FINALLY! 4K60p HDMI cables that work with my Ninja V+ & ProRes RAW HQ

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  • @DiscoverwithDan
    @DiscoverwithDan  2 роки тому

    If you ordered one for yourself and found it to work, please leave a comment below!

  • @garethreeve5578
    @garethreeve5578 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much, Dan! I just picked up my ZILR cable today after my Kondor Blue cable went bust. The ZILR has such a nice, snug fit compared to the Kondor. Thanks for making this video!

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  2 місяці тому

      That was my biggest disappointment with KB - how loose it felt. The ZILR is definitely a much tighter and more secure fit. Glad you found this video helpful!

  • @flaviopresutti
    @flaviopresutti 2 роки тому +4

    I use the same, ZILR it's realiable.
    I use it with my Panasonic S5.. I record on 4k 10BIT... 60, 50, 25, 24... and also try a lot of 6k RAW, never cut the signal.
    Amazing Cable, I'm going to buy the 1meter version with your link!
    Thanks!

  • @ajalbetjr
    @ajalbetjr 2 роки тому

    I can also confirm the issues from the Kondor Blue cables, and that I've had ZERO issues with the ZILRs; I'm SO glad I found this video on UA-cam... or did UA-cam's algorithms 'find' me??? I own an A1, a Ninja V+, and both the 17.7" and 39" versions (straight cable)... thanks for this post!!

    • @rameshchand-visuals
      @rameshchand-visuals Рік тому

      I own an A1 and looking for monitor recorder. Is Ninja V+ is fully compatible with A1. Can it support 8K 30p recording. Your experience will help me to decide.

    • @ajalbetjr
      @ajalbetjr Рік тому

      @ramesh chand The Ninja is fully compatible with the A1... HOWEVER the Sony A1 will NOT output 8K to the Ninja!! It will output RAW, but at like 3.6K, as well as 4K 60P, etc. ... Please look at Gerald Undone's two excellent UA-cam vids on the A1 and getting the best output out of it - Thanks!! (As far as Sony is concerned, SURELY they are protecting their Venice Cinema cameras, since the Venice II 8K version uses the SAME proprietary sensor as the A1! Cheers!!

    • @rameshchand-visuals
      @rameshchand-visuals Рік тому

      @@ajalbetjr Thanks a tonne! I will watch suggested videos.

  • @MrMotormok
    @MrMotormok Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video!
    May i ask why my V+ get No signal when i change my A1 HDMI output to 4320p ??? Please help.
    I use brand new Verbatim 10k cables.

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Рік тому +1

      Glad you found it helpful! The V+ is only capable of 4K60p from the Sony A1. 8K is not supported. You have to record that to the internal CF card.

    • @MrMotormok
      @MrMotormok Рік тому

      No luck 😢
      I ordered the ZILR cable anyway, thanks again for the demonstration.

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Рік тому

      @@MrMotormok You got it! Those cables have been serving me well without a glitch since I've posted this video. I hope it does the same for you.

  • @CaseyHardman
    @CaseyHardman 2 роки тому +5

    Can confirm the Kondor Blue issues. I'm on my second coiled cable from them. Even though this one works, I'm always holding my breath when hooking everything up, and it definitely doesn't stretch enough for me to feel comfortable using it with the monitor on top of the camera. Again, it works, but it's not the most confidence-inducing experience. lol Had the same flickering issue with the first one on my a7S III and Shinobi.

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  2 роки тому

      Sorry to hear that. I hate that feeling! The hdmi 2.1 cable has been rock solid for me. I know kondor blue also has an hdmi 2.1 out in the wild. I just got mine thru Amazon but it took like a month for it to arrive. Best of luck!

    • @GamersPlayerUnion
      @GamersPlayerUnion 2 роки тому +1

      You guys just save me some time and frustration. I was just about to hit the go button for the Kondor Blue

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  2 роки тому +1

      @@GamersPlayerUnion Right on!

    • @KONDORBLUE
      @KONDORBLUE Рік тому

      Wow so sorry you encountered a faulty cable! We stand behind every product and can happily test and ship you a free replacement. Our 2.1 8K cables are also ideal for this and we have more options now. Thanks for the feedback and sharing your experiences!

  • @joaquinperalba1624
    @joaquinperalba1624 2 роки тому +3

    The cables you recommend provide 10 bit color …. I’m concerned that may impact prores raw, since the camera output at raw is 16 bit and then converted by the Atomos to 12bit, so I guess the hdmi cable should handle 12 bit as a minimum, if you want to get prores raw with 12 bit color …. I’m not an expert so I might be wrong ….

  • @ReelFilm2016
    @ReelFilm2016 4 місяці тому

    Hello sir, great video, really interesting. I wonder if I might ask a question to see if you might be able to offer any advice.
    I recently purchased a second hand Ninja Inferno 7” and the monitor appears to have the same issue you discuss in the video.
    I am currently using quite an old Sony camera (HVR Z5E) with an HDMI output. It can output 1080 25p externally and this is recognised by the Ninja Inferno. I am using an Atomos Pro Video HDMI cable, but I am still getting small drop outs. The drop outs occur either during recording or when I am just monitoring.
    I have played around with the HDMI input settings but the problem persists. Any ideas?
    Also, The SSD which I got with the Inferno is a Samsung 850 Pro. When I record, it captures the video, but creates a new file, when the cut out occurs. it is also displaying the SKIPPY sign (which I have now researched) and I have been reading about compatible SSDs.
    Any idea if this SSD is good enough for the Ninja Inferno and any recommendations for a better SSD. Thanks in advance.

  • @dinbali
    @dinbali 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this very helpful video. I ordered the 8k cable in 45cm and 1m

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  2 роки тому +1

      Awesome! The 8K has been working SOLID for me. Glad this video was helpful for you.

  • @jakewill6861
    @jakewill6861 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you dude! Just got the ninja v+ and definitely don't have the right hdmi. Of all products who would have though an hdmi cable would be so difficult to shop for

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  2 роки тому

      i went through the same struggle. hoped this video helped you out!

  • @bronwinoctober9998
    @bronwinoctober9998 Рік тому +1

    hey Dan, I was looking all over the internet for a good cable and came across this video, I ordered it and I'm more than super happy with it, soooo affordable and works fantastic, its a long enough cable and super light weight. thank you!!!

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Рік тому +1

      Glad you can benefit from my experiments and failures. They're been rock solid for me so far!

  • @mrnttv2966
    @mrnttv2966 2 роки тому +1

    Have the same problem on my ninja v+ with the xh2s... gonna try this cable soon

  • @HPantea
    @HPantea Місяць тому +1

    Super disappointed in Kondor Blue, I just bought a KONDOR BLUE 4K HDMI and had the exact same experience as you. I only purchased it because I wanted a coiled cable for running it on a gimbal. I've been using MonoPrice & Smallrig Ultra slim cables for 2 years and have had no issues running my Ninja V.

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Місяць тому +1

      Yeah the KB HDMI cables leave some things to be desired, particularly the HDMI fit. But none of that matters if the cables don't transmit properly!

  • @GABRIELLESCARBEAU
    @GABRIELLESCARBEAU Місяць тому

    Hi Dan,
    I have some grainy image issues with my atomos ninja v that my sony a7iii dont show at all.
    Super clean on my sony screen but look terrible on my atomos ninja...
    dont know if someone can help me with that!
    I'm using the cable that comes with the atomos ninja.

  • @Lee-haw
    @Lee-haw Рік тому +1

    I have the "no input" problem with the Atomos Shinobi 7 , while connecting Hdmi, I've tried many standard cables, but all lose signal.
    I thought the problem is in the hdmi socket in the monitor.
    I will try

  • @daltonbrowne7980
    @daltonbrowne7980 9 місяців тому

    I’ve been looking for a reliable long non-coiled cable, thanks!

  • @DCMFIlmsStories
    @DCMFIlmsStories 2 роки тому +1

    Appreciate the video!

  • @mariosinisterra193
    @mariosinisterra193 Місяць тому

    Hi Dan
    I have the A1 and the Ninja V+ n I am having issues setting up ProRes 422,HQ at 24fps., I wonder if this cable will solve the Problem ?
    Thanks

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Місяць тому +1

      Hi I have the same setup. I didn't really ever have trouble at 24fps. Only ever at 4k 60p where I'm really stressing the output of the camera. It could be a cable issue since I've found many cables that don't feel very trustworthy. Hard to tell. If you did have this cable, it would only just help you eliminate one potential source of the problem, but cannot guarantee it'll fix your problem.

    • @mariosinisterra193
      @mariosinisterra193 Місяць тому

      @@DiscoverwithDan thanks Dan for ur time, this it’s exactly what I am talking about .. ua-cam.com/video/oi-tKBSIy74/v-deo.htmlsi=MDFtinUI64pDSgjh . I will go ahead to purchase the cable through ur affiliated link thanks again

  • @DouglasDoNascimento
    @DouglasDoNascimento Рік тому

    Would this cable work for the Lumix S5IIX for 4K 60 recording on a Ninja V?

  • @Jeff-zc6rr
    @Jeff-zc6rr 7 місяців тому

    You are limited to 4K with the micro hd cable. There is only an hdmi to hdmi 2.1 version but then you have to get an adapter, and will the adapter ruin the link?

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  7 місяців тому

      My A1 has a full sized HDMI port. In my experience, any adaptor I've used (I've tried an L-shaped adapter to help relieve the strain), was a point of failure. I do not recommend adaptors (unless it's very specifically stated to work as an HDMI 2.1 or something) since they're usually bunk compared to a nice cable.

  • @BenPhanStudios
    @BenPhanStudios Рік тому

    Great video! I use a Shinobi and my false colors are inaccurate - they do not show red even when I severely overexpose an image. Could this be a cable issue? Thanks!

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Рік тому

      Hm, I don't think it's a cable issue, though you can't say for certain. Have you tried updating the firmware?

    • @BenPhanStudios
      @BenPhanStudios Рік тому

      I figured it out, I had to apply a Color Space Transform LUT in camera and send it over the HDMI output to the monitor. Thanks!

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for posting the solution here! I hope this helps someone else in your position!@@BenPhanStudios

  • @A77ila80
    @A77ila80 2 роки тому +1

    straight to the point, thanks appreciated

  • @tello_yo7546
    @tello_yo7546 28 днів тому

    so, i have bought 5 condor blue cables for all my equipment, and, they are not good? wasted a lot of money I guess. thanks for your info.

  • @sidehop
    @sidehop 11 місяців тому

    Thanks Dan! Just got the a7R V and was searching on Google for this. You must be doing something right with the content & SEO ;) sub'd!

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  11 місяців тому

      Hey there! Glad you found it helpful! I honestly just got tired of trying so many bad cables, I just thought this would be helpful for anyone who happened to stumble upon it. Stoked for you!

  • @Jeff-zc6rr
    @Jeff-zc6rr 7 місяців тому

    What about the 6K? proRes?

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  7 місяців тому

      I use a Sony A1, I've never shot in or tried 6K on it. Sorry!

  • @rommel5241
    @rommel5241 4 місяці тому

    Old post but exactly the issue I am having. TY!

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  4 місяці тому

      @@rommel5241 glad it helped you out. My cable is still going strong!

  • @KALINAmoto
    @KALINAmoto 7 місяців тому

    Maybe its coil problem?

  • @jeffbone7100
    @jeffbone7100 9 місяців тому

    Imagine my excitement when I found this video. Eureka! I have been having this input drop out issue since I purchased the Ninja V. I am trying to use it with my Sony HVR-V1U camcorder. I know it can be done becasue I've seen UA-cam videos posted with the Ninja V and V1U setup. So, I ordered the cable you recommended. In fact, I was so excited I ordered two! I'm sure you can imagine my disappointment when the dropouts were just as bad with the new cables. I have over $1,000 into the Ninja along with 12 different sets of cables - all of which are no better than another regardless of whether they cost $5 or $35. I have a setup that won't do anything that I need. It wight as well be a boat anchor. Any thoughts?

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  9 місяців тому

      Oh no! That really sucks, I'm sorry to hear that. I'm not 100% sure how it works with the V since I have the V+. And since the V+ can do 8K, I don't know if they changed the HDMI spec from the V to handle a larger bandwidth. My suggestion might be to actually be to upgrade the Ninja? Any firmware updates that were missed? Are you sure the youtube example with the Sony cam was using the same codec/bitrate as you? Just some ideas off the top of my head. I know that Sony can just be really picky with recording media + bitrate combinations. Even my A1 won't record 4K120p unless I have the correct SD/CFexpress card inside it.

    • @jeffbone7100
      @jeffbone7100 9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks, Dan, for the response. I have the latest firmware update. I have also tried several other recommended cables with the same result, including the very expensive Blue Condor Gerald Undone Mk2 cable. That cable was worse than most of the other ones I purchased! I have tried every recording setting on the Ninja V with every cable and with or without the SSD card installed. The drop out issues are the same. Early this morning I reached out to the person who posted the video of their kids using the HVR-V1U and the Ninja V. I asked what HDMI he's using and what settings he has on both units. Hopefully, he has some advice. Defective unit?@@DiscoverwithDan

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  9 місяців тому

      Thanks for the update. It could very well be defective or the information not accurate about it's compatibility with the Ninja V. I also have that blue Kondor Blue cable and thought the build quality was subpar. The Cable ends don't sit very well with the ports - mine were a little loose. I hope the compatibility issue gets figured out for you!@@jeffbone7100

  • @Thirdbornentertainment
    @Thirdbornentertainment Рік тому

    i used the evo gimbals cable and it was cutting out on my first shoot. very disappointing

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Рік тому

      Feels pretty bad to have your multi thousand dollar kit go bunk due to a $10 cable! Sorry to hear that.

    • @Thirdbornentertainment
      @Thirdbornentertainment Рік тому

      @@DiscoverwithDan 60fps 4k was the culprit.

  • @duyguertan3818
    @duyguertan3818 Рік тому

    Hello, are atomos ninja v ninja ultra and shogun ultra monitors compatible with HDMI 2.1 cable? I want to use them for raw recording.

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Рік тому

      Sure, but if you're shooting Sony, no raw is supported. HDMI 2.1 cables can be backwards compatible with HDMI 2.0

  • @sjcproductionsandmedia
    @sjcproductionsandmedia Рік тому

    Well i just ordered 2 Atomos mini to full cables. At least i wont have to wonder but that is way too expensive. Hopefully they last

    • @mychanneltoletyouknow
      @mychanneltoletyouknow Рік тому

      do u use a cage? if so, which brand?
      for example, my atmos cable isnt compatible with tilta cage cable clamps.

  • @felipejulian
    @felipejulian Рік тому

    I have an A7siii and I Just bought a Tilta Cage with HDMI extension cable, so doesn’t work? I don’t really understood this part . Tks a lot. I will buy the 2.1 ZILR cable any way

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Рік тому

      Hi Felipe, yes I tested the HDMI extension by Tilta. It did not work even with my new found cables and it's a weakpoint in the chain. I originally got it since I could secure it against the cage and prevent accidental disconnections, but sadly the cable seemed like it was not in spec - at least for the A1 and the higher bandwidth codecs/resolutions/framerates. I've since switched to Kondor Blues cage for better ergonomics. Please update us if you find a workaround!

    • @felipejulian
      @felipejulian Рік тому

      @@DiscoverwithDan tks for the answer bro. Yeah, I'll teste when everything is arrived and let's see. I'll let you know the result. Tks a lot

    • @IcyBoiStar
      @IcyBoiStar Рік тому

      @@felipejulian did it work?

  • @abhi_cinematik
    @abhi_cinematik Рік тому

    @disover with Dan I am unable to record 4k 120p on Ninja Atomos
    with Sony A1

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Рік тому

      Yes, unfortunately, the only way to get 120fps is to record to the expensive cf cards internally :(

    • @NickMirro
      @NickMirro Рік тому

      @@DiscoverwithDan Well then why does the NinjaV+ record 4K120?

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Рік тому

      Just because it can, doesn't mean that it's supported in combination the Sony A1. Sony might have HDMI limitations. Or for example, you can only record RAW with Canon cameras, not Sony. They probably having licensing agreements.

  • @Lazyprofessional
    @Lazyprofessional 2 роки тому +1

    I just ordered the ZILR 2.0b cable and got it today for my Ninja V for Pro of my A7SIII and it only works for 24FPS. 60FPS the flicker happens like you demonstrated above. Any other recommendations? Or should I go with the 2.1 cable even tho my camera doesn't output 8K or 4K120.

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  2 роки тому +1

      Sorry to hear that! I've been shooting mostly with my HDMI 2.1 8K cable and have encountered zero issues when doing 4K60P. I think it's safe to say that the 2.1 cable has a higher bandwidth than the 2.0b.

    • @MrLucrativethought
      @MrLucrativethought Рік тому +1

      So why not just buy the atamos cable? It’s same price as 2.1 cable

    • @LaLogic2
      @LaLogic2 Рік тому

      @@MrLucrativethought it's known to suck believe it or not

    • @NickMirro
      @NickMirro 7 місяців тому

      Make sure you have a supported SSD, though that's no guarantee 🙄

  • @genxtechguy
    @genxtechguy 2 роки тому +1

    Very helpful. Question: Do you use the Canon R3 or Sony a1 for your videos? I see the R3 is listed on your Kit site. I’ve been stuck on trying to decide which of these to get for video (they’re both great on the photography side). Just wondering about your thoughts if you’ve used both.

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  2 роки тому +1

      I've had a pre-order on the R3 for a super long time and eventually cancel in favor of the A1. Better lenses that are MUCH quieter as well (most noticeably the 50 f/1.2 offerings, the Canon RF lens is LOUD). I haven't regretted the decision at all. Thanks for pointing that out, I gotta update my kit list!

  • @seabassmorris
    @seabassmorris Рік тому

    Thank you for this video!!!!!

  • @anthonybryantmedia
    @anthonybryantmedia Рік тому

    Shame they dont have a 5m one. I moved from Ninja V to Ninja V plus and having so much issue with trying to get a signal stable. Even with supposed 4k 60hz 18gbps

  • @TheOriginalRonaldo
    @TheOriginalRonaldo 2 роки тому

    Considering you have a Sony A1 can you record 4k 120fps externally on the Atomos Ninja V+ ?

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  2 роки тому

      No, you can't which sucks. I wish I could avoid using the hyper expensive cfexpress cards but to get 120fps on the Ninja, you need to do it via SDI, which the A1 does not have. You would need something like an FX6.

  • @MrDavinciResolve
    @MrDavinciResolve Рік тому

    Can you do 4k 23.976 as well not the atomos

  • @enriquemartin8655
    @enriquemartin8655 Рік тому

    Hello. I am hoping you can assist me with an issue with my recently purchased NINJA V. I shoot with the PANA GH-6. I am also shooting PRO RES on both devices, When I download the NINJA files it shows as MOV. I have contacted ATOMOS and awaiting their response. Can you advise me what if anything I am doing wrong?

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Рік тому +1

      Yes, I believe ProRes = Apple = .mov. If you want .mp4, you have to shoot in another codec like h.264 or h.265

  • @AcastroAX
    @AcastroAX 2 роки тому +1

    Yeah there’s something wrong with your camera ninja combination. I have the R6 and have no issues with the Kondor Blue

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  2 роки тому

      Precisely, the A1 can output 8K video over HDMI, while the R6 does not and therefore doesn't also require a high bandwidth, compatible cable.

    • @AcastroAX
      @AcastroAX 2 роки тому

      @@DiscoverwithDan not a single time in the video you mentioned 8k …. You always talked about 4K 60p … for 8k you need a 2.1 HDMI cable the Kondor Blue is 2.0.

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  2 роки тому

      @@AcastroAX My mistake, it's been a while since I put out this video and I think KB also now has a 2.1 cable. I only mention the 2.1 since it would have the extra bandwidth required for some of the higher bitrate 4K HDMI outputs the A1 is capable of. It might just be a brand/Sony thing. Anyway, the point is that this video specifically address the A1 in combination with the Ninja Atmos. Don't have an R6 so I can't comment on their compatibility, but thanks for letting us know that it works for the R6.

    • @sarahmarieee
      @sarahmarieee Рік тому

      How has the Kondor Blue cable held up for you? I have the R5 and use Atomos’ own cable for the Ninja V+ but after 4 months of using the cable, it drastically got worse with the connection 😩

    • @AcastroAX
      @AcastroAX Рік тому +1

      @@sarahmarieee it still working great! It is probably the connection on the R5

  • @TheVeganTravelShow
    @TheVeganTravelShow 2 роки тому

    Appreciate the video ✌️

  • @AVISIONMUSICTV
    @AVISIONMUSICTV Рік тому

    What about 4K dci?

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  Рік тому

      Can't say I shoot much in DCI, but from their website, the atomos supports it and the tiny bump in resolution shouldn't affect performance of the cable that much. can't say for sure though, I have to test for it.

  • @ddelacruz
    @ddelacruz 2 роки тому

    👍👍

  • @cinematicknifeart9744
    @cinematicknifeart9744 2 роки тому

    What about 4K@120

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  2 роки тому

      Unfortunately the only way you can get 120fps on a Ninja V+ is via SDI cable, which the Sony A1 does not support. You would need something like a FX6

    • @cinematicknifeart9744
      @cinematicknifeart9744 2 роки тому

      @@DiscoverwithDan I saw a 4K 120 cable that was the same as the 60 FPS cable.

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  2 роки тому

      @@cinematicknifeart9744 i bought the 8K cable (hdmi 2.1) because i knew it could handle the bandwidth of 4k60p. it's been working great for me so far! I also bought the normal 4k60p cable and that works. I would think the 120P cable would work as well.

  • @sandiegolive8769
    @sandiegolive8769 10 місяців тому

    T

  • @sam78882
    @sam78882 7 місяців тому

    Kondor Blue is junk made in China but the very best is the ZILR I’ve been using for a very long time it is pricy but it does the job ! Kondor Blue thinks they are the top of the line they are only pricy for real junk I’ve placed last year my first order talking to Jeffrey thinking it is made in the USA and I’ve told him that it it turned to be junk from China so I stopped placing orders with them . But I highly recommend the ZILR CABLE

    • @DiscoverwithDan
      @DiscoverwithDan  7 місяців тому

      Thank you for the added recommendation! Yes, the ZILR stuff has way tighter tolerances, even in the HDMI port - very impressed by their quality. I'm just glad it works as advertised, which seems to be harder to find in products these days.