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😢 absolutely heart breaking, We just never know If we should be terrified and searching, or if a person just makes a selfish choice and hit the reset button, obviously without worry of the effect on the children, her parents, siblings 😭😔🙏🏽 it's just what she chose.
Glad these cold cases are finally solved. Now there families can have some closure. I wonder what made Mary Jane leave her family, I wish she kept in touch with her kids. Rip Barbara and Dorothy
There's never closure. Sometimes maybe justice but closure never. That's something people like to say to make media, cops or whoever narrated the story feel better.
@@dianedavidson7977 ok. I have ever lost someone and they looked for him for 5years not knowing he was murdered and disposed of in a forest. Good thing he had his id in his pocket. Which the police used to know who he was. We were sad but happy that they had found him, we felt some closure coz we found him and buried him. At least now we know where he is. That's the kind of closure I was talking about.
@dianedavidson7977 I think in some cases people mean knowledge to help one grieve the truth. For an example, the person who's loved one disappeared and years later, they find them in a car at the bottom of a lake. People will never be able to move on completely from that. But they are no longer searching and spending their time needlessly looking and worrying on top of grieving. They can know what happened, bury them, have a service or memorial of some sort, and grieve that death like they should have done years ago had they known what happened. I did not watch the whole video but in the case of Mary Jane- her children may never know why she left them. But they know she moved and started a new life without them. She did not end up being those random corpses found that they would worry about. She was out living a new life. Well I mean she was dead when they found her but she had lived to old age and probably died of something more natural. They can take the truth and can process it properly now.
@@dianedavidson7977 Thats why i say some closure coz they can't get full closure. But at least they know where there loved ones are and can stop searching and wondering what really happened to them. They can visit there graves and finally be able to sleep peacefully knowing where there loved one is. and also the victim getting justice. It brings some little closure to the loved ones.
The scenery pictured for Dorothy Thomas's case is not of Tallahassee, Fl. I live there. No mountains in Florida. Period. But I'm glad her case was solved 🙏
Sounds like mary was better off without her husband. Statitically she left because of an abusive husband. The 1930s weren't exactly supportive of battered wives.
@@TJ-tj9gb so just forget the kids huh? No, the fact that she was still in contact with her daughter when she needed things mailed tells me all I needed to know. She had the opportunity to still reach the kids...but chose not to.
@@theoneandonlymoni6204 Couldn't deduce the meaning of my post huh? The fact she did something so drastic is what made me believe she left a horrific situation to be better off. Sadly 1930s didn't support abused women. They were left with the choice of stay and be beaten (possibly to death) or leave the kids and start a new life. If you're running from a situation where you believe your life is in danger you'd be a moron if you keep in contact with anyone from back home. It could ruin all you've accomplished in escaping the aforementioned horrific situation
@@TJ-tj9gb she DID reach out to her kid...but for selfish reasons. So if that man really wanted to harm her he could have went to where she was mailing it from and got her there. Why even reach out at all is my question....if you are so scared why use your child in mailing scam. Also what about when the man died....still no communication to the kids?
@@TJ-tj9gbcould have also been a situation where the woman slept with another man. The husband could have kicked her out and told her to never come back. Men had a lot of power over their wives back then, and the wives cowered to men.
Absolutely. Especially in the 1930s. The police weren't as helpful to abused spouses back then. It was almost accepted as part of a marriage in those days
Im always curious as to how can a woman that loves to be a mother just leaves their little children juat like that and start over aa if they were nothing. Never tried to reach out, or wpnder if theyre ok. Sounds like a sociopath only she was not a violent one. Crazy
Take a walk in someone else's shoes and just try to imagine when a wife couldn't leave her husband. Get used to it bc we are heading back in time. No divorce, forced pregnancies r**e and inc*"t included, no birth control so imagine and here we are in Texas and Florida, Alabama and many southern states. Get a grip on what's happening in 2024.
@@dianedavidson7977WTH are you talking about? No divorce? No abortion availability blah blah? In 1945 you could marry and divorce 8-9 times. Women have left plenty since. You make it sound like caveman days 😂. Want to abort? Go to the state next door 🤷♀️
You shouldn't judge without knowing facts. Perhaps she was a battered wife. In those days, it wasn't against the law. Maybe the husband was never violent to the children and she knew they'd be well taken care of. The hardest thing for a mother, is to give up her children. Maybe she was an alcoholic? You don't know. Please don't judge anyone until you examine yourself. Best wishes.😊
um, did i fall asleep during the part where they explained/figured out where the missing aunt went? because it seems like we just got the thing brought up to have it go, "oh and by the by, the poor dude wasn't the Only kid missing from that family... oh well. dropping that thread to go back to this other one." like okay but Seriously... what happened to Clara??? why bring her into this if you're not going to tell us where *her* story ended up?
Not even going to give any credit to Crime weekly? Without them the DNA wouldn't of been tested due to not having the money to get the said test done. It's common knowledge so i just feel it would've been polite to give credit where credit is due. So many "jane and john doe" cases don't get solved due to lack of expenses... it's sad and maybe things will get better in time. Anyway please spread the word so people like crime weekly can make money to help these cases...or you could do the same Either way i hope next time y'all do better
💯, I actually was waiting to hear Stephanie Harlowe & Derrick Lavasseur’s names! ( for everyone else who may not be familiar; they are the hosts of Crime Weekly)
😢😢😢😢😢😢 so sorry! You can never run from the truth ! Thankyou GOD! for my plane and simple life! YOU ARE MY EVERYTHING! THEN MY CHILDERN AND MY GRANDCHILDREN! ❤❤❤❤❤
In the Mary Jane case, I know we shouldn’t judge. However, it never cease to amaze me that whenever women do something that might be considered wrong or hurtful to others, we always find an excuse for them. If a man ran away and left his family and wife, we would consider him to be some sort of a bum. If a woman does it, we automatically assume, she must’ve been abused. Maybe she was, we will never know. I just think it’s unfair to label this woman’s first husband as a possible abuser. Maybe she just fell out of love with him. Or maybe she didn’t like the circumstances of her life. Sometimes we make choices when we’re very young that later on we might considered a mistake. After all the woman married at 17! I make no judgments upon her. I just wanna show some compassion for the husband and family she left behind.
I would lay money down that she was being abused by her husband, and that's why. Back then, if a woman left her husband for any reason other than him cheating on her (and sometimes not even then), he would keep custody of the children, and she would not have the option to get them. Being abused, probably raped (and marital rape was legal until the 1990s in the US), everyone has their breaking point.
Maybw ahe truatwd her child and the child did what the mom asked. Lots of people here saying sounds like she was in an abusive relatioship. That makes sense rhat she still wants to have a connextion with her child who is the oldest and probably remembers. Maybe, but its a possibility. May their souls rest in peace.
so in Mary Jane case.. maybe her husband was abusive so she left? maybe she didnt want a huge family? Maybe she couldnt handle it? Dorothy's case isnt solved.
Blame the UA-cam algorithm! Veritaserum has a good video explaining all the stupid sh*t we see in youtube thumbnails like dumb faces and red arrows...science proves people click on these thumbnails more often, even if most people are openly against them, it's wild.
Guys, don’t finish this video. There is no insane twist whatsoever. He’s running out of content. There used to be twists, now there’s none. Wasted my time
00:06 Mary Jane Vangilder
14:03 Barbara Villarreal
20:22 Dorothy Thomas
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So horrible to have two missing children in the same family
😢 absolutely heart breaking, We just never know If we should be terrified and searching, or if a person just makes a selfish choice and hit the reset button, obviously without worry of the effect on the children, her parents, siblings 😭😔🙏🏽 it's just what she chose.
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Glad these cold cases are finally solved. Now there families can have some closure. I wonder what made Mary Jane leave her family, I wish she kept in touch with her kids. Rip Barbara and Dorothy
There's never closure. Sometimes maybe justice but closure never. That's something people like to say to make media, cops or whoever narrated the story feel better.
@@dianedavidson7977 ok. I have ever lost someone and they looked for him for 5years not knowing he was murdered and disposed of in a forest. Good thing he had his id in his pocket. Which the police used to know who he was. We were sad but happy that they had found him, we felt some closure coz we found him and buried him. At least now we know where he is. That's the kind of closure I was talking about.
@@dianedavidson7977closure is bc of the justice
@dianedavidson7977 I think in some cases people mean knowledge to help one grieve the truth. For an example, the person who's loved one disappeared and years later, they find them in a car at the bottom of a lake. People will never be able to move on completely from that. But they are no longer searching and spending their time needlessly looking and worrying on top of grieving. They can know what happened, bury them, have a service or memorial of some sort, and grieve that death like they should have done years ago had they known what happened.
I did not watch the whole video but in the case of Mary Jane- her children may never know why she left them. But they know she moved and started a new life without them. She did not end up being those random corpses found that they would worry about. She was out living a new life. Well I mean she was dead when they found her but she had lived to old age and probably died of something more natural. They can take the truth and can process it properly now.
@@dianedavidson7977 Thats why i say some closure coz they can't get full closure. But at least they know where there loved ones are and can stop searching and wondering what really happened to them. They can visit there graves and finally be able to sleep peacefully knowing where there loved one is. and also the victim getting justice. It brings some little closure to the loved ones.
It's 3 AM and it's time to sleep. I thank you for this 😌
does falling asleep while listening to these types of stories give you nightmares?
@@jlt131 actually it does sometimes 🤣
The scenery pictured for Dorothy Thomas's case is not of Tallahassee, Fl. I live there. No mountains in Florida. Period. But I'm glad her case was solved 🙏
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Dorothy looks like a young queen Elizabeth imo
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Sounds like the kids where better off without mary.
Sounds like mary was better off without her husband. Statitically she left because of an abusive husband. The 1930s weren't exactly supportive of battered wives.
@@TJ-tj9gb so just forget the kids huh? No, the fact that she was still in contact with her daughter when she needed things mailed tells me all I needed to know. She had the opportunity to still reach the kids...but chose not to.
@@theoneandonlymoni6204 Couldn't deduce the meaning of my post huh? The fact she did something so drastic is what made me believe she left a horrific situation to be better off. Sadly 1930s didn't support abused women. They were left with the choice of stay and be beaten (possibly to death) or leave the kids and start a new life. If you're running from a situation where you believe your life is in danger you'd be a moron if you keep in contact with anyone from back home. It could ruin all you've accomplished in escaping the aforementioned horrific situation
@@TJ-tj9gb she DID reach out to her kid...but for selfish reasons. So if that man really wanted to harm her he could have went to where she was mailing it from and got her there. Why even reach out at all is my question....if you are so scared why use your child in mailing scam. Also what about when the man died....still no communication to the kids?
@@TJ-tj9gbcould have also been a situation where the woman slept with another man. The husband could have kicked her out and told her to never come back. Men had a lot of power over their wives back then, and the wives cowered to men.
I always assume people like Mary Jane were in abusive relationships and escaped.
Doubt it
Absolutely. Especially in the 1930s. The police weren't as helpful to abused spouses back then. It was almost accepted as part of a marriage in those days
@@TJ-tj9gb still is, cops are especially abusive
I wondered the same thing...
It's just sad that five little kiddos didn't have a mama in West Virginia
I’m so glad that Barbara’s Mom got to see her daughter’s murderer go behind bars!!
Im always curious as to how can a woman that loves to be a mother just leaves their little children juat like that and start over aa if they were nothing. Never tried to reach out, or wpnder if theyre ok. Sounds like a sociopath only she was not a violent one. Crazy
Take a walk in someone else's shoes and just try to imagine when a wife couldn't leave her husband. Get used to it bc we are heading back in time. No divorce, forced pregnancies r**e and inc*"t included, no birth control so imagine and here we are in Texas and Florida, Alabama and many southern states. Get a grip on what's happening in 2024.
She was a horrible person . she sent bonds and then asked them back
@@dianedavidson7977WTH are you talking about? No divorce? No abortion availability blah blah? In 1945 you could marry and divorce 8-9 times. Women have left plenty since. You make it sound like caveman days 😂. Want to abort? Go to the state next door 🤷♀️
You shouldn't judge without knowing facts. Perhaps she was a battered wife. In those days, it wasn't against the law. Maybe the husband was never violent to the children and she knew they'd be well taken care of. The hardest thing for a mother, is to give up her children. Maybe she was an alcoholic? You don't know. Please don't judge anyone until you examine yourself. Best wishes.😊
@@sandeesimons6045exactly. He may have threatened her with killing them all if she came back as said we do not know.
My mom left for a pack of smokes in 1985 & still hasnt returned
😢 Don't you think she ran into trouble?
I’m so sorry
I had a patient tell me that about his father!
um, did i fall asleep during the part where they explained/figured out where the missing aunt went? because it seems like we just got the thing brought up to have it go, "oh and by the by, the poor dude wasn't the Only kid missing from that family... oh well. dropping that thread to go back to this other one."
like okay but Seriously... what happened to Clara??? why bring her into this if you're not going to tell us where *her* story ended up?
I’m so glad I’m not the only person because I was so confused 😓
People involved in military intelligence have reason at times to leave all and become someone else.
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is getting out of hand
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@ 6.48..his Remains were badly decomposed and spread out to about 75 feet ....😶
Mary just left her kids...even though she had the opportunity to connect with them but didnt is sad.
Lea county is pronounced LEE county. I know, I was born there!
Not even going to give any credit to Crime weekly? Without them the DNA wouldn't of been tested due to not having the money to get the said test done. It's common knowledge so i just feel it would've been polite to give credit where credit is due. So many "jane and john doe" cases don't get solved due to lack of expenses... it's sad and maybe things will get better in time. Anyway please spread the word so people like crime weekly can make money to help these cases...or you could do the same
Either way i hope next time y'all do better
💯, I actually was waiting to hear Stephanie Harlowe & Derrick Lavasseur’s names! ( for everyone else who may not be familiar; they are the hosts of Crime Weekly)
Interesting stories disturbing and sad
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Mary Jean took off for a reason and i bet her husband knows why. The fact that was an incredible mom and grand mom after says it all.
It certainly seems like some family members know more than they are letting on. As with that generation so much is taboo and hushed up
@velocitygirl8551 she was a liar . Why hake thee war bonds back
That to profess to love and subsequently leave is something only men do is one of the cruelest myths of our time.
Mary Jane was an awful person!!
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What a horrible woman - no telling what this woman did before she got to sick -
😢😢😢😢😢😢 so sorry! You can never run from the truth ! Thankyou GOD! for my plane and simple life! YOU ARE MY EVERYTHING! THEN MY CHILDERN AND MY GRANDCHILDREN! ❤❤❤❤❤
In the Mary Jane case, I know we shouldn’t judge. However, it never cease to amaze me that whenever women do something that might be considered wrong or hurtful to others, we always find an excuse for them. If a man ran away and left his family and wife, we would consider him to be some sort of a bum. If a woman does it, we automatically assume, she must’ve been abused. Maybe she was, we will never know. I just think it’s unfair to label this woman’s first husband as a possible abuser. Maybe she just fell out of love with him. Or maybe she didn’t like the circumstances of her life. Sometimes we make choices when we’re very young that later on we might considered a mistake. After all the woman married at 17! I make no judgments upon her. I just wanna show some compassion for the husband and family she left behind.
In case 1, what a terrible mother. Who does that?
I would lay money down that she was being abused by her husband, and that's why. Back then, if a woman left her husband for any reason other than him cheating on her (and sometimes not even then), he would keep custody of the children, and she would not have the option to get them. Being abused, probably raped (and marital rape was legal until the 1990s in the US), everyone has their breaking point.
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Why send the bonds if she wanted them back
Maybw ahe truatwd her child and the child did what the mom asked. Lots of people here saying sounds like she was in an abusive relatioship. That makes sense rhat she still wants to have a connextion with her child who is the oldest and probably remembers. Maybe, but its a possibility. May their souls rest in peace.
money laundering.
that's what it seems to be anyway. still no idea about why she'd do that though even. whole thing seems a mess.
so in Mary Jane case.. maybe her husband was abusive so she left? maybe she didnt want a huge family? Maybe she couldnt handle it? Dorothy's case isnt solved.
That last story is totally pointless.
I could never have left my children. I would give my life for any of them. She could have gotten a divorce if she didn’t love her husband.
This garden gummy needs to put me to sleep bc i just couldn't keep up with tmit going in circles. 🤦
Mary Jane just wanted to be a wife and mother (which she did in her new life)and would have stuck around and done that if she could have!
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@@User04678name so are bots
You don't have to use stupid red arrows in your thumbnails. We know where to look without them.
Blame the UA-cam algorithm! Veritaserum has a good video explaining all the stupid sh*t we see in youtube thumbnails like dumb faces and red arrows...science proves people click on these thumbnails more often, even if most people are openly against them, it's wild.
Guys, don’t finish this video. There is no insane twist whatsoever. He’s running out of content. There used to be twists, now there’s none. Wasted my time
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