Cairn Review - Tactical Druid Rugby Chess

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  • Опубліковано 21 лип 2020
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  • @stumbling
    @stumbling 4 роки тому +71

    Fun fact: Cairn dogs are actually made up of lots of tiny little dogs.

  • @MinimumViablePicnic
    @MinimumViablePicnic 4 роки тому +221

    I'm loving chess month, I'm pregnant and stuck in the house, no chance (or energy) to break out the usual epic games! These two player games are just perfect for me and fella. Also hoping to have one more game of War of the Ring before the baby lands and we never have the time or energy again!

    • @jamesmccarthy962
      @jamesmccarthy962 4 роки тому +5

      Which side do you normally play the fellowship or Sauron?

    • @MinimumViablePicnic
      @MinimumViablePicnic 4 роки тому +10

      @@jamesmccarthy962 I play Sauron, hubby plays The fellowship. I like big armies, he likes big strategies 🙂

    • @jamesmccarthy962
      @jamesmccarthy962 4 роки тому +3

      @@MinimumViablePicnic Ace (: Hope you win

    • @muhammadhaider7687
      @muhammadhaider7687 4 роки тому +3

      I think I'm gonna need to have to get married just to have someone to play war of the ring with.

    • @MinimumViablePicnic
      @MinimumViablePicnic 4 роки тому +8

      @@muhammadhaider7687 literally that and pandemic legacy 2 was our whole honeymoon lol

  • @andrewdecker2123
    @andrewdecker2123 4 роки тому +44

    Matt: I'm not sure why it's called Cairn, cairn is a big stack of rocks
    Matt, just earlier: you can have potentially SIX rocks stacking effects over and over that make really intense moves

  • @LukeSperk
    @LukeSperk 4 роки тому +12

    "When you're holding a bishop, everything looks like a knight" had me rolling

  • @DragoonBoom
    @DragoonBoom 4 роки тому +20

    Cairn, as in a game about layering on more and more turns until the structure of the game is so complex that one person with inevitably make a mistake, not unlike stacking rocks like a reverse jenga.

  • @darkomaver
    @darkomaver 4 роки тому +217

    This seems like the Druid cousin of Onitama with rocks in the way ...

    • @lavtekk2086
      @lavtekk2086 4 роки тому +17

      I was just about to say the exact same thing. Literally, you took the words from me.

    • @stefanopaolini6117
      @stefanopaolini6117 4 роки тому +4

      That's correct, but it feels a bit deeper with more space and more twists

    • @jordancanon-kruis8555
      @jordancanon-kruis8555 4 роки тому +21

      I was going to say that it seems like a mix between Onitama and The Duke

    • @WoodlandDrake
      @WoodlandDrake 4 роки тому +7

      I was just about to mention Onitama, that game rocks.

    • @awesomerhino8008
      @awesomerhino8008 4 роки тому

      and it even has a smaller box...

  • @NoMuse13
    @NoMuse13 4 роки тому +107

    Nothing like getting deep game analysis from a totally mad homeless person

  • @Andalosity
    @Andalosity 3 роки тому +8

    This is why I love Shut Up and Sit Down. Cairn would have been nowhere near my radar because of it's geek rating if not for this, and now I'm going to buy it.

  • @otakuribo
    @otakuribo 4 роки тому +57

    I aspire to Matt's level of manic

  • @alasdairgoudie9459
    @alasdairgoudie9459 4 роки тому +234

    This was a wonderful story about a man having to be a twig for years.

  • @superomelet2897
    @superomelet2897 4 роки тому +7

    I see echoes of Onitama and maybe a little bit of Tash-Kalar (summoning new entrants, positioning multiple pieces for future moves).
    A great and fun review as always. I'd love to give this one a try.

  • @oliverhaberstock4958
    @oliverhaberstock4958 4 роки тому +33

    Oh, a new Christian Martinez game? I’m sold already

  • @MozilloGames
    @MozilloGames 4 роки тому +57

    I've slowly come to realise that Matagot are a great publisher that create games with JUST the right amount of nice fluff to them that they become fun toys to interact with, without being bloated or mega-expensive.

  • @saiya00
    @saiya00 4 роки тому +25

    Should have been called Menhir. For some reason I think it might have been fun to give it an Asterix and Obelix theme.

    • @dhmcarver
      @dhmcarver 3 роки тому

      Love seeing an Asterix reference!

  • @danopticon
    @danopticon 4 роки тому +7

    THANK YOU FOR CHESS MONTH!!! You’ve made quarantine not only bearable, but also, when considering what close quarters I find myself in with one other very irritable person… survivable!

  • @TheBeefiestable
    @TheBeefiestable 4 роки тому +68

    Jokes on us : What if a twig that is connected to just a single leaf in active sunlight constantly feels the most awe inspiring ecstasy that no human can even comprehend. With night cycles of blissful serenity that only make the next days anticipation of sunlight even better?

    • @andrewmartin3671
      @andrewmartin3671 4 роки тому +20

      Best short form leaf fanfic of 2020.

    • @armin6067
      @armin6067 4 роки тому +1

      I want to be that twig if just for one morning

  • @Electroporcupine
    @Electroporcupine 4 роки тому +5

    We are super magic men
    We stay up til 5am
    Although we're bound by Shaman Law
    What goes on tour
    STAYS ON TOUR!

  • @acerumble4991
    @acerumble4991 4 роки тому +6

    Great review and video, Matt is really flexing his shooting skills by making his limited space not feel limiting. Full support also for your window sign

  • @BodhiRook
    @BodhiRook 4 роки тому +10

    This channel has the best game reviews on the internet. No doubt. Thanks for the work!

  • @roblloyd2262
    @roblloyd2262 4 роки тому +29

    Cairn is sharin'

  • @Churro_Douglas
    @Churro_Douglas 4 роки тому +1

    His nose bumping the piece at 10:53 killed me 😂

  • @MatthewCallison
    @MatthewCallison 4 роки тому +7

    Shades of "The Duke", methinks.

  • @Pb2plus
    @Pb2plus 4 роки тому +3

    "Cairn you believe it" Killed me

  • @ethanwilson1625
    @ethanwilson1625 4 роки тому +3

    10:49 Matt's table is just a giant piece of salmon.

  • @philbrown4974
    @philbrown4974 4 роки тому +1

    Your style is great Matt. Been watching for years and these vids are still so fresh to me. Thanks susd

  • @sthilaid
    @sthilaid 4 роки тому +7

    For this series, I recommend you to review war chest! It's such a good and it seems to have little attention. Anyways, thanks for the delightful review!
    Nice haircut!

  • @Table53
    @Table53 4 роки тому +37

    Is this regular Cairn or the more exclusive Wet Cairn?
    Little podcast reference there for you to enjoy

    • @shutupandsitdown
      @shutupandsitdown  4 роки тому +29

      RIP wet ken

    • @Table53
      @Table53 4 роки тому +3

      @@shutupandsitdown RIP wet ken

    • @dynamicworlds1
      @dynamicworlds1 4 роки тому

      @@shutupandsitdown side note if I may go a bit off topic to increase the likelihood of you seeing this: to help with your chess crossed with chaos analogy (and introduce you to another historical game) this appears to be a "morris"-type game crossed with chaos (particularly the 10-12 man/stone varieties)
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_men%27s_morris
      It's not quite chess or GO, but it's a historic game still being played with simple rules that you can sketch out the board of with a pencil in moments and play with 4-12 tokens per side (highly recommend the higher piece-count versions over the lower ones) it's not bad (even if just for historical curiosity and as a game you can quickly teach and play with improvised stuff)
      Ps: learning curve more like checkers than chess and go.

  • @jamesnoble7777
    @jamesnoble7777 4 роки тому +4

    The blinds made me think the window sign said "Will Self is violent", he roughed up Mark Francois in debate and I could certainly believe he'd introduce a fascists face to the pavement but "White silence is violence" makes much more sense . Thank you for these videos.

  • @SilentBeutlin
    @SilentBeutlin 4 роки тому +12

    Me at the beginning of the review: “So... it’s Onitama?” Me at the end of the review: “So... it’s Onitama.”

    • @Andalosity
      @Andalosity 3 роки тому

      Except Cairn has a great theme, and Onitama looks super dry.

    • @ieatstheinternet
      @ieatstheinternet 3 роки тому

      @@Andalosity Chess "druids" really strikes you as greatly more thematic "martial artists"...? Or do you just mean there is more art, because sorry these seem fairly parallel in thematic-ness to me. Frankly both games could easily be shifted to any number of themes easily. Almost to the point of being "slapped on" themes.

  • @middaymeds
    @middaymeds 4 роки тому +6

    That twig reincarnation sketch was so unbelievably stupid...everyone knows Matt would be reincarnated as a worm

    • @Eddytor
      @Eddytor 4 роки тому +1

      Matt would be reincarnated as a worm sure, but a twig would definitely be reincarnated as Matt.

    • @gomezthechimp1116
      @gomezthechimp1116 4 роки тому

      Actually, a silkworm.

  • @jonathansartorius3775
    @jonathansartorius3775 Рік тому

    This review title sufficiently piqued my interest enough that I clicked on this video at 2:40 in the morning. Well done lads!

  • @JKT84
    @JKT84 3 роки тому +5

    I can’t tell you how disappointed I am that “Tactical Druid Rugby Chess” isn’t actually part of the name

  • @IPrinnyExplosions
    @IPrinnyExplosions 4 роки тому +7

    if it's the stones then it might be called Cairn because you stack the megaliths on top of each other when you set them aside, like the back sides of the megaliths looks like stones, and wen you stack them up it's a cairn and they are flat too so that also adds to it
    But this game is GENIUS!!!!!! I WAAAAAANT!

  • @MrRipYourHeadOff
    @MrRipYourHeadOff 4 роки тому +12

    This just looks like Onitama but a headache

  • @elicage5010
    @elicage5010 4 роки тому +1

    I dig the sign in your window!

  • @fireant202
    @fireant202 4 роки тому +4

    Looks like Onitama with a bit more weight and complexity. Neat but I do love the elegant simplicity of Onitama.

    • @Tennethums1
      @Tennethums1 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I agree. This one seems like they tried a bit too hard. Onitama is smooth and simple. This one is fiddly and nothing new. I have Krosmaster Arena and I’d just as soon play that than this.
      I used to buy up anything that looked even mildly fun, whether I had actually played it or not. But I broke through that nonsense. $20-$60 every week for a new game (or more!) can get quite expensive. If I see a game now that reminds me of any I already own, I don’t buy it! Or, I sell what I have to get the new one. I’ll stick with Onitama and Arena (among others I have).

  • @Shenaldrac
    @Shenaldrac 4 роки тому +2

    This sounds like the most chess-like game so far, I think. Like, at least in my experience, Chess is a game where whoever forgets a rule or a movement possibility first is the one who loses. It's a game about trying to hold all the information of the board state, of every potential move and countermove in your head all at once (which is why computers are so much better at it than us because a computer doesn't forget things.) And especially before you brought up the megaliths, that sounds a lot like what you were describing, a game that's all about "well I can only do this because if I do this then that happens" and such, which is the pitfall imo of a perfect information game. That it becomes less of a game and more of a calculation problem with a definitive solution.
    None of which is to deride anyone who likes Chess or Cairn, just was something I noticed and wanted to say.

    • @Toasty_93
      @Toasty_93 4 роки тому +1

      Then again, some might argue that precise calculation is a game in itself.

    • @Shenaldrac
      @Shenaldrac 4 роки тому

      @@Toasty_93 I don't find solving a mathematical equation to be a game, but then we're getting into "what is a game" and that's a rabbit hole I am one hundred and ten percent okay with not going down!

  • @calebbennetts3559
    @calebbennetts3559 4 роки тому +1

    Maybe it's called Cairn because they're tiny gnome druids, so what seems like a megalith to them is just a stack of pebbles to us.

  • @Hieronymus-Pseudonymous
    @Hieronymus-Pseudonymous 3 роки тому

    "Chicken. Not the bird, not the food..."

  • @leftwingdragon6235
    @leftwingdragon6235 4 роки тому

    1:49 "Spawn Slots!!" 🤣

  • @christianwilliams4242
    @christianwilliams4242 4 роки тому +4

    I've watched several other episodes of this show but this one was easily the most hilarious. An inspired performance!

  • @chesschad81
    @chesschad81 Рік тому

    2:17 He said "orthogonally"! The most underrated word in the English language.

  • @DieJG
    @DieJG 3 роки тому +2

    Such is the mistery of the druids.

    • @RatchetSly
      @RatchetSly Рік тому +1

      [hovers two feet above office chair]

  • @jamesmartin3233
    @jamesmartin3233 4 роки тому +2

    I auto-bought Cairn after hearing the mini review on the excellent SUSD podcast. Not disappointed

  • @henriwhitehead
    @henriwhitehead 4 роки тому +1

    Looks awesome! Great review!

  • @hanseathl
    @hanseathl 4 роки тому

    Now I am eagerly waiting for your review of " The Duke" where you will flip the tiles themselves after moving and having their options printed on them. I really like it!

  • @Slovakrob
    @Slovakrob 4 роки тому +4

    It's called Cairn because as you play on you stack on more layers of complexity

  • @precariousplays9469
    @precariousplays9469 4 роки тому +2

    Cairn reminds me just a little bit of Pyre, by Supergiant Games. It's a computer game that is (very, _very_ basically) fantasy 3 v 3 basketball.
    I feel like they share this idea of "What if we made a really small, sporty play area, then used some fantasy fluff to justify some real interesting nonsense?"

  • @mattiascrowe2549
    @mattiascrowe2549 3 роки тому

    It's good to get the kind of chaotic apocalypse hair representation I need; not often I see my hair style out in the wild

  • @that_morrigan6184
    @that_morrigan6184 4 роки тому +1

    "get out of the Jacuzzi... now"
    - twigkoaladruidman

  • @iamtheoneyouknowbest
    @iamtheoneyouknowbest 4 роки тому +3

    When you started it sounded like The Duke, then it became Onitama.. now it's Cairn. Looks/sounds like an interesting game.

  • @enochshreve364
    @enochshreve364 4 роки тому +1

    A chicken, not the bird, not the food, chicken

  • @MrCryptogon
    @MrCryptogon 2 роки тому

    Great Video. I've been looking for just this game and I didn't even know it! You've inspired another purchase.

  • @AlephN
    @AlephN 4 роки тому +2

    This reminds me heavily of The Duke- it's centered around the same "tile flip" mechanic, but instead of flipping three shared tiles, you flip the piece you moved (and the tile's moveset changes accordingly). I really want to play it.

    • @mechasduo004
      @mechasduo004 4 роки тому +2

      That's why in the last video I was excited that they might be reviewing The Duke... but I guess adding the monoliths that affect both players creates a deeper interaction for SU&SD.

    • @AlephN
      @AlephN 4 роки тому

      @@mechasduo004 The Duke also seems to be already out of print (despite a rerelease 2 years ago), so it's entirely possible they just haven't been able to play it, or never even heard of it. This video is the first I hear of Cairn, incidentally, but I wouldn't call it "the most chesslike game of all time", myself.
      Maybe, especially as this month's videos are geared towards games accessible for everyone stuck (with company) in quarantine, they know and enjoy The Duke but refrained from a video on it due to its unavailability.
      For my money, I just want to see them review Shogi and/or Go. ;_;

  • @namynikki
    @namynikki 4 роки тому +1

    yet another great review! i would love to play that game

  • @blarneystone38
    @blarneystone38 4 роки тому +2

    I'm sure Onitama, Santorini and Tak are happy to get another member in 5x5 Grid Hall of Fame

    • @fledge31
      @fledge31 4 роки тому

      It’s definitely in that same space with those games. Light, approachable abstracts with some fun ideas to mix things up.

  • @zur13l13
    @zur13l13 4 роки тому +1

    This will be my post-Hive game.
    Bloody great vid, mate.
    Cheers

  • @maxadolph1281
    @maxadolph1281 4 роки тому +2

    A game for two players i absolutely love is "Legend of Korra: Pro bending Arena". I know, it's a license-game and yeah, i own the Kickstarter-edition and the retail-pack might pack a little less punch, but i was actually surprised at what a solid game it is. My girlfired calls it fancy chess and refuses to play against me, but i had great duels with several friends^^

  • @rallllphy
    @rallllphy 4 роки тому +2

    This seems somewhat similar to The Duke, which is really cool chess-like game. Would be awesome to see you guys review that

  • @R4ks0
    @R4ks0 3 роки тому

    Hey guys, I want to say that I'm new to your channel but I have been loving it for the past week or so... Do you guys have a playlist for this Chess Month? I kinda want to watch all of these videos but can't seem to find them all (or maybe I did, but I want to be sure!)

  • @VorpalGreatSword
    @VorpalGreatSword 4 роки тому +1

    Cairn: rival druids maneuvering to control stacks of rocks and banish each other.
    Karens: rival Karens maneuvering to be the first to see the manager.

  • @Cloudninexy
    @Cloudninexy 4 роки тому +3

    When do you review Cosmic Encounter Duel? It would fit perfectly to this months theme, and I thought SUSDs opinion on the normal Cosmic Encounter is very high as well :D. Im excited to hear your opinion on this game :D

  • @ubergubber2101
    @ubergubber2101 4 роки тому +6

    Absolutely loving chess month! I’m always looking for great 2 player games for my wife and I.

  • @notjux
    @notjux 4 роки тому +1

    Sounds a lot like The Duke, one of my favourite Tactical Rugby Chess games. There was a planned "Mystical Troops" expansion for the game that never released, so maybe they had plans for Druids and just never made the cut to compete for the Tactical Druid Rugby Chess genre championship title.

  • @ZobRombie13
    @ZobRombie13 4 роки тому +4

    "Woah looks so fun, lemme pick up a copy...."
    *checks Amazon link in description*
    Unavailable.

    • @fledge31
      @fledge31 4 роки тому +1

      Hopefully it becomes available again soon! I don’t think it got much buzz on release, so hopefully the SU&SD review will increase demand and make it more widely available.

    • @joewarriner547
      @joewarriner547 4 роки тому

      Its still available direct from matagot!

  • @carpemkarzi
    @carpemkarzi 4 роки тому +1

    That looks like a ton o fun, thanks Matt.

  • @Cheddarific
    @Cheddarific 4 роки тому +1

    Another great video.
    Chess month should include Smash Up. It’s a completely different game at 2 players than at 3 or 4 and really develops a chess-like few between experienced players.

  • @mariahlee7653
    @mariahlee7653 4 роки тому +3

    Awesome presentation

  • @xlittlep
    @xlittlep 4 роки тому +5

    The megaliths bring complexity to the game. That complexity stacks on top of itself, layer by layer. If megaliths were stacked on top of each other, they would form... Cairn.
    Great review Matthew!

  • @Bogrin
    @Bogrin 4 роки тому +1

    You have sold me on this one!

  • @seanfaherty
    @seanfaherty Рік тому +1

    I generally like games with simple rules and complicated repercussions like Go or Chess but your description got me.
    Well done sir

    • @seanfaherty
      @seanfaherty Рік тому

      I hope the game cafe in Calgary has it.
      I will have to check it out

  • @gracedunt275
    @gracedunt275 4 роки тому

    I can't hear The Pyre without also hearing the Vox Machina intros @4:55

  • @sebastiang.5032
    @sebastiang.5032 4 роки тому +1

    'Santorini' would be a good fit for Chess Month.

    • @seanmobley2610
      @seanmobley2610 4 роки тому

      I'm going to be surprised if it doesn't make an appearance.

  • @BartoszDebski
    @BartoszDebski 4 роки тому +1

    Quality content as usual :D

  • @khalilio6174
    @khalilio6174 4 роки тому +17

    I know you guys did a Scythe review a while ago, but just like how you did an updated review for the expansion for the Game of Thrones board game when that came out, have you thought of doing an updated review for Scythe: Rise of Fenris?

    • @jonahbradley7638
      @jonahbradley7638 4 роки тому +7

      I can do one for you. If you have people to play it with, buy it.

    • @mienzillaz
      @mienzillaz 4 роки тому +1

      @@jonahbradley7638 .. XD

  • @michaelsandfordcomics
    @michaelsandfordcomics 4 роки тому +3

    I mean, the effects of the rocks stack right? allowing for combos? cairn as a name makes sense to me.

  • @BoardGames3000
    @BoardGames3000 4 роки тому +1

    There is a stack of rocks(monoliths) outside the game state waiting to come into the game.
    Another possible meaning of cairn is the idea linking special powers together creating a chain reaction or stacking your actions.
    🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @TasticJam
    @TasticJam 4 роки тому +13

    Loving Chess Month! Two player games have definitely been a high point of lockdown for myself and my female house inhabitant. Hope you guys are thinking of covering Raptor? Not only is it a great 2p but it also has dinosaurs. DINOSAURS. I rest my case.

  • @Garzini
    @Garzini 4 роки тому +1

    I kept thinking about Dungeon Twister during this review.

  • @kylejohnson150
    @kylejohnson150 4 роки тому +2

    Always wondered what happened to Edward Norton after he started that fight club, sorry to see he was introduced to meth but glad he's got healthy gaming habits

  • @captainron7120
    @captainron7120 4 роки тому +2

    Twiglets Imperium

  • @Saturn2888
    @Saturn2888 4 роки тому

    Sneaky sneaky. I saw that large green circular piece and was thinking "I guess it's a helper? Doesn't look like it does anything because we're almost done with the review"... And then, PLOT TWIST!

  • @TheMunchkin9
    @TheMunchkin9 4 роки тому

    I really want them to review Element for Chess Month.
    Discovered it yesterday and fell in love with it. It's basically Avatar The Last Airbender dual chess. Brilliant, simple mechanics that really give you that attack and counter riposte feel.

  • @Electroporcupine
    @Electroporcupine 4 роки тому

    I cairn't believe the lack of cairn puns in this review.

  • @fledge31
    @fledge31 4 роки тому

    Glad you guys liked this one! I was starting to think I was alone in my affection for the game, and it didn’t seem to get much buzz. Happy to see it get more love!

  • @Toshminosh
    @Toshminosh 4 роки тому +1

    very funny review. will be buying this

  • @elan1993
    @elan1993 3 роки тому +1

    Spot on about this being a caravan game. Every time it rains I want to play Cairn now.

  • @PrimatoFortunato
    @PrimatoFortunato 4 роки тому +4

    Sounds less brutally fun than blood bowl.
    However, it is true that in BB I’m already satisfied with the first half of the match and don’t really want to play the second

  • @IronSalamander8
    @IronSalamander8 4 роки тому +1

    This looks neat. Inis is decent but I never really got into it much,Tigris and Euphrates is good but can drag on a bit, but this one looks more fun and shorter than both of those.

  • @animatepl
    @animatepl 4 роки тому +1

    This or Onitama? What do you think Matt? Which one do you like more?

  • @furretthefuzzynoodle3896
    @furretthefuzzynoodle3896 4 роки тому

    I think this board game wants to meet your manager

  • @traceyhiscoe9446
    @traceyhiscoe9446 4 роки тому +8

    The only thing I don't like about these reviews is your showing me games that are out of stock

  • @TheF2tehk
    @TheF2tehk 4 роки тому +1

    Looks like my family name really sounds like Cairn in English when I say it in German. Anyway, the game looks nice! Might take a closer look! Thank you so much for all your great work!

  • @CaptBighead
    @CaptBighead 4 роки тому +1

    The twig thing made me burst out laughing.

  • @DJF1984
    @DJF1984 4 роки тому +1

    SIX! Can someone please compile a video of all the times SUSD squeaks out Six in their different videos??

  • @Jurm.69
    @Jurm.69 4 роки тому

    Lockdown has turned Matt into Catweazel!!! I’m all for it!

  • @vzuzukin
    @vzuzukin 4 роки тому +1

    Masterful! Game AND video 🤙

  • @diego_villena
    @diego_villena 4 роки тому

    One of Matt’s best reviews, sold on this game. I’ll look forward to buying it when it comes back in stock in 5 years. But... anyone else notice audio clipping?

  • @leeperry7068
    @leeperry7068 4 роки тому

    Just here pushing for DVONN to hit your table... my all time favorite abstract 2 player tactical game. So simple, with layers of complexity revealed as you play more.

  • @akizoraa
    @akizoraa 4 роки тому

    That orange keyboard is totally rad, Matt.