch video, and use a virtual desktop.
Unfortunately somnium does not have Variable focal displays where the eye tracking automatically enables the user to focus on close objects like the half dome once showed us
As a Pimax 8kx user…I’m V E R Y Interested….I crave more Clarity….But Can not[ Will Not] give up my Wide FOV
How wide is the 8kx FOV?
@@Verociity Its advertised as 200 deg diagonal ,,,but there are 4 setting. I use Normal..it has less side distortion. I believe that is 120 deg or very close
@@irishpat64 doesn't that come close to the Index?
@@Verociity Sorry,I'm not familiar with that model
Very interesting. I’ll keep my eye on this one, looks awesome for flight simulation. FFR included?
Can you do an OLED version?
No, OLED screens do not allow this field of view nor image quality yet. Our displays are HDR ready and very vibrant
@@artursychov ok I see. Can the backlight brightness be adjusted or be dynamic like in some TV's or projectors?
@@artursychov The StarVR One has a vastly larger FOV with OLED, and the PSVR2 has OLED and a similar FOV to the Somnium. Apple VR is believed to use OLED and have a similar FOV to the Somnium, too.
@@artursychov what about when OLEDs are released that do support that. Will you offer upgrade modules for the headset? Also in generally speaking not only OLED
Very cool device! I'm looking forward to preordering. While it remains only to buy Somnium Space tokens, now is a good time for this!
Are you also planning on releasing add-ons like for example for face tracking?
And will the headset allow for foveated rendering with the eye-tracking?
Also, is the bare-bones version without high-quality pass-through going to still have some rudimentary pass-through to grab a drink etc. while in VR?
I really love the idea for this headset!!
We do, but we also hope our community will do their own since headset will be opensource
It looks like a "highend version of the Pimax Crystal".....
Arthur is very sympathetic! I prefer such companies (Somnium Space, Vrgineers, HTC, Pimax) to Meta, ByteDance, Apple, etc.
It's fantastic to see innovation like this in the VR sector. The headset looks incredible and with those superb features and modularity/flexibility, I wish Artur and Somnium Space every success.
I do have a question...I wonder what Artur's thoughts are on foveated rendering? - does he think that something like Nvidia's driver-level-only VRSS 2 is the way forward, or does he think the game code itself (game loop and game engine) should, ideally, also offer an optimised foveated render pathway in order to fully unlock this technology? For interest, can he share an indication of, for each 'typical' game frame (real...not DLSS3), what percentage comes from the game code + game engine, and what percentage comes from the GPU? If a significant time of each frame generation is spent outside the GPU (i.e. in the game code) then perhaps it is the game engine that should be controlling (primarily contributing to) the foveated rendering process/pathway?
Thank for wishes and for this question. I will discuss with a team and get back to you. From what I remember big part will come from game engine implementation of our algorithm
Looks like Wall-E ... win win baby!
Sounds good, but will be probably too expensive. And although I have several 3d printer...I don't really want to print anything important for my expensive vr Glases. Everything should work out of the Box.
I like that its a pc vr headset...I don't need Standalone.
I like that its possible to play wireless (would be interesting how good is the quality in wireless mode)
I like the pancake lenses
I don't like that it looks somehow big and front heavy specially for a pancake headset.
If you are into AR, this could be a good headset. But I am afraid all this features will make it very expensive.
I would pay maximum 700€, maybe 800 if it comes with good sound (but if I understood correctly it doesn't have any speakers right?)
I still have many questions:
1. Whats the price ?
2. How good does it work when you wear glasses?
3. How heavy is it?
4. How good it the comfort when playing long sessions? How warm does it get? Does the lenses get fogged up?
5. How does it work with steamVR, do you need any extra software? How does steam find the headset when it's working wireless?
6. How long can you play wireless without charging?
7. How long does it take to charge it full?
8. Can u remove the Batterie if playing with cable?
I've been keeping my eye on this one. I'm on wmr samsung ody+ rn and I don't want to deal with the cable anymore. I can't even extend it enough to use my about 5x4 meter play area, so my next one will definitely be a wireless PCVR capable headset. Wouldn't pre-order, but as soon as I see prescription lense availability for this I'll be quite interested in this headset. Light house based design sounds good to me since I'm not too worried about pricing. Could combine this with index controllers.
I had the Samsung too (sold it).. have Index and had OQ1, 2 and HP Reverb. OQ Pro is your best bet... wireless PC connectivity (air-link). Colors equal to Samsung (no other consumer headset Has been able to equal the OLED of Samsung)... except OQ Pro. It's expensive, but see it as an Oculus + PC Headset combined. You won't be disappointed
@@ubarwolfie1689 I agree that those are good hardware. However I have not bought those since they cost a resource I personally am not willing to pay in: my ever dwindling privacy. 1000€ 2000€? Yeah, whatever. But letting Facebook/meta/oculus accounts or the telemetry setup on Facebook's hardware touch my stuff? I'll wait for the competition to catch up to Facebook until a non-sussy wireless PCVR headset appears.
I hope it has good lenses. I wonder why HMD manufacturers never use graded index lenses... That's what I would use. The lenses could be matched precisely to the size and shape of the optical geometry making for perfect 90° angle, no distortion at the far edges... etc.
That's what my right Brain thinks ....
My left Brain is chiming in saying:
'if the lens was matched that precisely to the screen and the HMD Geometry, then it would be much harder to change IPD without everything going out of that precise screen to lens graded matched alignment. They would need to make a different headset for every IPD.
(Quiet! annoying overly-analytical left brain!). Creative right Brain kicking back in: Then all we have to do is change where the screens are too when adjusting IPD, So they stay in that precise locked geometric alignment with the Lenses! (John Carmack are you listening I am available for consultation LOL)
It will have one of the best clear visuals you have seen in VR and I mean it.
@@artursychov Wow, very cool. I have held back from upgrading my INDEX, hoping that the next time I upgrade it'll be as big a change from my index as upgrading to my Index from CV1 was. I'm a technical consultant for Intel and I work for a large VR company that does training in high risk job scenarios. I would actually be interested in talking to you about not only my personal interest but professional venues. Something to look forward to, thank you!
Hey Artur, Leap hand tracking that is a great idea. Are there Unreal SDK's in the works? (My pet project right now is recreating Vintage Analog Synths in VR (that link to an external VST) I can't wait until this comes out. Is the Horizontal FOV at least as much as INDEX? (I am guessing $3,600.00) I can imagine how amazingly they could use this at my company for high end training in XR.
Inside out tracking ?
How much does this thing weigh and what is the IPD range?
Okay how much is this,looks just the best for flight sim training, also will you be exhibiting at any of the flight sim shows around Europe in 2023?
This sounds Awesome, Im defenetly looking forward to this.
4 questions:
Does it use Foveated rendering?
Is there automatic IPD adjustment?
Wireless option?
Is it possible to use Meta Quest Touch Pro controllers with this headset or do I use my lighthouse tracked ones?
Yes it has foveated rendering for VR and AR. Not automatic but a manual one with a good slider. Yes additional wireless module via WiFi 6e. Any lighthouse tracked controllers will work.
@@artursychov Looks really good. Could be a good candidate to replace my HP Reverb G2. The future seems to be the controllers with cameras like Quest Pro, but I understand it would be very expensive for now. LCD or OLED?
Seems to be the best option for PCVR , I’ll preorder if price fair , I really want a PC only headset with no battery
Be good if I can 3D print myself & build to save on cost too, they ought to do a basic raw kit of parts & CAD for the plastic parts
Just a straight PCVR headset with good visuals no need for all the gimmicks I don’t need my face tracked or AR
How much does it weigh? It looks very nice, and I'd be interested when they release a standalone, but weight is very important and it looks kinda heavy.
Can you find out the hrz of the panels? I’m hoping at least 120 hrz anything higher would be amazing. 144??
90Hrz HDR panels.
@@artursychov :( I really like the higher refresh rates offered on the Index. It's nice and smooth compared to 90Hz. I also wish this had micro OLED panels. Thanks for the answer, though!
@@DMan-ud6bt The "smoothness" comes primarily from the game engine + GPU FPS being able to hit the HDM's refresh rate. 90 FPS on a 90Hz panel is perfectly fine. I would focus more on improving sweet spot size, resolution, and FOV (as long as the HDM refresh rate is FPS achievable).
@@ChrisM541 I hear you, but I also know the difference in perceived smoothness depending on which refresh rate I have set in the SteamVR settings for my Index. That's the nice thing about the Index - I get to choose and immediately know if it's worth it or not.
@@DMan-ud6bt this will run at like 3x the resolution of index tho,more than 90fps would be hard even for a 4090
Considering the high resolution, will foveated rendering be supported with the eye tracking?
Yes, both for path-through and for VR image
when i can get a headset like this, for similar prices to what the hp reverb g2 launched at, but with ir inside out tracking and controllers, i will be buying one.
unfortunately it may be another 5-10 years before that happens, i expect this thing to be very expensive, plus use lighthouse.
It looks like such a functional, practical and well-designed headset, the specs are amazing and the passthrough is accurate. I feel like this is what we might've got today if Oculus wasn't acquired by Facebook, the Rift CV1 was on the right path.
@@WarezCommentary that's a huge plus for me as I can use my own choice of head/earphones, it's never good to be locked down.
@@WarezCommentary there are headphones inbuilt into the headstrap
I think it should be cheaper, than Vario Aero. Because if it will be more expensive - I will personally go with Aero ... want to upgrade this year to PC VR since I use my quest mostly through link with PC. All hopes 3070 will handle this displays because probably option to buy 4090 I will have only next year. Sooo... shiiish. This looks awesome and EXECTLY what I want, but the price may be my stopper. Second concern - is it comfortable to wear, hopes better than Quest 2, please.
You might get what you wish for ;)
With the specs don’t think it can be done cheaper and it has better specs vertical and horizontal fov are bigger.
And it has a build in mic what seems to be VERY expensive if you look to the Varjo😂
@@svenhoeylaerts3249 visual quality is not about the hardware cost, it is about the engineering and software quality ;)
Some people said that Somium has beater optics than Aero so Somium>Aero
@@svenhoeylaerts3249 Well, you know, for this one you can literally print a mic holder and buy something from Rode for example :D. That might be a game changer
i can't wait. been wafting for this type of headset, no ties to anyone.
Did it have integrated sound or not? Didn't quite understand what he said other than having a jack for 3rd party headphones aswell (or only?)
Oh, I was waiting for such specs to replace my G2.
Just my opinion:
I like the open philosophy and also is for PCVR only, but I'm concerned that since this is being marketed as a "high-end" headset the price will be absurd.
Removing features (audio, controllers, inside-out tracking and standalone) that competitors have, the price needs to match.
Personally I don't think I can bring myself to mount lighthouse trackers.
Price won't be absurd but also won't be at Quest 2 level, of course.
This may be the headset I go with as I build my pcvr setup. I may have missed it but what controllers does this use?
So is it only modular to the point where the end user needs a 3D printer and CAD experience? I.e for an attached headphone solution?
Amazing!!! You said about the passthrough camera that it is 4k camera resolution per eye, what about the full latency from camera capture to display rendering? Thanks
That's the best VR news We've heard in the past 2 years !
Overall great design, very promising! 👍What about local dimming?
Awesome. I have invested in Cube and stilll holding. Whats the price range and how youare planning to conpete woth producs from bog boys lime apple visual pro Arthur ?
Modular spec/pricing would be great too. Eg, if I didn't want it for AR I wouldn't need the 4k passthrough tech, could the price be reduced?
Another modular option could be standard DP link (sim) with a wireless (room scale) capability option.
Will the headset have foveated rendering with the eye tracking? This is becoming quite important with high res VR I think.
Inside-out tracking is a must IMHO. Lighthouses are yesterday's tech!
I really like the look of this headset, especially the way you've swerved the rather bland, standalone VR thing.
This, curious about it too! just make a basic version without all the expensive plus like 4k passthrough for people that don't need it!
@@fede4819 yeah,. Just the 'basic model' of a solid 'pro gear' feeling HMD, that right there would be an upgrade on everything else sets out there especially if it had really good lenses. Have you ever heard of great index lenses (apparently no VR manufacturer has)... They're not pancake lenses and they're not the ones that have all the lines... The actual shape of the lens allows the refractive index to be changed over the width of the lens... So in my mind one could correct for the geometry inside an hmd and get it perfect so that there's 90° angles and no distortion at the edges all you have to do is match the lens to the final layout. That's what my right Brain thinks .... My left Brain is chiming in right now and saying: 'if the lens was matched that precisely to the screen and the HMD Geometry, then it would be much harder to change ipd, without everything going out with that precise alignment. They would need to make a different headset for every ipd. Crap. (Quiet! annoying overly-analytical left brain! 😆). Creative right brain kicking back in: Then all we have to do is change where the screens are too when adjusting IPD, So they stay in that precise locked geometric alignment with the Lenses! (John Carmack are you listening I am available for consultation LOL)
@@NextWorldVR my bad don't mind my previous message, wrong chat 😅, what are the name of those lenses if they're not pancake? are they asherical? i didn't really get how they work but sounds like a novel idea!
Don't spread misinfo, lighthouses are still the best way of having ACCURATE tracking WITHOUT blind spots and positional DRIFT;
@@TheAwesomePcGaming Not misinformation, it's just that you didn't understand. 1970s hi-fi sound much better than modern audio systems. So why don't we have the old hi-fi systems?
Lighthouses are yesterday's tech. Modern inside-out tracking works more than well enough, without the need for extra units/cables etc.. or the extra cost. So for me, and most other people inside-out is preferable.
The passthrough sounds good - although what I'd really love is to be able to define a window of passthrough independent of the VR program currently running (e.g. to be able to see my keyboard or keep an eye on my phone). Is anything like that going to be possible?
It does look very front heavy. Also since the cameras seem to stick out very far this looks like it would introduce a paralax effect when turning your head.
Is the resolution mentioned in this vid? I've watched through twice and don't catch it (admittedly I was multi tasking)
Question: Will it have brightness control for those like me with sensitive eyes who need to dial it way down ?
I know in the video you said the price of the headset will come later when you have reviewers come try it, but being on a tight budget, now retired, pricing is one of my main concerns in getting high end VR headsets or any new VR.
But anyway, thanks for the video. Sounds like a great VR headset.
Wait for Oculus Quest 3
@@ubarwolfie1689 yes but quest is only 1.920 x 1.800. This is not possible
You said “tight budget”. You are unlikely to get best resolution in the market for less than 600 - perhaps try Pico 4 then.
I am sure pricing is a concern for almost everyone (especially these days). But this head set is clearly high-end so don't expect a Quest price-tag. That said I hope they keep it low enough to be visible on enthusiasts radar. As of now the only true high-end available on the market is the Varjo Aero and that price is just insane and only for the rich.
I'm currently using the HP Reverb G2 and running MSFS 2020 locally not with Steam. Will this new headset work for me? Gary
Will the lcd be zone dimmable?
No, because they would have mentioned it on their website if it was.
This looks very nice. Nonetheless, I am confused and would like to learn more about three things.
1) How will the headset connect to a PC wirelessly without standalone capabilities?
2) The anchor point idea is cool, but how will this be more modular than other headsets in practice? The face gasket, headstrap, audio, even controllers I believe if you are using steamVR are de facto modular even on intended to be proprietary headsets like the Quest 2. Maybe I'm missing something but it seems like the only major difference here in terms of modularity is intention.
3) Why the need for so much room for active cooling if it is just for PCVR streaming? Also just how much longer does this make the headset? Biggest actual turnoff is that it looks fresnel lens size despite having pancakes.
It obviously has a SoC, even if it cannot function standalone. Virtually all VR HMDs have chips of some kind for hand and controller tacking.
@@Wobbothe3rd I know that, I'm just wondering how exactly the experience of logging in wirelessly would work. For instance, will there be a limited utility home screen where you can then log into your PC via virtual desktop or a similar Somnium app, or will it just boot directly connected to your computer via WiGig or a dedicated router after connecting the first time? Will I be able to remote stream my PC like I can on Virtual Desktop? Can people use Cloud PC streaming? It's presents worthwhile questions as all the existing wireless PCVR headsets I've used have full standalone function, I'm not questioning that it's possible to have a dedicated wireless PCVR headset but just wondering how the experience would work. And for the cooling, I feel that my Reverb G2 never ran hot and I'm just wondering exactly how hot something can get from non-standalone processing (decoding and encoding signals, etc), though ya I know Reverb G2 doesn't even have to do these calculations since it comes over the wire uncompressed.
whoa that's really cool!!1 S tier
Even thoguh its pcvr do you need to use a wire to play or is it wirelesd
There will be optoonal wireless module sold alongside VR1
for the 3d printing part's , where can we download it?
i may have missed it but what is the ppd of the headset?
I am with you, PPD is the real metric nobody want to talk about. I have been waiting for a real daily driver for work for a while.
The FOV and resolution closely match the Pimax Crystal, so I assume the PPD is around the same.
Is there any change that it's going to get Inside out tracking?
They initially wanted to create a Standalone headset with inside-out tracking but Qualcom didn't want to partner with them to do that.
Creating 6-SDOF tracking/computer-vision software from scratch is REALLY hard so everyone making standalone headsets uses a Qualcom SoC (e.g. Snapdragon XR2) and gets access to Qualcom's tracking algorithm to work from.
It looks very cool....but it also looks absolutely massive. Maybe the perspective is wrong in the video but for pancake lenses, it's huge. I'm all in for PC VR so this does interest me despite its size. It's about visuals and the experience.
My main question is about the "sweet spot" I have a G2: looking straight on, text is very clear and easy to read, but if you move your eyes around, it's blurry outside of the center. Are you able to keep your head stationary and move your eyes around to be able to read books and websites effectively?
Not involved in this project at all but I am 100% sure the sweetspot is very large. Beating G2 is not a big challenge with pancake lenses these days.
Pancake lenses are known for having a very wide area of clarity.
Cool seb!
Lets talk specs....
We don't need pass-through format pc vr if it can cut costs
Can I time travel into the future where mixed reality headsets are affordable with 16K per eye resolution in the shape of normal glasses?
Sure, all you need to do is build a time machine and you are all set to go. I think you can get a Time Machine at Best Buy. We are always looking for something better than what is available. Technology moves in small steps.
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No but i bought a sex doll instead. Better than VR pron.
if the prices are high the modularity wont work because the community will be so small. 3d print attachement e.g. for headphone holder wont be available on regular plattforms because those who can aford expensive gear wont necessary play around with it by modding. hope it works!! realy cool device! like it!
I was interested until I read this... "Somnium Space is the world’s first open, social and persistent Virtual Reality platform built on blockchain. Its unique decentralized NFT based economy allows users to own, trade and exchange digital items in a permission-less way."
dont know if there allredy is, but are there going to be trackers that work over wi-fi insted of wires? coz that would be quite nice could use entire room over wifi
I am very curious as to how the AR/XR will work, will it ship with software or an environment you can selectively bring in real world elements/mask things in/out and track those real world elements in the VR 3d space? Or will someone have to write/create that software/environment?
I was hoping that the technology would of progressed to high end goggles by now. I have 3 headsets from over the last 10 years and the size and weight really annoy me. I guess I'll have to wait another 10 years. I do appreciate the brilliant developers efforts though.
There were goggle-sized HMDs at this years CES. You just happened to choose this very particularly large advanced HMD to leave your comment.
What will make or break this purchase for me is if it will be native lighthouse compatible? I know about open space calibrator but can't stand the drifting and constant recalibration.
I'm simply happy that companies are still investing and pushing the market forward. Things easily couldve went the way of 3d tvs.
I hate to say it but Facebook deserves the most credit , their quest has kept the industry afloat.
Every other headset pitched in as well so I'm not discrediting them.
Excited for all of these next gen headsets.
Hopefully Sony opens up the psvr2 for PC compatibility
Please let me know price and availability date . Thanks.
Doubt this will get answered here, but will all of the raw camera feeds be accessible? I would assume so due to the open nature of the hmd.
I like this HD but I see 2 main issues that won't make it a sell:
- no integrated tracking (the valve tracking boxes are obsolete and need room mounting), new devices must use integrated sensors, this is an absolute no go.
- low FOV, the future is wide, see pimax or similar
"valve tracking boxes are obsolete" ?
"see pimax or similar" ?
This shows what kinda VR user you are.. definitely, not an enthusiast because everyone knows that Valve "-tracking boxes-" or what I like to call *Lighthouses or base stations* offer the best tracking to date.
Secondly, all the high-end VR headsets which target the VR enthusiast ( _not mainstream consumers_ ) rely on base stations including the Pimax that you mentioned, as well as *Varjo Aero & BigScreen Beyond* . In fact, Even the *Pimax Crystal* which operates using inside-out tracking is getting base station support since they know it is far superior to inside-out tracking.
I suppose you get yourself a PSVR2 or meta quest
@@m0rph3u5. it's simple, they have to develop something new, so nobody wants to get those boxes around the room, they take space, require pods or holes in the walls and effort to install.
I am very well aware of current technology and I know what you mean, I simply don't want to get the same bullshit over and over.
The future must be less pieces, integrated tracking with the same capabilities as with the boxes and a serious FOV finally. We are tired of getting bad copies of already existing headsets.
I'd like an indication of the price because I'm on the list to buy the Pimax Crystal, but if this headset costs more or less the same amount, I can wait. Thank you
Where to buy these product Sebastian?
Be a first and provide corrective lenses options on order that ship with the unit .
Interesting. But what do you need to run it? 2x4090sli? 😜 Guess the psvr2 makes MUCH MORE SENSE. Ps5 for 500€ and the psvr for 500€. Still much less than a 4090 without a pc
Is there a news letter or something we can subscribe to in order to know when the price and pre order is available?
Can you hook it up to HDMI to just view virtual desktop seeing as resolution is good, will it work with Linux. It would be awesome if you can use any hdmi input like PS5 to display UA-cam or games. It would be cool playing for instance Mario cart in a cinematic experience if you add feature to have hdmi input displayed as a cinema like screen. The PSVR allowed this.