I came to diamond with fiddle mid after not playing for a year. (Rank before was gold). I can see we have similar ideas and thought process. I think you almost perfected the fiddle mid technique
The vid was so useful, I've read the spreadsheet's content and I love these kind of in depth guides. I'm a yorick main what made me into yorick even further because of the in depth matchup spreadsheets (thanks slogdog). What I suggest is instead of champion names, have their icon instead. Also some parts are hard to read because it's lightgreen and the text color is white without an outline. But the content is very very useful, informative and well done. I will main this for sure!
Ive been playing midsticks since the old days and just recently coming back after many years from taking a break, middlesticks is very good, ahri tends to be the only hard counter on fiddle.
wasn't feeling fiddlesticks lately but then i tried your build and got 10/0/8 on the first game, 18 KDA! Thanks for giving me hope again playing my favourite champion!
LMAO real chads go 3cs/min give it a try i think mid is way more fun than jungle but i guess its just personal preference imo middlesticks might be stronger than junglesticks in the current meta
Excellent work, in theory, most heroes can reach good rates if you play on positions they do well(their non-primary position) right? l am saying, what if l someone masters enchanter top-mid-adc(not AD damage)? Like Soraka or Lulu? Or, it solely depends the amount of lethality (not the actual stat) of champ's kit? Fiddlesticks for example, can be pretty lethal, that also means high impact and/or player agency? While enchanters have low impact or depends solely on their teammates to perform or impact well?
Yes I would say that you would have a way harder time climbing as enchanter solo lane because you dont deal a lot of damage so it makes you dependent on your teammates If you play Rengar Top or Samira Top for example you have way more damage in your kit therefore way more agency and can carry games by yourself
@@karthusslesticks So you need damage. Reminds me of Ana from Overwatch. The perfect support for me. Can deal damage to Squishy targets and kill them but also output healing to allies. Obviously, her grenade which disables enemy healing makes her even more powerful. Do you think Senna is similar to Ana? Or if there is a hero that can heal but also damage (not high damage but at least highest out of its category of support) l just love enchanters/healers
You're probably looking at seraphine or sona, although idk how their dmg will be after recent changes. Otherwise if you wanna still deal dmg while having some ability to heal (but not being enchanter / actual healer) you can try senna or nilah. They deal dmg while doing some healing to teammates. @@deadspace4755
@@yuutsu7201 Senna for sure, she has a global ulti like Soraka(but different). And can stack throughout the game, so if you stay alive and farm, you can become strong.
No I dont because i usually crash 2nd/3rd wave then i can ward their raptors + in higher elos their mid or supp will cover the raptors and chunk me which I dont wanna risk + your effigies can get destroyed super easily at raptor camp
I've one-tricked Fiddle mid since season 1 and hit GM with it last season. I agree with like 90 percent of your matchup spreadsheet but I struggle with some that you put in "medium" and I have an easier time against some of the ones you put in "hard".
Can’t help but notice at 12:12 there is a [PARTY] tag on a ping. Can you verify the rank of the person you are duoing with? Because this winstreak you are demonstrating also stops immediately after duo queuing is no longer allowed, and if they are a challenger jungler this winstreak is basically a boosted account regardless of your strategy.
It's a bug. Sometimes you can see other parties pings for whatever reason. I checked his opgg to be sure and he wasnt duoing. Just realised the ping is also from the enemy katarina because hes watching replay lol
Hey hi dude, its me again haha I had 12 games with middlesticks since i saw this video, im 75% winrate, and i have a couple questions. It was not in ranked matches, i dont play rankeds jet but the elo was around emerald-diamond. I destroyed every assassin/melee i had in line, but like, insanely hard haha like killing them 4 or 5 times and being like 30 cs ahead. But i struggle A LOT with the bad matchups (azir, hwei, xerath), i just cant do anything, i cant farm because the bassic of fiddle is by far one of the worse in the game, i cant fight them because of range or they just out-damage me, i cant push and roam because i cant use my w they just poke me or cc me. There is something i can do to deal with it ? i just play safe and wait my team to carry ? i feel pretty useless haha I would love if you could post a video about getting countered hard with fidddle. Anyways thank you a lot, im enjoying it so much, and im getting quite good at it haha im sure im the only dude in LAS playing it HAHAHA and im also learning to do the combos like R-W-F or R-E to extend the fear, i did it a couple times and its devastating, its incredible how this champ can easily 3v1 with good positioning and map reading, its awesome and i love this playstyle.
they are very hard to play yeah you can usually punish them really pre-6 but after that it becomes impossible, so I might just buy a pinkward and run straight bot and ignore midlane if my ult is up
hmmm rarely tbh, usually they just say report fiddle and dodge but it did happen a few times especially on my silver/gold smurf and 4-5 times in challenger elo too sadly
yeah less roaming slightly different runes for example, you can check out @PlayCabex youtube channel he does a lot of fiddle toplane content and has a spreadsheet as well
kinda baitclick title but whole content is very appropriate. nice work, perfect tutorial for fiddle begginers. as fiddle otp i can say that new open map is terrible as a jungler, but might be not a deal for lanes. gl
Hello mate nice video, I play Anivia on EUW & got to high Master a few days ago but I really struggle vs good players (Master/GM) onlong range champions (Hwei Viktor Ahri Xerath Neeko), they just poke and poke and you can't play. How do you play vs these champions/players in high elo? Take care mate all the best
correct me if i'm wrong, but from what i observed, your mmr is shared between your accounts, like on my main account i got masters for the first time and it took me literally over 100 games and then on a "fresh" (no rankeds) account it took me only about 50 to have that mmr while having relatively terrible WR
@@thatguy5233 it is all about maths and riot's mmr algorithm. on fresh acc u win 10 games to 0 loses - wow you are amazing player with 100% winrate, but once u lose a single game u wont be 100% never again. winning 50 games in a row if u have 500 games on an account isnt a big deal, but going 50-0 on fresh acc u are like a god (for algorithm) thats why many of old pro players had like 20 accounts before they reached high elo. like author said, there is no diff between low master or platinum.
@@thomasanderson3432 that'd make sense if it worked that way, but what i'm saying is i had worse WR, yet i was playing with diamonds really fast. i wanted to test some champs in low mmr so i had bad WR (like 50?), played only like 15 games and it's diamonds wtf. and yes, it was MY account, i didn't buy it anywhere so i know it had no rankeds played. in normals i had like bronze players lol
More like "i played 16 games". Its fucken anoying how people "proof" smth by posting winstreak smurfs. Like c'mon, show me at list 100 games opt midlstick result, then we can speak
@@karthusslesticks jesus.... dude, u in your own video spoke about this split changes and why u dont played fidl, and now u backup build with prev season data? In season i was dimond with top ap trynd, so does it mean it mean it's good in 14.6?
@@ЮрийКривошея I could easily get grandmaster+ if I start actively playing again and there has been a korean guy who reached challenger with fiddle mid this season so obviously its still viable? All that changed is the items which are now even better for fiddle mid and the way you play around midlane in mid-late game
You can still carry games even if your teammates are bad, you need to ping a lot whenever an objective is about to spawn, communication is key (or you can also use your teammates as bait and wait for them to get collapsed on then ult)
Damn this video hits perfectly with the new fiddle skin i got haha damn, youtube may be spying me or something. Also i wasnt really suree about practicing fiddle mid (i main mid and adc) but now i really want to haha
@@karthusslesticks 16 games is not what I think of when someone "reaches master" you were already masters at that point. its like being diamond 1 0 lp gaining 15 lp a win, winning 6 games in a row, and then 3 more back when promos best of 5 existed and then saying you reached masters with a 100% winrate because you won 9 games in a row from diamond 1 to master I was expecting something greater. by definition you didn't lie. but if someone bragged about 100% winrate to masters and it was the example above where they started counting from d1, it'd be lame as shit
@@karthusslesticks i liked the vid though, will probably bring out fiddle mid at some point. Used to be my second main but I stopped playing it after the rework
I got some information too for you buddy, 93 percent of people who play lol at low elo play because they wanna have fun they dont analyze just to win. Fine.... But..... Keep it for yoself
@@karthusslesticks Of course pdf fiddle abuser can't even admit his champion is cancer broken.. Not even surprised, going on fresh for high lp gains, and often gets carried in terms of dmg while abusing AoE Pdf champ lol.
@@karthusslesticks I'm literally 700 lp euw and 85% winr master 300 lp on secondary role so ye must be bad when i play 2 of the hardest champs in the game while u abuse braindead cc bot that oneshots aoe delusional dog
Mindset part is huge. People seem to crumble and freak out so easily in league. Been like that since the start.
It's a punishing game like no other
94% is insane congrats
thanks :D
I came to diamond with fiddle mid after not playing for a year. (Rank before was gold). I can see we have similar ideas and thought process. I think you almost perfected the fiddle mid technique
The vid was so useful, I've read the spreadsheet's content and I love these kind of in depth guides. I'm a yorick main what made me into yorick even further because of the in depth matchup spreadsheets (thanks slogdog).
What I suggest is instead of champion names, have their icon instead. Also some parts are hard to read because it's lightgreen and the text color is white without an outline.
But the content is very very useful, informative and well done. I will main this for sure!
slogdog is the goat hahha
i can try putting their icon instead but i wanted to do their names so you can search the matchup with control + f yk
Ive been playing midsticks since the old days and just recently coming back after many years from taking a break, middlesticks is very good, ahri tends to be the only hard counter on fiddle.
ahri is okay matchup imo
for me anivia and azir are way worse
@@karthusslesticks oh yeah and anivia too really hard to pull off full combo with that range stun and 2nd life
@@willothewisp91 yeah shes horrible but no one plays her luckily
Ahri is perma banned now from how annoying she is to play against
wasn't feeling fiddlesticks lately but then i tried your build and got 10/0/8 on the first game, 18 KDA! Thanks for giving me hope again playing my favourite champion!
Used to be my main pick from season 4 onwards, had around 80% winrate and back then it was unbeatable on mid, glad to see it still being viable!
I climbed Challenger (S12) using Fiddlesticks mid only, and i myself can confirm that these tips are useful.
Interesting video. I gave up on Fiddlesticks(jungle) this season, but I might have to try this.
But where can I download 5cs/min hack?
LMAO real chads go 3cs/min
give it a try i think mid is way more fun than jungle but i guess its just personal preference
imo middlesticks might be stronger than junglesticks in the current meta
Great, great video sir. I will try learning this champ. Also subscribed.
abi naptın fiddle ne 😳
@@Slimeslimeoglu 😎
Excellent work, in theory, most heroes can reach good rates if you play on positions they do well(their non-primary position) right?
l am saying, what if l someone masters enchanter top-mid-adc(not AD damage)? Like Soraka or Lulu?
Or, it solely depends the amount of lethality (not the actual stat) of champ's kit?
Fiddlesticks for example, can be pretty lethal, that also means high impact and/or player agency?
While enchanters have low impact or depends solely on their teammates to perform or impact well?
Yes I would say that you would have a way harder time climbing as enchanter solo lane because you dont deal a lot of damage so it makes you dependent on your teammates
If you play Rengar Top or Samira Top for example you have way more damage in your kit therefore way more agency and can carry games by yourself
@@karthusslesticks So you need damage. Reminds me of Ana from Overwatch. The perfect support for me. Can deal damage to Squishy targets and kill them but also output healing to allies. Obviously, her grenade which disables enemy healing makes her even more powerful.
Do you think Senna is similar to Ana? Or if there is a hero that can heal but also damage (not high damage but at least highest out of its category of support)
l just love enchanters/healers
You're probably looking at seraphine or sona, although idk how their dmg will be after recent changes. Otherwise if you wanna still deal dmg while having some ability to heal (but not being enchanter / actual healer) you can try senna or nilah. They deal dmg while doing some healing to teammates. @@deadspace4755
@@deadspace4755 senna or seraphine kinda fit that yeah
@@yuutsu7201 Senna for sure, she has a global ulti like Soraka(but different). And can stack throughout the game, so if you stay alive and farm, you can become strong.
You don't ward their wraiths at 1.15 which would tell you where their jungler is at
No I dont because i usually crash 2nd/3rd wave then i can ward their raptors + in higher elos their mid or supp will cover the raptors and chunk me which I dont wanna risk + your effigies can get destroyed super easily at raptor camp
16:14 ult and buffer your E? W-flash? I didn't know either of these mechanics were possible
yes you can buffer all of your abilities to extend the fear right after you ult
I've one-tricked Fiddle mid since season 1 and hit GM with it last season. I agree with like 90 percent of your matchup spreadsheet but I struggle with some that you put in "medium" and I have an easier time against some of the ones you put in "hard".
Any guidance on vs Sion mid?
Can’t help but notice at 12:12 there is a [PARTY] tag on a ping. Can you verify the rank of the person you are duoing with? Because this winstreak you are demonstrating also stops immediately after duo queuing is no longer allowed, and if they are a challenger jungler this winstreak is basically a boosted account regardless of your strategy.
It's a bug. Sometimes you can see other parties pings for whatever reason. I checked his opgg to be sure and he wasnt duoing.
Just realised the ping is also from the enemy katarina because hes watching replay lol
i played solo the entire time, the reason it says party is because i turned my chat to party only so i cant see what my teammates write
@@karthusslesticks ok awesome, just checking
Omg, it's the legendary Middlesticks
94% winrate in MASTER elo huge respect, Fidlesticks how i know had low tier list in high elo cuz most enemy players understand how play VS
Hey hi dude, its me again haha
I had 12 games with middlesticks since i saw this video, im 75% winrate, and i have a couple questions.
It was not in ranked matches, i dont play rankeds jet but the elo was around emerald-diamond.
I destroyed every assassin/melee i had in line, but like, insanely hard haha like killing them 4 or 5 times and being like 30 cs ahead. But i struggle A LOT with the bad matchups (azir, hwei, xerath), i just cant do anything, i cant farm because the bassic of fiddle is by far one of the worse in the game, i cant fight them because of range or they just out-damage me, i cant push and roam because i cant use my w they just poke me or cc me. There is something i can do to deal with it ? i just play safe and wait my team to carry ? i feel pretty useless haha I would love if you could post a video about getting countered hard with fidddle.
Anyways thank you a lot, im enjoying it so much, and im getting quite good at it haha im sure im the only dude in LAS playing it HAHAHA and im also learning to do the combos like R-W-F or R-E to extend the fear, i did it a couple times and its devastating, its incredible how this champ can easily 3v1 with good positioning and map reading, its awesome and i love this playstyle.
they are very hard to play yeah you can usually punish them really pre-6 but after that it becomes impossible, so I might just buy a pinkward and run straight bot and ignore midlane if my ult is up
Thank you for your research
do ppl not troll your draft after seeing your pick? happens often to me often
hmmm rarely tbh, usually they just say report fiddle and dodge
but it did happen a few times especially on my silver/gold smurf and 4-5 times in challenger elo too sadly
That is mad impressive. Congratulations.
Would you make some adjustments for toplane? I want to try this
yeah less roaming slightly different runes for example, you can check out @PlayCabex youtube channel he does a lot of fiddle toplane content and has a spreadsheet as well
yall made this all up
kinda baitclick title but whole content is very appropriate. nice work, perfect tutorial for fiddle begginers.
as fiddle otp i can say that new open map is terrible as a jungler, but might be not a deal for lanes. gl
Congrats bro, crazy stats. 👍
Okay imma try this . I was a fiddle jungle one trick last season and this season I gave up Cus I wasn’t having fun and started playing other lanes
U gave up the season they opened the map?
fiddle jungle new season/new map is a big nerf....
Hello mate nice video, I play Anivia on EUW & got to high Master a few days ago but I really struggle vs good players (Master/GM) onlong range champions (Hwei Viktor Ahri Xerath Neeko), they just poke and poke and you can't play. How do you play vs these champions/players in high elo? Take care mate all the best
how did you get master in 16 games? I've won 20 in a row on a fresh smurf and only gotten to like plat 1 (before emerald added)
the account was master last season and decayed to plat so i was already starting in emerald 1
correct me if i'm wrong, but from what i observed, your mmr is shared between your accounts, like on my main account i got masters for the first time and it took me literally over 100 games and then on a "fresh" (no rankeds) account it took me only about 50 to have that mmr while having relatively terrible WR
@@thatguy5233 it is all about maths and riot's mmr algorithm.
on fresh acc u win 10 games to 0 loses - wow you are amazing player with 100% winrate, but once u lose a single game u wont be 100% never again. winning 50 games in a row if u have 500 games on an account isnt a big deal, but going 50-0 on fresh acc u are like a god (for algorithm) thats why many of old pro players had like 20 accounts before they reached high elo.
like author said, there is no diff between low master or platinum.
@@thatguy5233it is not shared
@@thomasanderson3432 that'd make sense if it worked that way, but what i'm saying is i had worse WR, yet i was playing with diamonds really fast. i wanted to test some champs in low mmr so i had bad WR (like 50?), played only like 15 games and it's diamonds wtf. and yes, it was MY account, i didn't buy it anywhere so i know it had no rankeds played. in normals i had like bronze players lol
The mindset part is the most important btw
hard agree climbing is like 90% mindset
"How I reached Master with a 94% Winrate Playing Fiddlesticks Mid"
" i played on EUW servers "
" THANKS EVERYONE FOR WATCHING "
More like "i played 16 games". Its fucken anoying how people "proof" smth by posting winstreak smurfs. Like c'mon, show me at list 100 games opt midlstick result, then we can speak
whats the difference? also u mean eune*
@@ЮрийКривошея i was 900lp+ with middlesticks last season on euw with like 200-300 games
@@karthusslesticks jesus.... dude, u in your own video spoke about this split changes and why u dont played fidl, and now u backup build with prev season data? In season i was dimond with top ap trynd, so does it mean it mean it's good in 14.6?
@@ЮрийКривошея I could easily get grandmaster+ if I start actively playing again and there has been a korean guy who reached challenger with fiddle mid this season so obviously its still viable?
All that changed is the items which are now even better for fiddle mid and the way you play around midlane in mid-late game
Also, how do you reckon you counter this playstyle? I struggle a lot vs perma roam champs like Sylas Katarina Ahri etc.
Wards in the river, pings to your teammates, and champs that have fast waveclear to collect plate money whenever they are sacking waves.
@@HEEHHOOHalright thanks mate
@@HEEHHOOHalright thanks mate
Video needs more views 🙏
appreciate it 🤝
how is this possible with 18 games? thats not enough lp
i always played fiddle mid since 2016 but damn always hardstuck diamond
maybe review your own games and look at your deaths, try to find what lead up to it and think what you could do to prevent it next time
It’s awesome!! But it is also impossible without teammates
You can still carry games even if your teammates are bad, you need to ping a lot whenever an objective is about to spawn, communication is key
(or you can also use your teammates as bait and wait for them to get collapsed on then ult)
Why mid instead of jg? Jg is the most influential role in the game since always.
isn't top more op tho?
Surprised that you don't use the rocketbelt.
Not a big fan of the new protobelt, imo the core of malginance + liandry is too important but I can see why the dash would be nice to have
Damn this video hits perfectly with the new fiddle skin i got haha damn, youtube may be spying me or something. Also i wasnt really suree about practicing fiddle mid (i main mid and adc) but now i really want to haha
try it out its really fun
@@karthusslesticks I did a match and i stomped really hard hahaha against a Zed. Your guides helps me a lot, thank you !
@@kadarr7953 glad to hear keep it up
Bro thats so op i hope i can climb out of silver
good luck try it out!
send help i can't last hit on this champion 💀💀
well lets just say theres a reason i average 4cs/min on fiddle mid 💀💀💀💀
Start from iron and climb. I want to see how you handle low elo hell please
i could but im not a big fan of buying iron accs to ruin the games there tbh
When he said EUNE I laughed and closed the video
lowelo 😐
@@karthusslesticks I'm emerald on euw 😡 im basically twice your elo!
@@kardrasa ur right my bad king 😲
@@karthusslesticks I'm dimond now. Lets go!
Middlesticks
I thought this was a happychimenoises video
NA region being NA, pure comedy
its not even na 🤡
good guide, hwei is a male btw
i keep forgetting 💀
Can i just say... Middle Fiddle
no offense but i swear to god fiddlesticks is probably the most broken elo inflated champion in this entire game
real
COOL
Why arie over comment or electrocute
elo decay also affects ur mmr, so it wasn't d2 elo u were playing in plat elo, if that's where ur acc ended that prior season.
nope it doesnt affect ur mmr and i was starting in d2 games you can look it up on opgg
i have !!!!!! 16W to 2L it 89% WR !!!! ADC MAIN PLAYER (sadly this wr in aram 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡)
man its only 16 games..... clickbaited
? how is it clickbait all of it is true i had a 94% winrate and i reached master
@@karthusslesticks 16 games is not what I think of when someone "reaches master"
you were already masters at that point.
its like being diamond 1 0 lp gaining 15 lp a win, winning 6 games in a row, and then 3 more back when promos best of 5 existed and then saying you reached masters with a 100% winrate because you won 9 games in a row from diamond 1 to master
I was expecting something greater.
by definition you didn't lie. but if someone bragged about 100% winrate to masters
and it was the example above where they started counting from d1, it'd be lame as shit
@@karthusslesticks i liked the vid though, will probably bring out fiddle mid at some point. Used to be my second main but I stopped playing it after the rework
@@mysticflow467 good to hear! i will release another video soon on my euw main account where i got over 100 games with him so stay tuned for that
@@karthusslesticksXD
everything looked good until i saw eune xd
yes really matters when i was high elo on euw 🤡
@@karthusslesticks never seen u in the ladder bro xd
bro wp but you played 20 games XD
those are rookie numbers
Not impressed with 16 games tbh
I got some information too for you buddy, 93 percent of people who play lol at low elo play because they wanna have fun they dont analyze just to win. Fine.... But..... Keep it for yoself
I'd 1v1 you so easily lol, you're free lp.
sure 🤠🤠
clown
nah the difference between eune and euw is huge my friend had 300 lp masters eune and on euw he cant even get D1 since 6 months
Cringe broken champ for subhumans
cope and seethe 🤡🤡
@@karthusslesticks Of course pdf fiddle abuser can't even admit his champion is cancer broken.. Not even surprised, going on fresh for high lp gains, and often gets carried in terms of dmg while abusing AoE Pdf champ lol.
@@GodKingIssei mad cuz bad
@@karthusslesticks I'm literally 700 lp euw and 85% winr master 300 lp on secondary role so ye must be bad when i play 2 of the hardest champs in the game while u abuse braindead cc bot that oneshots aoe delusional dog