I have been saying this for the last few years, they are as soft as butter ! The safest place for an opposing player to be is in front of the Pens net ! No-body listened to me !
@@Bloodflowers29not a pens fan, but this isn’t Dubas. He inherited a crappy cap with crappy players. They need to trade who then can to get future assets.
@@BernieKorch Trading for Erik Karlsson was a huge mistake, and reflects Dubas' poor team building philosophy. Penguins did not need a high scoring, weak defensive defenseman. That cap space could have gone to Jake Guentzel instead, and also to PO Joseph and a couple more young guys, plus Jarry's abysmal 5 million could have brought in more young guys. This same team made an incredible run at the end of last year and almost made the playoffs, so there is something there and a new coach could bring it out.
@@BernieKorch This is mostly his team. You could have maybe said that last year but this roster has turned over. The core isn't the problem and that's what he inherited.
As a fan,I generally have this feeling that they will never win again this season,nor will they ever score more than 2-3 goals a game. I haven't felt like this since the mid 2000's. But even as bad as those teams were they still had heart. I can't say the same with this team.
Those teams also had a clear, reasonable direction. They were building towards something. This is a half-ass attempt at being competitive and rebuilding. Impossible to do both successfully simultaneously.
Continue the tank, play geno and sid on a line, getting sid a point per game is all that matters, sell whoever tf you can. Get a top 5 pick hopefully. Hope our top prospects make the team next year and be a big player in fa, quick retool
Dude, you have a core that is 35+. They gas out in the 3rd period every single game. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out, they are too old. They should trade Rust too, while his value is high, and get more youth in there.
@ so, what i said when dubas arrived is fine trade a first round pick away for ek because you are putting him a team with an old core!!!!!!! dubas was wrong
This is just where we’re at. I find no fault with Dubas or Sullivan. This team is a car with 200,000 miles. If you fix one thing then another thing breaks down. Ride it out this year. Let’s get a top 5 pick and analyze each player in the off season. Do not spend a single future asset in order to get a worse draft slot. Play youth with the vets that won’t give up. Let the vets who give up watch from upstairs.
@ Absolutely none. Sometimes the path forward starts by taking a step back. That’s where we’re at. Quite frankly I’m disappointed with the fans mentality. This team has completely mortgaged the future and now all the credit cards are due and even one is acting surprised. We all need to realize this was inevitable. Don’t you think it’s time we get a top pick that moves in with Sid? It worked out pretty well the last time a top draft pick moved in with a legend.
@@Bloodflowers29 Make no mistake, this started with Rutherford mortgaging the future for the present. All those 1st rnd draft picks given away is now coming to haunt the Pens. The prospect cupboard is bare save one or two players while other systems are loaded. Blaming Hextall/Dubas is like blaming the 2nd/3rd car owner for the lousy upkeep by the first.
So Dubas bringing in Erik Karlsson, which made resigning Jake Guentzel impossible, was a good idea? In what world did the Pens need a bad defenseman who puts up points?
What happened to the pride? I see no pride. I don't blame the goalies or even the coach. The goalies have no derense in front of them. If theirs a problem with Sullivan, the players shouldn't use that as an excuse to suck. I don't watch many games, just highlights. I haven't lived in Pittsburgh since'98, and I've watched them since 1988 and never saw them this bad
Totally disagree . They aren’t being beat by inferior teams. They are the inferior team and if you don’t see that , you’re blind or too stubborn to realize this team stinks. And Ned is a journeyman goalie who is a backup. Who is listening to him. He’s been horrible this year.
FSG needs to wake up, it's an organizational problem, from ownership down. There's a lot of stiffs on this team, collecting paychecks, who are on their 3rd, 4th, 5th teams. No desire, not willing to defend, horrible in front of their net, they just stand there watching. Couldn't agree more Dan, major changes are needed. Sid starts a fight to try and get the stiffs to play, no response. Sid shouldn't be breathed on, but again, nothing.
@@petterikaristo9528 Yeah that’s a tough call. I know for a fact that Sullivan feels he’d lose those players and it’s an impossible choice. Deliver real punishment or make the situation worse. No win. Take it for what you will
@Pittsburghhockeynow Right, that makes sense (and was well explained). I guess it's normal that some players in every team are unbenchable etc. Need to get them onboard with other methods.
Dubas sucks and Sullivan sucks. Dubas really really sucks. Sullivan really really sucks. DAN doesn't suck, thanks for the show Dan. FSG SUCKS. The ownership group knows nothing about hockey or coaching. Another team hiring Sully nullifies the contract. Boston?
Mario Lemieux and former CEO wonk David Morehouse deserve the brunt of blame for this debacle. Any management team that would hire a mortal enemy of the franchise to be its GM needs a brain scan. That would be inexperienced do-nothing Ron Hextall, of course.
@@Jim-pq9pm Didn't say Hextall ruined the franchise purposely. He did it naturally, which made it that much worse. The loser wasn't qualified for the job.
Firw Dubas,he set the Maple franchise back,now he is on the verge of putting the Penguin franchise so deep in a hole,it will probably take a decade to crawl out of it! This team should have been blown up after the 2019 -2020 season.When Murray Malkin and LeTang trades among a few others,could have had this team rolling again by now!!
I wonder if FSG has the balls to admit they were wrong and fire Sully. I know he’s not really the main problem but they jumped the gun thinking this team had another run. Fools
No one is saying Sullivan isnt a good coach. Every coach has a shelf life. Jim Montgomery was just let go 2 years after the bruins won the presidents cup. I dont feel bad for FSG. They didnt know about hockey and signed a big check for a fellow Boston guy after going around their GM and Prez of Hockey Ops to negotiate with him directly. If they are going to be bad, at least bring up the kids to get some experience. They will be fun to watch. Some of the NHL guys look like they are somewhere between bored and bothered. Waive them. The kids will bring an energy and excitement to the locker room.
EK Trade was Dumping bad contracts for EK which on paper was good. But obviously turned to trash so far. This team has to many passengers. Not enough scorers. And we’re screwed when Matt Grezlyc is on the top pairing
and signed numerous retreads nobody wanted to fill the roster (after the incredible run this team went on to nearly make the playoffs)...he's been a disaster at GM
Nothing has to give whatsoever. This is a rebuilding team. The harder the fall the better the picks they will get in 2025. That's where we are at. Keep calling for something to change, nothing will...They simply CAN continue on the path they are on
The fire sale needs to start. They need to get younger, will miss the playoffs for the third year in a row. Coach needs fired. Dubas need fired. Start over. It can't get any worse with new people.
How do you move players with a no move clause? People just don’t understand Dubas has his hands tied. He moved people he could and brought in what he could. The analytics of the players were great, the problem is the hockey IQ was not what the analytics said.
@@humanbeingmaybe2890 Because analytics is a stupid way to build a team. That's not how hockey works. Hockey is based on chemistry, and mentality, and balance, specifically age balance in this case.
@ Moving players with no move clauses can be done, yes they have to agree, I am sure any incentives would be costly. Agree that Dubas is in a tough spot, partly that he created. I don’t know why you trade for Karlsson and keep Letang. But all I do is comment UA-cam, so I wasn’t in the decision process! 😂. Not a bright immediate future.
I think that Mike Sullivan is still a good coach but unfortunately not for this team. The players no longer seem to respond to his message and I think it's time for a change. I also believe however that Kyle Dubas bears some responsibilities for this mess. He is directly responsible for bringing in half of the current top six defencemen, two of which have debilitating contracts. I know he is limited in what he can do because of so many no movement contracts, but the players he has added so far have not worked out. More importantly however, I have very little confidence that he could handle a successful rebuild when the time comes.
So if the TEAM is bad. Then its not the coach if he has changed lines with what he has, changed plans, etc, etc.. at some point the team is what it is, and its all on the GM to get better players for the coach to utilize. So .... fire the GM?
As a leaf fan, i watched him build the same dysfunction, our dysfunction masked by 3 prime stars, he won’t fix anything. We played games with 6 LH dmen. Dubas roster construction is beyond awful. You guys are screwed.
@@jfkst1it is what dubas decided and put out there. jarry 5.5 ek 10 mill griz. wtf? jake gone eller gone beauvillier on the TOP LINE? what a joke dubas is
With a history of bad GM's making absolutely horrible contracts, prolonging the wrong guys........and running with a coach this long, roll that up in a ball and thats what you get. I saw one of the best players of all time score his 600th goal...........and the team gave up after that. A great moment for the franchise! Now, do what is great for 87 and get him off this titanic, his career is too valuable to finish with this team. This year is just the icing on the cake, I actually laugh now when other scrub teams beat up on them, all my passion and fire as a fan was robbed from me over the prior 3 seasons. Sullivan never made certain guys accountable, he allowed their bad habits and he wonders why they can't lead or play the right way! Get Sid out of Pittsburgh!
Resigning Letang was a big mistake. He's good, but he's too old, and not worth 6 million, and not resigning Crosby and Malkin was never a viable option. The whole "big 3" thing was stupid, because the big 3 was broken up when Fleury left. Karlsson was a massive mistake, way too much money for a bad defenseman that puts up points. Pens did not need him and it made resigning Jake Guentzel impossible. Picking up older guys like Rakell and trading younger guys like Teddy Blueger was crushing.
FSG seems to have failed by believing the Dubas word salad. You see this sort of thing all the time in corporate America and politics. He was just a bad hire based on his expertise and results to date. His reformation of the Pens has been in a word..horrible. And now we have Dubas on top of Hextall, and this is what you get...a long road home.
Hockey is physical, old guys lose stamina. Hockey is also mental more than anything, a coaching change could have a strong psychological effect. Trade Rust, his value is still high, get some youthful energy. Probably too little too late. Dubas is an idiot for not realizing this. If he did, he would have kept PO Joseph, only 1.5 mil a year for a 24 year old defenseman who's pretty good.
It seems like there is panic on the field and the game is very fragile. Players are not in their positions properly, especially defense. The goalie's game is up and down, there is no stability. The team is somehow restless. Wise men say that a " fish rots from the head"
How could they possibly have any confidence in the coach. He continues to run out the same tired strategies. Plays the same goaltender over and over until exhaustion. They've missed the playoffs two years in a row. The season they did miss the playoffs - again, goaltenders both injured - one was overplayed and the other not enough. The previous season they missed the playoffs, Jerry admitted to be injured, and yet Sullivan shunted him out again. "I don't want to sit on the bench" is not a proper response to "Why are you playing if injured?". They were eliminated by a horrible Chicago team in a listless effort that season. If that wasn't enough to turf Sullivan, the proceeding seasons certainly have much evidence to do so. Go hire Bruce Boudreau, he might not get playoff results, but at least he's more apt to get them to the playoffs. Something that Sullivan certainly cannot do.
this is what eventually happens to every successful NHL team. it's time for a rebuild which may take 7 years or 9.. this is just the price you pay for 16 years of playoffs and 3 cups with the same core. nothing to be sad about, unless you are an absolute gloryhunter.
Then fan base running a team is a joke. They would lose the room in thirty seconds. Calling these high profile players out would be the biggest mistake. There is not a coach out there that can turn this turd around or a GM for that matter. Until these contracts expire this is what you will get. Suck it up be a fan show support for the team or go find another team to watch.
Years now the penguins have the softest team in the league that play a european perimeter game. Zero toughness, grinders and no players with heart. This franchise is in major trouble and FSG does nothing but hire a young GM. He did nothing in toronto and is doing worse in pittsburgh. Let me know when these "Analytics" he is suppose to have start happening because of right now..They suck.. I'd rather watch the pirates play..
@@TheBillaro Can't argue with that...The penguins were a win now team and dubas did nothing to improve anywhere with what he had?? Karllson was a waste..Bunting? I don't want to bore anyone no more. The penguins suck, FSG sucks and Dubas sucks. As a penguins fan along with dubas this will get worse than better. Alot of leaf fans warned us about dufas and alot of pittsburgh people blew this off and seemed not to take this seriously?? Thank you leaf fans for the warning though. Hextal did better than this..I just say that? PS: Penguins suck (just in case you didn't hear me) SUCK ???
I HAVE BEEN SAYING HIRING DUBAS IS THE WORST THING THAT THIS FRANCHISE HAS DONE. Dubas is just plain dumb, he uses fancy vocabulary and wears glasses to try and present himself as a intellectual and very highly intelligent man. In reality , the cashier at burger king could do a better job than dubas. I mean Dubas has already backtracked and reversed course on decisions he has made. What we are seeing from Dubas IS A ACT. He tries very hard for many years now to polish his image as super intelligent BUT ITS A ACT I CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH IT.
The biggest mistake Pittsburgh made was hiring dufus, lifetime leafs fan and seeing what he did with toronto in his years here and now seeing what treliving has done with toronto after a season is huge. Massive difference from running an ohl and ahl teams compared to the NHL.
Dumbas is the very worst out there and that’s why the Pittsburgh owners hired him! I think it’s something like the ownership in the movie Major League! I know that is about a fictional team but hell this is real!!!
Firing Sullivan is rearranging the deck chairs. It would be a mercy for him. Maybe that firing (for who?) will help the fan base move on and accept the new era of being a lottery eligible team. Sullivan will be a contending coach again once he joins a team that has better and deeper talent. Dubas’ Penguins stink. And shouldn’t the Captain be ‘popping off’ on that performance, rather than let Ned do it? McKinnon would, and did. Not sure Crosby cares to lead anymore. He has his nest egg. Why win?
Was a great run. The car is out of gas.
Fascinating how the fortunes of the Pens & Caps have gone in opposite directions.
Love the channel and the work you and your crew put in.
The defense has to change. Sullivan's style doesn't work with these defenesmen.
They gotta find the Hanson brothers....
I have been saying this for the last few years, they are as soft as butter ! The safest place for an opposing player to be is in front of the Pens net ! No-body listened to me !
Time to listen to Michel Therrien's rant again. His defensive squad was "Sof" like this one.
Love to see what a new coach does with a Roster managed THIS poorly. Dubas is just brutal. Worse than Hextall and that’s truth.
They need a new GM. Dubas put this poorly constructed team together.
Older core. Not much in the pipeline. A HC change could be a temporary spark.
@@Bloodflowers29not a pens fan, but this isn’t Dubas. He inherited a crappy cap with crappy players. They need to trade who then can to get future assets.
@@BernieKorch Trading for Erik Karlsson was a huge mistake, and reflects Dubas' poor team building philosophy. Penguins did not need a high scoring, weak defensive defenseman. That cap space could have gone to Jake Guentzel instead, and also to PO Joseph and a couple more young guys, plus Jarry's abysmal 5 million could have brought in more young guys. This same team made an incredible run at the end of last year and almost made the playoffs, so there is something there and a new coach could bring it out.
@@BernieKorch This is mostly his team. You could have maybe said that last year but this roster has turned over. The core isn't the problem and that's what he inherited.
👍 to negate the thumbs down you keep getting Dan
Truly appreciate the insight.
Fugly season.
Been a fan for 40 years.
✌❤🤘
“Lowly” Utah lol. They are about a .500 team with some major pieces injured. The Pens are now “lowly”
You're not wrong.
look at all the empty seats at home games , the fans are speaking with their dollars , something needs to be done !
As a fan,I generally have this feeling that they will never win again this season,nor will they ever score more than 2-3 goals a game. I haven't felt like this since the mid 2000's. But even as bad as those teams were they still had heart. I can't say the same with this team.
Those teams also had a clear, reasonable direction. They were building towards something.
This is a half-ass attempt at being competitive and rebuilding. Impossible to do both successfully simultaneously.
Build the defence.
give any coach that defence and they will fail.
Continue the tank, play geno and sid on a line, getting sid a point per game is all that matters, sell whoever tf you can. Get a top 5 pick hopefully. Hope our top prospects make the team next year and be a big player in fa, quick retool
exactly....get Geno back on line 1...should have Rusty on that line too...Raks vanishes too often
trading eller was so stupid. a third is nothing sans he was a solid veteran.
play the kids? the kids aren't at eller's level.
100 %
Dude, you have a core that is 35+. They gas out in the 3rd period every single game. It doesn't take a genius to figure it out, they are too old. They should trade Rust too, while his value is high, and get more youth in there.
I'd love Rust on the Oilers
@ so, what i said when dubas arrived is fine trade a first round pick away for ek because you are putting him a team with an old core!!!!!!! dubas was wrong
Is ownership maybe instructing Dubas to do a sort of deniable tank job?
I'm glad somebody finally ripped into the team it needs to come from Crosby
Thanks Dan!
This is just where we’re at. I find no fault with Dubas or Sullivan. This team is a car with 200,000 miles. If you fix one thing then another thing breaks down. Ride it out this year. Let’s get a top 5 pick and analyze each player in the off season. Do not spend a single future asset in order to get a worse draft slot. Play youth with the vets that won’t give up. Let the vets who give up watch from upstairs.
Dubas constructed this dumpster fire. You find no fault?
@ Absolutely none. Sometimes the path forward starts by taking a step back. That’s where we’re at. Quite frankly I’m disappointed with the fans mentality. This team has completely mortgaged the future and now all the credit cards are due and even one is acting surprised. We all need to realize this was inevitable. Don’t you think it’s time we get a top pick that moves in with Sid? It worked out pretty well the last time a top draft pick moved in with a legend.
@@Bloodflowers29 Make no mistake, this started with Rutherford mortgaging the future for the present. All those 1st rnd draft picks given away is now coming to haunt the Pens. The prospect cupboard is bare save one or two players while other systems are loaded. Blaming Hextall/Dubas is like blaming the 2nd/3rd car owner for the lousy upkeep by the first.
So Dubas bringing in Erik Karlsson, which made resigning Jake Guentzel impossible, was a good idea? In what world did the Pens need a bad defenseman who puts up points?
@@silntstl I didn't say anything to the contrary. But this is still Dubas' team.
What happened to the pride? I see no pride.
I don't blame the goalies or even the coach.
The goalies have no derense in front of them.
If theirs a problem with Sullivan, the players shouldn't use that as an excuse to suck.
I don't watch many games, just highlights.
I haven't lived in Pittsburgh since'98, and I've watched them since 1988 and never saw them this bad
Dubas brought gay pride!
Totally disagree . They aren’t being beat by inferior teams. They are the inferior team and if you don’t see that , you’re blind or too stubborn to realize this team stinks. And Ned is a journeyman goalie who is a backup. Who is listening to him. He’s been horrible this year.
Incredibly bad decision-making. Letting Guentzel leave was a disastrous move. But great for Jake.
agree 100%
I feel brother, From Boston
FSG needs to wake up, it's an organizational problem, from ownership down. There's a lot of stiffs on this team, collecting paychecks, who are on their 3rd, 4th, 5th teams. No desire, not willing to defend, horrible in front of their net, they just stand there watching. Couldn't agree more Dan, major changes are needed. Sid starts a fight to try and get the stiffs to play, no response. Sid shouldn't be breathed on, but again, nothing.
I would argue against your claim that he has pulled all the levers. Several players have been under special protection from accountability.
@@petterikaristo9528 Yeah that’s a tough call. I know for a fact that Sullivan feels he’d lose those players and it’s an impossible choice. Deliver real punishment or make the situation worse. No win. Take it for what you will
@Pittsburghhockeynow Right, that makes sense (and was well explained). I guess it's normal that some players in every team are unbenchable etc. Need to get them onboard with other methods.
@@PittsburghhockeynowAgree with that, but can it get any worse? Lets rip the bandaid off. Sit Karllsons ass.
Dubas sucks and Sullivan sucks. Dubas really really sucks. Sullivan really really sucks.
DAN doesn't suck, thanks for the show Dan.
FSG SUCKS. The ownership group knows nothing about hockey or coaching. Another team hiring Sully nullifies the contract. Boston?
So many sucks 👍
That reply made me laugh
Yeah, there's no way they're pulling the trigger on Sullivan his new contract has just started, and he's a Boston native..
Mario Lemieux and former CEO wonk David Morehouse deserve the brunt of blame for this debacle. Any management team that would hire a mortal enemy of the franchise to be its GM needs a brain scan. That would be inexperienced do-nothing Ron Hextall, of course.
Don't be silly. Hextall just has a bad team building philosophy. He didn't purposely sabotage the team.
hextall left a lot of carnage in his wake ! but hey his buddy carter made a few millions he wouldnt have made otherwise
@@Jim-pq9pm Didn't say Hextall ruined the franchise purposely. He did it naturally, which made it that much worse. The loser wasn't qualified for the job.
@@Michael-hq1iq Yep.
@@RayManzarekRocks "mortal enemy to the franchise" implies to me that you thought it was intentional
Crosby is awesome and an all time great but is he a leader…a vocal, get guys to play hard leader? Idk.
They need to stay the course and get top picks through a rebuild. Years of this are left.
Firw Dubas,he set the Maple franchise back,now he is on the verge of putting the Penguin franchise so deep in a hole,it will probably take a decade to crawl out of it! This team should have been blown up after the 2019 -2020 season.When Murray Malkin and LeTang trades among a few others,could have had this team rolling again by now!!
Yes I agree... Dubeass will forever be an anchor while he is with the Pens...good luck !
I wonder if FSG has the balls to admit they were wrong and fire Sully. I know he’s not really the main problem but they jumped the gun thinking this team had another run. Fools
Poor Cindy 😔
Time waits for no man.
No one is saying Sullivan isnt a good coach. Every coach has a shelf life. Jim Montgomery was just let go 2 years after the bruins won the presidents cup. I dont feel bad for FSG. They didnt know about hockey and signed a big check for a fellow Boston guy after going around their GM and Prez of Hockey Ops to negotiate with him directly. If they are going to be bad, at least bring up the kids to get some experience. They will be fun to watch. Some of the NHL guys look like they are somewhere between bored and bothered. Waive them. The kids will bring an energy and excitement to the locker room.
Half of the 31 other teams are waiting for Sullivan to get fired so they can grab him up. :)
Get assets by unloading high priced aging stars. Open up cap space and get fresh young legs.
Dubas is the problem there. He traded for EK65 and then traded Guentzel.
Exactly, with that cap space they could have resigned Guentzel and probably got a couple young guys
I agree... Dubeass will be your anchor for as long as he is there...good luck to you and your team.
Do your homework. The Karlsson trade was as much about dumping bad contracts as EK65 himself.
EK Trade was Dumping bad contracts for EK which on paper was good. But obviously turned to trash so far. This team has to many passengers. Not enough scorers. And we’re screwed when Matt Grezlyc is on the top pairing
and signed numerous retreads nobody wanted to fill the roster (after the incredible run this team went on to nearly make the playoffs)...he's been a disaster at GM
Nothing has to give whatsoever. This is a rebuilding team. The harder the fall the better the picks they will get in 2025. That's where we are at. Keep calling for something to change, nothing will...They simply CAN continue on the path they are on
Take the saddle off the dead horse!
The fire sale needs to start. They need to get younger, will miss the playoffs for the third year in a row. Coach needs fired. Dubas need fired. Start over. It can't get any worse with new people.
Time to embrace the pain. Pain of losing games or the pain the cost to move players.
How do you move players with a no move clause? People just don’t understand Dubas has his hands tied. He moved people he could and brought in what he could. The analytics of the players were great, the problem is the hockey IQ was not what the analytics said.
@@humanbeingmaybe2890 Because analytics is a stupid way to build a team. That's not how hockey works. Hockey is based on chemistry, and mentality, and balance, specifically age balance in this case.
@ Moving players with no move clauses can be done, yes they have to agree, I am sure any incentives would be costly. Agree that Dubas is in a tough spot, partly that he created. I don’t know why you trade for Karlsson and keep Letang. But all I do is comment UA-cam, so I wasn’t in the decision process! 😂. Not a bright immediate future.
Fire Sullivan and Bring in Jim Montgomery…another Boston connection.
It's a shame 87 is being pulled down when we all know he still has it.
And Malkin too. They're not quite what they used to be, but both of them on this terrible team are right around a ppg
I'm seeing a lot of bad plays by veteran players that you wouldn't expect ! pens need to go back to basics and that is on Sullivan !
Crosby isn't getting any younger.
I think that Mike Sullivan is still a good coach but unfortunately not for this team. The players no longer seem to respond to his message and I think it's time for a change. I also believe however that Kyle Dubas bears some responsibilities for this mess. He is directly responsible for bringing in half of the current top six defencemen, two of which have debilitating contracts. I know he is limited in what he can do because of so many no movement contracts, but the players he has added so far have not worked out. More importantly however, I have very little confidence that he could handle a successful rebuild when the time comes.
So if the TEAM is bad. Then its not the coach if he has changed lines with what he has, changed plans, etc, etc.. at some point the team is what it is, and its all on the GM to get better players for the coach to utilize. So .... fire the GM?
As a leaf fan, i watched him build the same dysfunction, our dysfunction masked by 3 prime stars, he won’t fix anything. We played games with 6 LH dmen. Dubas roster construction is beyond awful. You guys are screwed.
Yeah it's Dubas' fault. No idea why a 37 year old core four with no young players can't compete...
as a leaf fan i concur and i can fill that out with six years of bad moves dubas made. ONLY the core kept that team afloat.
@@jfkst1it is what dubas decided and put out there.
jarry 5.5
ek 10 mill
griz. wtf?
jake gone
eller gone
beauvillier on the TOP LINE?
what a joke dubas is
Sullivan never benches slackers or discipline any players . He can’t stop the blown leads and improve the putrid P/P . Time to go
Fire Suckllivan already ....
With a history of bad GM's making absolutely horrible contracts, prolonging the wrong guys........and running with a coach this long, roll that up in a ball and thats what you get. I saw one of the best players of all time score his 600th goal...........and the team gave up after that. A great moment for the franchise! Now, do what is great for 87 and get him off this titanic, his career is too valuable to finish with this team. This year is just the icing on the cake, I actually laugh now when other scrub teams beat up on them, all my passion and fire as a fan was robbed from me over the prior 3 seasons. Sullivan never made certain guys accountable, he allowed their bad habits and he wonders why they can't lead or play the right way! Get Sid out of Pittsburgh!
Resigning Letang was a big mistake. He's good, but he's too old, and not worth 6 million, and not resigning Crosby and Malkin was never a viable option. The whole "big 3" thing was stupid, because the big 3 was broken up when Fleury left. Karlsson was a massive mistake, way too much money for a bad defenseman that puts up points. Pens did not need him and it made resigning Jake Guentzel impossible. Picking up older guys like Rakell and trading younger guys like Teddy Blueger was crushing.
FSG seems to have failed by believing the Dubas word salad. You see this sort of thing all the time in corporate America and politics. He was just a bad hire based on his expertise and results to date. His reformation of the Pens has been in a word..horrible. And now we have Dubas on top of Hextall, and this is what you get...a long road home.
Wow you're gonna have a shit fit when Pettersson is traded...
Hockey is physical, old guys lose stamina. Hockey is also mental more than anything, a coaching change could have a strong psychological effect. Trade Rust, his value is still high, get some youthful energy. Probably too little too late. Dubas is an idiot for not realizing this. If he did, he would have kept PO Joseph, only 1.5 mil a year for a 24 year old defenseman who's pretty good.
It seems like there is panic on the field and the game is very fragile.
Players are not in their positions properly, especially defense.
The goalie's game is up and down, there is no stability.
The team is somehow restless.
Wise men say that a " fish rots from the head"
How could they possibly have any confidence in the coach. He continues to run out the same tired strategies. Plays the same goaltender over and over until exhaustion. They've missed the playoffs two years in a row. The season they did miss the playoffs - again, goaltenders both injured - one was overplayed and the other not enough. The previous season they missed the playoffs, Jerry admitted to be injured, and yet Sullivan shunted him out again. "I don't want to sit on the bench" is not a proper response to "Why are you playing if injured?". They were eliminated by a horrible Chicago team in a listless effort that season. If that wasn't enough to turf Sullivan, the proceeding seasons certainly have much evidence to do so. Go hire Bruce Boudreau, he might not get playoff results, but at least he's more apt to get them to the playoffs. Something that Sullivan certainly cannot do.
But its Pittsburgh we just ignore the embarassment and pretend 'Penguins Rule' and then say something insipid like 'fark yeah'
The defence is the worse in the league . I can't watch anymore !
this is what eventually happens to every successful NHL team. it's time for a rebuild which may take 7 years or 9.. this is just the price you pay for 16 years of playoffs and 3 cups with the same core. nothing to be sad about, unless you are an absolute gloryhunter.
Hey Pens fans, how would you feel if Sid ended up in Boston somehow?
Lateral move at best. Boston is struggling almost as much. Doubt Boston has much in the pipeline to even acquire Crosby.
Then fan base running a team is a joke. They would lose the room in thirty seconds. Calling these high profile players out would be the biggest mistake. There is not a coach out there that can turn this turd around or a GM for that matter. Until these contracts expire this is what you will get. Suck it up be a fan show support for the team or go find another team to watch.
Just don't think Sullivan is the problem. He's not been perfect but to me this is down first to the players then Dubas.
The same comments you make about how the team has no heart etc is what it was like watching the leafs under dubas
Penguins are not a good team. It’s rebuilding time. Deal with it
This is such a terrible roster though. A new coach won't do anything.
I’d love to have Dubas sit there next to Sullivan and face some tough questions from reporters.
Years now the penguins have the softest team in the league that play a european perimeter game. Zero toughness, grinders and no players with heart. This franchise is in major trouble and FSG does nothing but hire a young GM. He did nothing in toronto and is doing worse in pittsburgh. Let me know when these "Analytics" he is suppose to have start happening because of right now..They suck.. I'd rather watch the pirates play..
i'm a leafs fan who said this from 2018 when they hired him. he doesn't understand what makes a winner then and still doesn't.
@@TheBillaro Can't argue with that...The penguins were a win now team and dubas did nothing to improve anywhere with what he had?? Karllson was a waste..Bunting? I don't want to bore anyone no more. The penguins suck, FSG sucks and Dubas sucks. As a penguins fan along with dubas this will get worse than better.
Alot of leaf fans warned us about dufas and alot of pittsburgh people blew this off and seemed not to take this seriously?? Thank you leaf fans for the warning though. Hextal did better than this..I just say that?
PS: Penguins suck (just in case you didn't hear me) SUCK ???
I HAVE BEEN SAYING HIRING DUBAS IS THE WORST THING THAT THIS FRANCHISE HAS DONE. Dubas is just plain dumb, he uses fancy vocabulary and wears glasses to try and present himself as a intellectual and very highly intelligent man. In reality , the cashier at burger king could do a better job than dubas. I mean Dubas has already backtracked and reversed course on decisions he has made. What we are seeing from Dubas IS A ACT. He tries very hard for many years now to polish his image as super intelligent BUT ITS A ACT I CAN SEE RIGHT THROUGH IT.
Core is aging out, no good young talent around them and this team is cooked.
No more playoffs for Crosby unless he asks to be traded.
Team is 🗑️
The biggest mistake Pittsburgh made was hiring dufus, lifetime leafs fan and seeing what he did with toronto in his years here and now seeing what treliving has done with toronto after a season is huge.
Massive difference from running an ohl and ahl teams compared to the NHL.
Dumbas is the very worst out there and that’s why the Pittsburgh owners hired him! I think it’s something like the ownership in the movie Major League! I know that is about a fictional team but hell this is real!!!
Two points from the bottom of the NHL 🗑️🗑️🗑️
Your 5 minute report is 9 minutes long, just saying.
Firing Sullivan is rearranging the deck chairs. It would be a mercy for him. Maybe that firing (for who?) will help the fan base move on and accept the new era of being a lottery eligible team. Sullivan will be a contending coach again once he joins a team that has better and deeper talent. Dubas’ Penguins stink. And shouldn’t the Captain be ‘popping off’ on that performance, rather than let Ned do it? McKinnon would, and did. Not sure Crosby cares to lead anymore. He has his nest egg. Why win?
How do we stop this guy from making videos !!!!
@@kevinsandhu9706 Send me $10,000. Otherwise, suck it
F the Pens. The new lowly team !!! Not Utah.
Haha. How is DUBUS making out. Haha. He doesn’t belong in the NHL. Not a clue what a NHL team needs. Keep him in the minors