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- Опубліковано 7 лис 2024
- In this FIRST Deadwax episode of SEASON TWO, Ryan and Jack dive deep into the Radiohead universe, unraveling the brilliance behind “Bodysnatchers.” As the duo dissects the track, they explore the intricate layers of instrumentation, Thom Yorke’s haunting vocals, and the song’s unique ability to blend frenetic energy with haunting beauty, making a compelling case for why “Bodysnatchers” stands as an absolute masterpiece in Radiohead’s illustrious discography
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Thom's tone in Bodysnatchers was done by him plugging his Telecaster directly into Nigel Godrich's Electrodyne 1204 console. What you're hearing is preamp distortion / fuzz, no amp. It's one of the Motown consoles. A lot of what you hear is Thom and Ed instead of Jonny, I think.
John Fruscainte used to do that too I think.
Colin's bass playing is so so underrated. He's a beast.
This is the kind of nerdy analysis I crave. I could listen to you go through the whole album this way.
The Dissect Podcast did just that!
Thom and Ed play a lot of those guitar parts that are being accounted to Jonny. Maybe check the Live from the basement version for extra details. they play it basically verbatim.
It was basically recorded live in the studio for the album too.
It's so fun to watch them play live. It's like playing I Spy to figure out which part is coming from where haha
Ed really makes the weird Radiohead sound. You really see it in live performances and his diary from the Kid A recording days
Yeah, Ed's being forgotten, lol
I think ed is doing the wah in half position during the verse and the ambient reverby bit in the bridge. Jonny does all the well.... crazy Jonny bits lol
@12:41 - PSA: It's Thom playing the rhythm guitar in the intro. This was a fun discussion! You guys had some great observations. The Dissect podcast also has a great season breaking down In Rainbows for anyone wanting to continue the deep dive. Bonus points for Jack's "puking out your soul" Yorke impression.
Was gonna comment this. That guitar is going direct into Nigel’s Neve console. That’s where that crazy blown out distortion is coming from.
Yup. There’s a “in the basement” live version of this song that shows who’s playing what
Yeah I wondered why they didn't think of DI, he pretty much said it when he said how usually amps roll off the highs, so if you skip the amp you get that top end @@davidduarte2887
I’m always surprised at some of the riffs that end up being Thom playing while also singing. He incredibly talented and not often enough recognized for his playing.
@@ericnowak9497 yeah that stuff is difficult and he pulls it off great. Underrated guitarist.
I think the main guitar part that starts the song is actually Thom, maybe going direct through a cranked console like The Beatles Revolution. Jonny plays that chorus guitar part. Then Jonny may have overdubbed the Martenot. At the end it could be Ed doing the atmospheric stuff with his sustainer guitar. Really cool, great song
It's for sure Thom Yorke playing direct into the desk. Nigel Godrich supposedly had this old Motown desk and they plugged it in and cranked it (just like you mention in Revolution). Google will find multiple sources to verify this.
They've confirmed it. They go straight into a Neve console.
I came here to say this. I’ve always heard it’s straight into the board, and overdriving the preamp
@@jameshoward-white2288Terrible sound too imo. It never works, it's just different for the sake of it. Territorial Pissings is another example. Imagine how much better this, that and Revolution would sound if they'd just cranked an AC30 or something; let the amp tubes do the work as intended. If desks (even Neves) were made for that kind of abuse everything would be done that way.
@@stitchgrimly6167 Those direct sounds are fantastic and what make the tones/overall songs unique. None of these three songs would be as raw and gutteral if they were not direct. For bodysnatchers, the direct tone allows Thom's guitar to sit in a different lane of the frequency spectrum than Johnny and Ed's. It's a very smart production move, both for serving the theme of the song and creating separation between instruments.
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Overdubs? That, I reckon, is the beauty of how Ed plays his part in the band. Both atmospheric guitar and voice.
Ondes Martenot player checking in here! The 'Theremin' sounds you talk about are very likely to be the ondes Martenot, if it isn't a complete certainty.
At this time, it is probable that it was Jonny's digital student model built by Maurice Martenot's son, Jean-Louis. It could also have been some modular setup with the ondes Martenot-inspired French Connection controller that he worked with Analogue Systems to create.
Jonny has professed his love for the ondes Martenot quite a bit, and has used one form or another of the instrument since around Kid A onwards. He's certainly done a lot for raising the profile of this tragically unheard-of, beautiful, and fascinating instrument.
100p, i've read he owns 2. jack was spot on when he said 50s horror movie, the ondes martenot was used in many horror films
@@eden-xf2rf last I checked, he has the digital student model he got in Paris, the first of Jean-Loup Dierstein’s ondes musicales instruments, a few of ASADEN’s Ondomo instruments, and an AS French Connection ondes-style CV controller.
It was indeed used in lots of horror films. It certainly evokes that vibe almost effortlessly - probably partially thanks to it sounding somewhat similar to the theremin, too, which saw similar use.
@@JoshSemans I read that he does own those but that in 1999 he acquired an original one that he used on kid amnesiac. I'm not certain though, I'm only certain that I would do anything for one lol. it seems like one of the most beautiful sounding expressive instruments this planet has created and I can't believe it's one of the first electronic instruments too
@@eden-xf2rf the original one you're referring to is the digital student model built by Jean-Louis Martenot. It is, for all intents and purposes an 'ondes Martenot' but it isn't the same as a 'traditional' ondes. I believe they had it delivered to wherever they were working on Kid A/Amnesiac stuff in Paris.
It certainly is a beautiful instrument! If you ever want to know more about it, do get in touch. I'm always happy to chat about the ondes :-)
I sub to your channel, Josh :-D In the documentary Wavemakers, the main woman in the film (her name escapes me, she’s a famous Ondiste) goes to a RH show and talk with Jonny onstage afterwards. He shows her the student model he got when they were recording in Paris, and she had never seen one like it before. There are plenty of photos of Jonny playing the Ondomo too. That documentary is fun to watch; the crotchety old man who repairs Ondes Martenots, the discussion of the “proprietary powder” that goes into the leather pouch, etc.
I've always said Bodysnatchers makes me feel like I can dropkick a speeding train off the tracks. The energy in the song is nuclear. One of my favorites too.
But at the same time “I’ve no idea what I am talking about”.
A lot of guitar parts you're attributing to Jonny is Thom and Ed. That intro is played by Thom, Jonny just hits the accents. Ed is playing that swooping beautiful melody part when it breaks down to the acoustic section (you repeatedly say that Jonny plays that, he isn't, he plays similar notes but his guitar isn't swooping, it isn't sustained like that, he picks his notes). Ed isn't seen in their performance of that part In the basement, but it's clearly seen in the performance on Later with Jools Holland.
This angle of Ryan's studio is so unusual after seeing so many videos in there, and it's so well lit it almost looks like a greenscreen fill in :')
My favorite album of all time. A world of treasures
So glad you're back. Nobody else is talking about music like this. It supports and reinforces my learning journey!
Cole Kushna, the host of Dissect podcast did his most recent series on this album for Spotify. His breakdowns are awesome and I think you guys should definitely have him on; for at least one of the episodes, if this becomes a series on the album!
Was just about to comment this👆👆 100% agree
I concur. Cole is that dude.
I just went back to episode 3 where he dissects bodysnatchers... The guitar part at the start is played by Thom Yorke and not Johnny Greenwood, and the weird distortion is produced by the guitar plugged in directly in Nigel Godrich's Eletrodyne 1204 console! If you guys are really into Radiohead, you absolutely need to listen to this podcast! And by the way, I would totally listen to a podcast from you guys!
Yes! I missed this show so much. Please don't ever leave us again.
So happy to see y'all back and tackling one of the best tracks from what might be my favorite album of all time. Great analysis.
I could definitely watch an entire series on tracks from this album... There is SO MUCH to talk about.
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For anyone who wants to go super deep on this song (or any song from In Rainbows) there is a podcast called Dissect that did a whole podcast episode about this song, and it is WILD what went into this song.
I just subscribed. Thanks for the recommendation.
I needed this. Thanks!
Literally last night I was checking this channel wondering what happened to it. So glad you guys are back!
Guys, the intro is played by Thom, not Johnny. And there's 3 guitars.
Jonny's haunted sound is the Ondes Martenot! One of my favorite instruments of all time. Hit me up if you ever need an Ondist for a tune. Loved this analysis!
I’m not seeing a comment about the circumstances under which this song was made. Here’s a quote from an interview Thom did with NME: “I have this thing-just before I get really sick I’ll have this 12-hour hyperactive mania, and that song was recorded during one of those. I felt genuinely out of it when we did that. The vocal is one take and we didn’t do anything to it afterwards. We tidied up my guitar because I was so out of it, my guitar-playing was rubbish. My best vocals are always the ones that happen there and then.”
That makes sense. It perfectly describes how i feel when I get sick, but also when I have to do the chem gear exercises in the military with my full uniform underneath. Ironically, I recently had to do it while I was starting to get a cold, and it felt like I wanted to jump out of my body with claustrophobia.
The fact that I opened UA-cam to listen the acoustic version of Bodysnatchers and got this video at the top is mesmerizing. And it's the comeback of Dead Wax, incredible!
Loved what you said about the ride cymbal - it can actually be quite difficult to play an eight ride like where it’s so ahead of the beat comparatively (especially to those off-accented kick hits), because it throws all your rhythmic weight in your shoulders, but it so beautifully pushes the almost teenagery brashness of the whole song
The main/intro riff is played by Thom!
oh SICK
ive gone too long without these videos, im so glad yall are back
undeniably one of my favorite radiohead songs, the instrumentals and vocals are visceral, raw heaven & I connect to the lyrics so much- ntm how well-written they are
I would watch another hour of this, the video flew by. I've listened to this song so many times (hundreds?) and feel like I'm hearing it for the first time after your analysis. Love it!
Speaking of amazing combinations of feelings and brains... overjoyed to see you, and immediately learning from what you have to say. Welcome back!
Love you guys so much. I swear that before you started talking about Keith, Brad, and classical music vis a vis linear harmony, this Jarrett quote sprang to mind: “there’s no such thing as chords; there are only moving lines.”
I always think about classical music as having no harmonic plateaus. You’re not just jumping from chord ledge to chord ledge; composers are freely scampering around the tonal landscape. Chords are byproducts.
Don’t forget about Ed!!! Gotta watch the ‘from the basement’ version of this song (and the rest of the In Rainbows session)
I love the enthusiasm of Ryan and Jack to speak about harmonies, melodies and beats
I’ve missed this so much
What a come back!? One of my fav bands
Definitely one of the best bands in the world!
Absolutely ridiculous how talented they are:)
I’m going to see the smile in two months and can’t bloody wait ❤
Just a note...y'all keep talking about Jonny. Ya know they have another guitarist who is also brilliant. Ed O'Brien! Thom's no slouch on guitar either! When they do this live, all three are playing.
Yeah, and I'm 99% sure Thom is the one playing the main riff from the start.
Y'all should take a look at "little by little" by Radiohead, the influence from forró music with the percussion makes it such an interesting listen!
I love the way it switches from Mixolydian to minor in the bridge, it's just *chef's kiss* amazing
I’ve been telling my daughter this forever! Now that she’s 19 months old and we can watch this brilliant breakdown over breakfast, I feel like she really gets it.
I’m glad to have a new video from you guys!
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So excited for this. If you couldn’t tell. Glad you’re back!
Great to see you back! I think something may have gone awry in the edit, the video ends quite abruptly
I'm so happy you're back!! Worth the wait. Thank you for being you!!!
Glad you guys are back.
Please continue to share what music you’ve been listening to. I’ve got so many favorite bands from following your bread crumbs.
Thanks.
Guys... Radiohead usually uses 3 guitarists. On this one Thom, Jonny & Ed. No guitar overdubs here!
Yep - was thinking this and had thought they perhaps should have looked at the From the Basement session to see how they realise all of this live
@@pb6010 Yeah I think those sessions definitely would have added some clarity
Ed is generally the backup vocalist too, right? I think they were crediting Jonny with backup vocals but I've never seen Jonny sing in any context While Ed sings quite a bit.
@@pb6010yeah, but that would take away from what they’re doing here. They’re dissecting with their ears, not their eyes.
@@pb6010 Agreed! For instance, all of the percussive string rakes that Johnny and Ed O'Brien are doing in the verse is really clear when you watch From the Basement.
The answer is a resounding YES. Radiohead are the GOAT for exactly the reason you initially focused on... they are incredibly creative, nuanced and sophisticated, making the replayability infinite, but they never lose track of the core of what musics beautiful, being human, catchy, hitting you square in the feels. It's a tightrope only the greatest bands have managed to walk and Radiohead is just oozing with talent and authenticity. How else can they keep unleashing masterpiece after masterpiece? It is truly astonishing they've managed to stick together for so long. It's some kind of miracle we should all be thankful for.
I also feel the fact that it's been the same 5 guys the whole time is one of the keys to their success. They just understand each other so well and every instrument contributes so much
I have loved this tune from the first time I heard it, but never actually dissected it to anywhere near the degree you guys are. It is such an intense song that does have that 'scary' horror movie vibe to it until the outro section that ramps down the tension. Radiohead is one of a kind. Probably my favorite band of the last almost 30 years. There is no other band I get excited about an upcoming album as when Radioheads announces one. I just hope we get a few more of them.
I'm so glad this is finally back. It was gone entirely too long. Thanks guys
Great analysis using technical terms like 'squashed to s#*t' is why I enjoy Dead Wax videos 😉 Good to have you back!
This was a joy to watch! Your enthusiasm for music theory is infecting me like a bodysnatcher :0
QOTSA gets wicked tones and rhythms like that. Sounds very similar to a QOTSA arrangement. But with a Radiohead twist.
I have to confess to not having been a Radiohead-Head up to now. If you'd have played that song to me without the main vocal I'd have taken it for a QOTSA song I just didn't know for some bizarre reason.
@@martattacks Glad you hear it too. They're often stolen from and not credited. They're overlooked in a lot of conversations too. It says a lot that a band of Radiohead's caliber is borrowing from them.
@@pitpride1220 Yeah, it definitely has Songs for the deaf-Vibes.
excellent observation. never considered it, but you are on point. QOTSA are so underappreciated
Two of my favorites
The live "From The Basement..." performance of this song took me to a whole new appreciation of the band - that it's not just a studio construction, but they could make that great noise live.
Video Link:
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i didnt knew this show existed and now im a fan, fuck yeah i love a in deep analysis that goes not only into the mechanics/fundamentals of something but the feeling, the intention of whats been created. hell yes suscribed and everything, keep it coming guys!
Yes, this is the show for me haha. I love nerding out on super specific theory, but also the bigger picture, putting words to the overall vibe and effect achieved with all those specific theory nerd moments
Thom's guitar is a vintage SG, recorded via DI.
Radiohead has been with me since I was 13 years old and one of the few Bands that stood the test of time and still has the same kind of meaning to me. They are able to express something so deep and true that I'll come back to them for my entire life I think
I love you guys. Finally you are back! Keep it going. Thank you for this. ❤
How have I only just found this channel. Perfect stuff guys, thank you
This is so great to have you guys back! Love your show!
They're back! Thanks for another great episode! Always a treat to hear you talk about Radiohead.
Everything is great about this song. The drums are crazy hard to play and I think it remains understated how precise Phil's drumming on this song is.
thanks for coming back with this show!!!!! love it!!!!!
There are some special mixes where instruments (or components or - like a ride cymbal) don't sound louder or quieter but rather closer and further away. Its something I feel that is often done very well on Radiohead albums. Its very special.
Welcome back DW’s. I’d guess the theremin type parts they discuss around the 16 minute mark would likely be played by Ed O’Brien on his sustainer strat. Would’ve loved to have been a fly on the wall when all this was unfolding in the studio.
You mention Radiohead strike that balance of fulfilling that intellectual itch when you listen, but also the visceral undeniable charisma of a song. I'm a bassist that's played a lot of Radiohead songs over the years - even full tribute shows - and a trend that I was super surprised by upon deep diving and learning so many of their songs is how often they're using variations of 1-4-5! It's like they disguise it. The second half of this song is G-D-C-G. Might as well be Guns N Roses, right?
I just started learning bass and this is one of my favorite bands. What songs are some of your favs as a bassist?
We back ?! Yeah we back. Why did it take me 8 days to find this. Anywho we back. I don't play an instrument or understand theory but song deconstruction gets me in my bones.
Great video as usual guys! I read somewhere that the intro guitar sound was recorded straight to board with preamp saturation (neve or trident maybe?)
Wow! Gents, you're back!
Miss the old studio. And will always love your old name. Still, great to hear your analysis again.
See ya! 🤙🎶🎧
Ryan rocking an SM7B with the foam off. Underrated config.
hell ya
I could listen to Jack nerd out about Radiohead all day. Please do every song, thnx
So glad you guys are back - keep it going!
When are we doing Spirit of Eden by Talk Talk guys? As an album that influenced Radiohead that's got to be on the list right?! Tell me it's on your list! p.s. I love the little side note tech definitions for us non-musicians, a really great touch.
I'm so happy to see a new upload from this channel my god
Wow! Great deep dive! Thank you!!
the melody slowed down sounds like within you without you a little bit. thanks for doing this!
I’m so glad you guys are back! Much love. ✊🏽🎶 (dudes, the fanny pack at 8:05 is boss:)
so glad to have you guys back.
I have always read / heard from more than one source that Thom plugged his electric guitar straight into the console for this and the EQ on the channel strip was cranked…that’s what got the hyper dynamic frequencies in that intro guitar tone. Not sure if it’s 100% accurate, but it would make sense!
Yes!!! Y’all back in effect! I knew 2024 was going to be a good year and this confirms it.
They are my Beatles man Phil, Collin, ed, Johnny and Thom all just fit each other like puzzle pieces and they just flow like one unit along with Nigel just mixing it into a perfect sound.
And here I thought the channel was about to be renamed again... to Dead Channel. Welcome back! Missed you guys
Their performance of this album in the " basement" youtube video is one of the best hour's of music I've ever heard.
Great to have you guys back!
What a come back - don't leave us waiting a year for the next one!
P.S. It's Thom playing the riff at the beginning (at least in this version) - check out the Live at the Basement videos.
Very happy to see a new Dead Wax video. The video ends a bit abruptly though.
ya the upload got messed up but u can watch the end at patreon.com/scarypockets for free !
So glad you guys are back. I was getting worried.
I breathe music, and there's nothing that comes even close to it in my life (human beings excluded). Nevertheless, I'm not a trained or schooled musician, which is why I adore your Dead Wax episodes and enjoy them to the fullest - your knowledge opens worlds to me, and your backgrounds add so much beauty to the emotional dimension I grasp, without destroying the magic of it. Thank you so much for revealing the inner mechanics of the things I love with passion and joy; it gets me even closer to them.
Aaaahhhh!!! I’m so stoked!
I waited the whole year and what a nice present for new years.
so great to see you again, can't wait to see who you're having as your guests this season
wish you'd host some vocalists to give their two cents (I suggest Kenton Chen) :)
this series is like my drug man... So hyped for new content!!
The intro/main rhythm guitar is Thom his 60s SG direct into the desk and the main part of the track is recorded live
So grateful that Dead Wax is back !
This is the first Radiohead song I really "heard." I probably had caught Creep or Karma Police etc in the background through points in my life, but I was driving home from high school and the radio DJ of my local alt rock station, which seems so old fashioned even for the time, introduced "the new Radiohead single from their new album In Rainbows." Bodysnatchers came over the speakers and I'd never had a song grab me by the throat like that before or since. I Immediately went out and bought the CD and have been a huge fan since.
So glad you're back! ❤ Ironically, and I do mean ironically, your Patreon link in the usual description area is not working. 🔗
YESS, I've been waiting for a post-OKC Radiohead analysis from you guys for so long! While the bends/OK computer are brilliant albums, Radiohead's magic for me lies in Kid A and everything they did after that.
It’d be Ed O’Brien on background vocals I think. He and Thom sound really good together.
I’m pretty sure (though not 100% certain) that Ed handles the backing vocals live, but that Thom does it all for the studio sessions
That's Thom playing the guitar part you attribute to Jonny, right from the start the whole way thru.
Watch the "from the basement" recording.
I feel like we're spoiled by having this band around for so long. It's like when you wonder whether people really knew how good Mozart was while he was alive. It's happening right in front of us and it's nearly impossible to explain how good it is. I REALLY hope there are bands as good as this in the future, but Radiohead will never be eclipses or outdone. The same way the Beatles and Led Zeppelin will forever have their place, this band will as well, pushing music forward the same way they did.
I think the average person still doesn’t know how good Radiohead is. They know “Creep” and they don’t go any deeper. Led Zeppelin had that too where most people only knew “Stairway to Heaven” for a long time. Luckily a lot of DJs that knew there was more there started playing all their songs to educate the public. The difference with the Beatles is that they started out as a huge pop band so when they grew as artists, people kept listening and it changed music.
I’ve been waiting so long for this channel!