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Three Military Folders by Victorinox: German Army, Swiss Soldier's, U.S. Combat Utility Knife.
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- In this episode I take a look at the modern German Army Knife, Swiss Soldiers Knife and the U.S. Combat Utility Knife and the knives they previously used knife they were designed to replace.
I take a much closer look at the U.S. Combat Utility Knife and try to shed light on some of the misconceptions of this exceptional knife. This includes delving into if the knife is replacement for the Mil-K 818 or just another tool in the modern U.S. Military.
Some acronyms will be shown during the video. The information below will be helpful for folks who are unfamiliar with them. Both knives are listed as "A" (Active) in the supply chain. They would be listed "F" (Obsolete) if no longer in service.
NSN: National stock Number
FSC: Federal Supply Classification
NIIN: National Item Identification Number
Item Name: Common name
INC: Item Name Code
Victorinox:
U.S Combat Utility Knife
NSN: 1095-01-653-1166
FFC: 1095
NIIN: 016531166
Item Name: Knife, Combat
INC: 22644
Mil Spec: (numerous makers in inventory)
Mil-K 818
NSN: 5110-00-162-2205
FFC: 5110
NIIN: 001622205
Item Name: Knife, Pocket
INC: 03800
About NSN:
In the US and the UK NSN is known as a National Stock Number. It was originally called the Federal Stock Number
The US adapted the FSN by adding two numbers for country of origin. This new number became a standardized numbering system for member stations of NATO and other American Allies. It was originally known as a National Stock Number and is still known as a National Stock Number in the US. Member Nations of NATO call it A NATO Stock. Number. I was a Supply Officer in the US Army. We never called it a NATO Stock Number.
Today, numerous western nations allied with the United States, including South Korea, Egypt, numerous South American Nations and other Non-NATO also use the NSN numbering system and call it a National Stock Number.
What is a National Stock Number (NSN)? A National Stock Number (also known as a NATO Stock Number) is simply the official label applied to an item of supply that is repeatedly procured, stocked, stored, issued, and used throughout the federal supply system. It is a unique item identifying series of numbers.
See the pinned comment. NSN means different things to different nations.
Makes sense they would all have the same or similar knife being allies and Germany being part of the European Union. A lot of weapon magazines and ammo are like that as well.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias, I'm glad that you cleared up this problem. I served in the British Armed Forces, Royal Navy Submarine Service and a lot of people said that NSN stood for NATO STOCK NUMBER........ But I tried to use French, German and Belgium NSN'S here in the UK...... NO Chance! I don't know if it still stands for "National" Stock Number but I do know and can attest to the fact that British NSN's only can be ordered through British "slops" or stores and a lot of British NSN's still have the "Pussers Arrow" or broad arrow on them to prove that they're Her Majesty's Property. I doubt that a French Squaddie or American Sapper would be able to order a British G10 pulsar watch with the NSN and Pussers Arrow on the case back, through their stores! Divided by a common North Atlantic Treaty Organisation! But look at which countries put in the Money? The USA puts in more than the rest of the countries combined and Britain is second by quite a margin! It was certainly meaningful during the "Cold War!" but in today's world, the threats come from a different direction and, with the exception of China, are a lot smaller in nature and require a scalpel rather than an axe! One last thing........ how about a video on the Fairbairn Sykes fighting knife? Still issued to the British Royal Marine Commandos today? (I could probably find out the NSN for it!)
NATO Stock Number in Australian Defence Force too
(Ex Aust army)
I was given the German Army pocket knife while attending the German Winter and Mountain school in Mittenwald, Germany, in 1982. I used it extensively for the next 10 years of my military service. The corkscrew was the main reason I kept on using the knife, as it was Europe, and if you wanted to open a ine bottle, you needed the corkscrew! Also, you could screw it into a lenght of wood and use it as an anchor for the saw when you wanted to cut a branch above your reach. Always kept a good edge, and you could even open cans with the bottle opener. Great knife!
Using the corkscrew as an anchor in wood is a great use! I do wish Victorinox had kept the corkscrew in place of one of the flat head screwdrivers, but anyway!
@@milk-it The Rangergrip 79 is a larger version of the Swiss soldier's knife, and it comes with a corkscrew.
Dammit I just decided to get the one with the screw driver. But I never thought to use the corkscrew that way. Now I'll have to buy both and my wife says I spend too much already.
My friend manages a surplus store, and several months ago they received a shipment of surplus German army one-hander knives. It was interesting to see that most of the blades had been ground down significantly, producing a finer point and removing the serrations.
I have the German army knife, it's my go to knife for: hiking, yard work, and general utility.
Victorinox designates the cap lifter as a prybar, it's more robust than any of the other versions. 111mm gives enough leverage for a decent pry. It is far more practical than all the mini prybars all the EDC freaks insist on carrying on their keychains. The saw is highly underrated, for its size. The push/pull teeth are very aggressive. The reamer is great to open packages and is a good ferro rod striker. The T handle style of the Phillips driver is limiting, but there is no denying the torque it applies.
I have used the corkscrew to untie stubborn knots, to fish out small parts, to lift up stuck lids, to remove corks, it houses a tiny screwdriver and the sharp point has been handy several times .
In most cases I prefer the corkscrew to the spine mounted Phillips . I find the spine Phillips harder to use than one mounted at the end. My normal EDC is an Explorer or a Huntsman.
The screwdriver tip on the can opener often proves to be a better driver spine mounted Phillips.
I’m with you on the corkscrew but I can see also see why a knife destined for the military would go with the screwdriver. But then the 108mm German Army Knife had a screwdriver!
Exactly my experience with the corkscrew. Two weeks ago, I lifted a stubborn lid off of a pot with the corkscrew on my Rangergrip 79.
i have carried a Victorinox locker since they came out i like the tweezers and toothpick or sparky...i sent my first one in to them for scale repair and it came back completely rebuilt with a new blade...i have NEVER SEEN A BETTER COMPANY TO DEAL WITH (and i would be considered old-haha)...Creator bless...doug (canada)
Hi from the UK. Really enjoyed the video. About ten years ago I was able to pick up one of the original German Army issue knives at a surplus store. At the same time I was able to score another Victorinox military issue knife, this time for the Royal Netherlands Army. It is identical to the Adventurer model but in drab olive green and has the Dutch army symbol on it. I did not pay very much for them and they are two of my favorites.
The Dutch model is fantastic, they were only £10-12 recently in worn condition, obviously a bit more in pristine condition. Unfortunately I messed about and they were all gone when I came to buy them!
Nice round up of Vic military knives. Thanks for sharing.
The German knife is issued to every soldier and mostly used to open MREs and sharpen sticks. It's an addition to the KM2000 combat knife.
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Is every German soldier issued a km2000?
@@RoverTheDog1 Yeah, it's standard issue.
I absolutely love the sound of the snap and pop of Victorinox tools opening and closing. Its such a satisfying sound.
I used to carry the original German army knife back in the 80es then switched to the new model a few years back. It's a great multi tool.
I just ordered the US black anodized Vic!!! Can’t wait to get it in me hands! Thanks Tobias for another great video!!!
The new US Combat Utility knife is, of course, available to servicemen/women both on the job and in the PX. I would think that some are actually issued as were many demo knives back in the day. Some folks in the field artillery, for example, were issued a demo knife for specific purposes ref powder, containers, and fuses. However I don't know how or if the new Combat Utility knife is otherwise distributed. Personally I would have liked to have seen them add the metal saw to it for a near perfect tool set. Very cool collection Tobias.
Nice video!!!
I have carried a Trekker for work for about 10 years now, it is a very versatile tool.
When I was in the Army in the mid 80’s I carried a Vic Tinker, Bucklite 422, and a Gerber EZ Out. I wish the 111mm Vic’s were available then.
Never met a knife I didn't like. You could put a folding Roy Rogers with Trigger knife in front of me and I'd buy it. I own the older German version - great knife and I use it regularly as a part of my permanent camping gear. I have to say the US blacked out army knife is awesome. Smoky Mountain Knife works here I come!
I just bought the Swiss Army issue knife. Very pleased with it. As I'm ambidextrous with such utensils, the lefthanded blade opening doesn't bother me. It's easy to get used to. Quality piece of kit and not too big. Mine was made in 2021! Thanks for posting.
I had no idea that the Swiss Army Knife was first developed for the German Army!
Many thanks!
Not all Swiss Army Knives, just this 111mm Swiss Soldier's Knife. The original Swiss Army knife from 1890 was actually made to Swiss Specifications in German Factories. Then in 1891, the Carl Elsener and a group of Swiss Cutlers began making them in Switzerland. Some time in the 1970's Switzerland was awarded to make the 108mm German Army Knife, along with several other companies, and Victorinox then expanded the 108mm knives into the Safari line of knives. Victorinox had already developed a two handed Trekker when in the early 2000's Germany sent out a specs for new one handed opening knife for their soldiers. Victorinox modified the their two handed Trekker in to a one hand opening knife and submitted for a trials and this became the new German Army Knife.
After seeing how successful the knife was, Switzerland decided to adopted it as well. Several countries use some type of Victorinx 111mm knife as their ssue pocket knife.
hi Tobias i bought a couple more used swiss army knives because of your vid (for backup and to give away) thanks...i was without my well worn trecker for a couple years until it was found under a deck that i built on a farm, i now use a lanyard...felt naked without that knife, haha...Creator bless...doug
That is why I have a second one on the way. My old Wenger Standard Issue went missing somehow.
Great video, Tobias. I bought a Bundeswehr copy for $5.99, and I like it quite a bit. To my mind, it has the perfect combination of blades and I like the size. It even comes with a knife slip.
Unfortunately, those three places listed to not have the knife or out of stock. Ill keep trying to hunt that knife down. Phenomenal video thank you sir.
Very interesting as always. I got a surplus West German 111mm army knife and I noticed that the thumb hole is flatter more eye shaped, with the result of the blade being much more robust in this area. I also have the later version with round hole that you demonstrated. I think the knives are great but I would have preferred a plain blade.
I bought the German Army version because I already had the rescue knife which is similar, the difference is the rescue knife has a saw for cutting through shatterproof safety glass. 2018 new federal regulations all four sides of every car has to be shatterproof safety glass so a regular window punch no longer works that's why I bought the Swiss Army rescue knife because it has a special saw. Then I bought this one because this has a Crosscut saw blade 4 Wood which by the way protrudes a little bit so you can actually open the saw by rubbing the tip against something one handed
I bougth one in mount Pilatus 5 years and and I love it!
I’ve been looking at this model for a couple years. I have an old used Camilas army folder. Just happened to be looking at a knife retailer and found it again so I bought it. Good addition to my work carry. Love Victorinox.
The Best thing about Victorinox is their quality control. you know what you're getting when you buy a Vic.
Nice episode! I have the Dutch Army version (issued to army, navy and airforce). It's like the German one, but they changed out the sawblade for a second curved serated blade with a rounded off tip. (to cut webbing straps)
That sounds like a pretty useful blade swap. I can imagine it getting more use, especially in the Navy and Air Force units!
I think it's probably similar to the Gerber multi tools we were issued in the Army. They were "issued" as in the Army gave it to us free of charge and we got to keep it. I was in a mech unit. We were constantly having to fiddle with generators and stuff like that. I had a Leatherman I'd bought at the PX, which came in handy for stuff like that. Those kinds of tools were pretty new at the time. My section sergeant saw it was useful, noticed the multi tools were in the supply catalog. The same place you'd order pens and printer paper or whatever. So he ordered us some with our section's budget and handed them out. Of course I didn't get one because I already had my Leatherman...... They didn't have a mil spec like the "demo knife" but they were for all intents and purposes "issued" with an NSN.
IMO, the '61 Soldier/Pioneer is one of the best EDC knives ever made. I have two, one is a custom with titanium scales. For EDC, it can't be beat.
Regarding the Soldier '08, it is a great knife if you're in the field. I have not handled the German model, so I can't comment on that.
I just bought the Swiss Soldier '08 for my Son who is in the Navy.
As you mentioned, it's middle of the road, price wise.
I personally think the U.S. model is over rated for the price. I understand for a collector it may have appeal, but for a knife to use it's over priced.
I'm also not a huge fan of the black hardware.
Again, that's just me and my taste.
They're all excellent. It comes down to personal preference. If it's a Victorinox, you won't go wrong no matter what you choose.
I'm not a fan of the U.S. knock off of the '61 Soldier.
I am a big believer of "Made in U.S.A", but when it comes to knives in this class, the Swiss have mastered it.
Thank you for the video.
I bought the new soldier combat victorinox knife with the black oxide blades 1 month ago,is very cool,nice looking knife,I used both flat screwdrivers once,big and small,and both peeled off at the tip,with few more uses is going to be completely off the black stuff. I think with use and time,all black is going to be gone including the US letters. Looks like is not going to hold for long. Because is cool knife its better to just keep it on display and enjoy looking at it. What a pity.
I’m a half assed collector I’d buy one if I find one at a decent price just to put it on display. It wouldn’t be a priority though mainly into bayonets.
Great video, didn’t realise it was so widely used in various militaries.
You might be interested to know the civvy Trekker is standard issue in the Singapore Armed Services and has been for over 7years.
Not that I know of. SMKW used to have a Subscription box and they did toss in Rough Ryders but not enough to make it worth my while.
Very informative vid. Stay safe Tobias.
Thanks for showing these knives. I was not aware of them before now. I have a civilian version of the Trekker and the Tinker but have never seen the military versions. They are really cool looking with the olive drab handles and blacked out tools. There is no doubt that Swiss Army knives are among the most useful multitools ever. Thanks
Several other nations also use some version of a Victorinox 111mm knife. The Outrider is a very popular choice for the Military forces/
I really like the idea of the file on the back of the saw. Wish they all had that feature.
The nail file was only on the version two of the (two-handed, original) German Army knife. But maybe you mean it should be added on the other army knife models.
Love the U.S. version. You’re right though, it’s not automatically issued. In 15 years of service I’ve never seen one, not even in the PX/BX’s around the world. I used the original Demo Knife at SERE along with the ubiquitous Bolt Knife but then had to give them back. The only “knife” i was ever issued and got to keep was the Gerber multitool, which was issued before going to Afghanistan. Glad i got to keep that one, but obviously it’s too big to carry around in the pocket. Almost everyone serving these days carries privately purchased knives with pocket clips, like everyone else.
When I was in I bought my own pocket knife as well ( and traded it for a GAK 😂)
BTW, the Dutch army uses the same knife as the Germans since 2010 ofcourse not with the German eagle but with the interservice logo (A Lion (Army) on an anchor(Navy) over wings(Air force))
I was in the army from 1964 to 1966. The closest thing we got to a folding knife was a P-38. As a matter of fact, going through basic and AIT, carrying any knife, except a bayonet when authorized, was a punishable offense and could earn you a court martial!
Thank you for your service.
Yikes
I could see myself owning one of those, great history as always buddy, :) 😎 👍 ✌️
There is also another civil version of this Swiss army knife. It's like the military one, with serrated blade, but instead of the philip screw driver, there's a corkscrew, and red/black scales (I have one, for hiking it's a wonderful SAK). There is also the Forester M Grip, but it has a plain blade.
Just pulled the trigger on the Swiss soldiers knive yesterday. Thanx for the review.
I like the first knife you showed us and that is one I would want if in the military as it looks more like a military knife where the others seem more like what some average civilian would buy. I say that because I was in the Air Force and was issued a knife which I still have somewhere around home and still in great shape and it was designed for use on cargo pallets which I worked on.
I was in the Army from 1997 to 2012. The only pocket tool I was ever issued was the shitty gerber. All of use bought Leathermans at the PX.
I carried a 108mm German Army Knife. I had swapped a Camillus Demo Knife for it. It got the job done.
I was watching a video by a former SERE instructor and he said the US folding knife was meant to be used by pilots alongside the fixed blade pilots survival knife. That makes sense to me. I presume that would be the demo knife Tobias? The SAK would be very useful in that situation too
Our unit issued us Benchmade assisted opening knives prior to deployment. I spent 3mo stitching up hands and fingers.
I noticed they are just different versions of the trailmaster. I have the forester, which has a non serrated blade and a corkscrew in place of the philips head s/d. I especially loved the bundeswehr version of this, thanks for the vid! I am not a fan of the serrated blade, but the german army eagle on the scales is just super nice.
Yep. All the same Swiss Army knife (Trailmaster/Trekker) with different markings or scales. I also have a Forester. Your dislike of the serated blade is shared by quite a few people!
@@KnifeChatswithTobias thanks to your vid a Bundeswehr trailmaster is on its way to my home. Cheers
Excellent review. I have the civillian Trekker version on the way. I gifted my NS Trekker to a good friend who had never heard of the 111mm series. I have read up on the serrated edge and am confident I can become proficient with it. I carried a 111mm knife (cadet?) on my LEO duty belt instead of the legendary Buck 110. Our general orders actually said a pouch was authorized for a "...Buck or similar folding knife.." I may try one of the military versions.
Ordered the Swiss Soldier knife today. Oneyear later, I am very happy with the OHT. I touched up the blade twice. I have not found the serrated edge to be a disadvantage for my day to day use. Just the opposite, I really like it. In the future, I just may obtain the German Army and U.S. versions.
I have the s.s one mine is made by Camilla and its from the early 90's in good shape😊
Not every soldier was issued that silver US folder with the textured scales. The only time I received one was when I was issued an aircrew survival kit, and it was included in the kit (mine is a mid-‘70s Camillus). I served in both the Army and the Air Force from 1980 til 2000. I noticed my father (a Korean War era Army veteran) also had one, but he couldn’t remember how he got it. He thought maybe it came with a mess kit or some rations at some point, but he is sure it wasn’t issued to him in basic training. His is also a Camillus.
I have a Victorinox Trekker the size and shape of the ones you show in this video, but with a plain blade instead of the serrated blade (I hate the serrated blades - not as versatile, and harder to sharpen) and a phillips-head screwdriver instead of a corkscrew. It’s my favorite knife, but Victorinox discontinued them for awhile, which is too bad - I use the PH screwdriver all the time, and I have no use for a corkscrew. I’ve heard they’re making them again, but only in red. If I were issued one with a serrated blade, I would reprofile the cutting edge in a heartbeat before using it in the field.
That's a beautiful Victorinox One- Hand US Soldiers knife... Must add to collection
Another interesting and informative video,while in Vietnam I carried a Swiss champ and a Buck Pathfinder fixed blade,they both did a great job for me.
Sounds like a good choice of knives. Thanks for your service.
I have the Trekker version of the German Army knife! Mine has been reground to remove the serrations. Thanks for sharing Tobias!!
was it easy to remove the serrations?
@@funtimes237 I was not the one that did the regrind!
@@BigRedEDC tnx anyway
The US stamped silver utility knife was a standard part of any demolition kit. US Army Special Forces 1974-1996. During my time, I never saw it carried as an EDC knife in part because there were better options and I'm not sure if we could purchase them. Nice channel. Thumbs up
I was in from 1980-84. I bought one before entering service and carried it until I traded it for a German Army Knife (GAK) in 1982, then i carried the GAK. I promptly went to the Class 2 store on post in Germany and bought a new Mil-K knife as soon I returned from the field. Thanks for the thumbs up. Glad you're enjoying the channel.
I have one with 10 etched on the blade. Always with me everywhere... Only wear and tear is the rubber on the side. 👍 Will buy a new one preferably same design. And I will keep this one for collection.
They are solid knives. 10? I'm guessing that would be 2010
A cork screw and nail file on a army knife are in my eyes not usual haha But this newest Bundeswehr army knife is really great. I have his cousin the the newest Dutch army knife knive also made Victorinox. Wich I really love. The one-hand opening system is really great. These Victorinox knives are life time quality companions.
I have one of the old German army knifes from the 1980s and it does not have the nail file on the sawblae and there was no cover included for the saw. I also have a newer version of this knife made by FOX from Italy, which indeed has the nail file on the side of the sawblade and was including the thin metal cover for the saw.
Very interesting to see the differences in those military issue knives. I have the One Hand Trekker civi version. I couldn’t find the non serrated version and think it’s discontinued, so I just reprofiled the main blade. It’s a really useful folder. The reamer is very sturdy. The little wood-saw is very capable and handy with carving notches and such.
Hello Tobias,
Thumb 17😊.
Have a nice day & stay healthy🙏
Best regards
Joe
The blade wobble bugs those of us with OCD . I purchased one a few years back and returned it for one without vertical play on the lock. However after looking at several , yes you are correct they all have it. I was dissapointed, but kept the first one and moved on. It's because the kershaw thru benchmade and Spyderco's made our standards on locking being "zero play". But even the old bucks and case knives have issues in this same price point however collectors choose to look the other way with those knives because they are considered part of the character each knife has.
I thionk the other thing is, I've used knives with a little wobble all my life and it just never really occurred to me that pocket knives didn't do that. Even locking blades had some play. I guess i just had too many inexpensive knives growing up!
wow, great collection. The black US one is really neat. probably rare too.
These 111mm GAKs are now hard to find in the UK! The last ones new I saw were on Amazon and I picked up a couple. A swiss friend told me that contrary to what's said the majority of troops don't actually bother with the issue knife given to them ! Most prefer Leatherman waves? The British army don't issue knives anymore either! And for a time gave out SOGs multitools! I have to admit I'm now a fan of the 08 soldier but hated it at first!
Thank you for the terrific review. I have the old soldier issue knife, and believe this is an upgrade. I first purchased a 2017 version, but over a couple years, the softer rubber in the handle broke away. That said, I recommend the German issue with a solid handle. I would have rather had the Swiss version, but the German issue is more durable.
Nice video. The Dutch military also use a version of the Victorinox knife. Have a look at one of those. You won’t be dissapointed.
I really need to expand my horizons and seek out Swiss Army Knives that have been officially adopted by different military services from around the world. The Dutch one is a classic
I love the Soldier. I had the US military one with black tools like yours for a while but was unfortunately forced to sell it. I’d love to get another one though
Correction. Just bought a new one from Knife Center
Very good video. Thank you
Back in the 70's when I was in the guard I actually ordered a couple of those SS utility knives through the national stock number system back then they were made by Camilis
Good day! All of them are good knives,but as a civilian i prefferd the swiss knife with a puller to remove easly shrapnels while in mountain or danger situation.from PH.
In the USAF we bought our own leatherman or gerbers
Same in the Army, If you needed a linesman kit, you signed one out of supply. But we bought our own knives, Might have been a peace time thing. I wasn't in during war time and never deployed to a combat zone. It might have been different in those circumstances.
I was issued a Leatherman in the early 1990's from supply (USAF). I don't recall if I had to return it when I retired.
@@georgelewis7154 I was in maintenance and of course we never were issued them due fod. I'm sure CE, Comm, SERE and the like could get them issued depending upon unit funds. A sweeping generalinaction on my part.
@@jonniez62 You're right about the FOD issue. I was a 462 and if QA ever saw me use an unauthorized tool, such as a personal Leatherman, I would have been written up. I left it in my desk drawer.
I don't recall if the Leatherman had a NSN or a local stock number.
Very similar in the Marines. I used and still have my Victorinox Camper. Same with my Buck 112. In the late 70's before the Leatherman.
The Swiss-French and Swiss-Italian soldiers are issued the version with a cork screw…
I’ve been waiting for you!!!!!!
I admit it’s a VERY COOL looking knife. Thanks for the review.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Idk what you people are talking about.iv used rhis serrated blade to cut cardboard,wood,plastic zipties,meat,fruits, rubber hose paracord....serrations are fantastic and sharpen them with chainsaw round file
Thank you for the interesting video.
NSN stands for"Nato Stock Number" I spent 30 years in the Canadian Army Supply Branch, ie; 5110 is the stock class, 00, 01,21, etc = the Country and the remainder of the NSN is the part #
I see a bunch of people are ganging up. In the US and the UK it is known as a National Stock Number. It was originally called the Federal Stock Number
The US adapted the FSN by adding two numbers for country of origin. This new number became a standardized numbering system for member stations of NATO and other American Allies. It was originally known as a National Stock number and is still known as a National Stock Number in the US. Member Nations of NATO call it A NATO Stock. Number. I was a Supply Officer in the US Army. We never called it a NATO Stock Number.
Different Country, different name. Look it up.
What is a National Stock Number (NSN)? A National Stock Number (also known as a NATO Stock Number) is simply the official label applied to an item of supply that is repeatedly procured, stocked, stored, issued, and used throughout the federal supply system. It is a unique item identifying series of numbers.
@@KnifeChatswithTobias I'm with you... don't let them grind you down. I was on active duty 1972-1994 and it was always National Stock Number.
I love them old army knives seems like each one can tell a story!!!!!! Just love it thanks Tobias
I would want one, but I hate the serrated blades.
Hi, is serrated blade only option? Can this be home novice sharpened?
I have touched mine up twice. There are some good videos on this. The OHT was my first serated blade. It works for my purposes. In fact, the more I use it the more I like it.
I collect Victorinox Trailmaster knives, there is also an Irish Army issue model which is quite rare.
No way, never heard about the Irish one, how cool!
@@elflakeador09 they're quite rare
Do you know roughly when they were issued?
@@elflakeador09 I first saw them being issued in 2010, the last time in 2012.
@@MikeFoxtrot1 Wow that recently. That's interesting. Must look into that (I'm Irish!) Thanks ! 😎👍
Great video, thanks for posting! New sub. I also did a video on this knife when it came out, since I have been a Trekker fan since they first came out. Love the US marked knife and happy with the one I've had for a few years now.
Awesome video thanks
I have maybe 8 Trecker style knives, all are excellent knives, some slightly different, like the fireman, the sailor(?), and a couple with single blades, etc.
Wow thank you for the great video, a lot of information to be consumed here! By the way are you aware of the trailmaster and forester from vicotorinox? It seems that these knives have the exact same toolset but with different coloured scales, the forester comes with a corkscrew instead of the philips on the back and a normal blade instead of the 3/4 serated. Thank you again for this interesting video
The victorinox is great as a camping hiking tool, but fall short for the military, having no pliers. I'll keep my Gerber MP600 mt.
you can get the victorinox locksmith if you don't want the serrated blade, otherwise its the same
The Locksmith is a four layer knife and includes a metal file. It is an excellent choice.
I am thinking in get one since I lost my Sportsman. The Swiss version is the best option in Brazil since it is the only one that victorinox sells directly.
They are all the same knife, more or less at least blade wise. It's a good knife!
Interesting video, Tobias. Thanks. Not sure how I’d like that blade with serrations up front, but I guess there must be reasons.
I'm okay with the serrations as the knife is still very easy to sharpen and the serrations work quite well. Considering the intended purpose of the knife, it was probably a good compromise.
I've yet to get a Victorinox GAK. I have a few by Aitor, BEG and ICAR. As well as a Chinese clone by Mil Tec.
I have seen clomes of the new German Army knife by Mil tec and others. I wonder if the Bundeswehr will comission other manufacturers to make it.
As always, thank you.
The GAK is issued to every German soldier and carried. They were also issued next to each other during my time in the late 2000s. I was issued an old one. They were named "BW, stumpf"(dull) and "BW, scharf" sharp moking German item designations.
Thanks for the info. Did you have to turn them back in after enlistment or were they yours to keep?
@@KnifeChatswithTobias Yes, had to turn it back. Could have "lost" it and pay the time value.
If I use the saw in the US knife,definitely the black oxide will be gone just with one time of use,this knife will sit in my window display instead. I'm not complaining to you,just FYI,and for others.
The wear and tear makes it look cool 😎
As far as the coating goes, it's actually a burnished coating not an oxide coating, you shouldn't have any wear issues with the coating, Victorinox makes the same coating on the Swisstool and Swisstool Spirit.
Thanks for the info. Nice to know it should hold up well. I need to give it a go!
Hey Al, have u ever had problems with the coating of your US combat utility knife? Mine is 6 months old. I use it once to unscrew a Phillips screw,and the tip of mi knife got peeled off. Yesterday I split my sandwich in half, which was wrapped in aluminum foil, guess what, my damm knife blade got all scratched up, what a dissapointment, I wouldn't dare to use the saw or other tools now. I think this knife was made just for looks and sit on your desk. What a pity. No problems with yours? Any idea how to replace the coating? My knife is original swiss army.
@@davicog8235 Victorinox does have a lifetime warranty, you can always send it back to them and they would fix or replace what's necessary. Folks I know who have these tools haven't had any issues with theirs, including several hard users. Personally scratches and whatnot are part of the look of a used tool, it is a tool after all.
Funfact. The new GAK does not comply with German Weapon laws for being one handed, so soldiers are not allowed to carry it ourside of service hours.
That is simply hilarious and ludicrous. Sounds like something Americans would do. When I was stationed in Germany, we had soldiers who could drink in town but not in the club on post. They were too young! LOL
@@KnifeChatswithTobias That's bizarre about the drinking. I was stationed in Germany in the British Army, and we were subject to military law off-base too.
The black looks cool but the stainless steel stays clean, if you scratch the stainless steel you can buff it out nice knives
I just saw this in my Smokey Mountain Knife Works catalog and decided to watch some video reviews on it. Looks nice. Just wish it had a belt clip.
All soldiers in germany have this Victorinox Knive the german Name is BW scharf translated into English it says Bw sharp:BW=BUNDESWEHR=German Army
Thanks for the information and thanks for watching!
@@KnifeChatswithTobias "Sharp" is a joke. The former knive was many years in service and german soldiers were mostly draftee
d being 12-24 months in service. So after 1995 you had to get along with a knive in a bad condition used by 6 or 8 even 10 draftees before
It was extremely difficult to get the first couple of years as it was only available by ordering it through the military number. Now it is popping up everywhere.
That's a fact. I'm glad I waited as the price was also down right ridiculous!
NSN stands for nato stock number not national
See the pinned note concerning NSN. Either term is correct. In the US and numerous Non-NATO nations it’s a National Stock Number.
Very informative thx
Glad it was helpful!
I need to get all of those, lol, thanks for sharing
I'm not a gigantic knife fanatic but your video would be a lot more interesting if you gave us information on why they felt the need to have a corkscrew..... what did they just need to fill a space in the knife and the corkscrew just happened to be the perfect size or does the army do a lot of wine drinking
Well Europeans are very fond of wine....but I believe there are other uses to the screw, but unknown to me
My Swiss soldier is marked 20(10)....😍
Great knives, but I still prefer the non serrated blade that comes on my one hand Trekker. The serrations just don’t work as well now as a civilian just playing in the woods.
can you post a link to where you got it? i really don't want a serrated blade
Sir, i love your video. But i have a question. What knife has the better handles? German or new soldier?
I actually don't mind the half serrated blade. Funny enough it's actually harder to find the standard one handed trekker than it is for these models.
You are so right about that! I've been looking for a red one and I'm about to just do a scale swap!