Double Assegai….. hmmmm. I’ve gone back to DHF for the season ahead and after nearly 2 years with an Assegai up front, I instantly noticed that where the Assy starts to wanna let go, that’s the exact point the DHF hooks up and engages, feels like it wants me to get lower in the turns and engage the corner knobs to rail those turns plus it feels faster again too. I’m no elite rider but I like that feeling rather than adapting my riding style to suit something that’s popular. I’ve converted back to Minions! 😂
I watched more reviews on ebikes than you can imagine and after watching the videos you did on the alpine e2 and how genuinely thrilled you were by the bike I pulled the trigger and bought one and I could not be happier. Cheers heaps mate.
Great bike, I love mine. I've had the over-temp lights flash as well when I was on a 1000.+meter climb in +30C deg weather I'm 99kgs so that works the motor. No lasting problems, I just let it cool and kept riding.
Love your videos mate, I’ve gone and got myself a Trance X Advanced Elite 2 E, watched this video before deciding between the Trance / Reign. If you want to give it a run let me know, I’m in Burnside - will trade some setup tips in return 😁
I don’t think so. Its more to manage and we don’t really need more than 170 up front for the majority of our trails. But its fun to go a little more yee ha up front
I was also wondering how the bike would perform with a 180 fork...did you bump up the travel on the stock fork or bought a new one? I am between the Reign and the Alpine Trail E2.I shall bump up the travel in the fork to 170 if I end up with the Marin. Keep up the good work!
I don’t have enough time on the new Zeb to really detail a comparison yet. But from the time spent so far I’d say the Charger 3 damper is let down by the thick 7wt damping oil making you set up the fork undersprung to keep the fork from feeling overdamped and harsh on the hands. Which causes a lot of stress on the damping unit as it is dealing with so much more force being undersprung. The new Zeb chassis and air spring with the old damper feels excellent. Supple and controlled and tunable. I think we’ll see a lot of people running a 5wt damping oil in their charger 3 dampers to improve performance and be able to lean a little more on spring support without getting beat up. The 38 is excellent when set up right, but many people struggle with it because of the highspeed rebound setup and the range of compression adjustment. In my opinion the 38 grip2 is currently the slightly better performer
I’d like to spend more time on the new damper before recommending against it. It might be exceptionally good once set up right, but for now I’m not sure its necessary over the previous damper.
Glad I came across this video. I went from a lyrik ultimate charger 2.1 c1 spring to a Zeb charger 3 and been struggling with the set up for months. Loved the feeling of the lyrik but wanted a stiffer fork for rock gardens. I'm 70kg kitted up and found I've had to run 10 psi lower than what rockshox recommends, I'm at 50 psi and running rebound all the way open but still finding it slow and heavily damped. Compression wise I'm on the middle setting or baseline and that works well. I'm thinking about having a lighter tune done on the damper to hopefully speed up the rebound and have it feeling more like the precious lyrik. Look forward to your review of the new Zeb
@@bunthoeuntek1382 i’d ask for a 5wt or a 3wt damping fluid as the new charger 3 runs a 7wt fluid which is very thick, hence the slow rebound and constantly overdamped feeling. Too much resistance goes through the damper and not enough coming from the spring. I’m not sure of the intricacies of that damper but that a 5wt oil would be my first move if I had that fork
Double Assegai….. hmmmm. I’ve gone back to DHF for the season ahead and after nearly 2 years with an Assegai up front, I instantly noticed that where the Assy starts to wanna let go, that’s the exact point the DHF hooks up and engages, feels like it wants me to get lower in the turns and engage the corner knobs to rail those turns plus it feels faster again too. I’m no elite rider but I like that feeling rather than adapting my riding style to suit something that’s popular. I’ve converted back to Minions! 😂
Good to have you back mate! The fastest in the world seem to love the Assegai, I’m not so bullish on it. Minions keep me coming back so far
I watched more reviews on ebikes than you can imagine and after watching the videos you did on the alpine e2 and how genuinely thrilled you were by the bike I pulled the trigger and bought one and I could not be happier. Cheers heaps mate.
Absolutely killer bike!
@@mtbtelly5522 Its XL with a 450 coil but you're more than welcome to take it for a couple of hot laps whenever you like.
@@leeroberts9091 bit big for me there but thanks for the offer! 👑👑
I just picked up a used 2022 giant reign e + with a Zeb select plus already on it, im excited to ride it. Your flying!
Mean a 2020?
@@petesahad3028 opps I meant 2022! she even came with sram wireless shifting too
Great bike, I love mine. I've had the over-temp lights flash as well when I was on a 1000.+meter climb in +30C deg weather I'm 99kgs so that works the motor. No lasting problems, I just let it cool and kept riding.
Love your videos mate, I’ve gone and got myself a Trance X Advanced Elite 2 E, watched this video before deciding between the Trance / Reign.
If you want to give it a run let me know, I’m in Burnside - will trade some setup tips in return 😁
Oh killer! Yeah man I’d love to take that for a blast and get you a nice setup
This is why i need an ebike 🤣 morries, horsies and wfg in 1 sitting 👌
Always fun to be had on an Ebike.
You can find yourself way further away from base when something breaks though.
Do the 23 Zebs have the same CSU creak and lower problems as the 21’s?
I'm buying Reign next week, is it an 800 battery?
Hey mate is this bike heavy ? Do you know his real weight ? Im going for size L for the same bike and 800watts battery.
Cheers !
Do your trail’s really need a 180 Zeb ?
I don’t think so. Its more to manage and we don’t really need more than 170 up front for the majority of our trails. But its fun to go a little more yee ha up front
@@mtbtelly5522 makes sense , experimenting is always fun ! Probably with an Ebike a beefy Zeb holds the weight well.
Enjoy your ride
I was also wondering how the bike would perform with a 180 fork...did you bump up the travel on the stock fork or bought a new one? I am between the Reign and the Alpine Trail E2.I shall bump up the travel in the fork to 170 if I end up with the Marin. Keep up the good work!
Its the same fork I just put a 180 spring in it
Do you run flip chip on high with the 180 front? Does it bring it to about same head angle as if u were 170 and low? But with more pedal clearance?
is that a new Zeb? how it compares to the old one?
Hanging to get back on the bike. Been off for 4 weeks now due to fractured wrist. Have you ever run a DH casing Assegai up front? I'm super tempted
Yeah I tested the DH Assegai front and rear on the Patrol. In winter so softer soil mostly. They’re certainly stronger in the DH casing
@mtb , so after testing the new Zeb 23 & Fox 38 can you give us some feedback
I don’t have enough time on the new Zeb to really detail a comparison yet. But from the time spent so far I’d say the Charger 3 damper is let down by the thick 7wt damping oil making you set up the fork undersprung to keep the fork from feeling overdamped and harsh on the hands. Which causes a lot of stress on the damping unit as it is dealing with so much more force being undersprung.
The new Zeb chassis and air spring with the old damper feels excellent. Supple and controlled and tunable. I think we’ll see a lot of people running a 5wt damping oil in their charger 3 dampers to improve performance and be able to lean a little more on spring support without getting beat up.
The 38 is excellent when set up right, but many people struggle with it because of the highspeed rebound setup and the range of compression adjustment. In my opinion the 38 grip2 is currently the slightly better performer
So i should not upgrade to charger 3 damper if im light weight?
I’d like to spend more time on the new damper before recommending against it. It might be exceptionally good once set up right, but for now I’m not sure its necessary over the previous damper.
Glad I came across this video. I went from a lyrik ultimate charger 2.1 c1 spring to a Zeb charger 3 and been struggling with the set up for months. Loved the feeling of the lyrik but wanted a stiffer fork for rock gardens.
I'm 70kg kitted up and found I've had to run 10 psi lower than what rockshox recommends, I'm at 50 psi and running rebound all the way open but still finding it slow and heavily damped. Compression wise I'm on the middle setting or baseline and that works well. I'm thinking about having a lighter tune done on the damper to hopefully speed up the rebound and have it feeling more like the precious lyrik.
Look forward to your review of the new Zeb
@@bunthoeuntek1382 i’d ask for a 5wt or a 3wt damping fluid as the new charger 3 runs a 7wt fluid which is very thick, hence the slow rebound and constantly overdamped feeling. Too much resistance goes through the damper and not enough coming from the spring. I’m not sure of the intricacies of that damper but that a 5wt oil would be my first move if I had that fork
@@mtbtelly5522 thanks mate, appreciate the response. Let's see, hopefully the lighter weight fluid does the trick.