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LIVE - The Dark Side of the Octatrack - help me stay sane while reordering my tracks 😅
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- Опубліковано 4 кві 2020
- Will stream while attempting to completely reordering all the tracks in the Octatrack in my current set. Hang out and help me stay sane! 🙈 ... while also getting an insight in how my set is arranged.
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thanks for this! it's good to know that advanced users like yourself actually have to go through this painstaking task of copyin- pasting pattern by pattern, part by part.
(EDIT. OK. You mentioned this later :) )
I use part naming for storing tempo information (for me to know what song I am dealing with and what is the right tempo for it).
You have 6 letters available and I use this convention: NAM-XX
NAM is song name shortcut (3letters) and XX is shortcut of BPM (2 digits only, but it's actually enough; for example 120 bpm = 20; 93 bpm = 93)
Examples:
SNG-93
HEY-20
OCT-07
etc. Helps me to not be lost :)
This turned my Floppy into a Solid State
The simplest way to move banks within the same project is to connect the OT as USB disk and renaming the different banks. Definitely make a backup of the project first!
Sounds like a great solution. Is that 100% safe? I have never heard Elektron advertise this solution. More like “don’t touch the files” lol.
@@truecuckoo I prepared a live set that way and nothing exploded. But i did take care to backup before and kind of worked it off like pilots do check lists: Saying out every step aloud.
@@truecuckoo I use the software octaedit for this stuff... but always backup!!
@@dorn_beats was it compatible with the latest (2018 i think) firmware update?
I've also heard this to be the solution. You copy all the bank (source) files to the bank (destination). You can make a backup and try this. Moving each pattern and park sounds TEDIOUS. ZOMG
Thanks so much for posting this vid. I feel this part of the octatrack is so essential and was something I overlooked in the beginning but makes my experience with the machine so much more fluid and enjoyable. Thanks for sharing the knowledge!
“IDM” might be the coolest track I’ve heard from you, friend! Keep up the good work. Really love a lot of the textures you’re getting. I can really see how much you’ve grown and improved since you first popped up on UA-cam. Excited to hear more and more :)
Thank you so much! 🙏🏼 Keep an eye up the following hours for an animated music video on the IDM track :D Uploading it as I type this.
Wow. Looking forward to this! Thanks for letting us hang out with you.
I've missed the live in but saw it anyway, thx!
Thanks for posting this.. I've been watching your videos on Digitakt and Octatrack over and over again and still can't decide which one to get..
Oh man! Sorry I missed this. So rad. Thanks for doing this, even though I was late!
Loving your hi-tech mirror :)
Best live stream.
Thank you😉👍
Woow thanks Mark! I appreciate it 🙏🏼
@@truecuckoo it's always so cool to listen and look what you are doing
More power to you mr cuckoo. Keep up the live streaming. I have an idea for you though, wouldn’t it be cool if you did a video link with a couple of UA-cam’rs and somehow synchronised some loops together and try an epic tube-gig. Maybe we could get more and more to join in!
This is SOOOOO helpful!! Any suggestions on cross-pollinating a new Set/Project from multiple Sets/Projects?
I really love the Octa for the possibility to make transitions between tracks like djs do cause im also djing and like long transitions in some cases recombining two tracks generating a new one on the fly. Thats a cool way to play for dancefloors, not just one track after another and i do not know any other sequencer machine which is able to do that exept daws but i dont wanna use a laptop setup.
So when i started using the octa like this i resampled the master onto one specific track (always the same in all patterns) and created a scene which mutes all other tracks only playing this on the fly sample. Sample the master then go to that scene. Sounds like nothing happened but then youre able to move to the next pattern/part which has the same scene setting and you will still hear the instantly recorded sample from the pattern before while already in the new one. Then you can crossfade back to one of the other scenes which should all mute the instant sample track and unmute all other tracks. Smooth transition done.. sure you can use all filters, fx, reverse and so on manually on top while doing so. This was my transition trick number one i found somewhere on youtube.
However i changed that now and use a different method. The reason is that i dont want to always have a transition like from one vinyl record or sum to another. I thought it would be nicer to be able to recombine the single tracks of both pattern/parts how i want to in the life situation. E.g. bring in the new kick or hats while the rest is still playing the pattern before and things like that. Also i didnt wanna spend one of the 8tracks only for the transitions. so i created a live workaround like this: just record the single tracks with their trigs and fx into the track buffer as a loop while playing at the moment you like how they sound. Switch to another pattern that is playing back all those buffers (always the same pattern only designed for the transition). Again it sound like nothing happened but u now play back the loops which have to be set to infinite looping. If u then go to the next pattern/part you wanna bring in slowly track by track still the loop buffers are looping when the tracks of the new pattern are always disconnected from the clock or ‚play automatically‘ status. If you set up the machine like this you can now start one track after the other by just start them one after the other like you wanna bring them in. the other buffers still play the samples from the pattern before. As soon as you start one of the tracks the samplebuffer on that track will stop and the new sounds/trigs on that track will play. Makes sense?
when's the next one? cheers!
@TrueCuckoo - will you be discussing Overbridge 2? Look forward to you using Digitakt / Analog Heat w/ Overbridge2. Thanks
great cuckoo :D !!!
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Hello cuckoo, do you think I should use the editor that was made by Rufus for the octatrack? I was given the license with a purchase over on the forum and I don't know how to feel about it. What do you think?
all the album "Not Pop" it was created and perform with Octatrak? the record it´s a take playing the OT?
All of the songs (except the last one) are based on Octatrack performances. But I’ve edited them in the computer after they’ve been recorded to make the arrangements tighter. And often added a few tracks, like piano and flute, for example. But it truly is recorded Octatrack performances.
@@truecuckoo beautiful!, yes I saw after this post the video "the process of making "This is not Jazz" , very clear. thanks!
Do you know about OctaEdit its a software. You can copy Banks across Projects and lots of more stuff. Its in kind of a beta state, but worked for me!! I have two song in every bank, and i could manage to devide the songs afterwards...
Yeah, I’ve been in touch with them. But the current version is not officially supporting MKII and the current firmware. And the new release is officially put on hold, if I understand correctly. So I’m not using it.
@@truecuckoo I did try it and it worked for me with the up to date firmware. It's NOT offically supported, I'm desperatly waiting for the update! But for me, moving banks, parts and patterns, even across projects, worked fine. Didn't touch the other stuff...
Thanks Cuckoo for all your great tutorials!
@@truecuckoo Hi! First at all, really liked your performance at Synthposium Russia in 2018, like to see your gigs here again! As @dorn mentioned OctaEdit is a solution. I use Manager module to manage songs (banks & samples) and it works. Also Rusty, creator of OctaEdit, being very helpful.
We would go crazy with this device... what year is it?
Right now it’s 2023, and I hope you’re well.
An after-the-show-very-late hi!
Hi! 👋🏼
True Cuckoo Hi! Very gentle for sharing your workflow.
Can’t seem to get a straight answer for this one: can I choose to use one project at all times and have all my sampling time in that project available ?
Just from my reading on the OT, yes you can as long as non static machines don’t exceed the max RAM (85mb or so)
Yes! Tempo by Bank! please!
Hi i have a question for anybody who wants to help: i already have an op1 and i am thinking to get another synth but my budget is 200€ max so i thought about volca fm, td3 and the crave. I like the three of them. Maybe the td3 is the more different sound to what i can get with the op1 but i doubt cause its maybe the least deep one. Any help will be great ! Thanks
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Seems to me Cuckoo could have just used the arranger mode to organize the set. I recently made a spreadsheet of my octatrack banks and patterns and that has helped me see quickly what how everything is organized.
I tried the arranger to organize my set, but I always keep forgetting to go out of the arranger after switching a song... and then it switches to the next track after 4 bars and my set is messed up...
dorn haha that can happen. I suggest telling the arranger to loop the pattern where you want to get out of the mode. Practicing and putting in Rem: lines could help too.
You totally need to checkout OctaEdit.. although it's unavailable at the moment, unfortunately. I think it would probably help an Octatrack power user like yourself.
Oh moments later I got to the part where you talk about OctaEdit. D'oh! Yes. Rusty is working on the compatibility problems :O
麦茶！Nice! :)
OT mk1 mk2 whatever, it's done really. We need a new OT.