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Why is my Turntable so Quiet? Preamps Explained

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  • Опубліковано 13 сер 2017
  • So you finally got a record player, hook it up to your system, only to find that the sound is super quiet? It's just not loud enough for you to even remotely enjoy your music? No worries, all you need is a phono preamp which is a tool that most turntable users need (some turntable have built in phono preamps). This video will also explain why phono preamplifiers are necessary.

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  • @cukedaddy
    @cukedaddy 6 років тому +30

    The video only is for people using powered speakers or with no receiver that has a phono in.

  • @CooperUllmann
    @CooperUllmann 4 роки тому +7

    Could this also be why there is minimal bass output as well?

  • @Kingfisher1060
    @Kingfisher1060 Рік тому

    Oh thank you oh why is one you saved me a lot of money and I didn't think APL7 Pioneer would actually show me but you're incredible checks in the mail for a 100 million

  • @DjPhaseFour
    @DjPhaseFour 5 років тому +2

    This can work the other way don't plug a hot line level into a phonostage unless you buying a new one. This actually happened to friend of mine way back 97 or so. He plugged the master out of his dj mixer into the phono input on his receiver and blew it right out.

  • @6lezzy
    @6lezzy 4 роки тому +4

    I have a Pro-Ject III connected to a Sony HT-GT, I can only hear it quietly if I turn it right up. Do I need a Phono Pre-Amp?

  • @udeadinaflash
    @udeadinaflash 5 років тому +3

    Okay I need some help here, I’m new to all this and have quiet sound coming out of my speakers, however, I have it hooked through a stereo that has the built in phono input. Here’s my setup. A Philips 437 Synchro Belt Drive turntable going into a Realistic Modulette 939 stereo with built in phono, then straight to some realistic speakers, as well as into my Bose surround sound system. The stereo works well through the speakers, but records are kinda fuzzy and quiet

    • @dominiquehoeijmans6952
      @dominiquehoeijmans6952 4 роки тому

      udeadinaflash 1999 you probably have a MM setup and your phone input is build for a MC setup (much higher output volume)

  • @hazimsulaiman4662
    @hazimsulaiman4662 6 років тому +3

    Hi. I have a vintage 1976 Sanyo GXT 4515 XK record player that has built-in amp, with aux & phono switch at the front and ‘aux in’ plug at behind. Is that okay if I want to connect my current Sanyo table with any external amplifier e.g like Pioneer SX-550 amplifier regardless it has its own built-in amplifier? Would that be any issue? If yes, how do I do it?

  • @bhawksley13
    @bhawksley13 3 роки тому +1

    If you have a Phono option already it should work. Worked on mine!

    • @mynameishall8736
      @mynameishall8736 Рік тому +1

      I have a Yamaha A770 and the phono option is there, but it still sounds muted and at high volumes still sounds scratchy and off. I bought a phono preamp from Pro-Ject and it's louder but still sounds like the voice and music is being played through a can. Can't figure out what is wrong.

  • @AW-pp4ss
    @AW-pp4ss 3 роки тому +6

    My turntable came with a built in preamp, so does this mean I just need an amp? (Audio technica LP 120XUSB) I read some people cut their built in AT ones out and replace them.

    • @billyblueberry
      @billyblueberry 3 роки тому +3

      That's a great beginner turntable, you don't need a new pre-amp, it'll work great with whatever sound setup you have.

  • @Ulsternial
    @Ulsternial 3 роки тому +2

    What’s a preamp and wear can I buy one?

  • @brandeeperez177
    @brandeeperez177 5 років тому

    I have a Victrola 8in1 entertainment center the speakers are not loud enough. Can I attach a bigger speaker without using Bluetooth ?

  • @headlikeahole
    @headlikeahole 4 роки тому +2

    I've just moved from a passive system with an old hefty wharfdale amp to two active Klipsch speakers. Digital music is so loud but vinyl is super quiet. My turntable is a shit one, Ion, but never needed a pre amp with my amplifier.
    It's not ridiculously quiet like, it's listenable but the sound fails to fill the room. Will adding a pre amp to active speakers do the trick or this that a huge no no?

    • @greensharpie6829
      @greensharpie6829 2 роки тому +1

      Hey man, experiencing the same problem you described. Moved to new powered speakers (Klipsch as well actually) with built in received and thought sound was unsatisfactory. Averagely loud but nothing crazy. Thought maybe the speakers just weren’t too nice but connected to my phone and the sound is much louder and amazing. Did you find any solution to this?

    • @headlikeahole
      @headlikeahole 2 роки тому

      @@greensharpie6829 new turntable worked a treat for me. It had a better built in pre amp and sounds like a dream. Adding a preamp should work though

  • @randygray8921
    @randygray8921 3 роки тому

    I'm trying to get a turntable w preamp to work w my receiver, a Denon avr 1613. Non power speakers. Just straight old/new school setup. Turntable set to line and plugged into CD on the denon but still no sound. Any tips?

  • @fredriknerli9197
    @fredriknerli9197 Рік тому

    I have a preamp and they are still not loud

  • @tinevm6396
    @tinevm6396 5 років тому

    I am considering of buying the new Lenco ls300 including external speakers. I'm confused whether it has a preamp or not or whether the speakers have a built in amp... Do you have any idea?

  • @Blugharm
    @Blugharm 5 років тому +3

    I got Audio Technica atlp120 with a build in preamp, today I bhought Edifier speakers with build in amp. Still it's supet quiet!! Why the hell I need phono preamp, when I was told that I got everything it needs for playing records???

    • @nerdyneedsalife8315
      @nerdyneedsalife8315 5 років тому +4

      This is a stupid question but do you have the switch selected for phono or line?

    • @nerdyneedsalife8315
      @nerdyneedsalife8315 5 років тому +5

      The switch you want to select is line because your preamp in the turntable will then be selected

    • @johnreder8167
      @johnreder8167 5 років тому +1

      @@nerdyneedsalife8315 not stupid at all for beginners! thank you so much man

    • @nerdyneedsalife8315
      @nerdyneedsalife8315 5 років тому +1

      @@johnreder8167 No problem. I hope you have a good listen to your records.

  • @z.martinez1986
    @z.martinez1986 5 років тому +3

    Have my turntable plugged into a pioneer receiver vsx-517 and experience low sound do i still require a pre amp into receiver?

  • @Rylaaaa
    @Rylaaaa 5 років тому

    Help! I have my audio technica turntable connected via line connection to My audio engine powered a2 speakers but there’s really bad humming coming out with or without music player. But it’s a line connection? It shouldn’t happen I’m told?

    • @dannybfs
      @dannybfs 4 роки тому +1

      Is the turntable grounded?

  • @Caifo
    @Caifo 5 років тому

    My Onkyo receiver has phono inputs. However, I have to raise the volume to 55 or 60 to get a barely decent sound. Why is that? Do I have to buy a phono preamp and plug it to the line input? Will this make a difference?

    • @eddysal6163
      @eddysal6163 4 роки тому

      My Onkyo amplifier phono volume is low too unlike my marantz PM5006. Have you figured the solution?

  • @deniscullis8518
    @deniscullis8518 6 років тому

    Thanks for your help u are a gent xxden

  • @DrPuckenstein
    @DrPuckenstein 5 років тому

    I have this exact setup but with a cheap audiotechnica turntable and Insignia powered speakers. It was only moderately loud with the volume all the way up. I bought this same pre amp and hooked it up today. It's louder, but not by much. And I have to turn the gain way up. What should I do...new turntable, speakers or both?

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  5 років тому

      Which cartridge do you have?

    • @DrPuckenstein
      @DrPuckenstein 5 років тому

      @@Audiorpheus_Vinyl whatever came with the LP60

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  5 років тому

      The LP60 already has a phono preamp built into it. When plugging into the artdj you need to flip the switch on the back from “line” to “phono”. If that doesn’t work try plugging your speakers into something else to see if they produce the volume you want.

    • @DrPuckenstein
      @DrPuckenstein 5 років тому

      @@Audiorpheus_Vinyl Many thanks. Yes, i knew about the line/phono. I just played the speakers via bluetooth and spotify on my macbook and yes, I think you are right. Just not very powerful (Insignia bookshelf) speakers.

  • @doctorfeinstone6524
    @doctorfeinstone6524 4 роки тому

    So why do some turntables need this and others don't?

    • @elizabethc.z
      @elizabethc.z 3 роки тому

      Some turntables come with a built-in preamp.

  • @trippnface
    @trippnface 6 років тому +1

    I thought it is bad to go from phono pre amp directly to speaker?

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  6 років тому +4

      Yes, you need two amps. A phono preamp amp, make sure it’s “phono”, that’s the type of signal that comes out of a cartridge. Then you need a speaker amp. Some speakers have built in amps and others don’t.

    • @trippnface
      @trippnface 6 років тому +1

      Bear with me haha.
      So proper setup would be turntable ---> pre amp -----> speaker?
      There is no danger/ equipment risk in above mentioned set up?
      Also, My powered speakers only have XLR inputs. Does that mean I am looking for a phono pre amp that takes TRS jacks, to keep the " balanced" signal?
      thanks for help!

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  6 років тому +2

      Yes you are correct. No damage or danger! Look for a preamp like this and you will be golden www.avshop.ca/dj-equipment-turntable-accessories-phono-preamps/iconnectivity-spinxlr-phono-preamp-open-box?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2cP4n-SU2gIVVG1-Ch20nAPoEAQYAiABEgLsBfD_BwE

    • @trippnface
      @trippnface 6 років тому

      Thanks man

  • @aidenharrah8261
    @aidenharrah8261 6 років тому +1

    Does the Audio Technica atlp60 have a built in preamp? Kind of a dumb question but I really don’t understand this stuff quite yet.

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  6 років тому +1

      Yes it does!

    • @txto.4394
      @txto.4394 6 років тому

      Audiorpheus so that means we dont need any other things?

    • @txto.4394
      @txto.4394 6 років тому

      Audiorpheus besides the speaker and atlp60?

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  6 років тому

      Are your speakers active or passive (do you plug them into the wall or into a receiver?). And do your speakers take rca in? (white and red plug)

    • @txto.4394
      @txto.4394 6 років тому

      Audiorpheus oh well im not sure cuz i dont have speakers nor turntable but if you could help me on the right track it would help alot

  • @cmclbeats
    @cmclbeats 3 роки тому

    I thought active speakers meant you didn't need this.
    But I am having this problem

    • @FreddyJ120
      @FreddyJ120 2 роки тому

      Active speakers have an amplifier, but no phono preamp. If your turntable has a ‘phono/line’ switch (usually on the back of the turntable), then it has a phono preamp built in. Switch it to ‘line’ and problem solved. If your turntable doesn’t have one of those switches, then it doesn’t have a phono preamp built in - you’ll need a separate preamp for your turntable between it and the active speakers.

  • @rickrickrick5317
    @rickrickrick5317 5 років тому

    Does a Stanton T-92 require a preamp? The first one I’ve owned I just plugged my speaker directly to the audio output and it worked perfectly fine with loud sounds. However the second one I have here could only deliver quiet to nonexistent sounds when I tried to directly plug it into my speaker.

  • @miriammccoy2283
    @miriammccoy2283 6 років тому

    I have a JVC QL-A200, do i need one?

  • @LyraniaLothar
    @LyraniaLothar 6 років тому

    I have a Yamaha RX-V831, do I need a preamp?

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  6 років тому +1

      Yes, that is a beautiful machine, but you still need a phono preamp between it and your turntablr

  • @hywelnash1954
    @hywelnash1954 6 років тому

    Im plugging my turntables​ into my XDJ-Rx and am still experiencing the same problem. I thought the mixer would act as an amp but even with trim and master vol at max it is still very quiet. Help?

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  6 років тому

      Hello, with turntables you need a preamp before the amp. Hence the “pre” amp

    • @PhuckHue2
      @PhuckHue2 5 років тому

      It has to be a preamp with RIAA equalization

  • @rlwings
    @rlwings 6 років тому +9

    Why is your video so quiet?

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  6 років тому

      Haha, yeah.... I’ve been going back through some of my older videos and adding music.

    • @sneskid78
      @sneskid78 5 років тому

      In addition to bringing the cartridge output up to line level, a phono preamp like the one in this video, also boosts up the low end and greatly reduces the highs. This equalization is important, as all modern records (post mid-1950s) were pressed using the RIAA equalization curve standard. During the mastering process, the bass is rolled off and the treble is boosted in order to keep low bass passages from causing problems during play. The equalizer that is built into the phono preamp does exactly the opposite, making it everything sound normal again.

    • @bartologomez9309
      @bartologomez9309 5 років тому

      Because he doesn’t have a preamp lmao jk

  • @yohanmarchena9599
    @yohanmarchena9599 3 роки тому

    Can you still use a preamp if you using a mixer?

    • @pedro3dynamite
      @pedro3dynamite 3 роки тому

      I just got some albums from a friend. I typically play them on my Sony turntable but got out my Technics. Hooked it straight into my surround sound system. Wasn't loud at all. So I brought out my old Radio Shack Realistic mixer. Forgot all I had to do was connect it to the phono input! Hahahha! Cranking up some old Ted Nugent and the Amboy Dukes ☺️

  • @MacXpert74
    @MacXpert74 6 років тому +1

    When I clicked on the video I thought is was going to be about something you've done to you turntable to get a minimal amount of rumble or motor noise. But it turns out it's a video for noobs that don't know they need a proper phono amp. ;D