93rd Military Police Battalion was in Vietnam from June 1966 - December 1971. They were based in Oklahoma, before deployment. They were in the Northern II Corps Tactical Zone of Vietnam, under the 16th MP Group. My book says nothing about their leadership, or what LTC was in charge or anything. They were mainly stationed in Qui Nohn, and Phu Thanh.
My Dad was in the Navy in the south Pacific during WW2. He was on a tanker and arrived there late summer of 44. He said they only had the old style Brodie helmets to wear at general quarters. You would have thought by mid to late 1944 they would have been better equipped. My first experience with any helmet was wearing a liner with J.O.O.D. (Junior Officer Of the Deck) painted on it while standing quarterdeck watch in Navy boot camp in 1967.
Good video. I was the quality control person for the 1968 & 1969 Vietnam era M-1 helmets (#6521) made by Dana Corporation at their Trenton, Michigan, factory. When I worked there both the materials and the manufacturing process were classified. From what I understand that info is now in the public domain.
Am I the only one who likes it when the helmets and liners are a little beat up? It shows it has seen some action somewhere. I have a lot of helmets in way less than mint condition and I like them that way. Anyway not hating great video
A friend of mine who is also a collector refers to used items as "having character" . They have been there and done that. Also they cost less so you can have a more extensive collection.
Another thing about wearing the steel pot, if your head doesn’t fully fill the helmet, every time your shot your rifle the concussion of the shot would rattle the helmet and cause your ears to ring.
Great video, very informative! Like many on here, I was issued one of these when I first joined the Army in 1983. I was in Aschaffenburg, Germany in 1984-85 where we were issued the new Kevlar helmet in November 1984 and we all agreed that the new helmet sucked but it did stop bullets unlike the M1. I was an Infantryman and we would wear the Kevlar helmet with the chin strap tucked/wrapped around the camouflage band in the back as we did with the steel pot. It didn’t take long before the command cracked down and made us use the chin strap at all times. I still remember how hard it was to install the sweat band in the Kevlar helmet, it had these itty bitty D rings that had to be flipped over the clip to secure each clip but it was nearly impossible to squeeze the clip tight enough so it’ll flip over the clip, we eventually used some pliers and even then it was tough, one guy got pissed and chucked his, lol. We used to use our steel pots as a hammer for tent pegs or as a makeshift camping stool to sit on. So if you see some damage to the top of the helmet, it was because of using it as a hammer. I have a collection of all the helmets I was issued and ones that I wore in 2 wars in my 26 year career before retiring in 2009. I can’t believe how expensive these old steel pots are today!
75 comments and two full years later, "Oh goodie, I was looking for a documentary about this topic in general and helmet-evolution from ALL countries specifically, thank you!"
I actually have a British helmet in good condition the wool still intact everything there it's a amazing helmet including the American ones it's kinda shocking that these helmets were the first of the evolution for the military
Excellent video, you have a very cool collection! Do you know anything about the unissued condition insect net helmet covers that have appeared on the market in recent times? They look much like a standard WWII M-1 camouflage helmet cover but have an insect net attached along the lower edge that can be folded up into the helmet when not in use. The fabric is also thinner and non-herringbone. I've seen only one WWII era photo of a U.S. soldier or marine wearing one in a picture. Aside from that, I and another collector I've talked to who also has one are totally stumped as to their origin and usage history.
The plain OD green net was available in the Clothing sales store at Fort Dix into the 1980's so I suspected they were still being made. You could also put it on the "boonie' hat.
US bought Brodies from Britain and used a version until 1942. UK continued to use them during WWII. After the war they were used by Israel, Egypt, Pakistan, and India.
The USMC reversible camo would be excellent for both temperate and desert environment. Would have saved billions of dollars if they just stuck with that from 1944.
My m1 helmet is from the 7th navy beach battalion and the markings on it are cool as fuck the moment I turn 18 I'm going to either Florida or Ohio to do a d day reenactment
Not really -- more a case of similar requirements and scientific research producing somewhat similar results. And it's only similar in profile, not from the front...
@John Johnson you really don't have to "yank" or strech it at all, Simply using elastic band and proper placing of the cover with the liner placement can make even new covers fit nicely. If that also doesn't work placing the cover in warm water and letting it sit and sry over the helmet can work out really well
If that person gives away any how much can I get one are you I’m a very big fan of helmets and I only have a bag packed a magic patch and a fake bike helmet and one helmet that’s fake made out of paper out of bike helmet so I really want to do homework always wanted one actually when I was five on one and one my dad is in the Air Force he retired in 2018 and so yeah I am can I get one and I’m going to not tell my friends my friends dad because he’s going to say handed over because he works in the military that he gets dead soldiers from the second world war or the first world war and take your clothes
93rd Military Police Battalion was in Vietnam from June 1966 - December 1971. They were based in Oklahoma, before deployment. They were in the Northern II Corps Tactical Zone of Vietnam, under the 16th MP Group. My book says nothing about their leadership, or what LTC was in charge or anything. They were mainly stationed in Qui Nohn, and Phu Thanh.
Where did you find all this information
According to this website, 93rd would have white band instead of blue and red
My Dad was in the Navy in the south Pacific during WW2. He was on a tanker and arrived there late summer of 44. He said they only had the old style Brodie helmets to wear at general quarters. You would have thought by mid to late 1944 they would have been better equipped. My first experience with any helmet was wearing a liner with J.O.O.D. (Junior Officer Of the Deck) painted on it while standing quarterdeck watch in Navy boot camp in 1967.
Good video. I was the quality control person for the 1968 & 1969 Vietnam era M-1 helmets (#6521) made by Dana Corporation at their Trenton, Michigan, factory. When I worked there both the materials and the manufacturing process were classified. From what I understand that info is now in the public domain.
Am I the only one who likes it when the helmets and liners are a little beat up? It shows it has seen some action somewhere. I have a lot of helmets in way less than mint condition and I like them that way. Anyway not hating great video
A friend of mine who is also a collector refers to used items as "having character" . They have been there and done that. Also they cost less so you can have a more extensive collection.
@@stang3787 exactly
i have a hard time finding real helmets anywhere, even the internet
I feel the same way about guns, well to an extent, I still want it to be able to shoot safely lol
@@kinggeorgeiii7515 yeah I've never seen this video but I can see how you thought you saw me lol
Another thing about wearing the steel pot, if your head doesn’t fully fill the helmet, every time your shot your rifle the concussion of the shot would rattle the helmet and cause your ears to ring.
The ww2 usmc helmet with the cover is my favourite
At 13:45 It could be the 93d MP battalion
Great video, very informative! Like many on here, I was issued one of these when I first joined the Army in 1983. I was in Aschaffenburg, Germany in 1984-85 where we were issued the new Kevlar helmet in November 1984 and we all agreed that the new helmet sucked but it did stop bullets unlike the M1. I was an Infantryman and we would wear the Kevlar helmet with the chin strap tucked/wrapped around the camouflage band in the back as we did with the steel pot. It didn’t take long before the command cracked down and made us use the chin strap at all times. I still remember how hard it was to install the sweat band in the Kevlar helmet, it had these itty bitty D rings that had to be flipped over the clip to secure each clip but it was nearly impossible to squeeze the clip tight enough so it’ll flip over the clip, we eventually used some pliers and even then it was tough, one guy got pissed and chucked his, lol. We used to use our steel pots as a hammer for tent pegs or as a makeshift camping stool to sit on. So if you see some damage to the top of the helmet, it was because of using it as a hammer. I have a collection of all the helmets I was issued and ones that I wore in 2 wars in my 26 year career before retiring in 2009. I can’t believe how expensive these old steel pots are today!
Crome dome best one for sure. Although there all awesome love the old M1 steel helmet.
Awesome I love the US army helmets
Yes love also these helmets and love the Kevlar Helmets from the USA
A friend of mine was an extra in “The Pacific”. He wore a light weight prop helmet that looked like the real deal,
75 comments and two full years later,
"Oh goodie, I was looking for a documentary about this topic in general and helmet-evolution from ALL countries specifically, thank you!"
My uncle Dennis was a s.sgt M.P and he weared that same M.P unit
I actually have a British helmet in good condition the wool still intact everything there it's a amazing helmet including the American ones it's kinda shocking that these helmets were the first of the evolution for the military
Excellent video, you have a very cool collection! Do you know anything about the unissued condition insect net helmet covers that have appeared on the market in recent times? They look much like a standard WWII M-1 camouflage helmet cover but have an insect net attached along the lower edge that can be folded up into the helmet when not in use. The fabric is also thinner and non-herringbone. I've seen only one WWII era photo of a U.S. soldier or marine wearing one in a picture. Aside from that, I and another collector I've talked to who also has one are totally stumped as to their origin and usage history.
The plain OD green net was available in the Clothing sales store at Fort Dix into the 1980's so I suspected they were still being made. You could also put it on the "boonie' hat.
great video. so much m1 goodness!
my original m1917 looks almost that good.
Lovely Helmet Collection. I Own 2 US M1 Helmets myself,.one WW2 and one Vietnam era. Pretty kool stuff.
Every time the camera man wants to talk he’s rude about it lol
I’d like to see some info. On foreign M1 clones
17:17 That guy sounded rude asf.
Thanks
Hey, love the video, deffo gonna add a M1 to my collection,,,,have to do some research, .....🇬🇧🇺🇸
Is in the american m1917 asbestos too?
Nope
I thought it was just under the felt
yes.
Thank you so much for the Master Class!
Great video, Thanks! Did the helmet shells come in different sizes?
No but the liner had adjustments
@@stang3787 Thanks very much!
Question, did the britian wear the brodie helmet after the Americans discarded it?
US bought Brodies from Britain and used a version until 1942. UK continued to use them during WWII. After the war they were used by Israel, Egypt, Pakistan, and India.
@@stang3787 I've seen pictures of Dutch wearing them in Indonesia after WW2 as well....
@@AndrewAMartin they had their own version. it was the m56.
Wasn' t the kettlehat worn in medieval age ;-)
why wasn't the helmet liner made integral to the helmet?
Easy to repair
So you could use the pot to wash you nasty ass
I wash in mine every
so the liner could be used as a hard helmet when the steel helmet wasnt needed. also a sun helmet liner was planned but never realized.
Very interesting and great info thank you
Now I feel old thanks 👍🤣👍
Thanks for the info keep it up!
Great video 🙌
The USMC reversible camo would be excellent for both temperate and desert environment. Would have saved billions of dollars if they just stuck with that from 1944.
i have a original 1972 Vitenam war liner
My m1 helmet is from the 7th navy beach battalion and the markings on it are cool as fuck the moment I turn 18 I'm going to either Florida or Ohio to do a d day reenactment
I’ll take your entire stock!
I feel like the helmets issued in the 1980's were based off the german helmets in WW2
Not really -- more a case of similar requirements and scientific research producing somewhat similar results. And it's only similar in profile, not from the front...
@@AndrewAMartin in that case the germans had some well designed helmets
@@logger22 most modern kevalar helmets are based off of german ww2 helmets
@@logger22 yeah even modern US swat team operatives use the stahlhelm.
I love the world war II helmets
I have one helmet wwII in Malaysia...
Some nice helmets but the way the covers are installed makes me sad. They need to be tight! ;)
@John Johnson you really don't have to "yank" or strech it at all,
Simply using elastic band and proper placing of the cover with the liner placement can make even new covers fit nicely. If that also doesn't work placing the cover in warm water and letting it sit and sry over the helmet can work out really well
The soviet and the US and Adrian helmet are the best
Hawley line rdude
i hope to get the Hawley liner in a future video on the Brodie or tin hat.
Oh my god! JC A BOMB
9:20
93rd is the 93rd Military police battalion.
14:40 I have that helmet!
3:34 battlefield 1
93rd Engineer Battalion?
you killed my "Combat" fantasy....hahahahaha
Good vudeo
If that person gives away any how much can I get one are you I’m a very big fan of helmets and I only have a bag packed a magic patch and a fake bike helmet and one helmet that’s fake made out of paper out of bike helmet so I really want to do homework always wanted one actually when I was five on one and one my dad is in the Air Force he retired in 2018 and so yeah I am can I get one and I’m going to not tell my friends my friends dad because he’s going to say handed over because
he works in the military that he gets dead soldiers from the second world war or the first world war and take your clothes