I had a wooden boat when I was young and I loved it because it rode the wave so smooth and comfortable. I have owned 17 boats over the years and nothing will ever compare to the wooden boat I had. It died to dry rot but will love it forever.
Just come across this, I have read your book Working Sail, brilliant book, project like this are invaluable, traditional skills needs to be passed on, once lost they are gone forever
God bless you and your supporters... Part of my family left the UK back in the early 1600s pm a wooden ship... and it's an art form that most definitely needs to be preserved.
What a beautiful boat ! I always loved Falmouth Pilot Cutters, they make me remember all the old Tilman stories, when he sailed these boats to Greenland and Patagonia. Its a good thing to know, that young people learn the almost forgotten trade. I wish you all the best with your project.
That must have been a great experience to witness a SCOD come together in the back yard. The dark material that is used for bonding and making joints waterproof is tar. There was not much glue used on the hull, all fastened with copper. I remember they used Epoxy to glue the stern post into the keel though.
I was introduced to your project by Leo of Tally Ho fame. You sure have built a mighty fine ship, that's for sure. Its wonderful to see young people learning these vital skills, with out these projects yet another skill would die. Well done and keep up the good works, she is looking gorgeous
Love old wooden boats. My Father was a wooden boat builder right after he got out of the Army after WWII. He did not build big sailboats, he worked on smaller motor boats for the Trojan Boat Company in Lancaster, PA. I still have a couple of his tools and a can of Bronze screws swept up off of the floor. I partially rebuilt a 1946 Chris Craft Cruiser, which had a double planked wood hull.
I'm also here because of the Tally Ho video featuring your project. Best of luck with your ventures. I think you are doing something very worthwhile and I hope you have many young boat builders working with you in future.
'we use planking that fits the boat.' Always helpful that Luke, lol. Well done with the ethos of your work, and I am sure wooden boats will come back into fashion within a few months; and then u will be a King of all the earth.
Yes, another one here due to Tally Ho. Watching this, I can see where Leo got his skills. Thanks to him, I have learned enough about wooden boat building to recognize the bits you are making and installing here, and they look very familiar.
Stunning my friend, I would love to have an opportunity to visit when next in Cornwall. I served my time working as an apprentice in the Thames ship/boat yards and appreciate the work you are doing keeping the skills alive. So many crafts have been diminishing. (I won’t go into the politics) I warms me to see they are thriving in the west. 👍🏻
Thank you for your comment, I will gladly pass it on. Yes, unfortunately it is a lot down to politics, that's one reason why this project is happening in Cornwall where it was welcome by the authorities. Luke Powell and his team are always open to visitors if you happen to pass by Truro.
So eine coole Idee ... wow ... ich habe ja "nur" einen alten Pilot Cutter 30 von Cornish Crabbers restauriert ... Segelnummer 8 - naja - ausser der Schale - die zugegeben aus handlaminiertem GFK ist, haben wir alles neu und ich Holz gemacht, ganz anders also als das Britische Original. Schon das war eine Sauarbeit. mso schöner zu sehen, wie hier ein "echter" Pilo Cutter aus Holz entsteht. Danke für das Video. Leider kann ich nicht zu meinem - der obwohl aus GFK mein Hezstück ist - da uns Corona ins Haus bannt. Aber das ist bald Geschichte und dann hole ich den Ostertörn nach. Sollte ich jemals wieder ein Boot Refitten wollen, wende ich mich an Dich. Ich biete meinen PilotCutter übrigens als Probe-Klassiker-Segel-Urlaubs-Charter-Schiff an. Mich hat es immer gewurmt, warum man nur die neuen Jogurtbecher chartern kann ... (Wer will wird auch begleitet und gecoached.)
A sail on her, not a ride on it. Think Mary might have had a few clarets that day. And why not? Bless her. And all who sail in her. The Pellew, that is.
Hi Bob. Thank you for your interest. Unfortunately I personally haven't been able to be on site for a while ( I will be there for a very quick visit next weekend but probably not long enough to do any film work...). The most recent updates can be found on the Facebook Page of the project: facebook.com/FalmouthPilotCutterPellew
Norwegians looked down their noses at larch planking, as an "inferior wood", preferring to use pine. Even given slow growing Nordic trees, this was reason giving way to a little scandi chauvinism.
Larch was fully accepted as a good Wood for underwater Construction. Above water the Norwegians did no like it, it was known to shrink. The spruice above the 67th parallell was considered as good as the pine for planking. For ribs and knees they digged up the roots of mountain pines, they did not rot.Nowadays the Norwegians are building Viking ships, one 30 meters in length is just finished here.Some youths have built a 120 ft schooner, about a year ago.
Perhaps the Norwegian vessels I worked on in the 1970s and 80s were poor examples, but I was surprised by how generally soft they were, given the heritage. They would have benefited from having a quality larch skin. Of course you will know there's wood and there's wood. Larch logs of the best quality had no shrinkage issues I can recall and When all is said and done you use the best material that is available and tradition grows around that. I use past tense since much of the best quality timber has been exausted, a sad maxim the world over.
After WW2 a lot of vessels were built in Norway based on Methods developed for the Construction of minesweepers. The materials were not selected and dried like before the war. By 1970 just about all these vessels were gone. Those that remained were built up to 1917. Let me add that back when we bought sailing Craft from the UK those usually had 3" skin planking, where Norwegian vessels had 2 1/2"
Floro, perhaps we have drifted slightly from my original point. I simply questioned the Norwegian attitude I had encountered, towards a robust and durable medium, whilst presenting for repair, vessels manifestly wanting. I believe those boats were simply not built for the rigours of the industry at the time. An adherence to traditional building methods and materials, whilst installing ever bigger engines and winches, being their downfall. In contrast, the all oak Danish boats coped well with machinery upgrades. They were sturdy craft indeed, and their design adopted for building by Scottish yards. I had a time running a slipway, which affords a unique perspective, particularly on the relative rigidity of vessels. Those which flop around when retrieved from the water, or "hog" over their lifetime, and those that keep there integrity, is not defined by national boundaries. I simply state again those Norwegian boats would have benefited, if built from of something more robust. You can be forgiven for saying it is me who has drifted off topic, and I suspect you feel we are referring to entirely different strand of the industry. Unwittingly, I have probably highlighted the rationale for the demise of timber building. When I was employed in the industry, it was a living breathing commercial product. That is gone now. What remains is dependant on tenuous societal whim for retaining our heritage.
Why not use modern skills to build a trad wooden boat? Modern tools and design/fab techniques might speed things up and make such a boat less ludicously expensive
It would be interesting to know the wooden fishermen sailing boatbuilders of the states Ceará and Maranhão, in northen Brazil. They build carveel planked boats up 50 ft and probably much cheaper than European. But their skill is vanishing as generations are gone.
Slot screws are stupid because they can get easily stripped. Nobody has had the brains to manufacture screws with a triangular insert. It is foolproof and cannot get stripped.
Nice sentiments but reality sucks. With the cost of wood, labour etc, building and owning / maintaining a wooden boat is is well out of most people's reach like it was 100 plus years ago..
It turns out it's all a question of money and nothing else. A sad world we live in. Why is it so ridiculously expensive to build a wooden vessel in the western world? On the other side of the world wooden boats are continously built and traditions live on.
G’day guys, what’s everyone current/latest boat project? Mine was a classic styled plywood standup paddle board. Has anyone else built anything like this before? ua-cam.com/video/zNT1OivR23I/v-deo.html
Not a Fan Of Tally Hoe I’m in the home building business and reminds me of the DYI neghbor that asks to help build his fence for hot dogs and beer. Sell his home for a huge profit with the free labor and brags how much money he made .
Wow! Someone very jealous of Leo crawled out from a smelly crack somewhere. As a house carpenter, you don't really know much compared to a shipwright. I know because I've been both.
I had a wooden boat when I was young and I loved it because it rode the wave so smooth and comfortable. I have owned 17 boats over the years and nothing will ever compare to the wooden boat I had. It died to dry rot but will love it forever.
Just come across this, I have read your book Working Sail, brilliant book, project like this are invaluable, traditional skills needs to be passed on, once lost they are gone forever
God bless you and your supporters... Part of my family left the UK back in the early 1600s pm a wooden ship... and it's an art form that most definitely needs to be preserved.
What a beautiful boat ! I always loved Falmouth Pilot Cutters, they make me remember all the old Tilman stories, when he sailed these boats to Greenland and Patagonia.
Its a good thing to know, that young people learn the almost forgotten trade. I wish you all the best with your project.
Absolutely wonderful, beautiful lines. Dad built a SCOD in the drive 50 yrs ago so this really takes me back. Is that dark glue Ricorcinol? Lovely.
That must have been a great experience to witness a SCOD come together in the back yard.
The dark material that is used for bonding and making joints waterproof is tar. There was not much glue used on the hull, all fastened with copper. I remember they used Epoxy to glue the stern post into the keel though.
I was introduced to your project by Leo of Tally Ho fame. You sure have built a mighty fine ship, that's for sure. Its wonderful to see young people learning these vital skills, with out these projects yet another skill would die. Well done and keep up the good works, she is looking gorgeous
Love old wooden boats. My Father was a wooden boat builder right after he got out of the Army after WWII. He did not build big sailboats, he worked on smaller motor boats for the Trojan Boat Company in Lancaster, PA. I still have a couple of his tools and a can of Bronze screws swept up off of the floor.
I partially rebuilt a 1946 Chris Craft Cruiser, which had a double planked wood hull.
An exciting and most worthy endeavour in the tradition of Shipshape and Bristol fashion. May you be blessed with the greatest success.
Im so glad that young people are still learning the trade, from a 15 y.o. boy from the philippines. I am very fond of wooden boats.
I'm also here because of the Tally Ho video featuring your project. Best of luck with your ventures. I think you are doing something very worthwhile and I hope you have many young boat builders working with you in future.
Thank you, I will gladly pass that on :-)
Love Tally Ho. Thankful the skills are being passed on.
Awesome stuff. Here because of Tally Ho and Patrick O'Brian.
'we use planking that fits the boat.' Always helpful that Luke, lol. Well done with the ethos of your work, and I am sure wooden boats will come back into fashion within a few months; and then u will be a King of all the earth.
Same as most newbies - here because of Tally Ho - great introduction
Thank you Craig!
Thank you for posting. Thank you for your vision.
Beautiful story. Beautiful work.
I like what you and leo are doing and I appreciate the skills you use and share.
Yes, another one here due to Tally Ho. Watching this, I can see where Leo got his skills. Thanks to him, I have learned enough about wooden boat building to recognize the bits you are making and installing here, and they look very familiar.
I wish that I were a young man again so that I could be a part of the preservation of these wonderful crafts.
Oh, to be 20 again and come across a video like this.
A fan of Tally Ho and from Truro,Nova Scotia.
Truro, Massachusettes here..
used to go to an orthodontist in Truro ns😁
Keep up this good work - it is important !
from a Norwegian woodworker
Thank you, I will gladly pass that on.
What an excellent idea/project!
A wonderful idea.
beautiful work good job
Here because of Tally Ho too.
Stunning my friend, I would love to have an opportunity to visit when next in Cornwall. I served my time working as an apprentice in the Thames ship/boat yards and appreciate the work you are doing keeping the skills alive. So many crafts have been diminishing. (I won’t go into the politics) I warms me to see they are thriving in the west. 👍🏻
Thank you for your comment, I will gladly pass it on. Yes, unfortunately it is a lot down to politics, that's one reason why this project is happening in Cornwall where it was welcome by the authorities. Luke Powell and his team are always open to visitors if you happen to pass by Truro.
Well done!!! Keep doing it
Love this stuff, Tally Ho, Acorn to Arabella et al, Hope you video and post the launch at the end of the month, may you have fair winds, Chris
Likewise here because of Tally Ho. Saw your interview with Leo.
So eine coole Idee ... wow ... ich habe ja "nur" einen alten Pilot Cutter 30 von Cornish Crabbers restauriert ... Segelnummer 8 - naja - ausser der Schale - die zugegeben aus handlaminiertem GFK ist, haben wir alles neu und ich Holz gemacht, ganz anders also als das Britische Original. Schon das war eine Sauarbeit. mso schöner zu sehen, wie hier ein "echter" Pilo Cutter aus Holz entsteht. Danke für das Video. Leider kann ich nicht zu meinem - der obwohl aus GFK mein Hezstück ist - da uns Corona ins Haus bannt. Aber das ist bald Geschichte und dann hole ich den Ostertörn nach. Sollte ich jemals wieder ein Boot Refitten wollen, wende ich mich an Dich. Ich biete meinen PilotCutter übrigens als Probe-Klassiker-Segel-Urlaubs-Charter-Schiff an. Mich hat es immer gewurmt, warum man nur die neuen Jogurtbecher chartern kann ... (Wer will wird auch begleitet und gecoached.)
Lindo trabajo .
Los felicito 🙂🇦🇷
Beautiful!
Here because of Tally Ho.
Ditto
Me too. Just seen Leo's video of his latest visit.
Ditto. What a great idea, who knows how many other 'dying' industries could likewise benefit. Best of luck!
Tally Ho and Marie Victoire! (L Giles)
Ditto
Good one Luke You gave me to an aspiring rebuilding and sailing. From Brett and Grant the africans
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Looks like hard work!
Very well made. Like and share!
Thank you David!
I'm here because of Tally Ho, fallen in love with Pilot Cutters x
Usted hace un trabajo super grandioso!!!!!
De que país son???
Me gustaría trabajar con ustedes!!!!
Mi sueño y mi pasión son los veleros!!!!
A sail on her, not a ride on it. Think Mary might have had a few clarets that day. And why not? Bless her. And all who sail in her. The Pellew, that is.
Every boat needs maintenence ,there is no such thing ,there is no answer in boat building ,😊😊😊
Great stuff! Thanks
what would me a boat cost per kilo in this modern way with all. the new tools its amazing to see
and i am in search of a vessel
offcours i will work with all you amazing people and makle my hands dirty too beecaus its my way
It's a wonder, what kind of wood was used? I live in Brazil, I do not speak English very well.
It's mainly oak.
Do you follow Odd Life Crafting in your home country? Lovely smart couple outfitting their dream boat.
Good luck she's a beauty
And the wine is Porto!
Here because of Tally Ho as well
When someone's talking, what's the background music for?
Oh, and btw, I am not here because of Tally Ho, even though I do watch Leo's channel avidly.
Beautiful work
Love the curves . the sea will clap when they meet
Please tell shipping manufacturing wood
Are there any updates to this project please? Thanks
Hi Bob. Thank you for your interest. Unfortunately I personally haven't been able to be on site for a while ( I will be there for a very quick visit next weekend but probably not long enough to do any film work...). The most recent updates can be found on the Facebook Page of the project: facebook.com/FalmouthPilotCutterPellew
Here because of Tally Ho :)
Many British sailing vessels were bought by Norwegians from about 1905. Many felt uncomfortable in them, could not trust sawed ribs!
Norwegians looked down their noses at larch planking, as an "inferior wood", preferring to use pine. Even given slow growing Nordic trees, this was reason giving way to a little scandi chauvinism.
Larch was fully accepted as a good Wood for underwater Construction. Above water the Norwegians did no like it, it was known to shrink. The spruice above the 67th parallell was considered as good as the pine for planking. For ribs and knees they digged up the roots of mountain pines, they did not rot.Nowadays the Norwegians are building Viking ships, one 30 meters in length is just finished here.Some youths have built a 120 ft schooner, about a year ago.
Perhaps the Norwegian vessels I worked on in the 1970s and 80s were poor examples, but I was surprised by how generally soft they were, given the heritage. They would have benefited from having a quality larch skin. Of course you will know there's wood and there's wood. Larch logs of the best quality had no shrinkage issues I can recall and When all is said and done you use the best material that is available and tradition grows around that. I use past tense since much of the best quality timber has been exausted, a sad maxim the world over.
After WW2 a lot of vessels were built in Norway based on Methods developed for the Construction of minesweepers. The materials were not selected and dried like before the war. By 1970 just about all these vessels were gone. Those that remained were built up to 1917. Let me add that back when we bought sailing Craft from the UK those usually had 3" skin planking, where Norwegian vessels had 2 1/2"
Floro, perhaps we have drifted slightly from my original point. I simply questioned the Norwegian attitude I had encountered, towards a robust and durable medium, whilst presenting for repair, vessels manifestly wanting. I believe those boats were simply not built for the rigours of the industry at the time. An adherence to traditional building methods and materials, whilst installing ever bigger engines and winches, being their downfall. In contrast, the all oak Danish boats coped well with machinery upgrades. They were sturdy craft indeed, and their design adopted for building by Scottish yards. I had a time running a slipway, which affords a unique perspective, particularly on the relative rigidity of vessels. Those which flop around when retrieved from the water, or "hog" over their lifetime, and those that keep there integrity, is not defined by national boundaries. I simply state again those Norwegian boats would have benefited, if built from of something more robust. You can be forgiven for saying it is me who has drifted off topic, and I suspect you feel we are referring to entirely different strand of the industry. Unwittingly, I have probably highlighted the rationale for the demise of timber building. When I was employed in the industry, it was a living breathing commercial product. That is gone now. What remains is dependant on tenuous societal whim for retaining our heritage.
Why not use modern skills to build a trad wooden boat? Modern tools and design/fab techniques might speed things up and make such a boat less ludicously expensive
They are and said so in the video. You think they had gas chainsaws and electric planers back in the day?
It would be interesting to know the wooden fishermen sailing boatbuilders of the states Ceará and Maranhão, in northen Brazil. They build carveel planked boats up 50 ft and probably much cheaper than European.
But their skill is vanishing as generations are gone.
Ship's saw alert 4:27
Here because of Tally Ho
Slot screws are stupid because they can get easily stripped.
Nobody has had the brains to manufacture screws with a triangular insert.
It is foolproof and cannot get stripped.
Leo sent me
Nice sentiments but reality sucks. With the cost of wood, labour etc, building and owning / maintaining a wooden boat is is well out of most people's reach like it was 100 plus years ago..
It turns out it's all a question of money and nothing else. A sad world we live in. Why is it so ridiculously expensive to build a wooden vessel in the western world? On the other side of the world wooden boats are continously built and traditions live on.
G’day guys, what’s everyone current/latest boat project? Mine was a classic styled plywood standup paddle board. Has anyone else built anything like this before? ua-cam.com/video/zNT1OivR23I/v-deo.html
A lost art, but you need to embrace the future, make a mould and build a bunch
I want to build a boat and set sail.. away from society
craftsmen build the boats, but only financial parasites possess them.
Not a Fan Of Tally Hoe I’m in the home building business and reminds me of the DYI neghbor that asks to help build his fence for hot dogs and beer. Sell his home for a huge profit with the free labor and brags how much money he made .
Richard Thomas You must be a truly happy chap with such a temperament.
Wow! Someone very jealous of Leo crawled out from a smelly crack somewhere. As a house carpenter, you don't really know much compared to a shipwright. I know because I've been both.