Drummer reacts to Kai Hahto from Nightwish - Weak Fantasy Drum Cam

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  • @JasonSayersDrums
    @JasonSayersDrums  3 роки тому +19

    To be clear, yes i am talking about the singer who replaced Tarja (Anette).

    • @Ron-ei5eh
      @Ron-ei5eh 2 роки тому +6

      Then i think you will get a new revival when you start listening to Floor Jansen in Nightwish... Tarja is good ..but Floor ...you have to see for yourself.
      O and for this drummer. May i suggest some Wintersun drumcams....the song "Sons of winter & starts" preferably.

    • @ERAUsnow
      @ERAUsnow 2 роки тому +3

      Weak Fantasy was written *after* Anette was replaced by Floor Jansen. The female vocalist you can hear in this video is the Valkyrie soprano herself, not Annette. Annette's two albums are Imaginarium and Dark Passion Play. Floor took over with Endless Forms Most Beautiful, and her first concert appearance was at Wacken 2013.

    • @christoneymobile
      @christoneymobile 2 роки тому +1

      Let's just say that during the Endless Forms Most Beautiful tour, Nightwish opted to bring Stargazers back to the setlist, it was gone throughout the Annette years, but Floor kills it. I'd recommend giving it a listen so there is something familiar to work from.
      Nightwish Army Arizona Division checking in. 🌵🇺🇲

    • @seban678
      @seban678 2 роки тому +2

      The new singer lol

    • @rolandkarlsson7072
      @rolandkarlsson7072 Рік тому +3

      hehe - Jason - you really missed it this time 😁
      No one remembers Anette. Current singer is, of course, Floor. And she is stellar. Of course, Tarja is a full blown Opera singer, which Floor is not. So, there are some Tarja tunes that she makes better than Floor. One example is Stargasers. But Tarja would never be able to sing most of the modern Floor songs. When it comes to "Ghost love score" I prefer Floor, but some prefer Tarja.

  • @30110CKs
    @30110CKs 3 роки тому +29

    Legend has it, metronome companies use Kai to calibrate their metronomes....

    • @mummyduck6748
      @mummyduck6748 2 роки тому +2

      Love it 😂

    • @rolandkarlsson7072
      @rolandkarlsson7072 Рік тому +1

      @@mummyduck6748 - This legend is a bit off. It is really used for calibrating the atomic clock in Paris.

  • @kevingunning7569
    @kevingunning7569 3 роки тому +20

    They are Kai Hahto fills.

  • @Hexley_Vexley
    @Hexley_Vexley 3 роки тому +39

    I suspect you have heard Anette singing with Nightwish, she replaced Tarja and was very different in vocal style. The band now has a vocalist by the name of Floor Jansen who is in most peoples opinions as good as if not better than Tarja. If you haven't heard her before I highly recommended you give her a shot, I'm sure you'll be pleasantly surprised.👍
    Tons of NW fans lost interest after Tarja left and have been lured back after hearing Floor sing...she really is something quite special.
    The Wacken 2013 version of Ghost Love Score is a good place to start.

  • @ninau.
    @ninau. 3 роки тому +24

    He just smiles and plays, doesn't care about pyros and smokes. True professional and a joy to watch.

    • @mbo191
      @mbo191 3 роки тому +1

      I wouldn't be surprised if he actually like some of the pyros. Cryo-shots are very cold and maybe it helps to cool him down a bit.

    • @Pave999
      @Pave999 7 місяців тому

      You should check Kai's Wintersun materials, there are (few) moments when smile changes to pain. 😄

  • @stimbeh
    @stimbeh 3 роки тому +26

    No idea, if he's using it on this, but check his "Licks and Tricks with Kai Hahto" ua-cam.com/video/BGMbHHgga18/v-deo.html , where he's explaining how he closes the hi-hat with his left foot while kicking doubles. The man is crazy.
    EDIT: And in that video, there's a foot-cam.

    • @NicholasIstre
      @NicholasIstre 3 роки тому +1

      As a rally-sim driver, the first thing I thought of was "heel and toe shifting". Well after being mind boggled watching that. Still mind boggled in fact...

  • @pekkakarppinen1608
    @pekkakarppinen1608 3 роки тому +48

    Kai Hahto is not the Nightwish's original drummer. He replaced Jukka Nevalainen in about 2014 - 2015 (officially much later) due to Jukka's health problems. But anyway, he's Jukka's old friend and a very respected drummer and drumming teacher in Finland. You might receive tons of requests considering his former band "Wintersun". And yes, their songs are very hard to play, but for me they are inferior to Nightwish as a coherent music, but worked well as a technical presentation. And for the record: Floor is my queen forever!💗👸😜 Thank you and greetings from Finland! 😎👍

    • @balticstain7150
      @balticstain7150 3 роки тому

      Prefer jukka any day especially with his bandana....

    • @tubelious
      @tubelious 3 роки тому +1

      Kai Hahto with is actual old band: Rotten Sound - Obey (drum cam). You're welcome.

    • @tubelious
      @tubelious 3 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/SHoY51VCluI/v-deo.html

    • @retrospect6904
      @retrospect6904 3 роки тому +2

      I think he is still in Wintersun

    • @marcknaisch9704
      @marcknaisch9704 3 роки тому +2

      Kai is the technical better drummer

  • @rashaverak666
    @rashaverak666 3 роки тому +9

    You might not know, they have 3rd singer. It took me 8 years to find out and give them second chance, so maybe there are more like me :-)

  • @michaelsmith2723
    @michaelsmith2723 3 роки тому +7

    This is relaxing for Kai. He played more complicated bits for Wintersun. See Sons of Winter and Stars.

  • @bdconan
    @bdconan 3 роки тому +12

    If you want to hear some Opera vocals check out Shoemaker from their latest album. They have a lyric video up for it, really shows what kind of range she has.

    • @christoneymobile
      @christoneymobile 2 роки тому +3

      I concur!
      If you know, you know.
      Nightwish Army Arizona Division checking in. 🌵🇺🇲

  • @AudriusZu
    @AudriusZu 3 роки тому +21

    Missing on good music bro if ur not listening to Floor, if you even know they have 3rd singer with full soprano 4+ octave voice and multiple singing styles, just mentioning this because of reference about operatic vocals since i ran into a few people that still thinks Annette is still singing for Nightwish 🤔😅

    • @johto
      @johto 3 роки тому +3

      This.

  • @davidmeikle6719
    @davidmeikle6719 3 роки тому +5

    To answer your question regarding left foot high hat. He uses his left heel. I've a drum clinic with him. It's outrageous!

  • @MrEagle90
    @MrEagle90 Рік тому +1

    Checkout Kai Hahto playing song called stargazers.. I think that's even better

  • @michaelsmith2723
    @michaelsmith2723 3 роки тому +3

    Kai has a ton of drum cam vids on YT. Kai also is trained in jazz a and lived in NYC for a while. In his free time he plays jazz. He teaches at a Uni.

  • @inkubuzz
    @inkubuzz 3 роки тому +18

    😱 Im the total opposite... I didnt got much into nighwish in the 90s and 00s, because Tarjas singing bored me. So I lost track of Nightwish until redescovered them with Floor and was amazed.
    Well everbody has their tastes right?

    • @Lilygirl283
      @Lilygirl283 3 роки тому +6

      Same here! Every song in opera style is boring...

  • @SilverCreek24
    @SilverCreek24 3 роки тому +15

    Floor Jansen isn't exactly "new" anymore, she has been with Nightwish for almost 9 years. :)

    • @johto
      @johto 3 роки тому +2

      how time flies ;)

    • @SilverCreek24
      @SilverCreek24 3 роки тому +4

      @@johto Time flies when you have fun. And Nightwish has definitely been having fun for the last 9 years. I am so happy that they are happy. ^_^

  • @rickphil9999
    @rickphil9999 2 роки тому +2

    Hi Jason. I believe that when you are talking about the new singer that you are actually talking about Anette Olson who replaced Tarja. However, Anette was fired during the middle of the Nightwish 2012 world tour and replaced by our 6' 1" Valkyrie Goddess, Floor Jansen who has been the Nightwish lead singer since that time. Floor is an incredible vocal talent and her stage presence is unbelievable. That said... getting back to your drum reaction, I loved it. Kai Hahto has been amazing ever since he took over from Jukka (due to insomnia reasons). Thanks for this.

    • @JasonSayersDrums
      @JasonSayersDrums  2 роки тому

      That’s exactly who I was talking about. I was not a fan. I’ll have to give the new singer a listen as I’ve not listened to them for a long time!

  • @macci71
    @macci71 3 роки тому +7

    Kai Hahto performing Wintersun - Sons Of Winter And Stars (Drum Playthrough) ua-cam.com/video/tbb8m3wNXbs/v-deo.html

  • @loulagro2315
    @loulagro2315 2 роки тому +3

    Yes, he alternates pedals with his left foot. I've seen it in other videos. Incredible

  • @maxmattt
    @maxmattt 3 роки тому +14

    Rumour has it that each of his limbs has it's own brain.

  • @jessejamieson7428
    @jessejamieson7428 3 роки тому +4

    Your right he does open the hi hat with hist left as he plays dbl pedals. You can see it in the stargazers drum cam. He also uses both high hats alternating in fast parts to show off. What a jerk lo….I meant GOD. Lol

  • @JariJuslin
    @JariJuslin Рік тому +5

    Kai was already fully trained when hired to Nightwish.
    He was for example in Wintersun before NW, and compared to Wintersun Nightwish is soft and simple mainstream music.

  • @MikkoRantalainen
    @MikkoRantalainen Рік тому

    7:45 I'm not sure about this song but Kai definitely plays both pedals with his left foot in some Wintersun songs. See example here: ua-cam.com/video/tbb8m3wNXbs/v-deo.htmlsi=COL-FKukSSYm6p8U&t=728 (Kai Hahto performing Wintersun - Sons Of Winter And Stars (Drum Playthrough))

  • @OnTheRocks71
    @OnTheRocks71 Рік тому

    This is so neat. I've seen this song performed live in a few videos here on youtube but never from this perspective. Kai really does look like he's having the time of his life up there and it's so cool to see his work on display.

  • @Cosmos_Titan
    @Cosmos_Titan 3 роки тому +2

    The part when you said "there's a slight delay on the left drum", he was opening and closing hi- hat along with double kicks.😬
    Yeah the fog machines work off beat when Tuomas plays his key stabs, but I understand how it may throw people off.

  • @michaelsmith2723
    @michaelsmith2723 3 роки тому +3

    He uses his left heel for the HH and bass at the same time.

  • @mattilindstrom
    @mattilindstrom 3 роки тому +3

    To work the hi-hat while playing double kick, Kai uses his left foot heel. For a good video, there is already a comment by stimbeh below with a recommendation.

  • @jhgrc
    @jhgrc Рік тому

    At 09:33 you can see Kai move left heel, just before double kick "burst". Is he closing hihat on heel?

  • @PHDarren
    @PHDarren 3 роки тому +1

    Left foot alternating with the bass, check his Wintersun Sons of Winter & Stars studio drum cam where he plays to the song track as a demo for Extreme Drummers Universe 2014. You see it clearly on that, this one - ua-cam.com/video/tbb8m3wNXbs/v-deo.html

  • @ToTheWolves
    @ToTheWolves 3 роки тому +5

    Is he talking about Annette? He must be talking about Anette.

  • @Gibbetoo
    @Gibbetoo 3 роки тому +3

    he uses his heel for hi-hat when he plays bass and that other thing whit his left feet..

  • @ralfmeyer9086
    @ralfmeyer9086 3 роки тому +13

    Oh a lost Tarja Minion. Nice. Today QUEEN FLOOR 🤘

    • @johto
      @johto 3 роки тому

      I bet these minions have somehow managed to avoid the siren's call and Her spell casting. 😏

    • @jaanahedemaki6993
      @jaanahedemaki6993 3 роки тому

      Hi Floor cheerleader hi! Imagine having respect towards one of the founding members of Nightwish, Tarja.I know it's difficult concept for you to understand.Imagine how hard it is to be Nightwish fan in the middle of cheerleaders like yourself?You can always go stan solo Floor.

    • @jaanahedemaki6993
      @jaanahedemaki6993 3 роки тому

      What about this concept for you johto: Be a Nightwish fan without thinking Floor is somehow better than everybody else in the band.I know it must be hard for you to understand, even unheard of.Because you seem to be one of the Floor cheerleaders that chant those "Valkyrie-goddess" -one liners in every reaction to Nightwish. That's a definition of Floor minion.You're welcome

    • @Hexley_Vexley
      @Hexley_Vexley 3 роки тому +2

      @@jaanahedemaki6993 Lol the irony when YOU have been all over this comment section more than anyone else crying about people loving Floor...you see the hypocrisy there right?😜

    • @jaanahedemaki6993
      @jaanahedemaki6993 3 роки тому

      @@Hexley_Vexley And so what if I've been "all over" this comment section?" Is there a rule that you can only reply once and that's it?My responses are not valid because of i'm not?Makes me a hypocrite?Because I don't write just one-liners?Sometimes it takes more than one reply and if people are replying to me, I may reply back, if the CONVERSATION interests me. You may skip my responses if you don't find any points in them besides being ironic.At least I'm not part of the" army" who goes from one reaction to another, repeating the same things over and over again: For example:"Floor is the valkyrie goddess who is the best singer in this world." How does THAT add any value to the conversation?

  • @martin.w3707
    @martin.w3707 3 роки тому +4

    Tar-J-a? LoL & I wouldn't exactly call Floor "new". 8yrs isn't exactly yesterday.

    • @drakesilmore3760
      @drakesilmore3760 2 роки тому +1

      He was talking about Annette even. He's out of the loop.

  • @R---66---R
    @R---66---R 11 місяців тому

    Kai Hahto, the ultimate 'kai' to hang out with!

  • @Anna-s2m4u
    @Anna-s2m4u Рік тому

    I think you think about Anette because Floor have great operatic voice, check Shoemaker song and you will know live from Hellfest

  • @corneliusantonius3108
    @corneliusantonius3108 3 роки тому +3

    Kai Hatho is Jukka's Sensei

  • @CCEDE73
    @CCEDE73 3 роки тому +2

    How can they isolate the sound from drums so clearly from the rest of the music?

    • @JasonSayersDrums
      @JasonSayersDrums  3 роки тому +1

      Normally due to the size of the stages, most of the other musicians will all be running through isolated cabinets hidden offstage and running in ear monitors. Which keeps the feedback from stage down to a bare minimum.

  • @jroutasula5250
    @jroutasula5250 3 роки тому +1

    Some interview he said he made himself pedal to play hi-hat same time.

  • @kristianp.405
    @kristianp.405 3 роки тому +1

    22x20 bassdrums,
    Pearl Masterworks

  • @rickctaylor7753
    @rickctaylor7753 6 днів тому

    In answer to your question, it was actually a Kai Hahto fill. You're welcome.

  • @gregjetnikoff7124
    @gregjetnikoff7124 3 роки тому +2

    Strange listening to a reaction to Nightwish without hearing Floor ( Greatest singer I have ever heard in my 68 years). However I is fantastic to get a real drummer reaction to the drumming. You might want to check out the original drummer as well ( Jukka). Not better nor worse, but still absolutely awesome.

  • @jantje57
    @jantje57 3 роки тому +1

    Thx for this vid.
    Funny you mentioned the name of one of the singers of this band when doing a drumcam reaction, in which hardly any singing is to be heard. Sadly this starts debates on the different singers of NW.
    There is a video of the band with the techs showing the equipment:
    ua-cam.com/video/6dhSkfbHXJc/v-deo.html
    Drums start around 10 mins in.
    Greetz from the Netherlands.

    • @drakesilmore3760
      @drakesilmore3760 2 роки тому +1

      There's no debate. There is one objectively correct answer. And then there's people who think Floor isn't one of the best singers in the world.

  • @hextatik_sound
    @hextatik_sound 3 роки тому

    Kai surely plays double bass and closes the hihat at the same time. You can see him using similar technique here: ua-cam.com/video/BGMbHHgga18/v-deo.html

  • @Pappa_66
    @Pappa_66 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you wery many! I have to disagree😁. Kai is an absolute beast! A human metronome. Pls watch also "Wintersun" Kai's previous band if you want to see the real beast😆.

  • @hiufernando7340
    @hiufernando7340 3 роки тому

    Great reaction. Anyway, can i request your reaction to superb band from japan?
    The band is call "Lovebites"
    They all The Beautiful Queens metal band right now in the earth. They are really really World class musicians. Phenomenal.
    And they have a lot fans too.
    The song is "Winds of Transylvania"
    Hope you check out, and can enjoy it too. Big thanks🙏

  • @jabgibson
    @jabgibson 3 роки тому +4

    I was waiting for you to say "just joking!!!" about the Tarja / Floor comment. Portnoy fill for sure. I love the drums on this song. Great reaction. Thanks.

  • @jyrkifroberg6105
    @jyrkifroberg6105 8 місяців тому

    Jukka was 2013

  • @marielleklimsop
    @marielleklimsop 3 роки тому +1

    You haven’t heard the latest singer yet? Floor is so much better than Second singer who came after Tarja.

  • @KaiHellmann
    @KaiHellmann 11 місяців тому

    Its a Kai fills 😊

  • @jadrankadeljanin5024
    @jadrankadeljanin5024 3 роки тому +11

    Noone give a f about tarja

    • @jaanahedemaki6993
      @jaanahedemaki6993 3 роки тому +4

      Nightwish fans do.Which you are OBVIOUSLY not.Hi Floor freak hi! Noone give a f about your toxic attitude.

    • @pro-v7500
      @pro-v7500 3 роки тому +3

      @@jaanahedemaki6993 lol seriously. Everyone has there preference, which is perfectly normal. But comments like the one above is toxic AF. Regardless which one you prefer, there is no reason to to say shit like they did. Tarja, Anette, or Floor; there is always someone that has to be that childish. I’ve even see a channel called “Floor Jansen Haters” who makes videos to specifically hate on Floor because “she took Anette’s job” and pretends like Tarja never even existed. Lol crazy stans be crazy.

    • @jaanahedemaki6993
      @jaanahedemaki6993 3 роки тому +1

      @@pro-v7500 I mean to say "noone give a f about tarja" is SO IGNORANT that I don't even know where to begin....Tarja was one of the founding members of Nightwish, she gave her voice to them.Which gave Nightwish, the band, voice and defined the band to different direction that they could be without her.So no Nightwish fan would ever say that shit.Only some Floor cheerleader who thinks she's the second coming and savior of Nightwish.
      Now: Floor is absolutely GREAT and LOVELY and fits in Nightwish.I adore her. 😃But it doesn't mean that I'll ever trash Tarja or Anette.Those cheerleaders piss me off with their ignorant one liners.Thank F I haven't seen that hater channel.👀 I don't know why the concept: Respect the band and it's history is so difficult to some?Imagine being Anette fan in this fandom?Impossible.I feel like there are cheerleaders everywhere and actual Nightwish fans try to exist somewhere in the middle.I feel like I don't fit in this fandom but that's ok, I don't seek approval or "army." If I'd have to choose one person from Nightwish that'd be TUOMAS for OBVIOUS reasons but I don't.I am a Nightwish fan and not a cheerleader of a certain person.I think Jadranka Deljanin should stan solo Floor and leave Nightwish alone.But Floor is too lovely to have toxic fans like that.Frankly they should go bother some other fandom.

    • @NightwishArena
      @NightwishArena 3 роки тому +1

      @@jaanahedemaki6993 Very well said. I was a proud trooper on NW army when this reaction scene started to take a place few years ago, but now I have started to hate that word. There are too many messed up Floor worshippers now, who only seem to despise Nightwish history and past singers. Maybe it is what army does the best, be on war.

    • @dyingbreed1951
      @dyingbreed1951 3 роки тому +3

      Sure, this comment is ignorant and stupid but also there are those from the opposite "camp" who go around trashing Floor and many who trash Anette. So, saying things like the "army" are a bunch of Floor worshipers make you just as ignorant as this guy up here. Your generalizing an entire fanbase. There are "worshippers" on all sides of this argument. Generalizing helps nobody.

  • @rTractor
    @rTractor 2 місяці тому

    Kai uses triggers.

  • @loulagro2315
    @loulagro2315 3 роки тому +5

    Your mistake off the top about Nightwish's singers is that Floor isn't trying to "cover" Tarja doing operatic vocals. Floor is doing her own thing and doing things Tarja could never do. Whether or not you like it is irrelevant. I grow ever so tired of nothing but operatic vocals after about one whole song, while Floor possesses so many colors and vocal approaches. But that's just me. Neither of it has anything to do with a drum analysis video.

  • @ejllamobeolan5025
    @ejllamobeolan5025 3 роки тому +2

    No disrespect to what's her name! But Floor is best ever. ... ..

  • @drumsrox
    @drumsrox 3 роки тому

    Mike Portnoy fills? wait are you serious? I’m sorry but Mike did not invent those Fills lol, they’re just certain drum rudiments.Do not mean to come off as aggressive, but it was a little of putting for you to compare Kai to Portnoy lol they’re two separate Drummers.

    • @JasonSayersDrums
      @JasonSayersDrums  3 роки тому

      Both Peart and Portnoy both get credited for using a certain type of drum fill. Essentially I agree, they are all forms of rudiments. Names just get associated to them once they become part of a drummers arsenal.

  • @jaskau2462
    @jaskau2462 Рік тому

    🤩👌💥💯🎼
    🤘😎 🇫🇮 💙

  • @helky8
    @helky8 3 роки тому +1

    Are you really saying you don't like Floor? 🤪

    • @johto
      @johto 3 роки тому +3

      I bet he's confused and thinks Floor is Anette

    • @helky8
      @helky8 3 роки тому +2

      @@johto hope so! Then I actually understand him...

    • @Frankamaria
      @Frankamaria 3 роки тому

      @@helky8 well, it is ok having other favourite singers others than Floor

    • @helky8
      @helky8 3 роки тому

      @@Frankamaria I don't take it very serious, that's why the emoji.

    • @drakesilmore3760
      @drakesilmore3760 2 роки тому

      @@Frankamaria No, actually, it's illegal in the Netherlands.

  • @katconley2995
    @katconley2995 Рік тому

    You are entitled to your taste in music. But... try again to listen to Floor with an open mind. There is no "better" with these two. Just maybe more versatile. You can't be total opera or total anything if you are versatile enough to everything Nightwish does. Let me know what you think.

  • @aarie9135
    @aarie9135 2 роки тому +1

    Seems u would be put off by the piros.... Maybe because u are sitting in your bedroom. Where is your demo bru??

  • @marinak7483
    @marinak7483 3 роки тому +1

    Tarja🇫🇮💙🤘

  • @svolos1971
    @svolos1971 3 роки тому

    Not so sure about you being a big Tarja fun...It is pronounced tuh-ree-uh not Tuhr-juh...

    • @josbogers
      @josbogers Рік тому

      The pronunciation of Neil Peart's last name is "peert" not "pirt".

  • @myspacewolf
    @myspacewolf 8 місяців тому

    Tarja wouldn't be able to sing this, She has too deep of an accent and too strong vibrato, It wouldn't sound right... Enter Floor, who CAN sing it all including the growls Marko did when Tarja was in the band... Why don't people compare the two different drummers or the three different bass guitarists?

  • @quebecforce111
    @quebecforce111 10 місяців тому

    Tarja are not good compare to Floor , sorry man . Floor are the most versatile singer of the world

  • @balticstain7150
    @balticstain7150 3 роки тому

    I prefer jukka in stead especially with his bandana....can't get into kai

  • @German_1
    @German_1 2 роки тому

    Since every person that has a channel is an automatic vocal coach telling a world class singer what she's doing wrong..what a joke!. Since you seem to find fault with a professional drummer that travels the world, I guess that means you've taught professionals around the world...no? Teaching 5th graders doesn't make you a drum coach. At least not at this level!

    • @drakesilmore3760
      @drakesilmore3760 2 роки тому

      You don't have to be better to be able to find a fault. He has a slight delay, that's perfect, it's what makes humans superior to robots. It sounds natural. There is actually scientific research about drum beats player perfectly by a computer and played with slight delays and imperfections. People prefer the imperfections.

  • @docbob66
    @docbob66 8 місяців тому

    learn how to pronounce Tarja!

  • @Aquintal30
    @Aquintal30 Рік тому

    You don't like Floor Jansen...., Im out of here, for no return....best regards....

    • @JasonSayersDrums
      @JasonSayersDrums  Рік тому

      No it’s Annette I am referring to. I haven’t listened to them since but I should.

  • @rientsdijkstra4266
    @rientsdijkstra4266 Рік тому

    Tarja = terrible.