Practical Kata Bunkai: Seienchin (Seiyunchin) Opening Sequence

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  • Опубліковано 10 лип 2014
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    This video looks at bunkai for the opening sequence of Seienchin (Seiyunchin) kata. It was filmed during a four day residential course in the UK. Seienchin (Seiyunchin) is not a kata that is part of my personal practise or teaching, but I believe that the principles of combat and kata transcend individual kata. We therefore applied the process of analysis to the kata and this is what we feel the kata is showing. I obviously defer to those who have studied the kata in the depth it deserves, but I nevertheless hope that our take on the sequence is of interest.
    All the best,
    Iain
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  • @autism2artism
    @autism2artism 7 років тому +5

    Truly refreshing to see this bunkai for this beautiful Kata! I just finished it. One thing is performing it & another understanding the functions & applications of each movement. OSS Sir!

  • @reesemadigan7411
    @reesemadigan7411 9 років тому +5

    A very impressive display of knowledge and insight. Well done.

  • @zeno_aratus
    @zeno_aratus Рік тому

    So good to see great application that demonstrates the raw aggression and pure violence encoded in kata. Many of the bunkai I have seen over the years have been a bit too formal and I was never truly sold on them

  • @Eleazar73
    @Eleazar73 3 роки тому

    Your walkthroughs of Seiyunchin have been fantastic. Thank you.

  • @witri9
    @witri9 5 років тому +1

    That’s GREAT Sensei! Been thinking about this one for a couple of years.

  • @SithV1
    @SithV1 10 років тому +1

    Thanks for sharing this video. This will give me so much help into further understading the Kata's application.

  • @AS280
    @AS280 10 років тому +2

    Very refreshing the reality your analysis brings to kata ! I wonder if 150 years ago seeing someone work on this kata it was closer to this approach and if the stylized show type practice that most use today is in fact so far removed that it is contributing to the loss of this generations understanding of Karate. Keep up the great work !!

  • @forwardchap
    @forwardchap Рік тому

    Wonderful stuff Iain. It is so good to see realistic bunkai done with combative intent.

    • @vinvass2674
      @vinvass2674 11 місяців тому

      Everyone likes to quote and mention Geoff Thompson
      He was a Shotokan Sensei and knew all the kata and the proper Bunkai applications
      The developed The Fence, the one punch KO, which he heavily took from boxing, and the grapple backup, mainly Judo
      Do you ever see him advocating stuff like this for Door fights, or REAL Self Defence

  • @Ridgehandnation
    @Ridgehandnation 10 років тому +1

    Awesome theory and application

  • @ingvsanchezalonso
    @ingvsanchezalonso 6 років тому

    I am starting to learn this kata and when I watch this bunkai just I think...the sensei Ian is awesome. Thanks from Mexico

  • @teddypantelas
    @teddypantelas 8 років тому +1

    very inspiring bunkai. Thank you for sharing. your insight.

  • @3rdbase7thinningproduction44
    @3rdbase7thinningproduction44 8 місяців тому

    Very different analysis of this kata from a Japanese sensei. Both are very impressive.

  • @nandino77
    @nandino77 9 років тому +1

    Very good bunkai!!

  • @22minus13
    @22minus13 2 роки тому

    Beautiful concepts you shared ?

  • @AdrianJohnRiley
    @AdrianJohnRiley 9 років тому +1

    Thanks very useful interpretation.

  • @salvatoreplacidoplumari3840

    👏 brilliant bunkai

  • @joopsnoop
    @joopsnoop 10 років тому

    Very nice.

  • @bashlivingstonstampededojo882

    Great bunkai

  • @irb911
    @irb911 3 місяці тому

    Arigato Sensei!!

  • @malakusmalakuss2152
    @malakusmalakuss2152 5 років тому

    this is new for me. it's diametrically different from how I learned it and how I teach it.

  • @NaihanchinKempo
    @NaihanchinKempo 10 років тому

    did you consider jointlocks arm brake ?
    Nevermind dhalfway in the vid looks like you did :) good stuff

  • @zlatanmidzic1450
    @zlatanmidzic1450 4 роки тому

    Oss !

  • @shrijitpaul2604
    @shrijitpaul2604 3 роки тому

    Please make a video on the application of Saifa

    • @practicalkatabunkai
      @practicalkatabunkai  3 роки тому +1

      If you search “iain abernethy saifa” you will be pleasantly surprised to find I already have :-)

  • @cavpf
    @cavpf Рік тому

    What is your style of karate Sensei?

    • @practicalkatabunkai
      @practicalkatabunkai  Рік тому

      I feel I am a martial artist first, a karateka second, and I have no idea what style I am. I think the idea of styles can be harmful to karate and the development of the individual (as did Funakoshi, etc) so I don’t ascribe to any these days. It’s simply “karate”. More here: www.iainabernethy.co.uk/article/styles-are-they-killing-karate

    • @vinvass2674
      @vinvass2674 11 місяців тому

      He has no style because he is not qualified in any genuine schools of Karate eg Shotokan, Goju, etc
      He has no actual Dan grades from any school or teacher
      He is certainly not a Sensei and should not be addressed as such
      His Bunkai were not taught to him by any Shihan or Master from any real style or school, they are made up nonsense

    • @vinvass2674
      @vinvass2674 11 місяців тому

      It's because you are not qualified in any systems of karate
      You haven't done the grading exams, yo don't have s real black belt, you don't have any Dan grades, you didn't learn from a real Sensei or master
      Seriously, a mug who claims to teach karate but can't say what style or school he is from, who actually awarded his his grades, being evasive
      Do you want to gake lessons from someone who can't show his lineage or who graded him, what style he actually practices

    • @3rdbase7thinningproduction44
      @3rdbase7thinningproduction44 8 місяців тому

      ​@@vinvass2674How do you know? Did you train with him?

  • @stefanmaier-kyokushinkarat8442
    @stefanmaier-kyokushinkarat8442 4 роки тому

    Very good bunkai. Osu

  • @xreev0x
    @xreev0x 7 років тому

    This is almost exactly the first of 3 bunkai interpretations taught in Isshinryu. The only difference is the initial move is not to cover the face, but rather to lock an attacking punching arm (which is far more likely than a wrist grab... really, when was the last time someone tried to grab a wrist in a street fight?).

    • @practicalkatabunkai
      @practicalkatabunkai  7 років тому +11

      The last time someone grabbed my wrist was the last time he tried to clear a path for a strike, the last time I repeatedly hit him in the groin and he tried to stop me, the last time I grabbed his throat and my enemy tried to remove my arm, the last time he tried to arm drag me, the last time I gouged an eye and they gripped my wrist to protect themselves, and on and on. There are loads of reasons the wrist will be grabbed in real situations. All these various options were covered at the event. However, this short clip obviously can’t cover the four days. It’s always a problem with these clips (they are always incomplete and hence easily misunderstood). I hope that helps clarify that no one was suggesting an out of context grip for no reason … indeed, that was joked about :-) Thanks for watching!

  • @therudeabides1188
    @therudeabides1188 3 роки тому

    Miyagi-Do meets Eagle Fang!

  • @daniel-san836
    @daniel-san836 3 роки тому

    Osu!

  • @davidburns3807
    @davidburns3807 4 роки тому +2

    can he talk just a little faster?

    • @practicalkatabunkai
      @practicalkatabunkai  4 роки тому +3

      I can try … but I’m limited by my audience’s listening speed :-) I sometimes forget that it’s not just the people in the room that will be listening, and hence the Northern English speed and accent will need curtailed.

    • @forwardchap
      @forwardchap Рік тому

      Not so fast that it cannot be understood clearly down here in Australia.

  • @didiervidry7687
    @didiervidry7687 3 роки тому

    Why not?
    Seiyunnchin kata is more to get mutchimi sensation ( like a Gréco romaine wrestler) than to be a thing stuck in a still tradition !
    Strong and relax like a Bear catching a fish.....or.....try to ape morio HIGAONNA 🤔😂🤗😞.
    Cordialement.

  • @vinvass2674
    @vinvass2674 11 місяців тому

    Did you see that shit vid on Karate Grapplng where he tries to convince you that Judo throws are in Kata
    Like why would Okinawan forms contain throws developed from Samurai armour Grappling that got into the KITO Ryu that passed into the Kodokan

    • @vinvass2674
      @vinvass2674 11 місяців тому

      Then he and his boyfriend, after too much wanking over the UFC tapes (mid 90s) were rolling round the floor together doing impractical and very poor white belt Newaza

    • @vinvass2674
      @vinvass2674 11 місяців тому

      Look at books by the Karate Masters such as Oyama
      After a Karate move, when he demos a throw he writes, do a Judo throw
      He acknowledged the throw was from Judo, he doesn't pretend it was hidden in the kata
      Same as the Aikijutsu from the Daito Ryu was the self defence in Kyokushin
      He doesn't pretend it's hidden in the kata
      If these Masters don't have these Bunkai, why does AberCuntKnee

  • @vinvass2674
    @vinvass2674 11 місяців тому

    If these applications were really in the kata then the Okinawan masters would have taught them that way and passed them on
    Abercrombie didn't learn these Bunkai from any master or teacher
    He is not even doing the Kata or the sequences properly so his applications only make sense if you don't do the Kata right in the first place
    Look at Kenpo where the 156 self defence sets are in the forms
    Five swords and Thundering Hammers, both Master Key movement, are in Long Four
    This method, which looks like trying to take moves from other MA, Kung fu or Silat, and graft them into a modified version of the kata, misses the point
    Abrrcunt is not a Sensei, he does not know the forms, and does not know the applications

  • @vinvass2674
    @vinvass2674 11 місяців тому

    While Geoff Thompson and those guys, Terry O Neil, Gary Spiers, etc , we're working the doors of the pubs and clubs, using their Karate in REAL fights, Abs Have Girth from Beer was drinking pints in them
    Don't believe this unrealistic shit is really in karate kata, can really work in a fight, otherwise all the real karate Sensei who work the doors would all be doing it
    And the Masters would have been teaching it