Did Monty have leverage? Yes. Who gave it to him? The same guy who gave Swayman all that leverage. The Blues were not alone. There was another team. Maybe the league realizes the coach is not the problem. The GM is.
Murray has such an overactive imagination. Just shoots from the hip on full auto and then once it’s been spoken (by him) he just acts like it’s reality.
You guys are surprised that he got rehired that quickly? Do you guys not do your research? The key is the team who picked him up. Montgomery has played for, minor league coached for, pro assistant coached for the Blues. His wife is from StL and they still have a home in the area. They were the first to give him a chance after his drinking issues. It was reported that he had a good relationship with Blues players as the assistant to Berube. He has a good relationship with management.
@@schlafinMonty wasn’t with the Blues during their cup run in 2019, he was the coaching Dallas opposite the Blues that year. But you are correct that when Monty arrived after the Blues cup run he did fix the power play and made it a top power play in the league.
Montgomery did not want E. Lindholm or Zadorov. They didn’t fit his system. But, he had no say in that. If you watch his pre game interview, Monty says “from the owner to the front office knows what they’re doing.” Monty was fired on Tuesday and on Wednesday the Blues GM called and said come back here. Monty did what he could do with the players he had. Even the players said “we aren’t playing to our full potential.” If the front office doesn’t get the coach involved on the players he needs then what’s the sense on even having a coach? Cam & Neely are going to do what THEY think is best without any in out by the coach. Both are next on the hot seat.
and if the Bruins play them again in the playoffs, and that’s a big if, Joe Sacco will also lose. Because Florida is a better team with better players. The only reason Sweeney has a job is because he is using coaching as an excuse. Kinda like you are.
Wrong. Florida is a much more talented team. The Harvard educated genius is the problem. This team is a total rebuild away from truly competing for the Cup. But they will keep being just good enough during the regular season to keep their smug fans buying tickets.
So dramatic by these three bozos. Bruins spent big bucks. Were one of the Stanly Cup favorites. Team starts the season bad. Lot of pressure to win. Monty frustrated as nothing works. Tries to make an example out of Pasta & Marchand to get the team rolling. Nothing worked, so he gets fired. St Louis also has a bad start. GM decides to make a change of coaches & grabs Monty. It's that simple, but these clowns are like 14-year-old girls, giggling & making up stories.
I mean.. Montgomery said in a Blues media interview that he was surprised when Army offered him the job. He said he thought it was going to be a social "sorry you lost your job" call but I guess he could have lied.
Montgomery is a good man and wish him good luck with the Blues. But I do think he changed the Bruins lines too often. So the players had no chemistry and of course you will lose games. He even did this during the playoffs.
The Bruins in recent years have prided themselves on their culture and I really didn't think it changed that fast. This may sound weird but what's the chance he actually asked to be fired and Sweeney did him a wink-wink favor knowing that St Louis would pick it up? Sweeney and Monty didn't agree hockey-wise obviously. Monty is a go play kinda guy that doesnt seem to be all that system oriented so Sweeny goes out and increased size and took away the speed game. Sweeneys way does work with a coach that sees things that way. They can win a bunch of 3-2, 2-1 games, but Monty doesnt play that way and those conflicting styles butt heads big time.
The Bruins stopped playing for Monty after getting out-coached for the second time against FLA. The first version coached itself; the second (last year) had 65% quality goalie starts. He did not accept the Bruins offer. Why did this saga continue into the first 20 games?
They wanted Montgomery over Bannister but he was under contract with Boston so they hired Bannister and waited for his contract to be up! Sweeny and Montgomery didn’t get along and Cam Neely didn’t like Monty either!
So it does seem li 8:16 ke the Cassidy exit. Montgomery is a good fit for St Louis having a long history there as player and coach including a Cup win in 2019.
I just think it doesn’t matter and quite frankly I don’t really care. The time to fire him was when they had the best roster in the history of the salary cap era and choked to Florida. Now he’s going into the season with significantly worse roster, a weak forward core and the same expectations. His seat was already hot and he knew it. The players putting up egregiously and honestly inexplicably bad results through the first 20 games just expedited the process. He was going to be the first domino to fall this year if results didn’t come, and it doesn’t matter if he signed an extension. The players gave up so he did too. If there was tampering, that’s unacceptable but again doesn’t really matter and it’s just as likely the blues just scooped him up the second he was canned. Who knows maybe there were a few conversations in passing and it was in the back of his mind anyway, I just think it was time to move on and it just doesn’t matter now. It’s easy to look back at this whole thing and be like “see! Monty wasn’t motivated so that’s why the players sucked!”. I just think we’re underestimating the pressure from 2023 and how he knew if the team didn’t get to the playoffs and put a better results than years prior, he was gone this summer anyway.
You say choked but don't forget you lost to the eventual Champions (follwoing year but still). Panthers were a good team.Nothing is guaranteed in the playoffs especailly for the President Trophy winner.
I don't know what's crazier.... The fact that they actually let these three clowns talk about hockey, or the fact that anyone takes Ty Anderson seriously as a source
St. Louis did us a favor... That 1st. round exit in '23 will haunt this team for a long time coming. That failure was all on Monty and his coaching staff. If Swayman didn't stand on his head a year ago, Toronto would of advanced to the 2nd. round... See ya...
100% had this in his back pocket the whole time. Don't think he is a good coach; the players just enjoyed the reprieve from Butch and had a great year in Monty's 1st year in Boston (even tho Butch is a great coach). But this all leads back to Sweeney creating situations where he has lost all leverage. Bad drafts. Bad trades.
Maybe it’s just as simple that teams view Monty as a good coach…Felger’s jumping on the Sweeney/Neely bs leaks. It will be funny if/when we find out they had a deal agreed to before the season only to be pulled back when Sweeney realized his signing weren’t working…they look the same as they did in the preseason. You don’t try to get out of a coaching gig for the B’s, it’s a top destination for any coach…doesn’t make sense, nice job getting clicks
Give Felger a list of the players on the Bruins' last names and tell him to list their first names. Guarantee he gets 5+ wrong. But he's well-versed enough to say that he "doesn't think Montgomery finds any success, don't think he's much of a coach".... Blow me
Ya sure sportscaster. Think about it, he wanted to get fired only to get fired somewhere else and leave his wife and kids in Boston and he spend the rest of the season working away from his family. Kind of a dumb idea really Mr Sportscaster.
@@JayRoberts244 Your comment proves that you have no clue what you are talking about. Do you know who coached the Bruins that year? Bergeron did. Monty bragged repeatedly, ''Wow I love coaching this team, I don't have to do anything, You guys are so easy to coach. It's so much fun to coach this team because I don't have to do anything!'' Then when his coaching skills were finally needed, he fucked us and did the dumbest shit I've ever seen. Bergeron and Pasta got injured in the last few games of that season, and they should have not even been on the ice in the first place. They clinched a playoff spot faster than any other team in history. The last game against the Canadiens, Bergeron bought a box for his whole family, because he is from that area, and he ended up getting hurt and leaving the game. Bergeron missed game 1, and the Bruins won. Bergeron should have stayed out, but he made Monty let him play. He played like ass, and Boston lost. He then missed the next 2 games of the series, and Boston won them both. The Bruins were 3-1, but Ullmark suffered a serious painful injury that limited his movement. Monty knew that Bergeron should not be in game 5 because he was hurt and would be a hinderance to the team, just as he was in game 2, but he let Bergeron play anyway. Monty also knows Ullmark has no business on the ice, and even though a 100% healthy and raring to go Swayman was ready to play, Monty somehow throws Ullmark in. They lose because both Ullmark because he could barely move from his injury, and on top of that, Bergeron, causes Krejci and Pasta to get hurt because he couldn't do his job. Game 6, instead of pulling Ullmark and Bergeron, who both had serious injuries, Monty let them play. Instead of Krejci and Pasta being kept off the ice to help their injuries heal more, Monty puts ALL FOUR of our injured players on the ice, FOR NO REASON. Ullmark flopping around like a baby seal barely able to skate from the bench to the net, Bergeron constantly out of position, Pasta moving like a ton of bricks is on his back, Monty just stands there and lets them play. What a surprise, Boston loses game 6. Instead of making Bergeron stay off the ice, because we have lost every game that Bergeron was on the ice in that series, Monty puts him out. He FINALLY puts Swayman on, after Sacco and Bob walk into his office the morning before and tell him, ''WHY THE FU(K ARE YOU PUTTING ULLMARK ON THE ROSTER? WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU!?!? HE CAN BARELY MOVE! PUT SWAYMAN ON THE FU(KING ICE!'' Monty finally gets the hint, even though Swayman should have gone out there for P3 of game 4 after Ullmark was injured badly. Instead of putting Swayman out in game 5 or game 6, like any other coach with a brain would have done, he had to be told, in the eleventh hour when it was already too late. He knew that we lost every game that he put Bergeron on the ice in that series, but for games 5,6,7 he puts Bergeron out. It's the coaches job to manage the players, to know when they are hurt or struggling. A hurt player always wants to play, especially in their last season before retirement, but Monty failed miserably in that series. He should have been fired, but Sweeney felt bad and gave him another chance. We beat the Leafs (BARELY), and he was out coached by Maurice again. Monty is a players coach. He is good at coaching an experienced team, but a team full of young players, like Boston, is out of his reach. He's not built for this. That's why he constantly changed the lines, sent players back, brought players up. Every game this year, the lines were different. When a line worked one game, he would mess with it for the next game, for no reason. Bergeron led this team to a President's Trophy. Monty lost us the Stanley Cup
Did Monty have leverage? Yes. Who gave it to him? The same guy who gave Swayman all that leverage. The Blues were not alone. There was another team. Maybe the league realizes the coach is not the problem. The GM is.
Murray has such an overactive imagination. Just shoots from the hip on full auto and then once it’s been spoken (by him) he just acts like it’s reality.
Hilarious but true
You guys are surprised that he got rehired that quickly? Do you guys not do your research? The key is the team who picked him up. Montgomery has played for, minor league coached for, pro assistant coached for the Blues. His wife is from StL and they still have a home in the area. They were the first to give him a chance after his drinking issues. It was reported that he had a good relationship with Blues players as the assistant to Berube. He has a good relationship with management.
Monty was in DAL with Berube for 2 years; 2018-2020. And he was highly endorsed by the same.
@@curiousbrowzaSTL, not DAL
Blues fans give him a lot of credit for 2019 cup run. He fixed our power play, which always struggled until he came.
@@schlafinMonty wasn’t with the Blues during their cup run in 2019, he was the coaching Dallas opposite the Blues that year. But you are correct that when Monty arrived after the Blues cup run he did fix the power play and made it a top power play in the league.
Exactly, these 2 know nothing about hockey!
As a St. Louisan, being the focal point of the NHL for a couple of months is freakin’ awesome
Montgomery did not want E. Lindholm or Zadorov. They didn’t fit his system. But, he had no say in that. If you watch his pre game interview, Monty says “from the owner to the front office knows what they’re doing.” Monty was fired on Tuesday and on Wednesday the Blues GM called and said come back here. Monty did what he could do with the players he had. Even the players said “we aren’t playing to our full potential.” If the front office doesn’t get the coach involved on the players he needs then what’s the sense on even having a coach? Cam & Neely are going to do what THEY think is best without any in out by the coach. Both are next on the hot seat.
Makes perfect sense that a guy that wanted a 5 year deal in Boston wanted out of Boston. It’s complete bs to question this man’s integrity.
I really don’t care what he did. He was badly outcoached by Paul Maurice 2 years in a row. He was fine as a coach. Wish him the best.
and if the Bruins play them again in the playoffs, and that’s a big if, Joe Sacco will also lose. Because Florida is a better team with better players. The only reason Sweeney has a job is because he is using coaching as an excuse. Kinda like you are.
Wrong. Florida is a much more talented team. The Harvard educated genius is the problem. This team is a total rebuild away from truly competing for the Cup. But they will keep being just good enough during the regular season to keep their smug fans buying tickets.
Montgomery was like George Costanza trying to get fired by the Yankees..😂😂
So dramatic by these three bozos. Bruins spent big bucks. Were one of the Stanly Cup favorites. Team starts the season bad. Lot of pressure to win. Monty frustrated as nothing works. Tries to make an example out of Pasta & Marchand to get the team rolling. Nothing worked, so he gets fired. St Louis also has a bad start. GM decides to make a change of coaches & grabs Monty. It's that simple, but these clowns are like 14-year-old girls, giggling & making up stories.
Pretty much lol
they should stream felger and mazz on here.
yup
Are you kidding me? How about Neely and Sweeney are morons. Do we need to bring up a 2015 draft?
I have no idea what this show is....But All of St.Louis is laughing at you. What a clueless take😂😂
There is no doubt that Montgomery was working the St Louis thing behind the scenes.
I mean.. Montgomery said in a Blues media interview that he was surprised when Army offered him the job. He said he thought it was going to be a social "sorry you lost your job" call but I guess he could have lied.
Montgomery is a good man and wish him good luck with the Blues. But I do think he changed the Bruins lines too often. So the players had no chemistry and of course you will lose games. He even did this during the playoffs.
The line juggling alone.
What the hell, does seem like he wanted fired for the Blues.
He did them a favour, at least the bruins aren’t on the hook for a new contract too.
The Bruins in recent years have prided themselves on their culture and I really didn't think it changed that fast. This may sound weird but what's the chance he actually asked to be fired and Sweeney did him a wink-wink favor knowing that St Louis would pick it up? Sweeney and Monty didn't agree hockey-wise obviously. Monty is a go play kinda guy that doesnt seem to be all that system oriented so Sweeny goes out and increased size and took away the speed game. Sweeneys way does work with a coach that sees things that way. They can win a bunch of 3-2, 2-1 games, but Monty doesnt play that way and those conflicting styles butt heads big time.
The Bruins stopped playing for Monty after getting out-coached for the second time against FLA. The first version coached itself; the second (last year) had 65% quality goalie starts. He did not accept the Bruins offer. Why did this saga continue into the first 20 games?
Ridiculous speculation. Nothing better to do on a Monday afternoon?
No not really speculation. Both Ty Anderson and Scott McLaughlin have had more details on this the last couple days.
Boston is old and needs a retool.
St. Louis to win the Cup next?
They wanted Montgomery over Bannister but he was under contract with Boston so they hired Bannister and waited for his contract to be up! Sweeny and Montgomery didn’t get along and Cam Neely didn’t like Monty either!
So it does seem li 8:16 ke the Cassidy exit. Montgomery is a good fit for St Louis having a long history there as player and coach including a Cup win in 2019.
Monty was Dallas’s head coach in 2019 when the Blues won the cup.
I just think it doesn’t matter and quite frankly I don’t really care. The time to fire him was when they had the best roster in the history of the salary cap era and choked to Florida. Now he’s going into the season with significantly worse roster, a weak forward core and the same expectations. His seat was already hot and he knew it. The players putting up egregiously and honestly inexplicably bad results through the first 20 games just expedited the process. He was going to be the first domino to fall this year if results didn’t come, and it doesn’t matter if he signed an extension. The players gave up so he did too. If there was tampering, that’s unacceptable but again doesn’t really matter and it’s just as likely the blues just scooped him up the second he was canned. Who knows maybe there were a few conversations in passing and it was in the back of his mind anyway, I just think it was time to move on and it just doesn’t matter now. It’s easy to look back at this whole thing and be like “see! Monty wasn’t motivated so that’s why the players sucked!”. I just think we’re underestimating the pressure from 2023 and how he knew if the team didn’t get to the playoffs and put a better results than years prior, he was gone this summer anyway.
You say choked but don't forget you lost to the eventual Champions (follwoing year but still). Panthers were a good team.Nothing is guaranteed in the playoffs especailly for the President Trophy winner.
Every opponent in the playoffs last year outskated the Bruins. What’s the problem?………
What?
I don't know what's crazier.... The fact that they actually let these three clowns talk about hockey, or the fact that anyone takes Ty Anderson seriously as a source
What is this? Three stooges podcast?
St. Louis did us a favor... That 1st. round exit in '23 will haunt this team for a long time coming. That failure was all on Monty and his coaching staff. If Swayman didn't stand on his head a year ago, Toronto would of advanced to the 2nd. round... See ya...
100% had this in his back pocket the whole time. Don't think he is a good coach; the players just enjoyed the reprieve from Butch and had a great year in Monty's 1st year in Boston (even tho Butch is a great coach). But this all leads back to Sweeney creating situations where he has lost all leverage. Bad drafts. Bad trades.
Monty knew the Blues wanted him. Evidently Sweeney didn’t offer a better extension so Montgomery just waits to get canned.
He wanted 5 years bruins said no.he gave up as a coach along the players playing for him
Maybe it’s just as simple that teams view Monty as a good coach…Felger’s jumping on the Sweeney/Neely bs leaks. It will be funny if/when we find out they had a deal agreed to before the season only to be pulled back when Sweeney realized his signing weren’t working…they look the same as they did in the preseason. You don’t try to get out of a coaching gig for the B’s, it’s a top destination for any coach…doesn’t make sense, nice job getting clicks
I think he needed to go. it matters what you do in the playoffs, and he failed to get it done when it mattered the most.
Best of luck Jim
a team this successful for this long, you'd think more players/coaches would want to be in Boston. something stinks
Give Felger a list of the players on the Bruins' last names and tell him to list their first names. Guarantee he gets 5+ wrong. But he's well-versed enough to say that he "doesn't think Montgomery finds any success, don't think he's much of a coach".... Blow me
you guys just played 2 of the worst teams it’s not that crazy
Ya sure sportscaster. Think about it, he wanted to get fired only to get fired somewhere else and leave his wife and kids in Boston and he spend the rest of the season working away from his family. Kind of a dumb idea really Mr Sportscaster.
What is this s bot?
Felger doesn't know hockey!!
Fact! Montgomery sucked! The way he coached in the playoffs had me wanting him out at the end of the last two years. Good riddance! 💪😁
The players sucked.
Yep, lead his team to the Presidents Trophy, dude was horrible.
Time will tell. And it won't take too long. I'll be following him in St Louis too.
@@JayRoberts244 Your comment proves that you have no clue what you are talking about. Do you know who coached the Bruins that year? Bergeron did. Monty bragged repeatedly, ''Wow I love coaching this team, I don't have to do anything, You guys are so easy to coach. It's so much fun to coach this team because I don't have to do anything!'' Then when his coaching skills were finally needed, he fucked us and did the dumbest shit I've ever seen. Bergeron and Pasta got injured in the last few games of that season, and they should have not even been on the ice in the first place. They clinched a playoff spot faster than any other team in history. The last game against the Canadiens, Bergeron bought a box for his whole family, because he is from that area, and he ended up getting hurt and leaving the game.
Bergeron missed game 1, and the Bruins won. Bergeron should have stayed out, but he made Monty let him play. He played like ass, and Boston lost.
He then missed the next 2 games of the series, and Boston won them both. The Bruins were 3-1, but Ullmark suffered a serious painful injury that limited his movement. Monty knew that Bergeron should not be in game 5 because he was hurt and would be a hinderance to the team, just as he was in game 2, but he let Bergeron play anyway. Monty also knows Ullmark has no business on the ice, and even though a 100% healthy and raring to go Swayman was ready to play, Monty somehow throws Ullmark in. They lose because both Ullmark because he could barely move from his injury, and on top of that, Bergeron, causes Krejci and Pasta to get hurt because he couldn't do his job. Game 6, instead of pulling Ullmark and Bergeron, who both had serious injuries, Monty let them play. Instead of Krejci and Pasta being kept off the ice to help their injuries heal more, Monty puts ALL FOUR of our injured players on the ice, FOR NO REASON. Ullmark flopping around like a baby seal barely able to skate from the bench to the net, Bergeron constantly out of position, Pasta moving like a ton of bricks is on his back, Monty just stands there and lets them play. What a surprise, Boston loses game 6. Instead of making Bergeron stay off the ice, because we have lost every game that Bergeron was on the ice in that series, Monty puts him out. He FINALLY puts Swayman on, after Sacco and Bob walk into his office the morning before and tell him, ''WHY THE FU(K ARE YOU PUTTING ULLMARK ON THE ROSTER? WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH YOU!?!? HE CAN BARELY MOVE! PUT SWAYMAN ON THE FU(KING ICE!''
Monty finally gets the hint, even though Swayman should have gone out there for P3 of game 4 after Ullmark was injured badly. Instead of putting Swayman out in game 5 or game 6, like any other coach with a brain would have done, he had to be told, in the eleventh hour when it was already too late. He knew that we lost every game that he put Bergeron on the ice in that series, but for games 5,6,7 he puts Bergeron out.
It's the coaches job to manage the players, to know when they are hurt or struggling. A hurt player always wants to play, especially in their last season before retirement, but Monty failed miserably in that series. He should have been fired, but Sweeney felt bad and gave him another chance. We beat the Leafs (BARELY), and he was out coached by Maurice again.
Monty is a players coach. He is good at coaching an experienced team, but a team full of young players, like Boston, is out of his reach. He's not built for this. That's why he constantly changed the lines, sent players back, brought players up. Every game this year, the lines were different. When a line worked one game, he would mess with it for the next game, for no reason.
Bergeron led this team to a President's Trophy. Monty lost us the Stanley Cup
@@JayRoberts244 He lead the team? I disagree with OP too but let's chill a lil bit bro 😂
lousy coach.....................
FFS Boston. Thanks for the coach. 🫡