Thanks for the walkthrough! My wife and I will be in London for our 25th anniversary next spring. We haven't been there since 2010 so definitely thankful for your videos!!
As someone who doesn’t like to spend more money than is necessary, I’d take the Piccadilly line and subsequently change for another line to get to a destination in north London ☺️ Very useful and clear video, thanks!
Hi Emily, I am so glad that I found your videos. I’m going to London for the first time as a solo traveler which I know will be stressful but thanks to your tips, I hope to be able to navigate a city that I’ve never been to before. Cheers!
Oh Lovely it is! thanks cuz I am gonna move to London Next month and still not sure which transport to take cuz I don’t know if I can take my 2 large suitcases on Elizebath line. It gives me a relief to see virtually people taking luggage like me.
Thank you for the very detailed explaination and also the video guide. Your video has helped me the most so far, "follow the yellow line" is much more easier to understand!
Yesterday I tried using my six hour layover to visit Buckingham palace area. First you must understand that if your connection is in a different terminal you cannot leave your luggage in storage. Understand that Heathrow is probably one of the worst airports when it comes to walking not to mention the stairs and long walks to get to the underground and sights. In addition the navigation in the subway is NOT straightforward and you can easily make a mistake on hopping on the wrong train or getting lost finding the connections. This video does a great job of explains this but if you have minimal time I would HIGHLY discourage a jaunt into the city. I ended up taking a taxi back from the city because I could not afford making a mistake. I was pleasantly surprised at the benefit of taking the cab. The driver was like a sightseeing tour guide. I would never try this again and if you have any mobility issues I would highly discourage a layover excursion. The airport is hard enough with all the potential for long walks. This said, my recommendation would be to take a cab regardless of cost for the added benefit of a guide and seeing the road layouts. If you are adventurous and can risk missing your flight then it is definitely a challenge. Good luck to all.... cool place regardless
Last time I found out, that instead of an oyster card we could easily take our credit cards. As you showed in your video here. That’s a beautiful system now
@@MaDFroG88 this video is for passengers arriving at terminal 3. At terminal 4, once you enter the public area, just follow the signs to the underground. As long as you don’t miss the signs, then everything should be quite easy.
Go right to where you see a yellow and blue sign that says underground and trains. 1)Piccadilly line >>>>yellow sign 2)Elizabeth line/ Heathrow express>>>> blue sign
Hey! great video. I heading to London on Tuesday for the first time!!. Landing at heathrow terminal 5 and need to get to Devonshire place.... any advice greatfully received!!
Is it easier to take the Piccadilly Line if you are staying near the river (off of Strand)? It looks like you can take Elizabeth Line to Tottenham Court Road, switch to the black line south to Charring cross. Or, you can take the Piccadilly line to Leicester Square, switch to the black line to charring cross. Thanks for your input!
I would personally take the Elizabeth line. The Elizabeth line is more comfortable and there is more room if you have suitcases. I also would avoid Leicester Square if I had suitcases because it tends to be a very crowded station. However, the Piccadilly line would probably be a little bit cheaper, so there’s that to consider.
I heard that heathrow express is free for kids under 15 yrs old. So if I’m traveling with my 13 yrs old kid, which mode do you suggest for a return trip (LHR - Paddington)
Thank you very helpful for our upcoming trip. We haven't been in over 10 years. We still have an oyster card. Can we refill that card with money and use it on the underground still? Thanks for any tips.
Thanks for this video. Really good info! One quick question: How long would you allow to get from LHR to London St. Pancras to catch the Eurostar? If our flight arrives at LHR at 12:10, could we reasonably make a 15:00 train?
It’s recommended to get to St. Pancras for the Eurostar 60-90 mins before your train departs (gates close 30 mins before) to allow time to go through security and passport control at the station. It’ll also probably take a while to get your bags from baggage claim and make your way to the tube, then it’s 45-50 mins on the tube. So I would recommend allowing more time if at all possible.
You can take the Elizabeth line to Liverpool Street and then switch to the northern line northbound to St. Pancras. You can take a bicycle. There should be plenty of room on the Elizabeth line. It may be a tight fit ok the northern line, but it’s only 3 stops. I recommend double checking your journey on Citymapper or google maps.
Thank you for your guide . We are planning to travel in may this year. I am choosing London Heathrow hotels for for 3 days stay. My question is do we come to airport daily to get to central London or there is another budget friendly way to get to central London from hotel ?
I have a stop in London and I reserved hotel holiday Inn T4 , I want you please to help me by explaining how I can get transportation to London centre < cheapest way > I have only 13 hours there and I want to know little bit the city and what is the best places 😅 I will arrived around 5 pm and I want to spent 2 or 3 hours in the city and I have to go back to sleep because my flight next day early morning.
How difficult do you think it is traveling with baggage from Heathrow to Paddington? I'll be with my wife and daughter so we'll have 3 roller bags and back packs. I know that since the journey starts from Heathrow there will be more available seats. Just curious how people react when others are traveling with all that baggage :)
I don’t think it’s too difficult, especially if you take the Elizabeth line or Heathrow express. People in London are very used to tourists and people with luggage, so don’t worry too much about that!
On a similar note, I see that some people are pushing big luggage carts. I cannot imagine that those are allowed on the train, so there must be a point where the carts have to be unloaded and left behind, and you are on your own with your piles of luggage. Please explain. Thanks.
@@CarolynPhillips-py5wy yes, there is. There are these devices that won’t allow you to push those trolleys through a checkpoint. So you have to unload your luggage and go through the turnstile without the trolley. There’s no way you can trick it there’s no way you can bypass turnstile are designed not to let the trolley through but you can walk through with your luggage. It was a bit of a challenge getting on Elizabeth line with all that luggage. But we managed it.
Is there some kind of 2-week pass that allows you to use it on any subway train, any bus? I was originally going to land in London Gatwick Airport but I changed it to Heathrow Airport because it is only a 1 ride to get to the hostel from Heathrow vs. multiple from Gatwick. I have to take the healthrow express and get off somewhere around Paddington Station. If I took Gatwick, I would have to get off Marylebone. Or is there a station that is more recommended, more safe? I'm getting off at night around 8:15 p.m. on a Friday night at Paddington Station. Is there a preference of using US dollars vs. pounds? I'm coming from Los Angeles and my friend told me its cheaper to use the currency of the country you're in over US dollars because of overcharging. And then, when I want to go to places like Big Ben, London Eye, it requires me to get on Marylebone and take either of these trains - Southern (Green), Thameslink (white and colored train), and Jubilee (red train), Bakerloo, Overground, Victoria. I am so worried, I'm taking my first alone trip and want to have a train ticket pass to make things easier if possible. Worried about costs too. My hostel is on Cosway St and Bell Street - Bell House Hostel but I haven't booked it yet because there are too many to choose from. There's others like Publove White Chapel but am worried of dangeorous areas. I've heard of Oystercards or TravelCards, worried about getting lost, etc.
If you use a contactless card/phone or Oyster card, there is a daily cap for all Transport for London (TfL) services, including the tube, buses, overground, and Elizabeth Line. The national rail trains (like Thameslink) are not part of TfL. Most tourists will be just fine on the tube, or bus to get around, or just walk and enjoy the sites. Statistically speaking, London is far safer than LA.
I have a 8 hour layover in London. just want to see piccadilly circus and some nearby places and be back to airport for onward journey, which line should I take? I also heard lots of issues with elizabeth line as there were couple of reports lately of train stalled and commuters stranded for 4 hours. I dont want to miss my flight.
You can take the Elizabeth line to Farringdon and then get the Thameslink train to Luton. Or, you can take the Piccadilly like to Kings Cross St Pancras and take the East Midlands train from there. I’d really recommend getting the Citymapper app so you can check train times on the day of.
Another YT post mentioned that purchasing Heathrow express tickets 3 months prior to trip will only cost 5 pounds pp. Which would you recommend to take if staying near St. Paul's Cathedral or Sky Garden?
If you took the Heathrow Express, then you'd end up having to transfer to the Elizabeth line or tube (depending on your exact destination) at Paddington station. Seems easier to just start on the Elizabeth line from the beginning.
@@emily_meadows if i want to go whitechapel or to see tower bridge from heathrow t4 airport . does i need to get off to paddington station from elizabeth line? first time i will go england thats why i need route information.
I’d recommend using the Citymapper app to double check the best route on the day of travel, but I would probably personally take the Elizabeth line to Tottenham Court Road and then the Northern Line to Euston.
is there any Train from Terminal 3/4/5 to Shenfield (Eastbound). The Elizabeth line on TFL site shows such a route but I cant find such route on google or citymapper. I will get off at Forestgate, I have a lot of luggage, so I don't want any interchange.
I'm coming in August, I have a 7 hour layover, would that be long enough to go into London for an hour or 2? How would you travel taxi or train? Thanks
Personally, I wouldn’t really recommend it. You have to go through customs when you arrive and then you’d need to go back through security. Heathrow is not particularly near any tourist attractions, but if you’re thinking of going somewhere like Westminster to see Big Ben, it’ll take at least an hour to get there in addition to the time it takes to get through customs and find transportation. If you really want to, there are some discussion boards on trip advisor that may offer some additional insight and suggestions.
Would you have to take the train from Terminal 5 to Terminal 3, if you’re making a connection through different airlines? Say American Airlines to British Airways.
When you arrive at your destination, there will most likely be a barrier and you’ll need to tap to get out. There are a few stations that don’t have a barrier, so in that case, look for a yellow circle on the wall with a card symbol on it.
Another question -- you mentioned "contactless credit card " -- I think that's what you said. What is that? And, then it appears that you use your phone (again -- not sure) to tap against something at the turnstile. I have no idea what a contactless credit card is, and my phone doesn't "do" anything like tapping to enter or whatever. So, how do I purchase tickets? Is there an agent nearby to help? (I can't even operate the self-checkout at the grocery store, so I would certainly need assistance on this.) I assume a paper ticket will somehow let me through the turnstile - how does that work? Do you slide the paper through a slot somewhere?
Follow where it says Underground. It’s the Piccadilly Line. Just Tap in with your credit card. It’s that easy. When you get off eg Earls Court, just tap your credit card. Too easy.
Hello , we are flying into LHR this June and was wondering which train to take to see Buckingham Palace and Big Ben as well as the Tower of London. We are a party of 3 do we need Oyster cards ? Thank you
Errrr follow the large signs in English telling you which way the tube is , the taxis are , the coaches or the station is … do Americans need a video for this ??
Public transport is not as plentiful in the US and most people are not very familiar with it even though for Europeans it seems very simple. I had some anxiety about arriving to Heathrow my first time - so, yes a video was super helpful! Even though everyone was just lovely and helpful when I arrived it was nice to be a tiny bit familiar with what I was looking for.
One of the best videos to watch if u r comin to London for the the first time , short and detailed with no confusing dialogue at all!
If you’re arriving at a different terminal, things are different.
Thanks for the walkthrough! My wife and I will be in London for our 25th anniversary next spring. We haven't been there since 2010 so definitely thankful for your videos!!
As someone who doesn’t like to spend more money than is necessary, I’d take the Piccadilly line and subsequently change for another line to get to a destination in north London ☺️ Very useful and clear video, thanks!
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you
Hi Emily, I am so glad that I found your videos. I’m going to London for the first time as a solo traveler which I know will be stressful but thanks to your tips, I hope to be able to navigate a city that I’ve never been to before. Cheers!
Oh Lovely it is! thanks cuz I am gonna move to London Next month and still not sure which transport to take cuz I don’t know if I can take my 2 large suitcases on Elizebath line. It gives me a relief to see virtually people taking luggage like me.
Thank you for doing this, it is a stress reliever!
Thats the most useful and detailed explanation ever, Thanks a lot
You couldn't have made that clear or easier to understand thank you for your time and your video
I'll be traveling to London this summer, so this super helpful! Especially as this will be my first solo trip 😅
Super helpful, the Elizabeth line is new since I was in London so this really helps.
Thank you for the very detailed explaination and also the video guide. Your video has helped me the most so far, "follow the yellow line" is much more easier to understand!
Yesterday I tried using my six hour layover to visit Buckingham palace area. First you must understand that if your connection is in a different terminal you cannot leave your luggage in storage. Understand that Heathrow is probably one of the worst airports when it comes to walking not to mention the stairs and long walks to get to the underground and sights. In addition the navigation in the subway is NOT straightforward and you can easily make a mistake on hopping on the wrong train or getting lost finding the connections. This video does a great job of explains this but if you have minimal time I would HIGHLY discourage a jaunt into the city. I ended up taking a taxi back from the city because I could not afford making a mistake. I was pleasantly surprised at the benefit of taking the cab. The driver was like a sightseeing tour guide. I would never try this again and if you have any mobility issues I would highly discourage a layover excursion. The airport is hard enough with all the potential for long walks. This said, my recommendation would be to take a cab regardless of cost for the added benefit of a guide and seeing the road layouts. If you are adventurous and can risk missing your flight then it is definitely a challenge. Good luck to all.... cool place regardless
This video is for passengers arriving at terminal 3. If you’re arriving elsewhere, then things are different.
Last time I found out, that instead of an oyster card we could easily take our credit cards. As you showed in your video here. That’s a beautiful system now
Finally some good substance quickly, real helpful.
going to london this seriously saved me. THANK YOU
I am traveling to London and this is very helpful. Short and what we need to know , explained clearly.
Great to hear!
Thank you. I have an 8 hour London layover coming up
Heathrow to Cockfosters (northern terminal of the Piccadilly Line) takes about an hour and a half and is easy and straightforward.
Tomorrow, i arrive on terminal 4. Hopefully, i dont get lost. Need to catch picadily line to Gloucester Road station 😅
@@MaDFroG88 this video is for passengers arriving at terminal 3. At terminal 4, once you enter the public area, just follow the signs to the underground. As long as you don’t miss the signs, then everything should be quite easy.
Contactless and Oyster are accepted on Heathrow Express. And the Elizabeth Line isn't much slower than waiting for the following Heathrow Express.
Thank you so much, for your video. I am planning to go in a couple of months. :)
Awesome video. New subscriber alert!
Awesome thank you!
Go right to where you see a yellow and blue sign that says underground and trains.
1)Piccadilly line >>>>yellow sign
2)Elizabeth line/ Heathrow express>>>> blue sign
Thanks so much for your informative videos!!
Hey! great video. I heading to London on Tuesday for the first time!!. Landing at heathrow terminal 5 and need to get to Devonshire place.... any advice greatfully received!!
Is it easier to take the Piccadilly Line if you are staying near the river (off of Strand)? It looks like you can take Elizabeth Line to Tottenham Court Road, switch to the black line south to Charring cross. Or, you can take the Piccadilly line to Leicester Square, switch to the black line to charring cross. Thanks for your input!
I would personally take the Elizabeth line. The Elizabeth line is more comfortable and there is more room if you have suitcases. I also would avoid Leicester Square if I had suitcases because it tends to be a very crowded station. However, the Piccadilly line would probably be a little bit cheaper, so there’s that to consider.
@@emily_meadows Thank you! We were leaning toward Elizabeth Line…and this convinced us! Appreciate the help!!
This is so helpful. Thank you for sharing!!!
I took the Piccadilly line on my last trip - saved me from paying for an expensive taxi ride!
How much is it?
Thanks so much for your video!!
I heard that heathrow express is free for kids under 15 yrs old. So if I’m traveling with my 13 yrs old kid, which mode do you suggest for a return trip (LHR - Paddington)
Great thanks. No crap just good info
Thank you very helpful for our upcoming trip. We haven't been in over 10 years.
We still have an oyster card. Can we refill that card with money and use it on the underground still? Thanks for any tips.
Where to stop drom.hearthrow airport using picadilly circus or tibe to waterloo station ? Thanks
How about the walking distance from the terminal asking if an older passenger can walk to these stations thank you
It’s about a 10-15 mins. And I think the airport might offer help for those who need assistance.
Very clear
very helpful, thanks a lot!
Thank you so much!
Thanks for this video. Really good info! One quick question: How long would you allow to get from LHR to London St. Pancras to catch the Eurostar? If our flight arrives at LHR at 12:10, could we reasonably make a 15:00 train?
It’s recommended to get to St. Pancras for the Eurostar 60-90 mins before your train departs (gates close 30 mins before) to allow time to go through security and passport control at the station. It’ll also probably take a while to get your bags from baggage claim and make your way to the tube, then it’s 45-50 mins on the tube. So I would recommend allowing more time if at all possible.
Hi, nice video, I have two questions how about to go to St Pancras International station and can you do this travel with a bicycle? Thank you
You can take the Elizabeth line to Liverpool Street and then switch to the northern line northbound to St. Pancras. You can take a bicycle. There should be plenty of room on the Elizabeth line. It may be a tight fit ok the northern line, but it’s only 3 stops. I recommend double checking your journey on Citymapper or google maps.
The Piccadilly line will go to waterloo starion area from thre heartrow airport?
Thank you for your guide . We are planning to travel in may this year. I am choosing London Heathrow hotels for for 3 days stay. My question is do we come to airport daily to get to central London or there is another budget friendly way to get to central London from hotel ?
I have a stop in London and I reserved hotel holiday Inn T4 , I want you please to help me by explaining how I can get transportation to London centre < cheapest way > I have only 13 hours there and I want to know little bit the city and what is the best places 😅 I will arrived around 5 pm and I want to spent 2 or 3 hours in the city and I have to go back to sleep because my flight next day early morning.
If I’m staying in south bank should I take the picadilly line and get off at Waterloo?
Would I take the picc. Line if I wanted to go to King’s Cross? Thanks!
Yes, the Picadilly line goes to King’s Cross.
Awesome !!! Thanks
How difficult do you think it is traveling with baggage from Heathrow to Paddington? I'll be with my wife and daughter so we'll have 3 roller bags and back packs. I know that since the journey starts from Heathrow there will be more available seats. Just curious how people react when others are traveling with all that baggage :)
I don’t think it’s too difficult, especially if you take the Elizabeth line or Heathrow express. People in London are very used to tourists and people with luggage, so don’t worry too much about that!
On a similar note, I see that some people are pushing big luggage carts. I cannot imagine that those are allowed on the train, so there must be a point where the carts have to be unloaded and left behind, and you are on your own with your piles of luggage. Please explain. Thanks.
@@CarolynPhillips-py5wy yes, there is. There are these devices that won’t allow you to push those trolleys through a checkpoint. So you have to unload your luggage and go through the turnstile without the trolley. There’s no way you can trick it there’s no way you can bypass turnstile are designed not to let the trolley through but you can walk through with your luggage. It was a bit of a challenge getting on Elizabeth line with all that luggage. But we managed it.
Thanks for this information.@@TheK9Shepherd
I guess one shud take an uber if they got luggage, otherwise it wud be a hassle not worth the 10 pound u save!
Oh gosh I’m confused. I would like to get off at Waterloo Station. What do you suggest?
You can take the Piccadilly line to Green Park station and then take the Jubilee line one stop to Waterloo Station. Hope that helps!
@@emily_meadows yes thanks!
Is there some kind of 2-week pass that allows you to use it on any subway train, any bus? I was originally going to land in London Gatwick Airport but I changed it to Heathrow Airport because it is only a 1 ride to get to the hostel from Heathrow vs. multiple from Gatwick. I have to take the healthrow express and get off somewhere around Paddington Station. If I took Gatwick, I would have to get off Marylebone. Or is there a station that is more recommended, more safe? I'm getting off at night around 8:15 p.m. on a Friday night at Paddington Station. Is there a preference of using US dollars vs. pounds? I'm coming from Los Angeles and my friend told me its cheaper to use the currency of the country you're in over US dollars because of overcharging. And then, when I want to go to places like Big Ben, London Eye, it requires me to get on Marylebone and take either of these trains - Southern (Green), Thameslink (white and colored train), and Jubilee (red train), Bakerloo, Overground, Victoria. I am so worried, I'm taking my first alone trip and want to have a train ticket pass to make things easier if possible. Worried about costs too. My hostel is on Cosway St and Bell Street - Bell House Hostel but I haven't booked it yet because there are too many to choose from. There's others like Publove White Chapel but am worried of dangeorous areas. I've heard of Oystercards or TravelCards, worried about getting lost, etc.
If you use a contactless card/phone or Oyster card, there is a daily cap for all Transport for London (TfL) services, including the tube, buses, overground, and Elizabeth Line. The national rail trains (like Thameslink) are not part of TfL. Most tourists will be just fine on the tube, or bus to get around, or just walk and enjoy the sites. Statistically speaking, London is far safer than LA.
I have a 8 hour layover in London. just want to see piccadilly circus and some nearby places and be back to airport for onward journey, which line should I take? I also heard lots of issues with elizabeth line as there were couple of reports lately of train stalled and commuters stranded for 4 hours. I dont want to miss my flight.
Did you visit already? Could you share your experience? I have layover also and want to do the same
Very helpful...but the video goes by very fast
Which line can I take from Heathrow to Thistle Express Hotel Luton please. I will be visiting soon for the first time with my daughters.
You can take the Elizabeth line to Farringdon and then get the Thameslink train to Luton. Or, you can take the Piccadilly like to Kings Cross St Pancras and take the East Midlands train from there. I’d really recommend getting the Citymapper app so you can check train times on the day of.
Usually? Taxi.
Do sometimes stay at a hotel that sends a car and driver to take me.
Another YT post mentioned that purchasing Heathrow express tickets 3 months prior to trip will only cost 5 pounds pp. Which would you recommend to take if staying near St. Paul's Cathedral or Sky Garden?
If you took the Heathrow Express, then you'd end up having to transfer to the Elizabeth line or tube (depending on your exact destination) at Paddington station.
Seems easier to just start on the Elizabeth line from the beginning.
How late are they open till?
can we use oyster card for entry to the train? please reply
Only if you’re staying within the zones of London. If you leave London, you’ll need to buy a separate ticket.
@@emily_meadows if i want to go whitechapel or to see tower bridge from heathrow t4 airport . does i need to get off to paddington station from elizabeth line? first time i will go england thats why i need route information.
Hello, what line would you recommend to go from terminal 4 to euston station?
I’d recommend using the Citymapper app to double check the best route on the day of travel, but I would probably personally take the Elizabeth line to Tottenham Court Road and then the Northern Line to Euston.
@@emily_meadows Thanks Emily!
is there any Train from Terminal 3/4/5 to Shenfield (Eastbound). The Elizabeth line on TFL site shows such a route but I cant find such route on google or citymapper. I will get off at Forestgate, I have a lot of luggage, so I don't want any interchange.
You might have to go to Paddington from the airport and then transfer there.
I'm coming in August, I have a 7 hour layover, would that be long enough to go into London for an hour or 2? How would you travel taxi or train? Thanks
Personally, I wouldn’t really recommend it. You have to go through customs when you arrive and then you’d need to go back through security. Heathrow is not particularly near any tourist attractions, but if you’re thinking of going somewhere like Westminster to see Big Ben, it’ll take at least an hour to get there in addition to the time it takes to get through customs and find transportation. If you really want to, there are some discussion boards on trip advisor that may offer some additional insight and suggestions.
Does this train go to london city airport directly?
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Would you have to take the train from Terminal 5 to Terminal 3, if you’re making a connection through different airlines? Say American Airlines to British Airways.
There is also an airside bus, which you can use if don't need to collect and recheck bags, both train and bus are free.
Where do you tap out?
When you arrive at your destination, there will most likely be a barrier and you’ll need to tap to get out. There are a few stations that don’t have a barrier, so in that case, look for a yellow circle on the wall with a card symbol on it.
Simply prepay for the Heathrow Express and pay a lot less than you would pay on the day. Far quicker than other modes of transport.
Another question -- you mentioned "contactless credit card " -- I think that's what you said. What is that? And, then it appears that you use your phone (again -- not sure) to tap against something at the turnstile. I have no idea what a contactless credit card is, and my phone doesn't "do" anything like tapping to enter or whatever. So, how do I purchase tickets? Is there an agent nearby to help? (I can't even operate the self-checkout at the grocery store, so I would certainly need assistance on this.) I assume a paper ticket will somehow let me through the turnstile - how does that work? Do you slide the paper through a slot somewhere?
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Follow where it says Underground. It’s the Piccadilly Line. Just Tap in with your credit card. It’s that easy. When you get off eg Earls Court, just tap your credit card. Too easy.
Hello , we are flying into LHR this June and was wondering which train to take to see Buckingham Palace and Big Ben as well as the Tower of London. We are a party of 3 do we need Oyster cards ? Thank you
Hi, do you know how much is it from to ride the Picadilly line to Leicester?
Errrr follow the large signs in English telling you which way the tube is , the taxis are , the coaches or the station is … do Americans need a video for this ??
Public transport is not as plentiful in the US and most people are not very familiar with it even though for Europeans it seems very simple. I had some anxiety about arriving to Heathrow my first time - so, yes a video was super helpful! Even though everyone was just lovely and helpful when I arrived it was nice to be a tiny bit familiar with what I was looking for.