Excellent video! Thank you for the upload. It provides the cultural background and the economics behind the proposed land swap. I also, thank you for representing the Apaches in their legal battle. I watched the en banc Circuit Court proceedings last week. I thought your team represented the Apaches well. The government has a terrible history of doing the will of corporations. My spirit stands with the Apaches.
Copper....yes, copper has made it possible for you to post your above message. Also, every time you use electricity it's copper that has made that possible as well. Think about that! Love, circle and common sense progress.
This is my home. I live at the base of Apache Leap in Superior. It is at minimum heartbreaking. The greed and corruption is there for all to see. It is insane. All I can do is ask that the powers that be to open your hearts and do the right thing, let freedom ring.
As a child of parents who work for the nearby mines out of necessity I really hope that shitty company doesn't take that land. It's so important to so many people and should remain a sacred land. It's really cool to see a video about this on UA-cam. I didn't know much about it before and I live nearby. Very upsetting to see what the mine plans to do with it.
Pray that the greed ends wirh a great road block to the invading corporate snake. Prayers and people knowing more about this around the world. It's a violation that the government needs to stop. I will make sure people know. Its disturbing. My heart goes out 😮To the Apache Najvajo people. John Teremoana Green. Peace.
How the heck is that corporation able to pull this off!? It isn't even an American corporation, which would make no difference. It's the same now as it was back in Golyaka's day... "They have something I want? They're only Indians. Heck it'll be ours, no problem." Ussen help me... I don't want to be angry at them. But it seems like it will never end. Does anyone know if this is on Mescalero land? I can see from their dress, etc.. that they must be of Chiricahua descent. So it must be on Mescalero? White Mountain? I'm going to contact a couple people in Congress. See if they can help.
@@ocaphoenix5347 No reply yet. Except like an auto generated confirmation that they received it. I so much want to move down there. Are you Mescalero by chance? I was thinking I should secure a job down there first. I have a master's in Anthropology. It seems the tribes that have done the best have their own anthropologist. But I can fill other roles. Wherever they need me.
Use the. clean air act plus EPA HAS BEEN A WINNING CASE .2 Men started and cleaned up theArkansas River Utes and |Jicarilla Apache northern mo0st .We did it in thecourts and. public opinionI will help please.
What about Christmas mine? What about the unmarked graves of our elders on this sight. It was once owned by Apache. No else is buried there after the purchase of the boarder. 1912 I’m Yaqui and live where the two rivers meet . Gila and San Pedro. I would like to know what happened there? Lots of lost history there. Camp Grant massacre is down the road..
I have grew up in Globe and they have only started with Oak Flats about 30 years ago, and the coming of age ceremony is done on the San Carlos Reservation. They have been fighting over this land for years and all it was a temporary place until the San Carlos reservation was established.
The mining will not change the Apache faith. The mining will not destroy the mountain as claimed. The Tribe should seek profits from the mine, instead of trying to prevent it.
The USA government vigorously fights for individual freedoms and the ability for each person to practice a religion without fear or discrimination, that is unless it is a religion they don't understand in which case it is not worthy of any protections. Just because the federal government does not understand the Apache religion does not give them grounds to dismiss the practice as unauthentic and unimportant. Destroying Oak Flats destroys a religion which violates the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. Pretty simple equation of the hypothetical reality. The very earth, the rocks, the insects, the plants, the air at Oak Flats represents their church. When a foreign mining company destroys a church for their personal gain, shouldn't the USA be collectively against this? I am not a religious person, but I accept that some people are and that they practice their religion in various ways, some in a building and some outside in a natural space. The Supreme Court needs to protect ALL religions exactly the same way and that means Saving Oak Flat to allow the Apache to practice their religion without fear.
According to Wikipedia "The Apache people migrated to the Southwest between 1000 and 1500 AD, and are believed to have arrived in what is now Arizona sometime during that period". I take that to mean that Apaches wandered until they stopped in Arizona during that time. So when they call a place "sacred" that is just an arbitrary adjective that can mean anything. It apparently doesn't have anything to do with a deity.
I mean the petroglyphs and history that spans thousands of years pretty clearly makes it Indigenous sacred land and not to a mining company from Australia.
@@danthedewman1 and why would that negate the fact that it should be protected for any tribe who holds it sacred rather than permanently destroying an irreplaceable resource in the name of greed? Did you even watch the video?
Not okay. Thus us sad. Money ux tf s root of all evil especially green. Whats mor we important money or protecting the land, an I nald and peopkes rights to keep their sacred lands from being ruined as s in totally.
I know alot of these individuals in this video non of them utilized this land only when a camera is present the only thing they want is money and thats it they don't even take care of their own reservation this is gonna get passed regardless and the surrounding communities cannot wait
Your opinion is repugnant and untrue. Native's religious practices have always been delegitimized and undermined. Our religion has been the only religion official banned in the United States. For 99 years, we were denied our "religious liberty" because of people like you and IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN!
Unfortunately I think you're right. I love oak flat for it's natural beauty and I participated in a couple of the protests. My observation was it was contrived. Also the entire Dan Carlos reservation and the highway are trashed. Hardly respecting the sacred earth.
Total bullcrap. We NEED that mine and the Apaches have ignored Oak Flat for years until Resolution took over. The mine will NOT damage their "sacred" ground one bit!
My family and I have lived in Superior all our lives. Not once have we seen any Native Americans in Oak Flats. It's a campground for the people of The Copper Corridor. Sorry, but liberal lawyers and activists have created this unnecessary drama.
I have been there to camp twice and both times there were native people there encamped. The first time I was there I was invited to share a meal with the family of a young girl who was about to have her Sunrise Ceremony. There are two different worldviews going on here. One is going to lose.
Excellent video! Thank you for the upload. It provides the cultural background and the economics behind the proposed land swap. I also, thank you for representing the Apaches in their legal battle. I watched the en banc Circuit Court proceedings last week. I thought your team represented the Apaches well. The government has a terrible history of doing the will of corporations. My spirit stands with the Apaches.
Thank you for the report.
A report? It's more like gaslighting
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March 21. Praying for success. Let us all learn to walk in beauty together. Apache Stronghold.
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Copper....yes, copper has made it possible for you to post your above message. Also, every time you use electricity it's copper that has made that possible as well. Think about that! Love, circle and common sense progress.
This is my home. I live at the base of Apache Leap in Superior. It is at minimum heartbreaking. The greed and corruption is there for all to see. It is insane. All I can do is ask that the powers that be to open your hearts and do the right thing, let freedom ring.
As a child of parents who work for the nearby mines out of necessity I really hope that shitty company doesn't take that land. It's so important to so many people and should remain a sacred land. It's really cool to see a video about this on UA-cam. I didn't know much about it before and I live nearby. Very upsetting to see what the mine plans to do with it.
Pray that the greed ends wirh a great road block to the invading corporate snake. Prayers and people knowing more about this around the world. It's a violation that the government needs to stop. I will make sure people know. Its disturbing. My heart goes out 😮To the Apache Najvajo people. John Teremoana Green. Peace.
Lord, Jesus Christ, give the Apache people your favor in keeping their sacred land. Apache lives matter!
yes jesus help them!
How the heck is that corporation able to pull this off!? It isn't even an American corporation, which would make no difference. It's the same now as it was back in Golyaka's day... "They have something I want? They're only Indians. Heck it'll be ours, no problem." Ussen help me... I don't want to be angry at them. But it seems like it will never end. Does anyone know if this is on Mescalero land? I can see from their dress, etc.. that they must be of Chiricahua descent. So it must be on Mescalero? White Mountain? I'm going to contact a couple people in Congress. See if they can help.
what did you find out?
@@ocaphoenix5347 No reply yet. Except like an auto generated confirmation that they received it. I so much want to move down there. Are you Mescalero by chance? I was thinking I should secure a job down there first. I have a master's in Anthropology. It seems the tribes that have done the best have their own anthropologist. But I can fill other roles. Wherever they need me.
Let's unite and help! What is a good email?
Wild that this is allowed to happen with all the federal laws it’s breaking. I hope they will repeal this decision.
They're are zero federal laws being broken. Please educate yourself!
Use the. clean air act plus EPA HAS BEEN A WINNING CASE .2 Men started and cleaned up theArkansas River Utes and |Jicarilla Apache northern mo0st .We did it in thecourts and. public opinionI will help please.
Life's more than silver and gold
Copper used for dirty green energy. Copper conducts energy and should not be removed from holy sites.
The late Queen Elizabeth OWNED Rio Tinto now Charles owns it!
That mine has caved in many times and has killed people.
What about Christmas mine?
What about the unmarked graves of our elders on this sight.
It was once owned by Apache. No else is buried there after the purchase of the boarder. 1912
I’m Yaqui and live where the two rivers meet . Gila and San Pedro.
I would like to know what happened there?
Lots of lost history there.
Camp Grant massacre is down the road..
Camp Grant is why these Killers stopped doing what they were doing!
Looks like History is repeating itself.
I have grew up in Globe and they have only started with Oak Flats about 30 years ago, and the coming of age ceremony is done on the San Carlos Reservation. They have been fighting over this land for years and all it was a temporary place until the San Carlos reservation was established.
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Sacred lands?! Not sacred if they can build a casino.
There are no casinos on Oak flat
The mining will not change the Apache faith. The mining will not destroy the mountain as claimed. The Tribe should seek profits from the mine, instead of trying to prevent it.
It's only sacred till someone writes a big enough Check.
Or until they want to build an Indian casino on it!
The USA government vigorously fights for individual freedoms and the ability for each person to practice a religion without fear or discrimination, that is unless it is a religion they don't understand in which case it is not worthy of any protections. Just because the federal government does not understand the Apache religion does not give them grounds to dismiss the practice as unauthentic and unimportant. Destroying Oak Flats destroys a religion which violates the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. Pretty simple equation of the hypothetical reality. The very earth, the rocks, the insects, the plants, the air at Oak Flats represents their church. When a foreign mining company destroys a church for their personal gain, shouldn't the USA be collectively against this? I am not a religious person, but I accept that some people are and that they practice their religion in various ways, some in a building and some outside in a natural space. The Supreme Court needs to protect ALL religions exactly the same way and that means Saving Oak Flat to allow the Apache to practice their religion without fear.
Henry(Apache Yaqui) AIM
What about the Treaty 1852 🤷...
According to Wikipedia "The Apache people migrated to the Southwest between 1000 and 1500 AD, and are believed to have arrived in what is now Arizona sometime during that period". I take that to mean that Apaches wandered until they stopped in Arizona during that time. So when they call a place "sacred" that is just an arbitrary adjective that can mean anything. It apparently doesn't have anything to do with a deity.
We natives were here first before you unwashed pinkos crawled out the leaky wooden boats.
Is the lipan Apache apart of the other Apache
Yea. Lipan are similar to Mescaleros & Jicarillas
Absolutely no regard for the Spiritual. Always about a bottom line! I remember McStain being chased off the reservation for the pure coward he was!
No; no regard for the puerile superstitions of Stone Age nomads. [and, there SHOULDN'T be] 🤪
@@johnharrison6745 selling our land and mineral rights to other countries is wrong
@@bobleclair5665 Yes; ONLY the UNITED STATES should have those.
@@johnharrison6745 all countries
@@bobleclair5665 The United States should have ALL of their land.
how can anyone be sure whose land it is when the lands have changed hands many times...
I mean the petroglyphs and history that spans thousands of years pretty clearly makes it Indigenous sacred land and not to a mining company from Australia.
@@savannahengelking8384 maybe it was
another tribes land is what I mean
@@danthedewman1 you mean the ancestors of the current indigenous tribes?
@@danthedewman1 and why would that negate the fact that it should be protected for any tribe who holds it sacred rather than permanently destroying an irreplaceable resource in the name of greed? Did you even watch the video?
@@savannahengelking8384 yes karen i did
Not okay. Thus us sad. Money ux tf s root of all evil especially green. Whats mor we important money or protecting the land, an I nald and peopkes rights to keep their sacred lands from being ruined as s in totally.
I know alot of these individuals in this video non of them utilized this land only when a camera is present the only thing they want is money and thats it they don't even take care of their own reservation this is gonna get passed regardless and the surrounding communities cannot wait
Your opinion is repugnant and untrue. Native's religious practices have always been delegitimized and undermined. Our religion has been the only religion official banned in the United States. For 99 years, we were denied our "religious liberty" because of people like you and IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN!
Unfortunately I think you're right.
I love oak flat for it's natural beauty and I participated in a couple of the protests. My observation was it was contrived.
Also the entire Dan Carlos reservation and the highway are trashed. Hardly respecting the sacred earth.
Total bullcrap. We NEED that mine and the Apaches have ignored Oak Flat for years until Resolution took over. The mine will NOT damage their "sacred" ground one bit!
My family and I have lived in Superior all our lives. Not once have we seen any Native Americans in Oak Flats. It's a campground for the people of The Copper Corridor. Sorry, but liberal lawyers and activists have created this unnecessary drama.
I have been there to camp twice and both times there were native people there encamped. The first time I was there I was invited to share a meal with the family of a young girl who was about to have her Sunrise Ceremony. There are two different worldviews going on here. One is going to lose.