To my knowledge Kon is the first on UA-cam to properly review these cars. Everybody else does has so far only done the armchair type analysis (read spec sheet, sembangx4) or walk-around review, without actually testing the car. Well done bro
Been working at Proton for a bit now and I'm absolutely in love with Protons now. I've always been a Perodua boi but now, I can see the appeal of Proton now. Absolutely great review Kon!!
My brother and I had a chance to drive the new Iriz lately and directly compare it to his current 2018 Myvi. We took up the car to a hill to test out the driving dynamics and I just have to say that the handling is FAR, FAR better than the Myvi. At low speeds the car responds with an immediacy to input and the loading up of the steering feel as you progressively drive faster is very well graduated. You do not get this feeling with the Myvi, which feels a little disconnected from steering feel with a "stepping" artificial feel as it transitions from light to heavier steering. Proton has nailed down the electronic steering tuning and is underrated in this regard for how well they've made something feel very progressive and natural. On to the engine, the pulling power is very strong and easy to really get up to speed and the CVT paired has no problem reacting to your demands. Even if you are driving fast the brakes cut speed very well which gave me the confidence to really throw it down corners. If you are all for practicality and features the Myvi still has a leg up on the Iriz but if you really do enjoy driving a car I think the Iriz will be a LOT more fun.
Yup, especially this new Iriz where they have finetuned the CVT, really nice to drive. And you are right on the power steering, Proton's setup is impressively good given that the Iriz was their first homegrown EPS.
Thanks! I don’t really know how to argue with those saying I wasted my money on the new Iriz. They should test drive both cars and compare so that they enjoy the Iriz instead of criticising it
Glowing review! My wife has the 2020 Iriz and it's been an amazing daily driver for her, we are extremely happy about it. She got used to the low-speed sensation quite quickly due to her experience with driving manual cars, but this facelift's upgrades sound substantial and well worth it.
@John Gomez Have you tried it? And what other new car offers the same at a similar price? Or are all cars at that range mediocre? When I compare Iriz-Persona to Myvi-Bezza, there isn't a clear winner, just pros and cons on both sides that ultimately make it a matter of taste and priorities. The Proton offerings handle better, have superior ergonomics and NVH, whereas the Perodua offerings have better fuel economy, reliability and active safety features. So it just depends on your taste. If you're going to say that these compare unfavourably with non-national rivals... well duh, they cost between 50-100% more.
@John Gomez At a similar price-point, I would have to get a 4 year old Vios/City/Jazz. I see the attraction and would probably be tempted by it too, but I can understand if someone prefers to go for the newer car. In a world where P1 and P2 do not get preferential treatment in the form of taxes on overseas marques, I would go for the Japanese in a heartbeat, but hey we don't get to make the rules...
@John Gomez any used honda or toyota in this price range will neither have 6 airbags nor any electronic stability control. No they are not better than these two
@@jijisuka2708 I tak sepenuhnya setuju dgn John tp I can see that at least previous gen honda and toyota engine and drivetrain are still superior to Proton (dvvt/vtec + torque converter cvt vs vvt campro + punch cvt). I think there are pros and cons, agree with you regarding those safety features
@@jijisuka2708 You can get a 2019 Yaris J for right under 60k now. And that has 7 airbags, with VSC. That does also get you better reliability and fuel consumption than the Proton, comfortable and quiet ride and decent enough handling. Probably the best all rounder B segment hatchback you could get in my opinion.
Great Driver's POV review Kon! We've been waiting for this for a while and you delivered! Also, very nice sharing the live-on-cam experience taking the bends in the Proton, I love doing that in my Iriz albeit a 2014 model, still handles those curves with no problems.
Kudos to Mr Kon for a fine review out of these cars, indeed there's a lot of improvement from past models. They did a good job of improving the smoothness of driving this car especially at the low speed refinement that match a torque convertered car. Bravo Proton n thanx Mr Kon for the nice review.
@John Gomez coz I couldn't find another car withing this price with such a good ride and handling. Ya the nvh may be bad for this first model. But the ride i couldn't resist it's so enjoyable. I've another car too Kia Forte,2017 Sportage and Vento.
@John Gomez For me it’s surprisingly reliable. I got Myvi G3 to replace my 2014 Iriz but the Myvi got few problems which the SC said “normal la bang kereta lokal” and I’m so glad Perodua didn’t accept my Iriz as trade in.
Kon bro. Please do more super detailed in-depth review and short term review for vehicles that are popular, budget friendly in Malaysian market. Your view trend seemed to be excellent for these type of cars.
Even the 2019 persona improved a lot then the 2016 model. Exterior is one thing...but interior I'm very satisfied from the previous one. After all design and fuel consumption are subjective matters.. I've driven both and the most noticeable thing is the CVT lag had been reduced very well. So for those who keep asking about the cvt or whatsoever.. go and try it for yourself. Test drive and you'll be amazed.
@@jeffrey2271 2014 model seems to have much lower RPM per km/h. My 2014 1.6 CVT cruise 110 km/h at 2300 RPM, 145 km/h at 3200 RPM. But in Iriz facebook owner club, it somehow varies between manufacturing batches.
The Iriz rear design really came to very good looking today. The 1st batch look odd (in my eye). The Persona at such price range, it really value for money. Now with enhancement making even worthy. Proton now have cars that appealing.
Persona 2019 owner here, cant really tolerance to the strong vibration generated from the engine into the interior (seat, steering and all the panel), claimed engine mounting from Proton but still persist. Some people call that "raw" experience but i think thats something you need to think through before pull the trigger.
thanks for this spectacular review, i’ve just booked the 2022 Persona earlier this month and i can’t wait to get my hands on it!!! btw, how long did you have to wait for yours to arrive?
I booked mine on 25th last month. And today my agent called and informed me my persona premium has arrived! I got space grey colour tho. So it took around a month only to get your car.
@@epicopy wahh so early! I booked on 17th Aug, already signed the agreement but still no news from the seller. I wish I will receive mine by early next month.
@@foxfaisal82 I don’t know abang, I really prefer Proton, yesterday I drove my friend’s new Myvi (pre-facelift), nothing excite me about that car honestly.
@@cylai8. Understood. My family has been loyal to Proton since 1992 until now (Iswara sedan 1.5, Wira sedan 1.5, Satria 1.3, Waja MMC, and Waja CamPro). Now I feel like I want to try changing taste to Myvi, Attiva, or Axia.
This new iriz facelift really take me to surprised just how good it looking and more refined compared to the previous model. Not thinking too much, i ordered it without a doubt. Myvi is tooo boring to drive.
@@amalinanasruddin2723 how does it compare to the persona bro? lag tu ada lagi? i love the iriz but for practical purposes i’m tilting towards the Persona.
@@miltonmiles6324 i can’t comment on the persona because I owned the new Iriz. As for Iriz, I couldn’t tell the difference because I didn’t drive the previous Iriz model for a long time but I can tell you that I didn’t feel the lag or what not on the Iriz. I don’t know lah my personal opinion. Because I noticed that after stopping for traffic light, the transition is very smooth. The only downside for the new Iriz (my personal opinion) is the infotainment, I can’t really play any videos and I asked the SA and Proton, it is for the safety purposes. If you are really keen on the practicality you can go with Persona. I have been driving sedan but now I ‘tukar angin’ to hatchback. Baru lah rasa kebujangan 🤣
I don't remember where I read/watched/heard but I heard that Proton reached out to the gearbox manufacturer for tuning (is it Punch? I'm not sure) and was ignored by the company but after Geely and Proton partnership, Geely wasn't happy about the treatment Proton got about the CVTs since Punch works well with Geely/Volvos so Geely "scold" Punch for ignoring Proton, hence why the recent Proton CVTs are okay compared to the older models of CVTs.
Kon, it was an excellent back-to-back review Persona vs Iriz. Looks like Iriz is the winner👍. But it's still a big challenge for IRIZ to match the sales figures of MYVI
Hi Kon, thanks for sharing...ive sold my persona 2017 due to many unresolved cabin noises. Not sure this MC2 already addressed those but ive started to receive similar complaints from mc2 owner. Not sure what proton did for +-200 improvements though mc2 model looks much better
I am still using my 2018 persona.. no whatsoever rattling issue.. been diying sound proofing.. now even quieter than before.. the only downside is the gearbox behaviour.. quite sluggish.. but for 50k car and no issue at all, i am happy with it
iget persona right before the mc2 release, this year production , the dashboard rattling ,squealing like mouse right after 1 week use lol , so is there any IP noise kit that i can claim? , most of sc don't even have that IP noise kit
@@matkeyboard8054 i claimed it on my Iriz. The mouse sound will still appear sometimes but way less than before. They just put some foam around the dashboard to reduce the noises.
If you prefer a better ride & handling go for iriz as it feel more solid, if you focus about resell value & those safety feature then myvi yes, it depends what you want , fuel consumption wise in city jam condition i think both car is really about the same, my family own a myvi n my gf own an iriz
So I’m thinking of selling my proton suprima , I have a few cars on my mind. First of is a 7 seater from fortuner to sorento. Then from the sedan segment, d class, an accord proton or a Ford mondeo. What’s your take? Between the two classes in their segment comparison @kon
i noticed the persona in this video doesnt have rear fog lights. what happened to them in all cars, i thought years ago there was a national law that required all new cars after a certain year to have it on as mandatory?
I do wonder how difficult it would've been to retro-fit the Iriz back seat headset into the Persona. Shopping between the Ativa and Persona, the lack of a headrest for Persona adds another negative point for the Persona. Some may argue shorter passenger won't have any issue and one can always slouch when sitting at the back, but other than comfort the lack of a headrest also increases the risk of whiplash incase of being rear-ended (sh*t do happens). To me it's borderline criminal to omit this especially considering the previous gen Persona had it too.
true im agreed with kon..this persona are using clutch type and other car brand are more bias towards torque converter cvt type..there are something different i feel after test drive 2021new persona my cousin car..i’m current owner persona 2019..during low speed the clutch feels smoothen...and the rpm are not hold too much because it have virtual step gear so it reduce less noise from transmission n engine..not bad im feels jelous right now..haha
No ADAS to me it's not a deal braker maybe because both models already aging and Proton want to reduce the cost to avoid the additional cost to the customer. But simple things like Blind Spot Monitoring/ Rear Cross Traffic Alert shouldn't cost to much to implement. I heard facelift Myvi will get this feature. So, Proton still lagging behind P2 again when comes to safety. No matter what they do for both models, it can't hide by the fact they are getting old especially Iriz. Unless you really care about ride& handling maybe you buy them these 2 models but for me i want something new like latest technology. I read someone commented that Iriz/ Persona platform was designed to accommodate CVT gearbox only. So they have no choice to maintain the same Punch CVT and they can't simply change to 4AT like the Saga because it will require additional cost to redesign the platform to accommodate 4AT. Unlike Saga, it was designed to accommodate 4AT like previous Saga BLM so it shouldn't be that complicated to accommodate 4AT. Mind you, even current Saga or Saga BLM based on Savvy's platform.
That's engine braking, helps you cruise downhill without heavily needing the brakes. By right drivers should switch to low gear down hill, but these cars do it for you
for iriz not sure if still a worth to buy since myvi facelift will be launch soon early 2022 maybe? but proton persona actually still worth it for a car price like myvi but having boot space bigger than mazda2, vios & almera btw i don't mind persona still does not have ADAS "due to cost R&D" but please at least give the adjustable rear headrest like iriz haiyaa
I suggest you to test drive both model before decided on which car is worth it.. study a little on the pros and cons of both model. I decided on Iriz after I tested both car and I really love the driving experience of Iriz better than Myvi. But it is all depending on one’s preference. 😊
@John Gomez I've been a fan of the Iriz from the beginning, but for the 2022 model, I have to agree. As a package, it doesn't really make that much sense anymore.
Lack of boot space, resale value, reliability, poorly tuned clutch (compared to Myvi). Most people go for Persona for family car, iriz is more of a sporty car for youngsters. Anyway I am waiting for my iriz to be delivered soon. Main reason for buying cos I'm 190cm tall, can't fit in the Myvi. And the ride quality is better
I bought Persona 2018 (GST 0% + huge Raya discount) after watching Kon, Roda Pusing. I didn't even test drive. So far I am ok with the slight delay. It just like using manual car a bit. Dashboard noise not extreme annoying after do some DIY. Bought for is robust frame.
Salam sejahtera,nak tanya sebagai bekas pemilik persona berbaloi ker pakai persona untuk first car? Netul ker resale value persona jatuh teruk lepas 5tahun pakai?
Bagi saya yang belum ada kereta ni berbaloi lah. Sebab boot dia besar sikit dari Perodua Bezza. Tapi kalau nak resale value tu bang. Jangan lah ambik persona ni. Lain lah nak beli dia terpakai, then simpan sampai anak cucu pakai. Then sangat sangat berbaloi. Pendapat saya lah 😅
I dun have any proof to back these info up: 1. The original campro was intended to have cam profile switching (ala vtec), but proton could not make that mechanism to put on the engine head. So it was produced without the cam profile switching. 2. Later, cps version was produced. This is the REAL cam profile switching (ala vtec, not i-vtec ya). 3. Further later, proton produced cfe charged fuel efficiency (now simply known as Turbo). If im not wrong at this time, vvt mechanism was firstly introduced. Vvt at intake. 4. With the iriz-later persona & saga, i believe they both use the vvt from cfe, without the turbo. If u notice, these modification/iteration are at engine head: kosong no cps no vvt, later cps then now vvt. Its hard to say vvt from where as all the engine/combustion parameters for specific engine need to be known in order to design those cps vvt etc. U may read in wiki.
@@fahmimansur6704 indeed Proton made a remarkable positive turn around in today cars selling intern of VVT engine modelled car version like all time famous Saga, Iriz and Persona. I’m happy 😃 to see that our national car making a positive improvements on the engine and cars’ outlook itself also.
Good review eventhough too much technical description is unnecessary imho. Simple words to describe cars performance suffice to the targeted consumers.
my persona 4.5 years. 90k km GB still like new. but drive just a bit faster than lorry haha. love the car but may not keep too long. Im just not convinced with their SC. not stick to warranty. always find parts from kedai bawah pokok.
New engine and transmission will require more extensive testing and homologation, and for the volume of cars Proton can expect to sell between now and end of life cycle at the given price point, the expense is difficult to justify
They will definitely wear over time. For manuals, you will notice slipping when u take ofd from standstill, meaning when you will need higher RPM than usual to start the car moving. Suspect this will exhibit similar symptom.
Hi all, im ex owner of Proton Persona 2019 facelift model. Sharing my ownership of it for 1.5 yrs before i sold it (which i lost car value about rm20k) & traded in to get a Toyota Vios 2021 model G spec. Mainly the reason i sell it because of the cabin rattling sound which can't be resolve by proton service 4s center, power window malfunction and lastly the fuel consumption. Have lost my faith & confidence in the previous persona moreover the service center 4s quality was a disappointing all issues i address which they can't solve and they will ask me to sent into HQ to check which will take weeks........ Just my experience with the previous persona maybe i got no luck with this brand....
@@KonWaiLuen ooo. Maybe that's why it is smoother than my old city (2006 gd8). The old one jerks and vibrating like a manual car with clutch at low speed
Should also mention (n review pls) the 2022 Iriz 1.3 standard. Such value and refinement (even without the day running lights) to have for MYR40K makes it a super steal of an offer. Without the flashy trimings of the active, the 1.3 standard still looks elegent n executive enough. Another youtuber claims the 1.3 engine on the standard does not feel underpowered but is also punchier than the 1.6 (short stroke vs long stroke?). Does anyone can shed light on this?
To my knowledge Kon is the first on UA-cam to properly review these cars. Everybody else does has so far only done the armchair type analysis (read spec sheet, sembangx4) or walk-around review, without actually testing the car. Well done bro
In English! Yes....
@@weiltrebor4104 Got BM one already meh? So far I see only walk-around, not proper full driven review.
@@ndt2046 got bm. Funtasticko TV channel
@@ridwankhalil1998 thanks, didn't know that
Others kaki sembang bikin bimbang. Kon sembang kasi kencang.
Been working at Proton for a bit now and I'm absolutely in love with Protons now. I've always been a Perodua boi but now, I can see the appeal of Proton now. Absolutely great review Kon!!
Thanks for watching!
My brother and I had a chance to drive the new Iriz lately and directly compare it to his current 2018 Myvi. We took up the car to a hill to test out the driving dynamics and I just have to say that the handling is FAR, FAR better than the Myvi. At low speeds the car responds with an immediacy to input and the loading up of the steering feel as you progressively drive faster is very well graduated.
You do not get this feeling with the Myvi, which feels a little disconnected from steering feel with a "stepping" artificial feel as it transitions from light to heavier steering. Proton has nailed down the electronic steering tuning and is underrated in this regard for how well they've made something feel very progressive and natural. On to the engine, the pulling power is very strong and easy to really get up to speed and the CVT paired has no problem reacting to your demands. Even if you are driving fast the brakes cut speed very well which gave me the confidence to really throw it down corners.
If you are all for practicality and features the Myvi still has a leg up on the Iriz but if you really do enjoy driving a car I think the Iriz will be a LOT more fun.
Yup, especially this new Iriz where they have finetuned the CVT, really nice to drive. And you are right on the power steering, Proton's setup is impressively good given that the Iriz was their first homegrown EPS.
Thanks! I don’t really know how to argue with those saying I wasted my money on the new Iriz. They should test drive both cars and compare so that they enjoy the Iriz instead of criticising it
Hi Kon you really make good car reviews with interesting attention to details such as the design aspects :)
my 1st time coming across your channel. very knowledgeable person with a good command of english... good job ..
Thank you for watching! See you in my next video!
Once u drive iriz as daily driven car, it feels very good until u forgot that is proton
Kon's English is admirable. Good choice of words.
Thank you for the brief explanation on the torque, centre of mass comparisons on both cars. Nice!
Nice review, can listen even when driving and not watching the video
Glowing review! My wife has the 2020 Iriz and it's been an amazing daily driver for her, we are extremely happy about it. She got used to the low-speed sensation quite quickly due to her experience with driving manual cars, but this facelift's upgrades sound substantial and well worth it.
@John Gomez Have you tried it? And what other new car offers the same at a similar price? Or are all cars at that range mediocre? When I compare Iriz-Persona to Myvi-Bezza, there isn't a clear winner, just pros and cons on both sides that ultimately make it a matter of taste and priorities. The Proton offerings handle better, have superior ergonomics and NVH, whereas the Perodua offerings have better fuel economy, reliability and active safety features. So it just depends on your taste. If you're going to say that these compare unfavourably with non-national rivals... well duh, they cost between 50-100% more.
@John Gomez At a similar price-point, I would have to get a 4 year old Vios/City/Jazz. I see the attraction and would probably be tempted by it too, but I can understand if someone prefers to go for the newer car. In a world where P1 and P2 do not get preferential treatment in the form of taxes on overseas marques, I would go for the Japanese in a heartbeat, but hey we don't get to make the rules...
@John Gomez any used honda or toyota in this price range will neither have 6 airbags nor any electronic stability control. No they are not better than these two
@@jijisuka2708 I tak sepenuhnya setuju dgn John tp I can see that at least previous gen honda and toyota engine and drivetrain are still superior to Proton (dvvt/vtec + torque converter cvt vs vvt campro + punch cvt). I think there are pros and cons, agree with you regarding those safety features
@@jijisuka2708 You can get a 2019 Yaris J for right under 60k now. And that has 7 airbags, with VSC. That does also get you better reliability and fuel consumption than the Proton, comfortable and quiet ride and decent enough handling.
Probably the best all rounder B segment hatchback you could get in my opinion.
Your narration is so clear, smooth, and convincing!
Wow, thank you!
I’m not buying a car right now but I really enjoy watching proton getting better year to year
Gratifying to see.
Great Driver's POV review Kon! We've been waiting for this for a while and you delivered! Also, very nice sharing the live-on-cam experience taking the bends in the Proton, I love doing that in my Iriz albeit a 2014 model, still handles those curves with no problems.
Sempoi abang Kon
Love ur chill and packed with info reviews
Thanks for watching!
Kudos to Mr Kon for a fine review out of these cars, indeed there's a lot of improvement from past models. They did a good job of improving the smoothness of driving this car especially at the low speed refinement that match a torque convertered car. Bravo Proton n thanx Mr Kon for the nice review.
FINALLYYYY THE VIDEO WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR!
Kon reviews these cars with the same respect and technical detail we’d HOPE to get for a 400k car. That’s the way it should be.
Thanks for watching!
Your comment is so underrated. Love how Kon didn't try to shrug off the details just because it's a local product 👌
Proud owner of the 2014 Iriz here... i'm really in love with the Iriz and i'm sure this new 2021 would be more joyful than ever.
@John Gomez coz I couldn't find another car withing this price with such a good ride and handling. Ya the nvh may be bad for this first model. But the ride i couldn't resist it's so enjoyable. I've another car too Kia Forte,2017 Sportage and Vento.
@John Gomez For me it’s surprisingly reliable. I got Myvi G3 to replace my 2014 Iriz but the Myvi got few problems which the SC said “normal la bang kereta lokal” and I’m so glad Perodua didn’t accept my Iriz as trade in.
which iriz 2014 spec (Premium/exec) u r using? what was the price at that time?
@John Gomez then why u ask?
Kon bro. Please do more super detailed in-depth review and short term review for vehicles that are popular, budget friendly in Malaysian market. Your view trend seemed to be excellent for these type of cars.
Even the 2019 persona improved a lot then the 2016 model. Exterior is one thing...but interior I'm very satisfied from the previous one. After all design and fuel consumption are subjective matters.. I've driven both and the most noticeable thing is the CVT lag had been reduced very well. So for those who keep asking about the cvt or whatsoever.. go and try it for yourself. Test drive and you'll be amazed.
Thanks for the review... Waited all along.... Tgh tggu keta je skrg
love how kon still able to review the cars just close to his house
car reviews in the new norm. haha
I just got my MC2 yesterday... handling and throttle and cruising damn cun....
I like what you said about the civic, getting smaller and smaller 😅
How about the fuel consumption? As we knew persona MC2 got eco mode
@@affiqkhalid4243 drove for two days, haven't calculate 😅
But the RPM seems lower than previous model. 3000 at 120KMH above
Ya, can activate eco mode.
@@jeffrey2271 2014 model seems to have much lower RPM per km/h. My 2014 1.6 CVT cruise 110 km/h at 2300 RPM, 145 km/h at 3200 RPM. But in Iriz facebook owner club, it somehow varies between manufacturing batches.
Great review! Appreciate the details! Thanks!
Thanks for this incredibly in-depth review! Wasn't expecting to learn a thing or two when it comes to car manufacturing either hahaha
Best review with clear details explain. Thanks
I just wish Geely/Proton would come up with a new model based on Iriz chassis. A proper hot hatch with proper engine and transmission unit.
definitely wont happen.. the platform is too old already. to meet future regulations in terms of safety, etc. it will have to be an all new platform.
i wish the same. a good proton handling warm hatch.
The Iriz rear design really came to very good looking today. The 1st batch look odd (in my eye). The Persona at such price range, it really value for money. Now with enhancement making even worthy. Proton now have cars that appealing.
Iriz design is already odd, persona also. Back design is sh1t
Persona 2019 owner here, cant really tolerance to the strong vibration generated from the engine into the interior (seat, steering and all the panel), claimed engine mounting from Proton but still persist. Some people call that "raw" experience but i think thats something you need to think through before pull the trigger.
Welcome back to videos.. .. nice watching again
thanks for this spectacular review, i’ve just booked the 2022 Persona earlier this month and i can’t wait to get my hands on it!!!
btw, how long did you have to wait for yours to arrive?
I booked mine on 25th last month. And today my agent called and informed me my persona premium has arrived! I got space grey colour tho. So it took around a month only to get your car.
@@epicopy wahh so early! I booked on 17th Aug, already signed the agreement but still no news from the seller. I wish I will receive mine by early next month.
@@epicopy how much monthly i cant find the price list on web
@@kyr5391 hi . is ur car already arrived?
I would buy either of this over an overhyped Myvi, Vios or even City anytime.
How about the newly facelifted Myvi?
@@foxfaisal82 I don’t know abang, I really prefer Proton, yesterday I drove my friend’s new Myvi (pre-facelift), nothing excite me about that car honestly.
@@cylai8. Understood. My family has been loyal to Proton since 1992 until now (Iswara sedan 1.5, Wira sedan 1.5, Satria 1.3, Waja MMC, and Waja CamPro). Now I feel like I want to try changing taste to Myvi, Attiva, or Axia.
@@foxfaisal82 no harm to try, go ahead, everyone should experience and have the courage to cuba.
Kon's reviews are my sleeping pills . Btw very good detailed review . Waiting for more content.
I like how the new center console been design. Lot nicer than my 2018 persona. But i do like headlight levelling in my persona
Great Review and presentation..Keep it Up Kon.
This new iriz facelift really take me to surprised just how good it looking and more refined compared to the previous model. Not thinking too much, i ordered it without a doubt. Myvi is tooo boring to drive.
the myvi is boring and is booking a lifetime of backaches in advance
Couldnt agree more👍
Worth it. I’ve tried and drove this new iriz and the driving experience is to die for!
@@amalinanasruddin2723 how does it compare to the persona bro? lag tu ada lagi? i love the iriz but for practical purposes i’m tilting towards the Persona.
@@miltonmiles6324 i can’t comment on the persona because I owned the new Iriz. As for Iriz, I couldn’t tell the difference because I didn’t drive the previous Iriz model for a long time but I can tell you that I didn’t feel the lag or what not on the Iriz. I don’t know lah my personal opinion. Because I noticed that after stopping for traffic light, the transition is very smooth. The only downside for the new Iriz (my personal opinion) is the infotainment, I can’t really play any videos and I asked the SA and Proton, it is for the safety purposes.
If you are really keen on the practicality you can go with Persona. I have been driving sedan but now I ‘tukar angin’ to hatchback. Baru lah rasa kebujangan 🤣
I don't remember where I read/watched/heard but I heard that Proton reached out to the gearbox manufacturer for tuning (is it Punch? I'm not sure) and was ignored by the company but after Geely and Proton partnership, Geely wasn't happy about the treatment Proton got about the CVTs since Punch works well with Geely/Volvos so Geely "scold" Punch for ignoring Proton, hence why the recent Proton CVTs are okay compared to the older models of CVTs.
I heard it at Careta
one point that most people didnt know or maybe just ignore it... latest tuning much more better...even better than 2nd facelifted persona n iriz
Best review ever!
Nice review
How i wished the persona/iriz have cruise control like the original persona/gen2 had. (2017 Persona owner here!)
Thanks for sharing😀👍
I am awaiting Persona with autocruise…. sure I will buy!
Kon, it was an excellent back-to-back review Persona vs Iriz. Looks like Iriz is the winner👍. But it's still a big challenge for IRIZ to match the sales figures of MYVI
is proton made a C/D segment sedan with Persona design element i think it will looks good. because the roofline will be much lowered
If interior of persona same as in the iriz, i think it would be superb
Looking to get the standard variant Persona soon!
Hi Kon, thanks for sharing...ive sold my persona 2017 due to many unresolved cabin noises. Not sure this MC2 already addressed those but ive started to receive similar complaints from mc2 owner. Not sure what proton did for +-200 improvements though mc2 model looks much better
Proton's questionable QC doesn't seem to be nearly as bad as they were years ago, but as it seems, the issues hasn't disappeared completely.
@@germaineliew2012 wow 2017 .. how much damage to your pocket ?
I am still using my 2018 persona.. no whatsoever rattling issue.. been diying sound proofing.. now even quieter than before.. the only downside is the gearbox behaviour.. quite sluggish.. but for 50k car and no issue at all, i am happy with it
iget persona right before the mc2 release, this year production , the dashboard rattling ,squealing like mouse right after 1 week use lol , so is there any IP noise kit that i can claim? , most of sc don't even have that IP noise kit
@@matkeyboard8054 i claimed it on my Iriz. The mouse sound will still appear sometimes but way less than before. They just put some foam around the dashboard to reduce the noises.
iriz looks stunning
Can you comment on the difference between 2019 and latest version
Tq Kon...good review
How's the new Iriz's fuel consumption? is it fuel saving? I'm still contemplating between the new Iriz and Myvi haha
If you prefer a better ride & handling go for iriz as it feel more solid, if you focus about resell value & those safety feature then myvi yes, it depends what you want , fuel consumption wise in city jam condition i think both car is really about the same, my family own a myvi n my gf own an iriz
susah mw beat perodua dlm jimat minyak..but still tetap jimat utk sorg yg berkaki ringan... tp utk fun drive...safety..even tiada ADAS... smua ada dlm iriz...chasis rigid... tough...smua dlm iriz...
So I’m thinking of selling my proton suprima , I have a few cars on my mind. First of is a 7 seater from fortuner to sorento. Then from the sedan segment, d class, an accord proton or a Ford mondeo. What’s your take? Between the two classes in their segment comparison @kon
i noticed the persona in this video doesnt have rear fog lights. what happened to them in all cars, i thought years ago there was a national law that required all new cars after a certain year to have it on as mandatory?
Not too sure if we have that kind of law tho🤔
@@stewardm.97 got
I do wonder how difficult it would've been to retro-fit the Iriz back seat headset into the Persona. Shopping between the Ativa and Persona, the lack of a headrest for Persona adds another negative point for the Persona. Some may argue shorter passenger won't have any issue and one can always slouch when sitting at the back, but other than comfort the lack of a headrest also increases the risk of whiplash incase of being rear-ended (sh*t do happens).
To me it's borderline criminal to omit this especially considering the previous gen Persona had it too.
true im agreed with kon..this persona are using clutch type and other car brand are more bias towards torque converter cvt type..there are something different i feel after test drive 2021new persona my cousin car..i’m current owner persona 2019..during low speed the clutch feels smoothen...and the rpm are not hold too much because it have virtual step gear so it reduce less noise from transmission n engine..not bad im feels jelous right now..haha
And I keep contemplating to have daily drive car. And yeah I'll go with persona due to your review 🤣. Interested to take Iriz but small boot
Honestly, the one thing I don't like about the Persona is the short rear overhang. The front is ok, but the rear overhang looks cacat.
u mean short overhang? that's quite long IMO.
Iriz now more attractive than before
Finally, thanks Kon 👍🏼
Thanks for watching!
That *Iriz Active is surprisingly looking like the Axia Style in style!
*same chap with new outfit.
U do know iriz active prototype existed way before axia style right?
Woah, kon is among the first person who reviewed the Iriz and Persona. nice
Ftv first one
Yeah, the car reviews are coming back as restrictions are now being slowly lifted, but we are still being cautious.
No ADAS to me it's not a deal braker maybe because both models already aging and Proton want to reduce the cost to avoid the additional cost to the customer. But simple things like Blind Spot Monitoring/ Rear Cross Traffic Alert shouldn't cost to much to implement. I heard facelift Myvi will get this feature. So, Proton still lagging behind P2 again when comes to safety. No matter what they do for both models, it can't hide by the fact they are getting old especially Iriz. Unless you really care about ride& handling maybe you buy them these 2 models but for me i want something new like latest technology. I read someone commented that Iriz/ Persona platform was designed to accommodate CVT gearbox only. So they have no choice to maintain the same Punch CVT and they can't simply change to 4AT like the Saga because it will require additional cost to redesign the platform to accommodate 4AT. Unlike Saga, it was designed to accommodate 4AT like previous Saga BLM so it shouldn't be that complicated to accommodate 4AT. Mind you, even current Saga or Saga BLM based on Savvy's platform.
Would love to see you re-purchase the Persona one day. (Though it’s highly unlikely. Haha)
Your review racun me to buy the car la bro
So my biggest question is, when the car go downhill and u let off your foot from both pedals, is the RPM still running high like crazy?
That's engine braking, helps you cruise downhill without heavily needing the brakes. By right drivers should switch to low gear down hill, but these cars do it for you
@@propertyvig7623 This freaks me out tho, every single time it happened
@@afiqarman990 don't worry, it won't break your engine and won't consume more fuel if u don't press the throttle.
Can try
You :Say open the air bag
Proton: are you sure?!
You : just open.......
Proton: air bag boom.......
why do you turn on the hazard lights?
for iriz not sure if still a worth to buy since myvi facelift will be launch soon early 2022 maybe? but proton persona actually still worth it for a car price like myvi but having boot space bigger than mazda2, vios & almera btw i don't mind persona still does not have ADAS "due to cost R&D" but please at least give the adjustable rear headrest like iriz haiyaa
Yes, behind no headrest really potong stim
Hahaha.. i also dont get the logic why Persona took out adjustable rear headrests.
Because of one tiny bit, the whole effort put into the car come to waste. Come on Proton!
I suggest you to test drive both model before decided on which car is worth it.. study a little on the pros and cons of both model. I decided on Iriz after I tested both car and I really love the driving experience of Iriz better than Myvi. But it is all depending on one’s preference. 😊
I could have waited one more year ... I love my 2020 Persona though!
Your persona is the cvt one is it? Hows the experiece? Because i heard there are people experiencing knocking sound at the gear box other issues etc
@John Gomez well thats what i heard, dont know whether its true or not. Need to hear from the owner themselves
The iriz seat more comfort and much better design from myvi gen 3 so thin and short seat
One of the few plus points of the Iriz at least.
@John Gomez I've been a fan of the Iriz from the beginning, but for the 2022 model, I have to agree.
As a package, it doesn't really make that much sense anymore.
@John Gomez jason kwk kah ni?
New persona, how's the lag sir ? Previous model weakness lag so much. After foot down, 2 seconds later only car moving.
Much less lag. Can say quite immediate in its response.
why dodu choose proton over other imported car?
In Pakistan no Proton cars are available for sale
Kon... Just want one question... Why chinese not to keen to own iriz???? Its a good car... Hmmm... Have a nice day
I beg to differ. Quite a lot of Chinese owners bought the Iriz. What made you come to this conclusion?
Lack of boot space, resale value, reliability, poorly tuned clutch (compared to Myvi). Most people go for Persona for family car, iriz is more of a sporty car for youngsters. Anyway I am waiting for my iriz to be delivered soon. Main reason for buying cos I'm 190cm tall, can't fit in the Myvi. And the ride quality is better
the new persona suspension and spring are same with persona 2016-2018?
Hi, I'm a first time car buyer and I'm 22! Should I opt for persona 2022 or Myvi 2022?? My daily Travel is going to be from semenyih to KL
Persona will be more comfortable and refined for that daily semi long-distance commute.
myvi 2022 or iriz 2022? Pleaseeeeeeeee answer this...
Myvi bro.. But iriz handles better if thats your main priority
i watch at 1.25x speed to cater the word by word style of speech
vote colour Proton iriz active
RED = like
ORANGE = comment
I bought Persona 2018 (GST 0% + huge Raya discount) after watching Kon, Roda Pusing. I didn't even test drive. So far I am ok with the slight delay. It just like using manual car a bit.
Dashboard noise not extreme annoying after do some DIY. Bought for is robust frame.
I had the same model. What did you buy to DIY the dashboard noise?
Salam sejahtera,nak tanya sebagai bekas pemilik persona berbaloi ker pakai persona untuk first car? Netul ker resale value persona jatuh teruk lepas 5tahun pakai?
Bagi saya yang belum ada kereta ni berbaloi lah. Sebab boot dia besar sikit dari Perodua Bezza. Tapi kalau nak resale value tu bang. Jangan lah ambik persona ni. Lain lah nak beli dia terpakai, then simpan sampai anak cucu pakai. Then sangat sangat berbaloi.
Pendapat saya lah 😅
Hi bro 😎. Where is the origin of Proton Iriz VVTi engine ? From which car brand model ? Or brand new developed engine from Proton ?
@John Gomez you are very arrogant. No more watch your UA-cam in the future.
You better turn off your entire Q&A period. Useless attitude !
I dun have any proof to back these info up:
1. The original campro was intended to have cam profile switching (ala vtec), but proton could not make that mechanism to put on the engine head. So it was produced without the cam profile switching.
2. Later, cps version was produced. This is the REAL cam profile switching (ala vtec, not i-vtec ya).
3. Further later, proton produced cfe charged fuel efficiency (now simply known as Turbo). If im not wrong at this time, vvt mechanism was firstly introduced. Vvt at intake.
4. With the iriz-later persona & saga, i believe they both use the vvt from cfe, without the turbo.
If u notice, these modification/iteration are at engine head: kosong no cps no vvt, later cps then now vvt.
Its hard to say vvt from where as all the engine/combustion parameters for specific engine need to be known in order to design those cps vvt etc.
U may read in wiki.
@@fahmimansur6704 thanks 😊 for your insightful professional replied bro 😎. 👍 I learned from you.
@@fahmimansur6704 indeed Proton made a remarkable positive turn around in today cars selling intern of VVT engine modelled car version like all time famous Saga, Iriz and Persona. I’m happy 😃 to see that our national car making a positive improvements on the engine and cars’ outlook itself also.
Proton do good job now after Geely join the team.... Management and quality up and up
that persona tyre size 185 55 16.. if change to 195 55 16.. any sangkut tak at body?
195/50/r16 will be better. ANyway, 195/55/r16 won't sangkut because of its wheel offset
is that e36 at the back ?
How about the petrol for Persona ? Is it save petrol?
Persona MC2 improve 6-8% FC
Why iriz back seat has a adjustable headrest but persona don’t have it🤪
haha weird right?
Are u 1st youtuber test drive??
0:00 khaby lame will love that feature a lot
Good review eventhough too much technical description is unnecessary imho. Simple words to describe cars performance suffice to the targeted consumers.
no... you can watch many other review videos with simple description, but the reason Kon's review is good is because of the technical knowledge.
my persona 4.5 years. 90k km GB still like new. but drive just a bit faster than lorry haha. love the car but may not keep too long. Im just not convinced with their SC. not stick to warranty. always find parts from kedai bawah pokok.
Ok lah, nearing 5 years, can consider upgrade liao. Haha
The iriz active look more sportier...😍
Sportier & look good
@John Gomez I felt the same looking at pics. In real it looked smart 😃
@John Gomez go see it in a flesh its act looks very good
There is no engine upgrade... Still same old engine. Hopefully Proton will improve on this lacking.
New engine and transmission will require more extensive testing and homologation, and for the volume of cars Proton can expect to sell between now and end of life cycle at the given price point, the expense is difficult to justify
Engine development is one of the most expensive aspect in car development.
Does cvt clutch wear out after years of usage? Does it have any symptom?
They will definitely wear over time. For manuals, you will notice slipping when u take ofd from standstill, meaning when you will need higher RPM than usual to start the car moving. Suspect this will exhibit similar symptom.
@@KonWaiLuen yeah im facing this issue, when up to speed it doesnt slip
Maybe the punch CVT just need an adaptation after a while.
Hi all, im ex owner of Proton Persona 2019 facelift model. Sharing my ownership of it for 1.5 yrs before i sold it (which i lost car value about rm20k) & traded in to get a Toyota Vios 2021 model G spec. Mainly the reason i sell it because of the cabin rattling sound which can't be resolve by proton service 4s center, power window malfunction and lastly the fuel consumption. Have lost my faith & confidence in the previous persona moreover the service center 4s quality was a disappointing all issues i address which they can't solve and they will ask me to sent into HQ to check which will take weeks........ Just my experience with the previous persona maybe i got no luck with this brand....
how was the fuel consumption? in particular town driving? since i know it is efficient on the highway
After all these refinements Proton still not willing to change the rear seats of the Persona to the ones in the Iriz 🤦
they never listen. lampau belakang persona yang ramai orang complain buruk pun taknak ubah. typical proton 😒
@@MFahd-gl1dt lampu mungkin kena bajet yang lebih...tp seats tu just direct ambik je kat Iriz
Hi kon, does previous gen honda city (gm6) also used clutch based cvt or torque converter?
GM6 is torque converter
@@KonWaiLuen ooo. Maybe that's why it is smoother than my old city (2006 gd8). The old one jerks and vibrating like a manual car with clutch at low speed
should i get persona or x50?
X50 long waits 1 year if you don't mind
@@lucasmorales3704 that’s what I’ve been thinking about . Im not sure if i can wait long enough but damn it looks so gorgeous
And persona premium also will sangkut but not too long la.... Hahaha 😄🤣
Can those LED headlamps be retrofitted to the 2017 models?
For persona can, because it has the same headlight base and shape.
@@Nabilllllll will check it out soon…thanks
@John Gomez hahahaha
Should also mention (n review pls) the 2022 Iriz 1.3 standard. Such value and refinement (even without the day running lights) to have for MYR40K makes it a super steal of an offer.
Without the flashy trimings of the active, the 1.3 standard still looks elegent n executive enough.
Another youtuber claims the 1.3 engine on the standard does not feel underpowered but is also punchier than the 1.6 (short stroke vs long stroke?). Does anyone can shed light on this?