I tell yah, as a Canadian working in a tool room and total gun nut, this was like PORN to me I couldn't get my cellphone close enough to my face. Beautiful work crew you have, really nice you're keeping people working. Amazing and I could only WISH
What I find beside the beauty of the machining and the quality product in the end is the awesome fact that the man in the wheelchair is capable of, AND doing MORE, than many I know who have ZERO inhibitions, Sadly, they have chosen to do nothing but wait for a FREE RIDE. YOU my friend are a fantastic human being and a great worker, an asset to the company by all means ! Kudos to you....
@@NielsenGunPartsDK That is fantastic ! Just watching the video, you can see (and feel) his determination, machine know how and ability to do ANYTHING, he wishes to do. He has my utmost respect as does the company and workers. You have a great captain in the wheelhouse ! Maybe if I start saving now, I can afford one of his designs down the road.
Thoroughly enjoyed watching! It is such a pity that Australian laws prohibit these excellent products you produce. I am glad that I have one on my firearm in N.Z.
@@NielsenGunPartsDK hai I'm from Philippines I want to buy silencer of R4 RIFFLE korean model 5.56 mm bullet ... I'm a soldier I need it ASAP.. how much I pay?? I hope it's not so expensive 😣😣..
Great Video.... YEARS late, I know but one question; How do they ensure the bore is running true with the axis of the machine when threading the muzzle just by chucking the outside of the barrel? I've been taught to get the bore indicated to within 0.0002" (yes, two tenths) when chambering AND crowning. I've seen bores run way out, when the O.D. of the barrel is running true.....
i hate how perfect everything is! ;) curious tho- no filler rod required on the tig weld? i'm just beginning my tig welding courses and learning- i thought filler was needed for tig- ready to be educated :)
Hola. Tengo un aire comprimido de quiebre COMETA, cal. .22 ( 5.5 ) RESORTE. Me interesa un SILENCIADOR para ese Rifle. Donde puedo adquirirlo en la Republica Argentina ???? Gracias. Muy interesante la tecnologia aplicada a su producción. Felicitaciones.
Hi! We are also from Europe - we are a Danish manufacturer and we have distributors in most of Europe (France, Germany, Switzerland, Poland, Norwary, Lithuania and Ireland - and Iceland) and more are coming as silencers become legal to use in more and more countries
Do you know anyone in the phillippines or china that seññs the full auto switch for glocks ??? Im trying to get one from china vut I cant find them. They are like $20 in aluminium. Any info i will thank you.
It’s sad that it’s next to impossible to get a firearm in Europe, but no issue to get a suppressor. While it’s next to impossible to get a suppressor in the States, but no issue to get the firearm. Come on Governor Abbot! Sign that suppressor bill! Great video, too bad I’ll probably never get a chance to buy one. Love the design.
To make it work you must use subsonic ammo otherwise the projectile will break the sound brier . on a .22 rim fire that is the crack you hear when you fie a round !!!!
these are for hunting, so the prey animal will hear the bullet 'crack' but not the muzzle report, thus cannot tell direction of fire/whence it came....so you can shoot a far tree (or with hogs, the furthest hog away), the prey animals (or sounder of hogs) will hear that impact and come toward you offering a better, closer shot.
Hello i have a Sonic 35 but i have no Key to be able to strip the sound moderator where can i buy such a tool ?, I have the 35 on my cz527v 17Hornet and i am very impressed with it .
Hi Manchap karM, we're very happy to hear that you are pleased with your silencer. A key should be available who the vendor who sold you the silencer, or at least they can order them from us. They can also order the heat-resistant sealant paste we use for the threading. Can I ask why you want to take it apart? We dont generally recommend it.
Thank you i bought it second hand and i really just wanted to clean it , not sure how many rounds it has had through it . Many thanks for your reply , I have tested this Sonic 35 against a couple of other sound moderators and been down range of them all the sonic came out the best and quietest. Thanks for a great product .
@@manchapkarm3626 Thanks, it's great that you compared it with other products available! Regarding maintenance, we recommend unscrewing the silencer from your rifle and giving the silencer a light spray of WD40 in the backend. For cleaning, shooting enough rounds on a shooting range for it to become hot will generally burn off most soot inside it. Of course, you should not fire excessive rounds - just enough for it to become hot.
Hi AldoSchmedack, Thanks for an interesting question. The machining times are approximately: 1 minutes per front module (7 total), 3 minutes for the back end, 4 minutes for the inner tube and 30 seconds per insert in the front end pieces. Thus, a total of about 16 minutes and 30 seconds machining time. Assembly adds about 5 minutes of man-hours total. Of course, there's a bit of added handling related to having the pieces anodized by a third party as well. Particularly, the use of hi-tech machinery means that machining can be done largely unsupervised and that tolerances are very precise, thus limiting the need for manual measurements. It all adds up to a rather time-efficient process. I hope this answers your question!
@@NielsenGunPartsDK That is amazing! I never get tired of seeing CNC at work. CNC, auto load, auto measure and auto tool swap have to be the greatest 20th century inventions ever. My 1st supressor should be approved at the begining of the next year. Can't wait to ditch the ear muffs when doing 22lr. TY for the info!
The mfg in the next town over uses Haas CNCs exclusively and a monocore design..... Anyway after retiring from programming/running machines for 30 years, this was fun to watch.
Hi Apollo Abao, If silencers are legal in the Phillipines it would certainly be possible to export them. But without a general importer of a larger quantity, it would be very expensive in shipping. Many times the value of the silencer itself.
I just ordered my sonic for my 30.06 rifle. After watching your vid I have a question. How does it impact the velocity and distance after cutting the barrel 14cm shorter? Surely a longer traveling bullet will be more accurate?
Hi Leon, unfortunately we do not have any hard statistical data to show you. However, it is safe to say from testing that the bullet does not suffer any significant loss of momentum. While the accuracy does drop somewhat this drop is negligble within the distances of hunting and may at most result in a few centimeter of scattering at 300m. Thus you are right; cutting off 14 cm of the barrel does influence the accuracy and momentum of the bullet, but it does so to such a small degree that you would not notice it in an actual hunting situation. Apologies for a slow reply and congratulations with your new silencer, we hope it'll be of good use.
A barrel that is 14cm longer is not really any more accurate, but what the shorter barrel will do is reduce the velocity of the rounds leaving the barrel, therefor reducing it's range, but also increasing the time of travel which also slightly increases the associated effects of wind. However, a shorter barrel is not inherently less accurate then a longer one. If both were fired on a perfect windless range, the only measurable difference would be range.
There can be some loss of distance with a shorter barrel, but it is typically easier to manufacture a short accurate barrel than it is a long accurate barrel. The longer the barrel, the beefier it has to be in order to control barrel whip, these oscillations which are called "harmonics" are easier to control in a shorter barrel. Therefore, all else being equal, the more accurate one, provided the projectile is stabilized properly is the shorter barrel. Length of barrel is not an enhancement to accuracy. It generally provides more speed, therefore more range. Very accurate longer barrels are substantially heavier than shorter ones not just because of length but because of the required increase in diameter necessary to mitigate whip.
Hi Tony, The barrel does get crowned, but perhaps it is a little hard to see in the process within the machine. However, the shot were grease is being applied to the thread clearly shows the slight concave crowning. :) The only instance where we do not make a crowning, is when the total length of thw barrel is being retained. In that case the old crowning remains.
@@richardturner6981 None, it doesn't make a bank sound? I already merely makes a piff sound? Big bullet but no bang, no smoke? Confusing me... all rifles are "air" rifles, it is what makes the "air" or expanding gases that require the sound damping characteristics. I don't know anything about "air" rifles but aren't they driven by compressed air? I guess you could have a "gas" charge that is ignited by a spark making an explosive force... what is the sound level of that type of setup? 80 dB, 120 dB? Is this merely an easy, cheap, way to punch holes in paper? Seriously, I am not making fun of the sport "sounds" as it would be fun with fewer hassles from ATF etc. USe a common propane mixture? I think I've talked myself into checking this out more... to my knowledge people do make a flash suppressor for these types of machines. And anytime something screws onto a barrel it would seem the ATF/BATF would want their $500 and registration assessment... if no one does make them this company might consider making them for the .177 cal. (I don't know the metric of that size).
"A suppressed sound level as the barrel is shrouded and moderated." from the FX Boss .30 cal pcp web site. 870 fps, 80+ lbs of force at the mussel, 40 shots per charge. That sounds like a heck of a lot of fun, 1" grouping at `100 yards... that's better than I can do, my grouping would probably be about an 8-foot grouping at 100 feet.
+WangHangLow1 I see no one has answered this, and this is a bit late. But better late than never! If you'll notice, the very last operation the lathe does, after threading, is the crowning of the muzzle.
Hi ! I'm very impressed with your job . very neat and professional . I have a .22 lr Krico and would like to fit a silencer on it but at the end of the barrel can't thread as there is a front sight . May be you have solution to it e.g muzle adapter . I would be very pleased to hear from you . Thanks .
Thank you for the kind words. On a cal .22 you can move the sight 15 mm back in combination with making the threading. On a larger calibre the sight is removed altogether, as these silencers cover 12 - 14 cm of the end of the barrel. The silencer for a .22Lr only adds forward, therefore the sight just needs to be moved back a bit, as to make room for the threading. Hope this answers your question.
What is the approximate cost to have a .22 WMR Bull barrel threaded.By the way, your operation is stellar. I was amazed at how quickly the barrel got threaded. what was it 53 seconds? Smokin'.
gvet47 There is no "outer housing". Each piece is thredded and screwn together. We use rods rather than tubing due to the varying internal diameters of each segment. Another factor is that the aluminium tubing tend to vary slightly in thickness, making tubes unreliable. Tubes are also less resilliant in manufacturing, often causing problems in unsupervised bar-loaders. Therefore, we have to use rods. Gerry is also right that the price of rods vs tubes is basically equal. But of course we would machine less if possible. I hope this clears up any questions.
Hi Naaz, thanks for the question. In order to sell a silencer to a foreign reciever, a gun dealers license is required. In addition, an import permit from the receving country and an export permit from Denmark is also needed. (Even if you pick up the silencer directly from us..) In sum, unfortunately, it is a little complicated to sell silencers as many governments seem to find them to be very dangerous..
Problem with CNC, like all computers, Garbage in, Garbage out. But this setup looks effective. So why turn round stock into tubes? Material, time and energy waste.
Dear Bryan, Sorry for this late reply. We use rods rather than tubes for several reasons. One reason is that tubes tend to vary slightly in thickness, increasing the risk of the suppressor rupturing. By machining out a rod, we have total control of material strength through uniformity. Another reason is that the internal diameter of each segment vary greatly. One end of a segment has a vary large diameter, where the other end is rather narrow. This can be seen in the video as well. We are therefore not just mindlessly machining away aluminium for the sake of it, but because it, unfortunately, is necessary for a functionally great design with a rather low weight (many of our supressors are below 400 grams) I hope this answers your question.
@@NielsenGunPartsDK bryan s martin is right. your answers are just excuses for bad and lazy machining/engineering and poor production design, very wasteful. use slightly larger/thicker extruded tube, turn down outer, re-bore inner. job done.
@@paulforster6229 Hi Paul, Sorry, but a "slightly thicker tube" does not solve the problem. Partly because the process of making a tube stretches the aluminum locally and partly because we need part of each component to have a small diameter. Of course, we could circumvent the last problem with more threaded joints, but that is not really smarter or better as it introduces new problems of its own. All in all, I actually think we have some general idea of what we are doing. :)
@@NielsenGunPartsDK Making bar stock also introduces 'stretch'. So? Choice of alloys and post processing can deal with 'stretching' etc. I didn't say you don't know what you are doing, overall, I just pointed out I was agreeing about how wasteful your 'solid bar' machining was. And it could easily be revisited and designed out. Pre-drawn/pressed/cast/annealed/aged then machined would be more economical, and deal with the 'small dia' problem, at the expense of probably more operations, but less wasteful of feed-stock. Injection casting is really fast and accurate for pre-forms, minimal post-cast machining deals with the rest of the process. Only two threads per component, and one insert. Less waste; much of which you could re-cycle/re-use on site.
WIth the typical German (over) engineering involved and the amount of steps and work involved the final product is impressive. I'm surprised it does not double as a microwave generator or cutting laser. James Bond would want one. Its not fair you guys make all the cool stuff. Awesome! Wish I could afford one.
they look to be sick mufflers! but where i live, the understanding is... things like that make a firearm a million times more lethal and dangerous... did i mention how silent and ammoless a knife is? and there is a million stores that sell them, i dont know of any place i could purchase a supressor but i am a queenslander, the most oppressive place on the face of the planet!
SA Sportsgood Manufacturing in Adelaide used to make them. I think they are still available in WA. Visit a few good fox shooters and they will let you in on the secret! I used a .22 "flash arrestor" from Adelaide on my Anchutz .22 hornet. Worked exceptionally well specially on a windy night. Good luck!
7:19 the smile on the guys face after measuring the threads!!! Give that guy a raise...oh is the brunette with the glasses single? Asking for a friend 😁
"and youre not counting on anything here of cures" I don't know what that means. And I beg to differ that you can count on the bore being in the center of the barrel. Form what I understand, it being in the center is not the thing they (barrel manufacturers) worry about the most, it's that it's STRAIGHT. Also, from what I have read, modern barrels DO come with out of concentric bores.
Seth Watson The threading shown in this clip is made on a barrel of recognized quality, in which the bore is both straight and concentric. However it is correct that there are barrels of lesser quality and manufacture, in which the bore may be excentric, and occasionally even slightly curved. These barrels are controlled and centerede prior to threading. Furtheremore, all barrels are visually inspected after the threading. Concentricity (or excentricity) can, with experience, be determined by looking through the bore. It is worth mentioning that less than 1 in 100 barrels are so poorly centerede that they require adjustment. These statements, and the statistics, are based on well beyond 3000 mountings of rifles of varying manufacturer and quality. As an added safety precaution, the diameter of the internal hole of the silencer is made 1 mm larger than the diameter of the caliber for which it is sold. Thus even if the bore should be excentric in such a slight degree that it is not apparently visible, the added diameter will allow for the projectile to clear the silencer. Thank you for pointing this out for clarification. Kind regards.
Your factory is so quiet! Get it? But, all joking aside, I appreciate all of the actual hands-on work, and the end product is very good. I'll have to find some vids on their use. Thanx!
HAHA! My wife walked by asking me what I was watching?...I said porn! she grabbed the laptop and saw this video and called me a machining geek! She knows me well... G>
gerry mckown - don’t even insult our intelligence,you were watching Porn and and who doesn’t ? ? - it’s perfectly Normal to want to see a beautiful Nude Woman ! !
Sonic Silencers Yes they are but you could still send me one piece by piece I wouldn’t tell anyone. Name your price. It is only for personal use for a rabbit plague
@@craigkaschan4822 Sorry, but for resons I hope are obvious, we have no interest in breaking any laws, nor would we encourage anyone else to do so. However, we do sell our silencers in both South Africa and New Zealand..
Sonic Silencers Thanks for your reply. I understand it’s just frustrating here not being able to obtain or have the resources to make myself one. Keep up the good work maybe in a couple of decades our politicians will pull whatever it is out their asses and legalise them.
We should have legally available "sound reducers" available to everyone legally allowed to own a firearm here in America. We also need nationwide reciprocity.
@@bearly1727 they only dont exist to certain people in America, in the rest of the world it is a perfectly acceptable term. What is the name of one of the largest producers of silencer's I'm America, what were the ASA called until 2014 ,what was on maxim's patent. It has only recently been an issue because certain people dont like the term silencer, its similar to people saying assault rifles dont exist even when it is used in the correct context.
Hi "Fat Tuesday", Our Subsonic 22 weighs about 123 grams. Sadly, the modular design makes it impossible to operate on the American market. Hopefully, it will be possible in the future.
+Sonic Silencers he's trying to say you've probably never even seen a gun in real life and think silencers work like in the movies because you play too many video games. whereas he's so smart he knows it's really a suppressor because no gun can be silent. lol keep up the quality work guys, if I wasn't years into IT I'd be machining. really want to get a taig mill or even harbor freight lathe and mess around at home.
Yes, silencer. The guy who INVENTED it, Hiram Maxim, named it the silencer in his original patents and ads. It's a silencer first and foremost. "Suppressor" was a term adopted after the fact and not used by Maxim. People that try to correct others for calling it a silencer just look like fools who don't know the history of the item they're discussing. Try harder.
Not sure we're familiar with that particular movie, but we'll take it as a compliment as most of our workforce has been with us from the very beginning. :)
Is this company still in business? If so, is it possible to buy directly from manufacturer? Looking for a Sonic 35 with 1/2"x28 thread. The norwegian Sonic dealer has been out of stock for a year now.
Hi Rob, pleased to tell you that we're still very much in business. It does not sound probable that he would be out of stock for that long. If you place an order for a specific silencer with the norwegian retailer, that order should end with us and in turn the specific type of silencer and threading would be sent in the next shipment. Something must have gone horribly wrong in that process. Have you placed an order with the retailer or inquired in their shop? Buying directly from us is the preferred choice of many of our danish customers. However, we're confident that you should be able to get your silencer directly from the norwegian retailer.
Thank you for your reply :) I already have your Sonic 45, and i'm very pleased with it. Was looking to try the 35 for my .223 rifle. I will try to contact the norwegian dealer once more, but unfortunately i'm not holding my breath for a reply :/ I think your design and pricing makes it the best choice in the nordic market. Kind regards Rob
Thank you for the kind words Rob - we like to believe so too! If everything fails and you do not recieve a reply from the retailer, please feel free to contact us at Info@nielsengunparts.com. However, please reiterate the details of your situation in the e-mail, as it will not be the same person who responds to it.
I wish we could buy them without needing the tax stamp here in the U.S. There is no reason for it.There safer for your hearing reduce recoil and make shooting a lot more pleasant .
+duffys gunsmithing Thank you very much. "The older gentlemen", he wont hear the end of this! Indeed, unfortunately US laws make the modular design extraordinarily expensive, as each segment requires a separate serial no. and permit.
Absolute crap blast suppressor! We here in america make the best there is in the world hands down! Ask anyone that actually use them everyday! Thats the real ticket right there.
Hi Robert, Excellent that you take pride in your country. However, independent tests do usually rank our products fairly high. Combine this with our close to unequivocal positive customer feedback and I do dare say that our products are far from "crap". Though, untill it is possible to import our products to the U. S. we will not be able to let the U. S. customers speak for themselves. We do, however, often get e-mails from U. S. citizens who tried our products in other countries, asking if if we can ship silencers to the U. S. :)
I tell yah, as a Canadian working in a tool room and total gun nut, this was like PORN to me I couldn't get my cellphone close enough to my face. Beautiful work crew you have, really nice you're keeping people working. Amazing and I could only WISH
I have a Sonic 45 on my .308 and a 35 on my .22 - Absolutely love the quality of the construction and the performance.
You know when the music starts playing and your cutting, it is going to be some cool stuff......
Bellssimo Video con macchinari d'avanguardia.
Complimenti!
You guys are flat out perfectionists! I’d feel proud to purchase one or more of your units!
Thank you that was unexpectedly calming and satisfying. And a great product.
What I find beside the beauty of the machining and the quality product in the end is the awesome fact that the man in the wheelchair is capable of, AND doing MORE, than many I know who have ZERO inhibitions, Sadly, they have chosen to do nothing but wait for a FREE RIDE.
YOU my friend are a fantastic human being and a great worker, an asset to the company by all means ! Kudos to you....
Hi Dave,
You'll be glad to hear that he is actually the designer, engineer, machinist and manager of the company.
@@NielsenGunPartsDK That is fantastic ! Just watching the video, you can see (and feel) his determination, machine know how and ability to do ANYTHING, he wishes to do. He has my utmost respect as does the company and workers. You have a great captain in the wheelhouse ! Maybe if I start saving now, I can afford one of his designs down the road.
It's cool that James May found a job assembling silencers after the Grand Tour...
Beautiful machining and impressive design. I wish I could get one into the USA.
Thoroughly enjoyed watching! It is such a pity that Australian laws prohibit these excellent products you produce. I am glad that I have one on my firearm in N.Z.
Hey guys Ray from Thunder Beast Arms here in the USA. Cool video
Hi Ray, glad you like the video. Thanks for stopping by.
@@NielsenGunPartsDK hai I'm from Philippines I want to buy silencer of R4 RIFFLE korean model 5.56 mm bullet ... I'm a soldier I need it ASAP.. how much I pay?? I hope it's not so expensive 😣😣..
Great Video.... YEARS late, I know but one question; How do they ensure the bore is running true with the axis of the machine when threading the muzzle just by chucking the outside of the barrel? I've been taught to get the bore indicated to within 0.0002" (yes, two tenths) when chambering AND crowning. I've seen bores run way out, when the O.D. of the barrel is running true.....
es de alta perfeccion vuestro trabajo los felicito un saludo desde Chile un cazador ,una consulta tienen algun distribuidor en Chile ?????
i hate how perfect everything is! ;) curious tho- no filler rod required on the tig weld? i'm just beginning my tig welding courses and learning- i thought filler was needed for tig- ready to be educated :)
He's just fusing the parts together but u probably already know this if the 2 surfaces are together that close u don't need filler
ਬਹੁਤ ਵਧੀਆ ਅਤੇ ਸ਼ਾਨਦਾਰ ਵੀਡੀਓ ਹੈ
Thank you 😊
Great video. Very Professional. I enjoy seeing Lady workers and older Gentlemen working for your company. Thank you.
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Just bought mine here in New Zealand can't wait to take it shooting!
How much the price of your sonic silencer pls give me an idea,,
So cool watching this guy work nice art to have .
Whoops lady to.
Would the sonic35 suit a .308win rifle?
Hola. Tengo un aire comprimido de quiebre COMETA, cal. .22 ( 5.5 ) RESORTE. Me interesa un SILENCIADOR para ese Rifle. Donde puedo adquirirlo en la Republica Argentina ????
Gracias.
Muy interesante la tecnologia aplicada a su producción. Felicitaciones.
Can I order it in parts and assemble by myself?
Mi meraviglia che con tutti questi macchinari non teniate in conto che lo paro è una espansione globulare
E che dopo lo svuotamento della canna vi sia il ritorno di riempimento fino alla apertura dell' otturatore
Where is this available. Im in europe !!!! 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
Hi!
We are also from Europe - we are a Danish manufacturer and we have distributors in most of Europe (France, Germany, Switzerland, Poland, Norwary, Lithuania and Ireland - and Iceland) and more are coming as silencers become legal to use in more and more countries
@@NielsenGunPartsDK do you have this pice ??? The glk switch ???
@@NielsenGunPartsDK Im looking for the pice in the video and also for the full auto switch for glock.
How can i get one for my 5.56 bolt action?
From Philippines i am.
Thanks!
Do you know anyone in the phillippines or china that seññs the full auto switch for glocks ??? Im trying to get one from china vut I cant find them. They are like $20 in aluminium. Any info i will thank you.
Where can these be purchased in the USA?
How much the 1 silencer... how to order.. from philippines.
How much the price? Can i buy? Watching from Philippines.
It’s sad that it’s next to impossible to get a firearm in Europe, but no issue to get a suppressor. While it’s next to impossible to get a suppressor in the States, but no issue to get the firearm. Come on Governor Abbot! Sign that suppressor bill!
Great video, too bad I’ll probably never get a chance to buy one. Love the design.
To make it work you must use subsonic ammo otherwise the projectile will break the sound brier . on a .22 rim fire that is the crack you hear when you fie a round !!!!
these are for hunting, so the prey animal will hear the bullet 'crack' but not the muzzle report, thus cannot tell direction of fire/whence it came....so you can shoot a far tree (or with hogs, the furthest hog away), the prey animals (or sounder of hogs) will hear that impact and come toward you offering a better, closer shot.
How to purchase?
Hello i have a Sonic 35 but i have no Key to be able to strip the sound moderator where can i buy such a tool ?, I have the 35 on my cz527v 17Hornet and i am very impressed with it .
Hi Manchap karM, we're very happy to hear that you are pleased with your silencer. A key should be available who the vendor who sold you the silencer, or at least they can order them from us. They can also order the heat-resistant sealant paste we use for the threading. Can I ask why you want to take it apart? We dont generally recommend it.
Thank you i bought it second hand and i really just wanted to clean it , not sure how many rounds it has had through it .
Many thanks for your reply , I have tested this Sonic 35 against a couple of other sound moderators and been down range of them all the sonic came out the best and quietest.
Thanks for a great product .
@@manchapkarm3626 Thanks, it's great that you compared it with other products available! Regarding maintenance, we recommend unscrewing the silencer from your rifle and giving the silencer a light spray of WD40 in the backend. For cleaning, shooting enough rounds on a shooting range for it to become hot will generally burn off most soot inside it. Of course, you should not fire excessive rounds - just enough for it to become hot.
Thank you i never fire that many to get it hot
I wont buy one silencer.. how i order.. how much.. silencer 45 Gun
I need one for Benjamin Discovery do you have one
How much the silencer
Great machines and super amazing.
How long does it take to make one of these when you add up all the processes involved?
Hi AldoSchmedack,
Thanks for an interesting question. The machining times are approximately: 1 minutes per front module (7 total), 3 minutes for the back end, 4 minutes for the inner tube and 30 seconds per insert in the front end pieces. Thus, a total of about 16 minutes and 30 seconds machining time. Assembly adds about 5 minutes of man-hours total. Of course, there's a bit of added handling related to having the pieces anodized by a third party as well.
Particularly, the use of hi-tech machinery means that machining can be done largely unsupervised and that tolerances are very precise, thus limiting the need for manual measurements. It all adds up to a rather time-efficient process.
I hope this answers your question!
@@NielsenGunPartsDK That is amazing! I never get tired of seeing CNC at work. CNC, auto load, auto measure and auto tool swap have to be the greatest 20th century inventions ever. My 1st supressor should be approved at the begining of the next year. Can't wait to ditch the ear muffs when doing 22lr. TY for the info!
To make it realy quiet use subsonic ammo CCI 610 ft. per sec .
Were silencers not forbidden in the USA..or was it an other country.. Would be nice to some awards winning data..like Decibel tests and compare
The mfg in the next town over uses Haas CNCs exclusively and a monocore design.....
Anyway after retiring from programming/running machines for 30 years, this was fun to watch.
Can this Sonic Silencer be transported in the Philippines?
Hi Apollo Abao,
If silencers are legal in the Phillipines it would certainly be possible to export them. But without a general importer of a larger quantity, it would be very expensive in shipping. Many times the value of the silencer itself.
I just ordered my sonic for my 30.06 rifle. After watching your vid I have a question. How does it impact the velocity and distance after cutting the barrel 14cm shorter? Surely a longer traveling bullet will be more accurate?
Hi Leon, unfortunately we do not have any hard statistical data to show you. However, it is safe to say from testing that the bullet does not suffer any significant loss of momentum. While the accuracy does drop somewhat this drop is negligble within the distances of hunting and may at most result in a few centimeter of scattering at 300m.
Thus you are right; cutting off 14 cm of the barrel does influence the accuracy and momentum of the bullet, but it does so to such a small degree that you would not notice it in an actual hunting situation.
Apologies for a slow reply and congratulations with your new silencer, we hope it'll be of good use.
A barrel that is 14cm longer is not really any more accurate, but what the shorter barrel will do is reduce the velocity of the rounds leaving the barrel, therefor reducing it's range, but also increasing the time of travel which also slightly increases the associated effects of wind. However, a shorter barrel is not inherently less accurate then a longer one. If both were fired on a perfect windless range, the only measurable difference would be range.
There can be some loss of distance with a shorter barrel, but it is typically easier to manufacture a short accurate barrel than it is a long accurate barrel. The longer the barrel, the beefier it has to be in order to control barrel whip, these oscillations which are called "harmonics" are easier to control in a shorter barrel. Therefore, all else being equal, the more accurate one, provided the projectile is stabilized properly is the shorter barrel. Length of barrel is not an enhancement to accuracy. It generally provides more speed, therefore more range. Very accurate longer barrels are substantially heavier than shorter ones not just because of length but because of the required increase in diameter necessary to mitigate whip.
With a conventional suppressor it actually increases fps
Where can i order and how much for .45 and M4?
Can't believe you don't crown the bore after cutting it..
Hi Tony,
The barrel does get crowned, but perhaps it is a little hard to see in the process within the machine. However, the shot were grease is being applied to the thread clearly shows the slight concave crowning. :)
The only instance where we do not make a crowning, is when the total length of thw barrel is being retained. In that case the old crowning remains.
What kind would I need if I have a FX boss .30 cal pcp air rifle?
Contact Crosman BB and Pellet pistols and rifles. I don't know if they sell them but, they can point you in the right direction i'm sure.
@@richardturner6981 None, it doesn't make a bank sound? I already merely makes a piff sound? Big bullet but no bang, no smoke? Confusing me... all rifles are "air" rifles, it is what makes the "air" or expanding gases that require the sound damping characteristics. I don't know anything about "air" rifles but aren't they driven by compressed air? I guess you could have a "gas" charge that is ignited by a spark making an explosive force... what is the sound level of that type of setup? 80 dB, 120 dB? Is this merely an easy, cheap, way to punch holes in paper? Seriously, I am not making fun of the sport "sounds" as it would be fun with fewer hassles from ATF etc. USe a common propane mixture? I think I've talked myself into checking this out more... to my knowledge people do make a flash suppressor for these types of machines. And anytime something screws onto a barrel it would seem the ATF/BATF would want their $500 and registration assessment... if no one does make them this company might consider making them for the .177 cal. (I don't know the metric of that size).
"A suppressed sound level as the barrel is shrouded and moderated." from the FX Boss .30 cal pcp web site. 870 fps, 80+ lbs of force at the mussel, 40 shots per charge. That sounds like a heck of a lot of fun, 1" grouping at `100 yards... that's better than I can do, my grouping would probably be about an 8-foot grouping at 100 feet.
Question: I noticed you didn't crown your barrel... Has that affected the accuracy of the rifle with and without a suppressor?
The crowning was done at 6:51-6:55
+WangHangLow1 I see no one has answered this, and this is a bit late.
But better late than never!
If you'll notice, the very last operation the lathe does, after threading,
is the crowning of the muzzle.
Desable reduction test would be nice.
Hi ! I'm very impressed with your job . very neat and professional . I have a .22 lr Krico and would like to fit a silencer on it but at the end of the barrel can't thread as there is a front sight . May be you have solution to it e.g muzle adapter .
I would be very pleased to hear from you .
Thanks .
Thank you for the kind words.
On a cal .22 you can move the sight 15 mm back in combination with making the threading. On a larger calibre the sight is removed altogether, as these silencers cover 12 - 14 cm of the end of the barrel.
The silencer for a .22Lr only adds forward, therefore the sight just needs to be moved back a bit, as to make room for the threading.
Hope this answers your question.
What is the approximate cost to have a .22 WMR Bull barrel threaded.By the way, your operation is stellar. I was amazed at how quickly the barrel got threaded. what was it 53 seconds? Smokin'.
How can i buy this online and how much?
Depends where you live
Interesting the outer housing is machined from a solid rod rather than a DOM tube.
Tubing cut to I.D, and O,D, is more pricey then solid bar stock....crazy, but true at times!
gvet47 There is no "outer housing". Each piece is thredded and screwn together. We use rods rather than tubing due to the varying internal diameters of each segment. Another factor is that the aluminium tubing tend to vary slightly in thickness, making tubes unreliable. Tubes are also less resilliant in manufacturing, often causing problems in unsupervised bar-loaders.
Therefore, we have to use rods. Gerry is also right that the price of rods vs tubes is basically equal. But of course we would machine less if possible.
I hope this clears up any questions.
Sonic Silencers just liked watching anything being manufactured so thanks for your comments.
how could i get one out of your country? is their any procedure ?
Hi Naaz, thanks for the question. In order to sell a silencer to a foreign reciever, a gun dealers license is required. In addition, an import permit from the receving country and an export permit from Denmark is also needed. (Even if you pick up the silencer directly from us..)
In sum, unfortunately, it is a little complicated to sell silencers as many governments seem to find them to be very dangerous..
Got to love cnc machines!
Problem with CNC, like all computers, Garbage in, Garbage out. But this setup looks effective. So why turn round stock into tubes? Material, time and energy waste.
Dear Bryan,
Sorry for this late reply. We use rods rather than tubes for several reasons. One reason is that tubes tend to vary slightly in thickness, increasing the risk of the suppressor rupturing. By machining out a rod, we have total control of material strength through uniformity.
Another reason is that the internal diameter of each segment vary greatly. One end of a segment has a vary large diameter, where the other end is rather narrow. This can be seen in the video as well.
We are therefore not just mindlessly machining away aluminium for the sake of it, but because it, unfortunately, is necessary for a functionally great design with a rather low weight (many of our supressors are below 400 grams)
I hope this answers your question.
@@NielsenGunPartsDK bryan s martin is right. your answers are just excuses for bad and lazy machining/engineering and poor production design, very wasteful. use slightly larger/thicker extruded tube, turn down outer, re-bore inner. job done.
@@paulforster6229 Hi Paul,
Sorry, but a "slightly thicker tube" does not solve the problem. Partly because the process of making a tube stretches the aluminum locally and partly because we need part of each component to have a small diameter. Of course, we could circumvent the last problem with more threaded joints, but that is not really smarter or better as it introduces new problems of its own.
All in all, I actually think we have some general idea of what we are doing. :)
@@NielsenGunPartsDK Making bar stock also introduces 'stretch'. So? Choice of alloys and post processing can deal with 'stretching' etc. I didn't say you don't know what you are doing, overall, I just pointed out I was agreeing about how wasteful your 'solid bar' machining was. And it could easily be revisited and designed out.
Pre-drawn/pressed/cast/annealed/aged then machined would be more economical, and deal with the 'small dia' problem, at the expense of probably more operations, but less wasteful of feed-stock. Injection casting is really fast and accurate for pre-forms, minimal post-cast machining deals with the rest of the process. Only two threads per component, and one insert. Less waste; much of which you could re-cycle/re-use on site.
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Nice place to work
WIth the typical German (over) engineering involved and the amount of steps and work involved the final product is impressive. I'm surprised it does not double as a microwave generator or cutting laser. James Bond would want one. Its not fair you guys make all the cool stuff. Awesome! Wish I could afford one.
Boa tarde..... tenho um rifle 17 hmr e preciso de um silencioso. como faço para adquirir?
Very impressive
Hm your R4 silencer?
Very nice video !!!
How is this a silencer?
they look to be sick mufflers! but where i live, the understanding is... things like that make a firearm a million times more lethal and dangerous... did i mention how silent and ammoless a knife is? and there is a million stores that sell them, i dont know of any place i could purchase a supressor but i am a queenslander, the most oppressive place on the face of the planet!
SA Sportsgood Manufacturing in Adelaide used to make them. I think they are still available in WA. Visit a few good fox shooters and they will let you in on the secret! I used a .22 "flash arrestor" from Adelaide on my Anchutz .22 hornet. Worked exceptionally well specially on a windy night. Good luck!
7:19 the smile on the guys face after measuring the threads!!! Give that guy a raise...oh is the brunette with the glasses single? Asking for a friend 😁
A very late reply: The guy measuring the threads is the CEO, the brunette is his wife, sorry :)
Muy buen video, les agradezco
Any links about cleaning the sonic ????
What material aluminum you use?
Can you build me a silencer for my mother in law?
Its awesome what technology can do.
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Very cool
When they threaded the barrel, I didn't see them check the concentricity of the bore...
That is not the proper way. You cannot count on the bore being in the center of the barrel.
They had no problems with that so far, and youre not counting on anything here ofcures morden barrels are in center.
"and youre not counting on anything here of cures"
I don't know what that means. And I beg to differ that you can count on the bore being in the center of the barrel. Form what I understand, it being in the center is not the thing they (barrel manufacturers) worry about the most, it's that it's STRAIGHT. Also, from what I have read, modern barrels DO come with out of concentric bores.
Seth Watson
The threading shown in this clip is made on a barrel of recognized quality, in which the bore is both straight and concentric. However it is correct that there are barrels of lesser quality and manufacture, in which the bore may be excentric, and occasionally even slightly curved.
These barrels are controlled and centerede prior to threading. Furtheremore, all barrels are visually inspected after the threading. Concentricity (or excentricity) can, with experience, be determined by looking through the bore.
It is worth mentioning that less than 1 in 100 barrels are so poorly centerede that they require adjustment.
These statements, and the statistics, are based on well beyond 3000 mountings of rifles of varying manufacturer and quality.
As an added safety precaution, the diameter of the internal hole of the silencer is made 1 mm larger than the diameter of the caliber for which it is sold. Thus even if the bore should be excentric in such a slight degree that it is not apparently visible, the added diameter will allow for the projectile to clear the silencer.
Thank you for pointing this out for clarification.
Kind regards.
Ah. Very good, QC before the fact....
Your factory is so quiet! Get it? But, all joking aside, I appreciate all of the actual hands-on work, and the end product is very good. I'll have to find some vids on their use. Thanx!
Vende para o Brasil?
Qual o valor?
i need it for benjamín Discovery 177 from mexico
HAHA! My wife walked by asking me what I was watching?...I said porn! she grabbed the laptop and saw this video and called me a machining geek! She knows me well... G>
gerry mckown - don’t even insult our intelligence,you were watching Porn and and who doesn’t ? ? - it’s perfectly Normal to want to see a beautiful Nude Woman ! !
Do you ship to Australia
As far as we know, silencers are still illegal in Australia. Please correct us if we are wrong! You can contact us on: info@nielsengunparts.com
Sonic Silencers Yes they are but you could still send me one piece by piece I wouldn’t tell anyone. Name your price. It is only for personal use for a rabbit plague
@@craigkaschan4822 Sorry, but for resons I hope are obvious, we have no interest in breaking any laws, nor would we encourage anyone else to do so.
However, we do sell our silencers in both South Africa and New Zealand..
Sonic Silencers Thanks for your reply. I understand it’s just frustrating here not being able to obtain or have the resources to make myself one. Keep up the good work maybe in a couple of decades our politicians will pull whatever it is out their asses and legalise them.
@@craigkaschan4822 Are you an idiot? 🤣 "I won't tell anyone." Woooooow. 😂
excelent work, man,you got name?
We should have legally available "sound reducers" available to everyone legally allowed to own a firearm here in America. We also need nationwide reciprocity.
Do you mean "Silencer's"?
@@jizzmonkey9679 I used the term used in the video and the correct term used in America is Suppressors. Silencers really don't exist.
@@bearly1727 they only dont exist to certain people in America, in the rest of the world it is a perfectly acceptable term.
What is the name of one of the largest producers of silencer's I'm America, what were the ASA called until 2014 ,what was on maxim's patent.
It has only recently been an issue because certain people dont like the term silencer, its similar to people saying assault rifles dont exist even when it is used in the correct context.
QUERO UM DESTE PARA MINHA CBC 22
What is the weight of the .22 airgun x 28 thread model? And is there a retail outlet in the USA?
Hi "Fat Tuesday",
Our Subsonic 22 weighs about 123 grams. Sadly, the modular design makes it impossible to operate on the American market. Hopefully, it will be possible in the future.
Silencer?
Spoon tan Silencer. ( en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silencer_(firearms) )
+Sonic Silencers he's trying to say you've probably never even seen a gun in real life and think silencers work like in the movies because you play too many video games.
whereas he's so smart he knows it's really a suppressor because no gun can be silent. lol
keep up the quality work guys, if I wasn't years into IT I'd be machining. really want to get a taig mill or even harbor freight lathe and mess around at home.
Yes, silencer. The guy who INVENTED it, Hiram Maxim, named it the silencer in his original patents and ads. It's a silencer first and foremost. "Suppressor" was a term adopted after the fact and not used by Maxim. People that try to correct others for calling it a silencer just look like fools who don't know the history of the item they're discussing. Try harder.
Como faço e comprar
Happy workers! Just like the workforce in the film Mousehunt !
Not sure we're familiar with that particular movie, but we'll take it as a compliment as most of our workforce has been with us from the very beginning. :)
@@NielsenGunPartsDK hola quisiera saber el precio de un silenciador cal 22LR
I hope, guy on TIG welding operation got good protective gloves and ventilation :)
He should be wearing a "Tig Finger". Or two.
Wow.. amazing
Is this company still in business? If so, is it possible to buy directly from manufacturer? Looking for a Sonic 35 with 1/2"x28 thread. The norwegian Sonic dealer has been out of stock for a year now.
Hi Rob, pleased to tell you that we're still very much in business. It does not sound probable that he would be out of stock for that long. If you place an order for a specific silencer with the norwegian retailer, that order should end with us and in turn the specific type of silencer and threading would be sent in the next shipment. Something must have gone horribly wrong in that process. Have you placed an order with the retailer or inquired in their shop?
Buying directly from us is the preferred choice of many of our danish customers. However, we're confident that you should be able to get your silencer directly from the norwegian retailer.
Thank you for your reply :) I already have your Sonic 45, and i'm very pleased with it.
Was looking to try the 35 for my .223 rifle.
I will try to contact the norwegian dealer once more, but unfortunately i'm not holding my breath for a reply :/
I think your design and pricing makes it the best choice in the nordic market.
Kind regards
Rob
Thank you for the kind words Rob - we like to believe so too!
If everything fails and you do not recieve a reply from the retailer, please feel free to contact us at Info@nielsengunparts.com. However, please reiterate the details of your situation in the e-mail, as it will not be the same person who responds to it.
I wish we could buy them without needing the tax stamp here in the U.S. There is no reason for it.There safer for your hearing reduce recoil and make shooting a lot more pleasant .
I have one and its same product of U.S cal.45.
HOW MUCH 22CL.
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I need it for saiga niner...5.45 in ak 47 shape...
omg , youve got Rick Wakeman screwing silencers together ,,,
no sonic silencers for you usa : ( awesome video !! would have nice to see the older gentlemen testfire at the end.
+duffys gunsmithing Thank you very much. "The older gentlemen", he wont hear the end of this!
Indeed, unfortunately US laws make the modular design extraordinarily expensive, as each segment requires a separate serial no. and permit.
+Sonic Silencers I wonder how Silencerco got around that with their modular shotgun suppressor? (the Salvo 12)
Rugged Suppressors as well.
You're completely wrong Duffy. Silencers are legal in 40 states.
@Paul I think Duffy meant to say the Brand Sonic Silencer is not available to the US market. Not that we can't own them here in the States.
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Wish I own one..
Bendangwati Longkumer - buy one or make one i did.on UA-cam there are tutorial on ‘ How To ‘ about silencers,and just about everything else ! !
Absolute crap blast suppressor! We here in america make the best there is in the world hands down! Ask anyone that actually use them everyday! Thats the real ticket right there.
Hi Robert,
Excellent that you take pride in your country. However, independent tests do usually rank our products fairly high. Combine this with our close to unequivocal positive customer feedback and I do dare say that our products are far from "crap".
Though, untill it is possible to import our products to the U. S. we will not be able to let the U. S. customers speak for themselves. We do, however, often get e-mails from U. S. citizens who tried our products in other countries, asking if if we can ship silencers to the U. S. :)
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