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Dude, your reviews are something else, I hope you keep uploading. You delve into the user experience which is a very hard thing to do or explain on a video. These are all present from your previous videos as well. I really wish you keep uploading and maintaining that or at least touching on the topic. I did a i5 4590 16gb 1600mhz rx 550 4gb build and was surprised to see how it performed at 1080p (makes me question my build) which is a ryzen 5 5600x rtx 3070 32gb 3200mhz I did that build for my brother the i5 one, thing is no one will know the user experience side. and to me it felt a slight difference and it ddnt bother me at all, sure some graphic settings were lowered down but user experience wise, it was good. I had no complaints.
Apex is an Nvidia title, that means that they don't worry about and cards anymore than basics. Check out any Russian free to play game and you get the same thing or worse. I've had to roll back driver's for weeks until game updates fixed the problems.
@@RATechYT Let me help you with your Radeon GPU, the best option to you enable is "Radeon™ Enhanced Sync" and "Radeon™ Anti-Lag". Just enable this two options and everything will be Ok
you can install the driver without wattman... so its just the same. and the options in wattman for the fan curve are just bad. higher min rpm then other apps, only 5 point to move and need to have a gap of 5°c... and then the reset thing.. good that there is a solution, but man... you have to figure it out first why it happenes.. it annoyed me a lot till i found the fix.
I like how I bought my AMD card almost 7 years ago and it still works, plays every new AAA title and gets more fps and open source support every adrenaline update.
I switched from a gtx 970 to a rx6750 xt and have very little to complain about. Performance has been stellar and I won't be upgrading for a long while. The few problems I did have was with drivers uninstalling themselves due to windows update for some reason. I turned that off and now it's been flawless.
me and my wife have the same driver issue gamepass is retarded and it force installs drivers per game thanks to goofiness from microsoft it can replace your driver with a 3 month old version or if you are on a laptop it only gets gpu driver for the integrated gpu its SO obnoxious and i cancelled gamepass this month over it for humble choice
I used to have Nvidia, went for a 6800xt due to it being a bit cheaper than the 3080. I ve had mine for about 5 months now and I m really happy with it
Same here! Still in love with my Red Devil. It consistently beats the 3080 at 2k too! DLSS is nice but I like the fact that the 6800XT doesn't require it to compete.
I went from GTX 1060 6GB PC to RTX 3070 PC (I still have both BTW) 2 years ago and works gr8. But i'm still amazed on how good the GTX 1060 still running games. The GTX 1060 can even run games 2k and 4k 60fps.
The problems with crashes that you mentioned referring to the most current drivers, happen due to a Windows function that tries to interfere with the power control of the GPU in some circumstances, the name of this function is Windows MPO, when deactivated everything works perfectly without crashes, I used it for almost 2 months the 22.11.2 without any problem, and the same with the 23.2.1 ua-cam.com/video/NPE-GUEgKvw/v-deo.html
Windows is utter garbage when it comes to GPU drivers, on both sides. Ive had my W10 and 11 install always try to install junk drivers even though i have the driver install function disabled. Ive also turned off hibernation and it fixes SO many issues. Don't forget that a shut down isn't a shut down anymore, its a soft shutdown. And btw always unplug your ethernet when installing AMD drivers, saves from windows f ing it up.
I switched from a 1060 3gb --> rx 6800 and let me tell you I do not look back. The adrenaline software is awesome for over clocking and I love the ui! Never had a problem with performance and I love playing single player games in 4K on my 55inch tv. It is truly been worth the money!
@@Dan-kz9xu I had a Rx 570 4gb and a 500w power when I connected my Rx 6800 to it, my build still worked however I believe when I pushed the card I had crashes and when I upgraded to 700 w power supply it was gone , 6800 is soo efficient you can get away with 600w PSU or even 500w silver or gold
I have been using AMD gpu's for the past 10 years and they were good for my needs but to be honest Nvidia's support for the content creation tools like 3d modeling, texturing , rendering even video encoding is by far superior to what AMD has.
That's because Nvidia made it that way and Intel helped them out along the way. With amd shooting itself in the foot when it really couldn't afford to.
Far superior? Which card and which software. I used premiere in both AMD and Nvidia cards and I'm not seen superiority at all or stability they both crash a lot because of Adobe not the Card. It depends on which card and which software people use for creating content. The blanket statement comes decades ago when CUDA was more mature or the only game in town than OpenCl
I swapped over to all AMD including the GPU's. In a nutshell they were available over Nvidia at that time and Light years cheaper. Never had any issues at all with games. I have even picked up and used the 6600XT and 6650XT and used them in systems I later sold. The 6700 and 6750XT give a huge boost over the 6600's and I am currently running the 6800XT in my gaming rig.
Try AMD with pro drivers, improves the experience, but to make it fair use Nvidia with studio drivers. Those drivers fix a lot of issues on both platforms when it comes to productivity. Gaming drivers are not the only ones that exist
I switched from Nvidia to AMD back with a GTX 460 to an HD 5770. Nvidia's drivers just had too many problems with games I played and AMD's drivers just worked without any issues. When I built my new system back in 2020, I got a Red Devil 5700XT and it's been a gem.
@@davidmacfarlane4761 did you even read the part about "building a new system"? That's not upgrading. Upgrading would be replacing one part with a newer one in the same system. Glasses and contact lenses are thing these days, as is eye surgery.
@@ReaperX7 I see where you're coming from, but I also frequently see entire system replacements also referred to as an "upgrade" (albeit a more comprehensive one) by those who perform them. Semantics aside, I was just making the observation that the newer card (in your newer system) coincidentally has a similar sounding name to your older one from your previous system despite actually being many generations apart.
@@davidmacfarlane4761 well it was 2080 level performance at half the cost without unnecessary features I would never use... So... It made more sense. Plus one game I play religiously still has a nasty issue with Nvidia drivers even after 7 years. 😐
The argument against AMD's GPU that their drivers are bad and cause black screens, crashes, etc is nothing but a myth. I used to think the same too when my brand new pc got no signal issues and had random crashes . Then I decided to dig into the problem, read hundreds of forums, and kept tinkering with my PC. Turns out, enabling xmp was the issue. Ever since I ran the stock frequency (2666mhz) from 3200mhz, I have stopped having any problems. My point is, stop saying AMD drivers are bad every time your pc has crashes, bsod or black screen. It's more likely to be the PSU, ram, mb, cpu, Overclocking, bios or wiring problem.
I've had a 5700 XT since it launched in July 2019. And no, the driver problems were not a myth. The card was a complete disaster on launch, and was borderline unusable for the first 2 months. Black screens, BSOD's, screen flickering etc. etc. Had them all. It wasn't until 2 months later when the 19.9.3 drivers released that the card was finally mostly stable. But I will say at this point that the card is 100% rock solid. I often don't reboot my machine unless there's a Windows update that forces me, and I can have month long up times with heavy usage and won't have a problem. So, yeah, AMD drivers can be pretty awful, but they do usually sort all of the problems out, it's just that their comparatively smaller driver team takes a bit longer than it might on the nVidia side. All that being said, I have used Radeon GPU's exclusively for 13 years, and will continue to do so, as it means I don't have to give money to a corporation which I consider the scummiest in the industry (nVidia).
Crashes from xmp sounds like a different issue not related to the gpu. If it were there's no way you'd convince me a gpu is good if it in fact forced me to use jedec speeds on my ram. Not when other gpu's run just great with xmp enabled.
I am a user of both NVIDA and AMD gpus, AMD gpu drivers issues get too much "hype" for some reason. Sure there was a time long ego when they were still called "ATI" and a while after AMD bought them, when their drivers were gabage no question about it, though that has not being the case for years. NVIDIA drivers have as many issues as AMD, and that should be something that never happens since NVIDIA has way deeper pockets than AMD. The main issue AMD drivers have is that they do have more regresions and that they drop support for their GPUs way sooner than NVIDIA.
I got the xfx rx6650xt and i just love the radeon software i didnt have any issues so far and i was even surprised that i could play with ray tracing at all,i played doom eternal at 100fps with rtx and everything on very high 1080p
I had very few issues running 22.11.2 on my rx 6700 XT but they were minor with a screen flicker once in a few days or a quick black screen that instantly recovered. Drivers 23.2.2 just launched so I'll install that and see how it goes. Overall, I've been very happy with radeon cards and enjoy the extra cash in my pocket at the end of the day :)
Started from a gtx 980 ti, to a side grade of a 1080, then recently upgraded to an rx 6800 xt. Couldn't care about RT and only really wanted rasterization performance. I do miss some of the Nvidia features but can't say I used them enough to make me want to go back.
@@raevod6361FSR 2 is almost as good and it doesn’t introduce input lag as much as DLSS does, I have a 3090 and 6950XT in separate rigs and I love them both though
@@raevod6361no need to use dlss fsr unless you buy weaker card, aint there? also 1440p dlss or fsr maybe dlss looks a little bit better, both great though
I made a few videos about this topic chronicling my switch from a then life-long nVidia user over to my first Radeon. My experience was pretty similar to yours; I don't regret the switch at all and will consider both AMD and nVidia options for my next upgrade.
This is agood example of a guy who appreciates his hardware. When all the hype is on the new 13th gen Intel or 7000 Series cpus you rock a gen 2 ryzen still. Thumbs up my friend.
6600xt, great card. I'd even take 6500xt (current) over 1660 Super just based on price, and understanding I'd have to stick to more 1080p than 1440p. And I did! 6700XT, personally, over 3070 for bang for buck (Raytracing blows, DLSS/FSR both blow) not even a hard choice honestly. Once you pick up a 5th gen Ryzen, unless you're going 6850XT or better for rasterized performance on either side of the GPU aisle you'll get identical performance, whether you're using 5500 or 5800X3D. Drivers are so much better now than they used to be, with a few exceptions!
I made the switch to AMD after yrs of being loyal to Nvidia. Only reason being is Nvidias latest drama with customer care and sales tactics. Bought a ASROCK OC Formula 6900XT and I am very happy with it!
I am now rocking a Gigabyte RX 6600XT Eagle and I am happy with it, although I experienced some bad drivers due to overwriting drivers and bad PSU but now it performs amazing by clean installing drivers. Also, I noticed that as AMD later updates gets better and better in terms of performance.
I built a new PC with the i5-13600K and was waiting for a good deal on a 3060,. But a used RX 6600 XT popped up for $150. First Radeon card I've had sense the early 2000s and zero problems beyond one indie game not working.
@@RuruFIN If you haven't already watch a video on how to undervolt on amd and then you could gain even more performance :). It's not worth it though if you don't want to troubleshoot for stability (ie using different games and software like 3dmark for testing stability) but yeah it can give a nice performance boost.
Dealing with driver issues is what keeps me away from AMD. I had tested a 6600xt and a 6700 non-xt. Both had issues even after reinstalling windows and using two different brand new set up (Intel then switched to AMD cpu). I’ve had a 2070 non super and a 3060ti. Zero issues with NVIDIA.
@@ShockingPikachu I got same setup... well not exactly but close RX 6600 + 5700G (it was cheaper than the X version + i was waiting for gpu price drop to buy gpu so i went from 3400G to 5700G and then just added in RX 6600 - $240 new)
I have been using a 6800XT for almost a year and it has been awesome, but I use Linux instead of Windows, so it's pretty much a entirely different experience since the drivers are baked into the kernel.
You forgot to add that AMD and their open approach with software made Radeon cards the go to on Linux and BSD thanks to the MESA project and AMDs implementation of Vulkan and with Proton and DXVK, using Radeon cards for gaming in Linux is a no brainer (not to mention further improvement to GPU-related software) unlike Nvidia, that is a pain to deal with with their subpar drivers,l for users and devs alike
While I've used dozens of Radeon GPUs over the years, I've never had one in my main machine. Snagging a 7900 XTX to replace my 3060 Ti soon and I'm very excited! Great, honest video. AMD makes solid cards
I've been running ATI/AMD GPU's for nearly 25 years, starting with my Rage Fury 128 MB Pro on an overclocked 400 (o.c. 450) MHz AMD processor in my first build. Even then it had people impressed that it could do nearly everything a Voodoo 3 GPU (for those old enough to remember them) could do except use 'Glide'. ATI/AMD cards have always been good to me, and always performed best with AMD processors, so it's not a surprise that after the acquisition they've been working hard on making the CPU and GPU be a matched pair. I've had Intel/Nvidia combos over the years, but they've literally died repeatedly over time due to just normal gaming. But for some reason those AMD's just keep chugging along like the little engine that could. I've been running an 8 core AMD FX processor with an RX 570 for the last six years and it's still running AAA games in 1080 on high settings at 60+ FPS without trying too hard, occasionally a really demanding game comes along and bogs it down with Ultra settings, but there's very little difference between them besides water reflection and shadow details. My latest build is a Ryzen 7 with a 6600 XT, and i can already see the upgrade in speed and quality before I actually install a collection of games on it. I can't wait to see what the frame rates jump to now as games have become more demanding than ever in some respects. I don't have the need to spend literally a mortgage payment, car payment, and insurance on both for a high end graphics card, that's a poor investment for the only person who can see it has to be in a room with me. Give me something under $300 (and God that's still so expensive for them), that let's me play what i like, and isn't hot enough to bake cookies on while playing Fallout or Call of Duty. But hey, I'm just an old guy now. 'Mortal Kombat' for the SNES and Genesis, and 'Goldeneye' on the N64 were literally earth shattering graphics at one point in my lifetime. So what do I know. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
since you are super old amd user, can you elaborate about amd driver isues over years and high temps on their gpus? just dont say you had none :D drivers are amd weak point and temps during my time with amd in 2010 has terible, now new 7000 series suffers like 5000 series, looks like 6000 series are better with temps
5700 XT owner of here for 3+ years. The GPU is rock solid. I'm personally only recommending AMD GPUs for gaming, given they're usually FASTER while being CHEAPER at the same time than equivalently priced Nvidia GPUs.
Regarding the stuttering when opening the game: I think it's related to the CPU (or the PCIe bandwidth since it's on x8) for reading all the data and storing shaders. May be specifically when combining the GPU with an older AMD CPU, no idea. Why do I think this? Well, I have a Ryzen 5 5600 and until a couple months ago I was using a RX 6600 XT. I got a 6700 XT pretty cheap and gave the 6600 XT to a friend as a gift. I never had that stuttering, but he has it when playing Overwatch 2 or World of Warcraft, and he is using a Ryzen 5 2600. In the same games I never had this issue when using the same card. Something is going on there software wise making that combination to perform poorly when saving cache/shaders at the beginning.
It may be architecture difference frankly. Comparing Turing & RDNA1, Turing SMs handle 32 concurrent warps with each warp consisting of 32 threads. RDNA1 CUs handle 16 waves per ALU with each wave being 32 threads. Both have 40,960 threads across the chip with identical memory bandwidth but arrive in different ways. It should also be noted that Navi uses Vector Units while Turing uses Scalar Units. Any number of these differences could cause the issue. Typically, RDNA cards will need to allocate SPs to perform additional functions while Turing/Ampere/Ada is able to perform multiple functions on the same cuda core. I'm guessing, anyway. Don't take my words as proof.
@@The_Man_In_Red But as mentioned before, the only difference between the two computers I used for testing were the PCIe version and the CPU. You know? I'll check with my friend. I know he recently got a Ryzen 5 5600. I'll ask him if it solved the issue.
@@Donivar Yea it's a really interesting observation of behavior. The only thing I can think of why a faster CPU would benefit is that the compilation has a translation step before it's stored on the C:/ but I can't be certain.
Went 1080 ti to 6900 xt about a year and a half ago. Nvidia plug n play experience is hands down way better, took me hours to tweak my settings but gained 12% performance and lowered power draw from 330 to about 250-270 watts. If you don’t mind putting in the extra work AMD cards are generally cheaper and have massive rasterization potential. Have been sucked into Cyberpunk recently and Ultra settings 1440p 90+ FPS makes the game a crazy immersive experience.
Did you remove all the nvidia drivers and things before installing MAD? Nvidia leaves a lot of things on your PC, even though you uninstall the drivers. 😞 I love to undervolt AMD cards because then they run faster because of the TDP headroom. I could run an RX 570 easily at 1,300 MHz and with some work at about 1,340 MHz. The RX 580 could run at about 1,400 MHz. So those cards are really good, especially the Sapphire ones. ;) So AMD is always better, than people think.
@@Theworthsearcher When I got the Card I also bought a new CPU cooler and more ram and did a full cleaning and rebuild. During the rebuild I decided to completely refresh the system with a fresh install of windows. Over the years you end up with registry errors, old drivers, and old unused files, figured if I was going through all this trouble might as well start fresh.
90 fps seems a very low for a 6900xt on Cyberpunk at 1440p unless you meant ultrawide 1440p?. What cpu are you using as my 7600x and 6900xt get well above 100 fps at all times when not using digital foundry optimized settings (I use them so I can use ray tracing).
@@WyattOShea it depends what part of the game you are roaming around, if you are on Jig Jig street Ill dip down into the 60s, if I am away from the city center its jumps up into the 120+ area, I am using an 11700k currently.
@@RegazozoGaming Fair enough man. I have 100% the game and it's uninstalled now so I can't do a direct comparison to yours though but yeah my performance was around 100-130 ish in almost all areas of the game when not using rt but I did use rt for my entire playthrough.
My last AMD card was a Vega 56. I honestly had constant small issues for the whole 3 years I owned it. Now I did have it watercooled, and it was an absolute beast with water. Never broke 50c on a full load. My last Nvidia card was a PNY 9800gts and it barely lasted 6 months. I have been on AMD since the 4850. Last year I moved up to a 3070. I haven't had a more stable system in years.
Have both a 3080 and a 6800xt that I've used for the past ~2 years or so now. In that time I have to say that AMD has been more stable when it comes to drivers. With my 3080 I've had issues with so many drivers, black screens, flickering, broken textures in games, crashes, etc. With AMD I've only had issues with one driver to the point of using DDU (used it countless times for my 3080), and I also had a few drivers that didn't play nice with my a bit "too optimistic" OC. Should also say that before the 3080 I also had a 970 and a 2070s that worked well, before that I was mostly playing on consoles for 10 years, I left PC gaming when my 9700 Pro from ATI got too slow for gaming. My experience with the 3080 is actually the worst in terms of drivers I had with any GPU, but that could be something in my specific system that doesn't play nice with Nvidia but is just fine with AMD.
my experience with rx 6000 is great in gaming, but productivity wise... lets say that in arnold renderer for 3ds max, it doesnt even appear as a rendering device option.
I think encoding quality difference is very overstated, If you are just recording videos then you won't see any difference in Video quality because the difference is mainly at low bit rates on H264 which is only relevant to streaming. And I doubt you'll see much difference in RT performance between your 2070 and 6600xt. As the RT performance on both is pretty poor in general.
I really enjoyed my RX 6600XT it even overclocked well. The AMD software is nice with good overclocking and monitoring features. I switched to a RTX 3070 but only because I got it for a great deal. Otherwise I planned on waiting for the 7600XT later this year. And still may switch back if it beats the 3070.
Well considering a 6800xt absolutely crushes a 3070 w/o even trying I’m sure the 7600xt will destroy it also you can have a 6800xt for the same price as a 3070 which out rasterizes the 3080 in many cases you shouldn’t have any problem making that decision.
Switched from a 1080Ti to a 7900xtx xfx merc 310 black... looking at the size of the xfx u could say it was a "big" upgrade. I have no issues with it , the Games run smooth , no crashes, no heat etc. im happy with it !
I'm in the same boat. I went from a GTX 560, to a GTX 970, a GTX 1660 Super. Decided to get myself an RX 6600 because it was very cheap on sale. Overall, the performance is great with a Ryzen 5 5600. I did notice stuttering in some games, Warhammer Vermintide 2 being one. Funny because it runs smoother on my older secondary machine with a GTX 1060 3GB and i7-3770K @4.5GHz and 16GB of DDR3-2400. And Wolfenstein: The New Order runs sub-60 fps even though I played the game all the way through with a GTX 680 2GB and an i5-2400 with 8GB of RAM and the framerate was pretty stable. It actually runs about the same with an RX 460 as it does with an RX 6600, and dropping resolution has little to no effect. There are a couple other games I noticed aren't very smooth, but I can't recall them of the top of my head.
@@Bloodin28 I agree with the other commenter. Have you used DDU in safe mode to remove old nvidia drivers then booted back into normal mode and installed the amd drivers that way?. If not then the issues you have could be because of old driver conflicts.
thats probably the only reason why i dont want to have amd gpu, because of amd have bad support of old api, and that was the main reason why i switched to nvidia. because i often playing old games like x360-ps3 era and amd gpu have a lot of stuttering/low fps problem in old titles. i also remember playing gta sa on my 6600 xt and when i was driving into the fields with a lot of grass my fps was dropping to 30-40.. nice.. in 2005 game.. meanwhile mine 3060 ti staying all the time above 100 fps in the same situation, and thats the only what first come in my mind, theres a lot of the others amd "surprises" to remember.
I made my own move to AMD because the 6900XT was cheaper than 3080Ti here and I honestly prefer AMD ReLive a lot more than Nvidia's software. Honestly, Nvidia software sucks and I hate using it. I will avoid Nvidia products in the future, especially now that Intel is also starting to compete.
I switch from Nvidia in Dec 2022 with a RX6700XT and was so impressed with that card and software that I bought a XFX RX6800XT today for my sim racing rig. AMD has come a long way ;-)
i bought the stigmatized 6500xt for my fresh build and expected to be let down, but i was actually surprised with how well it ran everything i could want, despite all the ways they cut costs with this gpu they still managed to make it a budget king in the middle of a tech supply crisis
@@UTFapollomarine7409It's not that the gpu isn't good, it's that it's not worth the price when there's cheaper more powerful GPUs already out on the market. Like, there's barely any improvement despite being a new gen over the 5500 xt
It's stigmatized because it's only 1% faster than an rx 5500 xt for nearly $50 more, not even joking. And the RX 5500 XT also shipped out with 8GB variants, at a cheaper price.
I had a Vega 64 first which I experienced black screens etc which was bad for an "out of box" experience. I then had a 5700xt which was a great card! Not flawless but out of box was good. I then went to an RTX 3060 12GB and I didn't like that I had to create an account just to use the geforce software like you had mentioned, but I also wasn't WOW'd with it's performance. It was a performance regression which I learned later is true, which I'm shocked about. Now I have a 6800xt which is the most stable AMD experience I've had since the start, very pleased with at the 1440p resolution; my mind is also at ease with the 16gb Vram headroom with new title releases 😎
If a game requires building shaders, you will be forced to wait if you 1.) changed the graphics card 2.)update the graphics drivers. Usually there is a setting to stop pre caching on initial load but you will get shuttering if shaders are not completely compiled. This is your issue with APEX when you changed your graphics card and the game had to dump the old cache
6900XT owner here, upgraded from a Titan X. The new Radeon card is rediculously fast, but the coil whine is very noticable. My Titan was VERY silent coilwhine wise except for the jet engine blower fan. I also have flickering in chrome with adaptive sync turned on.
Coil whine can be reduced by getting a better or different PSU. For myself, I changed from a 750W bronze to a 850W gold PSU and the whine disappeared on my 6900XT.
Coil whine to some degree is on all GPU's and is an issue present in both Nvidia and AMD GPU's, all depends on what board partner you choose, higher end partners are less likely to run into noticeable coil whine.
I have had AMD GPU's for about 4 years now. Personally i've seen a noticeable improvement in driver stability, my old R9 270X had way more issues with stability than my current RX 6700XT, with which the video flickering issue was the only thing that i encountered and was easily fixable by disabling MPO (it's literally just a single string in Registry Editor). I did originally intended to go with a 3060, but for the same price got a GPU that is more comparable to a 3070, so i just couldn't say no. It runs great, no crashes as others complain about them, at least ones that are the result of the GPU, so no driver timeouting. Runs cool, about 60-63 degrees full load and pretty quiet too, it's an XFX SWFT 309 version of the card. There is a bit of coil whine though, but it is considered normal, you will find plenty of videos of people having this issue on both sides of the platform, so no biggie here.
I have an rx 580 going on 5 years. Just recently switched to a rx 6750xt definitely satisfied. I don't hate nvidia (had a 1050ti before the rx 580) I just prefer amd. I feel my 580 will continue to be useful in a secondary machine for years
nVidia lost my business when (1) They started requiring an ACCOUNT to use GeForce Experience... and (2) They NEVER paid me my $30 settlement for the 3.5gb -vs- 4gb RAM scandal.
I really wanted to go AMD GPU for the first time and utilize smart access memory in my all AMD build - and I tried. The XTX just was not delivering 4k performance, 2 weeks after release. Using the Cyberpunk 2077 benchmark utility - I'm not kidding - it was neck and neck with my 1080ti IN 4K!! On top of that, Adrenalin(AMDs software) was giving all kinds of glitches/bugs and simply options that did not work as intended. It was honestly a terrible experience. I returned my card in fear of mass RMAing and I bought an Nvidia GPU. My fault for early adopting, I should have just waited... At the same time, when the card is advertised as 8k capable, I'm expecting it will handle 4k without issue.
The stuttering is very likely due to AMDs DirectX11 improvements somewhere in last year, and APEX Legends is a DirectX11 title. The way it works has something to do with real-time shader compilation on the first run of DirectX11 games. I am looking to buy a RX 6600XT somewhere during the following year, but I would go for Sapphire or MSI, I have not had a good experience with XFX HD7970. The problem with Radeon comes with pairing it with something like a FX 8350 on Windows 10, you need Ryzen 3rd or 5th Gen to break through single threaded problems. You will be able to notice it in Assassin's Creed Origins if you had a pre-Navi Radeon GPU and say a FX 8350 or Ryzen 5 1600.
After being a Nvidia customer for 20 years I decided (for many reasons) to switch to AMD. I did a lot of research but to say that I wasn't apprehensive would be a lie. In January I purchased a XFX Merc 310 7900 XTX to replace my GTX 1080Ti. I DDUed under Safe Mode, installed the latest drivers and experienced zero issues. I have the fan speed set to 55% max and temps are hovering around 60C for the GPU core and 78C for GPU Junction during game play. I'm able to crank DayZ to extreme settings and I average 190fps on an ultrawide 1440p monitor (3440x1440). AMD's Adrenaline software is packed with features and is slick and modern looking vs. the Nvidia Control Panel which is lack luster and hasn't changed in well over a decade. For anyone apprehensive about making the switch rest assured AMD is a solid GPU choice nowadays.
Hello! So I figured I would share my experience as well. I changed to AMD GPU in October of 2020 (Right before the prices started to soar) and I changed from an nvidia 970 that got replaced by a 1060 3gb to this new pc I built and an RX 5700 XT. The difference here was vast, obviously, and I fell in love. Had a few bad drivers here and there but was easily fixed by reverting to the previous working version, I do stream (very very small time only) and do some recording and videos, and was always able to adjust settings and it looked good. Then November of 2022 it was time for an upgrade, my 5700 xt started showing some signs of age, several things were learned from that original pc build and the 5700 xt went through them all including power issues. With everything going on with nvidia and after watching the RX 7900xt/x get announced, I made the choice to grab an XFX 6950 xt. I do love this card, but it is not all sunshine and roses. Drivers dont always like certain games, specifically fortnite, while not my main game to play, i do enjoy it from time to time and fortnite does not get along with the newest AMD drivers.... However the card is a brute, it powers through everything i throw at it and almost always begs for more. I cant complain about my change of brands, I enjoy AMD (morally and otherwise although no company is perfect), drivers arent horrible, i can stream and play games, I may choose to use software encoding though as it looks a bit better and the 5900x can handle it.
9:14: Nvidia had better encoding*. For recording, AMD uses HEVC. Recorded video quality always was top notch. Streaming on RDNA2-3 using OBS with B-Frames now put's AMD's H.264 video quality pretty much on par, if only slightly bellow.
with what CPU though? Bottleneck calculators say my Ryzen 5500 is well paired with my 6650XT but doesn't have much left over. I've yet to assemble it all so I don't know if there is enough CPU left for OBS.
I know the FX Series of processors are now dead and buried. It would still be cool to see how the 6600XT would do with them, as well as a 2600K, just saying.
I personally liked Radeon Relive better than Shadowplay - I had less issues with it and I got better recording fidelity out of it. In order to get the same fidelity out of my 3070 I would have to record in 4k and max the bitrate which meant I needed to upgrade the hard drive I was recording too to accommodate it. Radeon Relive was superior at 1080p which is what I play at because I play twitch shooters and my monitor is 240 hz. I am running a 3070 right now, but I am leaning towards getting a 6900XT or a 7900XT. Nvidia has always used compression in their graphics cards going as far back as when they purchased Agea Physx (dating myself here), and it was most notable with the GTX 970 3.5gb edition as opposed to the R9 290x in games - AMD looks better, sharper, more vibrant and nvidia looks like it lacks most of that. That is still the case, every once in a while I will pop in an old Rx 590 and see how much better the picture is. Another thing to consider is that with Radeon cards there is less CPU overhead- Nvidia relies heavily on single core performance and AMD has always had gamers in mind so the way they approached this problem was Nvidia piggybacks on better hardware where AMD picks up most of its own slack. These are little nuances you pick up the more you get into it - Ive been buying video cards since the ATi 9250 and the Geforce 2 MX 440 - Ive bought both brands all the way and Nvidia always had gimmicks. They killed Agea Physx for no reason - it was amazing technology at the time and they did nothing with it and its not the first time Nvidias greed has put an end to great things. There used to be a great brand called BFG Tech which had a card called "BFG Tech 7800 GTO OC" and that card was an amazing card from an amazing brand but Nvidia pulled some shady business deal and killed BFG Tech. The most recent brand theyve killed is EVGA - and Im probably the only one who knows it resembles what theyve done to BFG Tech. Ive Still got an EVGA 1080 TI FTW3, and my 3070 is an EVGA as well. I sold my Titan XP Empire Edition because its just a founders, but the FTW3 is a cooler card. Moving forward I will probably try to buy AMD over Nvidia.
Went from 1070 Strix (best gfx ive had i awhile) to a 6750XT Red Devil. And im so happy, and impressed though and through! What a beast! Nvidia wants to gatekeep prices post mining boom, hide performance behind super preiums, 4k etc. Nah, not getting my buisness, hope they get hurt, BADLY! Also, damn ASUS strix cards are ugly today, looks like a toy card for fornite sugar rush kids, what happened with the "military stealthr" design? :/ Happy powercolor had that demon design, badass.
Great video. I went from a 1060 6GB to a 6600xt and I haven't looked back. The 6600xt was the only card I could find in stock at a reasonable price. All the AMD hate is just sour tastes from the past. AMD if you are just gaming, Nividia if you're a content creator.
I had an AMD Vega 56 in my last build. Then i got a gaming laptop with a 2070 in it and just built my 2023 Gaming pc with an I5 3600KF and I ended up going with the 4070ti. I never had any issues out of the amd cards over the years, Just wanted to switch it up this build. If it gets me by 4-5 years ill be happy
"Fine wine" was a driver strategy from 10 years ago and it came to an end about 5 years ago. I know, because I've used AMD for 10 years - R9 280 and a 390 both on GCN
Great choice ! RX6000 are really the best GPU made by AMD ! Very efficient, great performance, easy to use with adrenalin (and easy to underclock/undervolt it to be more efficient !). Honestly I love my little RX6600XT !
Last month I built my first PC with an RX 6650XT but I was hesitant going with AMD because of negative comments about their drivers online. However, on reddit and UA-cam many people reassured me that this is not true and I am glad I listened to them because AMD's cards are a great value in comparison with Nvidia of course if you do not need ray tracing or the other productivity stuff
No-brainer to me, you get a rx 6600xt better than the rtx3060 for lot less money and the rx6700xt much cheaper than the rtx3070 similar performance,and the rx6800xt beats the rtx 3080 for less mony
How did u find the amd colours snd the image quality vs nvidia ? I find that even after turning the full colour gamut for nvidia plus 10 bit it still looks better on amd
Tell that to the 10-20% frame rate increase in some titles, not to mention noticeably more consistent frame times in games like Dying Light 2 & Cyberpunk 2077. I got the 2700X for cheap, and if I could, I'd obviously go for a faster CPU.
Still rocking my RX 5700 XT 3 years later. Although at launch in 2019 the drivers made me heavily regret purchasing the card, now i'm happy i got the gpu and i do not regret it ever since!
I had a GTX1080 which worked flawlessly for 4 years, purchased a 6900XT in December 2022, used DDU to uninstall Nvidia Drivers in preparation and had continual hard crashes generally when gaming, I changed the power leads from the Card to power supply and the hard crashes stopped but then I started having black screens that would recover after 1 - 2 mins, I changed the Display Port cable from the card to the monitor to the best i could find and the black screens (driver crash) kept coming, finally I discovered that if I disabled hardware acceleration in Chrome settings the black screens stopped. The only other issue has been a couple of times when i have turned on the PC the monitor displays a Black & White Test Pattern, the PC appears to be running but i do not get the Post Beep code from the motherboard speaker but a push on the reset button and it starts up normally, I am not sure if this is GPU card related though yet. Other than those few trials and tribulations the card has performed amazingly, mainly playing PUBG at 1440p with higher settings and great frame rates. The only other thing I had to do was tweak the fan setting to make it run cooler.
I think the XFX cards are the best looking ones on the market And a plus is they are one of the cheaper models typically. An RX 6700 XT can be found for under $400 USD used on eBay most days.
I had 2 beasts of Amd cards. A sapphire Vega 56 and a Red Devil 5700 XT. Great when they worked which they did for the most part but I got sick and tired of the random Black screens and the very fact despite years of owning both cards and numerous driver updates, the memory clock would always run at full speed due to the fact I ran dual monitors.
I bought my first Nvidia GPU back around 2002/2003, and used them exclusively until last year, when I decided to buy an RX 6800 XT. The low availability and insanely high price markups on Nvidia GPUs drove me to AMD. I had occasional black screen/reboot issues with the AMD GPU at first, due to a driver issue, but it was fixed shortly thereafter. I haven't had any issues since. I like the software way better than anything Nvidia had offered for the twenty years I used them. Nvidia GPUs aren't immune to driver bugs, neither. Not too many computer hardware items are. I can't say that I'll never buy an Nvidia GPU again, but I can say AMD will have equal weight when deciding going forward.
Before I discuss : please increase the volume of your videos, they are much quieter than other YT videos - so that people don't have to increase their volume. The case with AMD is always about the fair and competitive market. Something that doesn't exist, least not in the West. Crap is being thrown at them at all of their products, but the GPUs suffer the most as GPU loads are quite specific and demand optimization - and Nvidia holds most of the studios. Every single AMD card outperforms it's "rival" at launch as the drivers mature - the 5700XT started at the 2060 Super, it's now at the 2080 Super - first is 400$, second is 750$. As AMD are pushing not only their hardware but their software forward - with the small software team they have. Nvidia has that driver overhead as they are still doing scheduling on the CPU - AMD moved it on the GPU since they released GCN (HD 7700 and up), 10 years ago. It's going to be really funny when Nvidia has to finally rework their entire driver. Oh, and the fine wine meme was made by the AMD community, not by AMD themselves. Now going forward there's things to note - SAM, PCIe 4.0, DX9, 10 and 11 games run over Vulkan - DXVK, and modded drivers. Oh, and undervolting and Linux... SAM and PCIe 4.0 basically go together in your case - if I recall correctly you have B350 from MSI - you can check for BIOS updates and their release notes, as in late 2021/early 2022 board partners started releasing BIOSes supporting Ryzen 5000, PCIe 4.0 and SAM. Now SAM doesn't need PCIe 4.0 to run - the requirements for the ability to read the entire video memory is PCIe 3.0, and as a matter of fact with modded drivers you can have SAM on the GCN cards from 10 years ago. The thing is the BIOSes for older boards should have all the stuff in one update, so you get that one - now one does need PCIe 4.0 for the 6600/XT (Navi 23 has a x8 interface, and when ran at 3.0 spec it does bottleneck a bit). As you go forward be on the lookout for Matisse/Vermeer Ryzens - just don't buy any of the APU based Ryzens, like the 4000s, G models or the R5 5500 - they are on Gen3 spec. The second topic is enhancing games with DXVK - as you don't play the latest games you frequently use DX11 - it also works on DX10 and 9, which is good cause there's no options for multithreading on the rendering side there. Result differ based both on games and the GPU+CPU they are ran on, but should be considered either way. github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases - I discovered that DXVK has a compiled windows version a few months after I killed my R7 250X with TF2 - I could have played it with DXVK as that game in particular benefits, it not receiving optimizations least for a decade. Now I'm on a GT 8500, it's not pleasant. Besides I haven't seen someone try out DXVK on an FX - the nonsense with the bad singlethread was because of the difference between the driver architecture of Nvidia and AMD back in the day. Nvidia made benefit of a simple multithreading code - including it in the driver, however AMDs driver wasn't compatible with it, AMD instead created the Mantle API and open-sourced it - that is the backbone of the Vulkan API, which is the latest standart for APIs - but companies like Nvidia hate open standarts as their solutions only work - and more importantly, pay - well with closed source crap. Now there's a way to enable somewhat dedicated multithreaded code into a DX11 game (iterations in DX12 and Vulkan are superior), but devs need to code a bit to enable them, so no surprise we see many singlethreaded titles - and people still pay for those today. ua-cam.com/video/nIoZB-cnjc0/v-deo.html - here's a link to someone giving proper explanation on the case of the drivers, if anyone wants to hear something other than marketing crap repeated for *insert number* thousandth time by reviewers sponsored by guess who. The topic with the modded drivers is more for people with older GPUs (Vega, Polaris, GCN), however they do still provide better stability for some users - if there's ever need for them www.amernimezone.com/ (of course check for viruses if you have doubts for malware). A friend of mine is complaining about the drivers for his 6600XT - I'm quite sure he's with the x.x.2 drivers. He now thinks that AMD got greedy and started screwing their customers - didn't tell him yet that the 6600XT is less than 2 years old and AMD can get sued if they provide bad support for it - something intel would love as it would crash AMD's stocks. The last part about undervolting is for any GPU owner really - I really doubt either Nvidia nor AMD, hell even intel won't be able to sell us cards when USA start moving weapons and troops in Taiwan and after a few weeks of special military operation in the Taiwan strait TSMC ceases to exist. And when there's no cards to buy one wouldn't want his to die - like mine - so undervolting is a good idea to be done before you're left without GPU. And the Linux topic - the general topic of open-source stuff in which AMD takes active part in, while Nvidia is well known for their closed source crap - is for when Bill Gates demands you insert your soul into your device to continue using Internet - else FBI will come over and you'll have to eat bugs in prison. Or pack your stuff and emigrate to the global South, your choice - after all western society is quite overrated, the path to the south is quite clear, and to the East - is a separate journey for the mentally prepared. I personally will be looking for Chinese GPUs in the future.
I've ran both Nvidia and ATI/AMD my while life. However as the card prices have pushed my to the low end cards. For AMD I picked up a 6500xt for $150 new. I cant even buy my old GTX1050 for that much anymore.
About the driver... Try to update to the 23.2.2, I've did it yesterday on the 6650XT and 6800, what I have just to check if the performance increase really happend, what I've heard about in case of RT performance. So I've tested it with Cyberpunk 2077, 1080p with disabled FSR in the inbuilt benchmark. 6650 ---------------- Driver ------ AVG --------- Min Ultra (noRT) ----- 22.11.2 --- 90,79 ------- 58,35 Ultra (noRT) ----- 23.2.2 ----- 90,80 ------- 65,07 RT Ultra ------------ 22.11.2 --- 14,36 ------- 7,37 RT Ultra ------------ 23.2.2 ----- 16,81 ------- 8,4 6800 ---------------- Driver ------ AVG --------- Min Ultra (noRT) ----- 22.11.2 --- 113,81 ------- 83,68 Ultra (noRT) ----- 23.2.2 ----- 132,45 ------- 71,07 RT Ultra ------------ 22.11.2 --- 33,68 -------- 21,75 RT Ultra ------------ 23.2.2 ----- 56,24 -------- 38,75 I was suprised to be honest. Especially with the 6800 nonXT. So just keep in mind for your testing. The CPU was different under these cards, as they sit in different computers, the 6650 is paired with an 5600X, meanwhile the 6800 is with 5950X (which runs in 65W mode). But still, the performance uplift is significant.
The problem with AMD is they’re always behind. I had one a few years back and of course they didn’t have physics. They still can’t do RTX properly and DLSS had them panicking out right when nVidia launched it. Then they try to mimic nVidia but always kinda fall short every damn generation. You always know when you go for AMD that you will probably save a few bucks but invariably loose something in the process. And of course there is the issue of them being incapable of releasing potent drivers. Really this has been going for as long as I can remember and every time I fall for the cheap gimmick I always slap myself when facing the exact same problems I had a few generations back. So the choice is usually pretty simple for me but of course nVidia just had to completely ruin everything and go nuts with their over inflated prices that make them completely out of any race now for the average consumer. So there have fun people:)
I felt similarly so I opted for nvidia this time. Always seemed like I was missing out on something. So far it's been fairly true that amd drivers have squeezed more performance out of their cards after awhile. Imagine if they had it sorted to start with. I guess it's better than nothing but people want to give praise for it. Like so many saying how wonderful evga is with their warranties and the countless rma stories. Umm, wouldn't not having to rma in the first place be the real win? I'm all for updating drivers and tweaks and fixes but it sounds like their drivers come out of the gate like a bad beta version and everyone's fingers crossed they fix it. And if they don't? Or by the time they do there are better performing options available.
ive gone with AMD until the GTX 970 came out then i had a 2070 . i went back to AMD and i love how everything i need is available straight from Adrenaline. no need for 3rd party tools to control fan speed, tdp, OC settings and i can even control my CPU all one from place. The only issue i have since going back to amd is that my portrait monitor doesnt recognize its in portrait mode (Cursor still acts in landscape when scrolled over to it) but that fixable by having windows magnifier auto start
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Dude, your reviews are something else, I hope you keep uploading. You delve into the user experience which is a very hard thing to do or explain on a video. These are all present from your previous videos as well. I really wish you keep uploading and maintaining that or at least touching on the topic.
I did a i5 4590 16gb 1600mhz rx 550 4gb build and was surprised to see how it performed at 1080p (makes me question my build) which is a ryzen 5 5600x rtx 3070 32gb 3200mhz
I did that build for my brother the i5 one, thing is no one will know the user experience side. and to me it felt a slight difference and it ddnt bother me at all, sure some graphic settings were lowered down but user experience wise, it was good. I had no complaints.
@@boneman1210 Thank you!
Apex is an Nvidia title, that means that they don't worry about and cards anymore than basics. Check out any Russian free to play game and you get the same thing or worse. I've had to roll back driver's for weeks until game updates fixed the problems.
@@RATechYT Let me help you with your Radeon GPU, the best option to you enable is "Radeon™ Enhanced Sync" and "Radeon™ Anti-Lag".
Just enable this two options and everything will be Ok
The first AMD GPU I've even bought was the 6800 XT. Since then I'm convinced that they can make good cards
hows the performance? i am thinking of getting it , currently using rtx 2070 super
@androidgamerz6506 it's on par with an RTX 3080. I've owned both but favor the 6800 xt because of the lower price and more VRAM.
@@Tubes78 actually on 1080/1440 it's ahead regular 3080
The disease of an Nvidia fanboy. Never buys AMD but talks like he knows both when makes a choose.
My first AMD/Ati was HD4670. Never looked back.
I love how I can configure fan curve and power limits WITHOUT needing to use a 3rd party software. It's all part of the AMD's Adrenaline package.
And if you notice it resets, turn fast boot and/or disable hibernation. Even doing a new driver install with full uninstall it works perfect.
you can install the driver without wattman... so its just the same. and the options in wattman for the fan curve are just bad. higher min rpm then other apps, only 5 point to move and need to have a gap of 5°c...
and then the reset thing.. good that there is a solution, but man... you have to figure it out first why it happenes.. it annoyed me a lot till i found the fix.
This.
I like how I bought my AMD card almost 7 years ago and it still works, plays every new AAA title and gets more fps and open source support every adrenaline update.
I switched from a gtx 970 to a rx6750 xt and have very little to complain about. Performance has been stellar and I won't be upgrading for a long while. The few problems I did have was with drivers uninstalling themselves due to windows update for some reason. I turned that off and now it's been flawless.
Lol.
I remember having something similar with my old RX 480 lol
How did you disable the drivers uninstalling from a windows update? I just got an AMD GPU and am having the same issue.
You have an AMD GPU, switch to linux and enjoy driver bliss. No more nvidia proprietary nonsense.
me and my wife have the same driver issue gamepass is retarded and it force installs drivers per game thanks to goofiness from microsoft it can replace your driver with a 3 month old version or if you are on a laptop it only gets gpu driver for the integrated gpu its SO obnoxious and i cancelled gamepass this month over it for humble choice
I used to have Nvidia, went for a 6800xt due to it being a bit cheaper than the 3080.
I ve had mine for about 5 months now and I m really happy with it
same here won’t regret
Same here! Still in love with my Red Devil. It consistently beats the 3080 at 2k too! DLSS is nice but I like the fact that the 6800XT doesn't require it to compete.
@@PyroBlonde7777 we have FSR, ideally you dont want to use it.
I went from GTX 1060 6GB PC to RTX 3070 PC (I still have both BTW) 2 years ago and works gr8. But i'm still amazed on how good the GTX 1060 still running games. The GTX 1060 can even run games 2k and 4k 60fps.
doest it crash? no headache using it?
The problems with crashes that you mentioned referring to the most current drivers, happen due to a Windows function that tries to interfere with the power control of the GPU in some circumstances, the name of this function is Windows MPO, when deactivated everything works perfectly without crashes, I used it for almost 2 months the 22.11.2 without any problem, and the same with the 23.2.1
ua-cam.com/video/NPE-GUEgKvw/v-deo.html
Thanks..!
The funny thing is, i found the solution for this same problem in an Nvidia forum.
I’ll have to look up a step by step guide for my GPU crashes. Thank you for the tip!
Windows is utter garbage when it comes to GPU drivers, on both sides. Ive had my W10 and 11 install always try to install junk drivers even though i have the driver install function disabled. Ive also turned off hibernation and it fixes SO many issues. Don't forget that a shut down isn't a shut down anymore, its a soft shutdown. And btw always unplug your ethernet when installing AMD drivers, saves from windows f ing it up.
if you need to disable MPO you got some other problems with your PC lol
I switched from a 1060 3gb --> rx 6800 and let me tell you I do not look back. The adrenaline software is awesome for over clocking and I love the ui! Never had a problem with performance and I love playing single player games in 4K on my 55inch tv. It is truly been worth the money!
Which Rx 6800 do you have
@@thingythingy9507 founders edition! Waited 24 hours outside of microcenter when it dropped!
@@nicholaslemire7515 oh wow props to you
I have a 1060 3gb, what's your current build? Did you have to upgrade your PSU before upgrading?
@@Dan-kz9xu I had a Rx 570 4gb and a 500w power when I connected my Rx 6800 to it, my build still worked however I believe when I pushed the card I had crashes and when I upgraded to 700 w power supply it was gone , 6800 is soo efficient you can get away with 600w PSU or even 500w silver or gold
I have been using AMD gpu's for the past 10 years and they were good for my needs but to be honest Nvidia's support for the content creation tools like 3d modeling, texturing , rendering even video encoding is by far superior to what AMD has.
I agree, im using a RX 6800 after a 1080ti but I really think Nvidia offers better stability and has better features
When AMD was competitive and at times better for productivity, people still bought Nvidia
That's because Nvidia made it that way and Intel helped them out along the way. With amd shooting itself in the foot when it really couldn't afford to.
Far superior? Which card and which software. I used premiere in both AMD and Nvidia cards and I'm not seen superiority at all or stability they both crash a lot because of Adobe not the Card.
It depends on which card and which software people use for creating content. The blanket statement comes decades ago when CUDA was more mature or the only game in town than OpenCl
i was ati fan i wouldn't touch an amd product
I swapped over to all AMD including the GPU's. In a nutshell they were available over Nvidia at that time and Light years cheaper. Never had any issues at all with games. I have even picked up and used the 6600XT and 6650XT and used them in systems I later sold. The 6700 and 6750XT give a huge boost over the 6600's and I am currently running the 6800XT in my gaming rig.
Just switched from a GeForce rtx 3060 to a amd 7900 xt. And I was blown away.
Absolutely massive upgrade wow
Well, about double the VRAM (depends on the 3060 - 8 Gb, or 12 Gb) - 7900 XT has 20 GB. ;) An double the performance. ;)
@@Theworthsearcher Really pleased with the performance of the 7900xt. Hitting between 160-220 fps on mw2 at 1440p
Try AMD with pro drivers, improves the experience, but to make it fair use Nvidia with studio drivers. Those drivers fix a lot of issues on both platforms when it comes to productivity. Gaming drivers are not the only ones that exist
This could be interesting.
I tried pro drivers with AMD and they rarely update it compared to the Adrenaline. All my professional apps don't really work well. Crashes a lot
I switched from Nvidia to AMD back with a GTX 460 to an HD 5770. Nvidia's drivers just had too many problems with games I played and AMD's drivers just worked without any issues.
When I built my new system back in 2020, I got a Red Devil 5700XT and it's been a gem.
Ha! So you're telling us that from a certain point of view, you upgraded from an AMD 57x0 card to another AMD 57x0 card! ;-)
@@davidmacfarlane4761 did you even read the part about "building a new system"? That's not upgrading. Upgrading would be replacing one part with a newer one in the same system.
Glasses and contact lenses are thing these days, as is eye surgery.
@@ReaperX7 I see where you're coming from, but I also frequently see entire system replacements also referred to as an "upgrade" (albeit a more comprehensive one) by those who perform them. Semantics aside, I was just making the observation that the newer card (in your newer system) coincidentally has a similar sounding name to your older one from your previous system despite actually being many generations apart.
@@davidmacfarlane4761 well it was 2080 level performance at half the cost without unnecessary features I would never use... So... It made more sense.
Plus one game I play religiously still has a nasty issue with Nvidia drivers even after 7 years. 😐
The argument against AMD's GPU that their drivers are bad and cause black screens, crashes, etc is nothing but a myth.
I used to think the same too when my brand new pc got no signal issues and had random crashes . Then I decided to dig into the problem, read hundreds of forums, and kept tinkering with my PC. Turns out, enabling xmp was the issue. Ever since I ran the stock frequency (2666mhz) from 3200mhz, I have stopped having any problems.
My point is, stop saying AMD drivers are bad every time your pc has crashes, bsod or black screen. It's more likely to be the PSU, ram, mb, cpu, Overclocking, bios or wiring problem.
I've had a 5700 XT since it launched in July 2019. And no, the driver problems were not a myth. The card was a complete disaster on launch, and was borderline unusable for the first 2 months. Black screens, BSOD's, screen flickering etc. etc. Had them all. It wasn't until 2 months later when the 19.9.3 drivers released that the card was finally mostly stable. But I will say at this point that the card is 100% rock solid. I often don't reboot my machine unless there's a Windows update that forces me, and I can have month long up times with heavy usage and won't have a problem.
So, yeah, AMD drivers can be pretty awful, but they do usually sort all of the problems out, it's just that their comparatively smaller driver team takes a bit longer than it might on the nVidia side. All that being said, I have used Radeon GPU's exclusively for 13 years, and will continue to do so, as it means I don't have to give money to a corporation which I consider the scummiest in the industry (nVidia).
Crashes from xmp sounds like a different issue not related to the gpu. If it were there's no way you'd convince me a gpu is good if it in fact forced me to use jedec speeds on my ram. Not when other gpu's run just great with xmp enabled.
@@mattk6827 you missed the point. It had nothing to do with the GPU because I tried my old GTX 1060 and had the same problem.
built my first gaming pc last year with a 12100f and a rx6600 great low cost pairing, have had no problems whatsoever, very happy with the performance
I have an 6800xt and really love it it has amazing performance. Great video
I am a user of both NVIDA and AMD gpus, AMD gpu drivers issues get too much "hype" for some reason. Sure there was a time long ego when they were still called "ATI" and a while after AMD bought them, when their drivers were gabage no question about it, though that has not being the case for years.
NVIDIA drivers have as many issues as AMD, and that should be something that never happens since NVIDIA has way deeper pockets than AMD.
The main issue AMD drivers have is that they do have more regresions and that they drop support for their GPUs way sooner than NVIDIA.
I got the xfx rx6650xt and i just love the radeon software i didnt have any issues so far and i was even surprised that i could play with ray tracing at all,i played doom eternal at 100fps with rtx and everything on very high 1080p
I had very few issues running 22.11.2 on my rx 6700 XT but they were minor with a screen flicker once in a few days or a quick black screen that instantly recovered. Drivers 23.2.2 just launched so I'll install that and see how it goes. Overall, I've been very happy with radeon cards and enjoy the extra cash in my pocket at the end of the day :)
try disabling windows MPO
I never had any of those issues on my 6650XT
No such issues on my 6700XT, MPO might be the issue, i had a video playback flicker, but after disabling it, i haven't encountered anything like that
If all else fails, buy a good quality DisplayPort or HDMI cable, that usually resolves those issues. Club3D cables are very good.
the new driver version seems to be very stable
Started from a gtx 980 ti, to a side grade of a 1080, then recently upgraded to an rx 6800 xt. Couldn't care about RT and only really wanted rasterization performance. I do miss some of the Nvidia features but can't say I used them enough to make me want to go back.
What about dlss? that's my deal breaker.
@@raevod6361FSR 2 is almost as good and it doesn’t introduce input lag as much as DLSS does, I have a 3090 and 6950XT in separate rigs and I love them both though
@@raevod6361no need to use dlss fsr unless you buy weaker card, aint there? also 1440p dlss or fsr maybe dlss looks a little bit better, both great though
I made a few videos about this topic chronicling my switch from a then life-long nVidia user over to my first Radeon. My experience was pretty similar to yours; I don't regret the switch at all and will consider both AMD and nVidia options for my next upgrade.
This is agood example of a guy who appreciates his hardware. When all the hype is on the new 13th gen Intel or 7000 Series cpus you rock a gen 2 ryzen still. Thumbs up my friend.
The 6600xt pairs well with the 5600x it rocks 1440p really well also
6600xt, great card. I'd even take 6500xt (current) over 1660 Super just based on price, and understanding I'd have to stick to more 1080p than 1440p. And I did! 6700XT, personally, over 3070 for bang for buck (Raytracing blows, DLSS/FSR both blow) not even a hard choice honestly. Once you pick up a 5th gen Ryzen, unless you're going 6850XT or better for rasterized performance on either side of the GPU aisle you'll get identical performance, whether you're using 5500 or 5800X3D. Drivers are so much better now than they used to be, with a few exceptions!
I made the switch to AMD after yrs of being loyal to Nvidia. Only reason being is Nvidias latest drama with customer care and sales tactics. Bought a ASROCK OC Formula 6900XT and I am very happy with it!
I am now rocking a Gigabyte RX 6600XT Eagle and I am happy with it, although I experienced some bad drivers due to overwriting drivers and bad PSU but now it performs amazing by clean installing drivers. Also, I noticed that as AMD later updates gets better and better in terms of performance.
I built a new PC with the i5-13600K and was waiting for a good deal on a 3060,. But a used RX 6600 XT popped up for $150. First Radeon card I've had sense the early 2000s and zero problems beyond one indie game not working.
Went from 1080 Ti to 6700 XT, absolutely nothing to complain. More like I was surprised that 6700 XT is better than I excepted.
I jumped from a 2080 to a 6700xt and even that was a fairly big jump at 1440p ultrawide
@@CalanReichel I play at 4K60, this is fine if I turn the graphics down a little with newest titles
Turn on SAM, and you will get even better boost.
@@JeZZGro OFC I had BAR enabled
@@RuruFIN If you haven't already watch a video on how to undervolt on amd and then you could gain even more performance :). It's not worth it though if you don't want to troubleshoot for stability (ie using different games and software like 3dmark for testing stability) but yeah it can give a nice performance boost.
According to Steam surveys 87.6% of the users doesnt care at all about raytracing..Stop including it in the reviews ..
Dealing with driver issues is what keeps me away from AMD. I had tested a 6600xt and a 6700 non-xt. Both had issues even after reinstalling windows and using two different brand new set up (Intel then switched to AMD cpu). I’ve had a 2070 non super and a 3060ti. Zero issues with NVIDIA.
As an owner of an rx 6600 (non XT), the card is insanely efficient especially with the amount of GPUs with massive TDPs. It's nice
yeah 6600 and 6800 are the most efficient cards for the moment
Can you tell me which processor are you using?..
@@akhilb9876 Oh, it's bottlenecked for sure but it's a ryzen 7 5700X.
@@ShockingPikachu I got same setup... well not exactly but close RX 6600 + 5700G (it was cheaper than the X version + i was waiting for gpu price drop to buy gpu so i went from 3400G to 5700G and then just added in RX 6600 - $240 new)
@@soulhazetv the 5700G was more expensive here and I was originally going to get the 5600X... but the 5700X was... 30 bucks more 😂
I have been using a 6800XT for almost a year and it has been awesome, but I use Linux instead of Windows, so it's pretty much a entirely different experience since the drivers are baked into the kernel.
You forgot to add that AMD and their open approach with software made Radeon cards the go to on Linux and BSD thanks to the MESA project and AMDs implementation of Vulkan and with Proton and DXVK, using Radeon cards for gaming in Linux is a no brainer (not to mention further improvement to GPU-related software) unlike Nvidia, that is a pain to deal with with their subpar drivers,l for users and devs alike
While I've used dozens of Radeon GPUs over the years, I've never had one in my main machine. Snagging a 7900 XTX to replace my 3060 Ti soon and I'm very excited! Great, honest video. AMD makes solid cards
update after 9 months ?
I've been running ATI/AMD GPU's for nearly 25 years, starting with my Rage Fury 128 MB Pro on an overclocked 400 (o.c. 450) MHz AMD processor in my first build. Even then it had people impressed that it could do nearly everything a Voodoo 3 GPU (for those old enough to remember them) could do except use 'Glide'. ATI/AMD cards have always been good to me, and always performed best with AMD processors, so it's not a surprise that after the acquisition they've been working hard on making the CPU and GPU be a matched pair.
I've had Intel/Nvidia combos over the years, but they've literally died repeatedly over time due to just normal gaming. But for some reason those AMD's just keep chugging along like the little engine that could. I've been running an 8 core AMD FX processor with an RX 570 for the last six years and it's still running AAA games in 1080 on high settings at 60+ FPS without trying too hard, occasionally a really demanding game comes along and bogs it down with Ultra settings, but there's very little difference between them besides water reflection and shadow details.
My latest build is a Ryzen 7 with a 6600 XT, and i can already see the upgrade in speed and quality before I actually install a collection of games on it. I can't wait to see what the frame rates jump to now as games have become more demanding than ever in some respects. I don't have the need to spend literally a mortgage payment, car payment, and insurance on both for a high end graphics card, that's a poor investment for the only person who can see it has to be in a room with me. Give me something under $300 (and God that's still so expensive for them), that let's me play what i like, and isn't hot enough to bake cookies on while playing Fallout or Call of Duty.
But hey, I'm just an old guy now. 'Mortal Kombat' for the SNES and Genesis, and 'Goldeneye' on the N64 were literally earth shattering graphics at one point in my lifetime. So what do I know. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
since you are super old amd user, can you elaborate about amd driver isues over years and high temps on their gpus? just dont say you had none :D drivers are amd weak point and temps during my time with amd in 2010 has terible, now new 7000 series suffers like 5000 series, looks like 6000 series are better with temps
5700 XT owner of here for 3+ years. The GPU is rock solid. I'm personally only recommending AMD GPUs for gaming, given they're usually FASTER while being CHEAPER at the same time than equivalently priced Nvidia GPUs.
Regarding the stuttering when opening the game: I think it's related to the CPU (or the PCIe bandwidth since it's on x8) for reading all the data and storing shaders. May be specifically when combining the GPU with an older AMD CPU, no idea.
Why do I think this? Well, I have a Ryzen 5 5600 and until a couple months ago I was using a RX 6600 XT. I got a 6700 XT pretty cheap and gave the 6600 XT to a friend as a gift.
I never had that stuttering, but he has it when playing Overwatch 2 or World of Warcraft, and he is using a Ryzen 5 2600. In the same games I never had this issue when using the same card.
Something is going on there software wise making that combination to perform poorly when saving cache/shaders at the beginning.
It may be architecture difference frankly. Comparing Turing & RDNA1, Turing SMs handle 32 concurrent warps with each warp consisting of 32 threads. RDNA1 CUs handle 16 waves per ALU with each wave being 32 threads. Both have 40,960 threads across the chip with identical memory bandwidth but arrive in different ways.
It should also be noted that Navi uses Vector Units while Turing uses Scalar Units.
Any number of these differences could cause the issue. Typically, RDNA cards will need to allocate SPs to perform additional functions while Turing/Ampere/Ada is able to perform multiple functions on the same cuda core.
I'm guessing, anyway. Don't take my words as proof.
@@The_Man_In_Red But as mentioned before, the only difference between the two computers I used for testing were the PCIe version and the CPU.
You know? I'll check with my friend. I know he recently got a Ryzen 5 5600. I'll ask him if it solved the issue.
@@Donivar Yea it's a really interesting observation of behavior.
The only thing I can think of why a faster CPU would benefit is that the compilation has a translation step before it's stored on the C:/ but I can't be certain.
AMD cards are amazing ! Period !
Went 1080 ti to 6900 xt about a year and a half ago. Nvidia plug n play experience is hands down way better, took me hours to tweak my settings but gained 12% performance and lowered power draw from 330 to about 250-270 watts. If you don’t mind putting in the extra work AMD cards are generally cheaper and have massive rasterization potential. Have been sucked into Cyberpunk recently and Ultra settings 1440p 90+ FPS makes the game a crazy immersive experience.
Did you remove all the nvidia drivers and things before installing MAD? Nvidia leaves a lot of things on your PC, even though you uninstall the drivers. 😞
I love to undervolt AMD cards because then they run faster because of the TDP headroom. I could run an RX 570 easily at 1,300 MHz and with some work at about 1,340 MHz. The RX 580 could run at about 1,400 MHz. So those cards are really good, especially the Sapphire ones. ;)
So AMD is always better, than people think.
@@Theworthsearcher When I got the Card I also bought a new CPU cooler and more ram and did a full cleaning and rebuild. During the rebuild I decided to completely refresh the system with a fresh install of windows. Over the years you end up with registry errors, old drivers, and old unused files, figured if I was going through all this trouble might as well start fresh.
90 fps seems a very low for a 6900xt on Cyberpunk at 1440p unless you meant ultrawide 1440p?. What cpu are you using as my 7600x and 6900xt get well above 100 fps at all times when not using digital foundry optimized settings (I use them so I can use ray tracing).
@@WyattOShea it depends what part of the game you are roaming around, if you are on Jig Jig street Ill dip down into the 60s, if I am away from the city center its jumps up into the 120+ area, I am using an 11700k currently.
@@RegazozoGaming Fair enough man. I have 100% the game and it's uninstalled now so I can't do a direct comparison to yours though but yeah my performance was around 100-130 ish in almost all areas of the game when not using rt but I did use rt for my entire playthrough.
Your earring is disaster my friend. And yes Radeon gpu are really worth in this moment
My last AMD card was a Vega 56. I honestly had constant small issues for the whole 3 years I owned it. Now I did have it watercooled, and it was an absolute beast with water. Never broke 50c on a full load. My last Nvidia card was a PNY 9800gts and it barely lasted 6 months. I have been on AMD since the 4850. Last year I moved up to a 3070. I haven't had a more stable system in years.
thing is vega had issues and was known. Definitely give rx6800xt a try.
Have both a 3080 and a 6800xt that I've used for the past ~2 years or so now. In that time I have to say that AMD has been more stable when it comes to drivers. With my 3080 I've had issues with so many drivers, black screens, flickering, broken textures in games, crashes, etc. With AMD I've only had issues with one driver to the point of using DDU (used it countless times for my 3080), and I also had a few drivers that didn't play nice with my a bit "too optimistic" OC.
Should also say that before the 3080 I also had a 970 and a 2070s that worked well, before that I was mostly playing on consoles for 10 years, I left PC gaming when my 9700 Pro from ATI got too slow for gaming.
My experience with the 3080 is actually the worst in terms of drivers I had with any GPU, but that could be something in my specific system that doesn't play nice with Nvidia but is just fine with AMD.
my experience with rx 6000 is great in gaming, but productivity wise... lets say that in arnold renderer for 3ds max, it doesnt even appear as a rendering device option.
I think encoding quality difference is very overstated, If you are just recording videos then you won't see any difference in Video quality because the difference is mainly at low bit rates on H264 which is only relevant to streaming. And I doubt you'll see much difference in RT performance between your 2070 and 6600xt. As the RT performance on both is pretty poor in general.
I really enjoyed my RX 6600XT it even overclocked well. The AMD software is nice with good overclocking and monitoring features. I switched to a RTX 3070 but only because I got it for a great deal. Otherwise I planned on waiting for the 7600XT later this year. And still may switch back if it beats the 3070.
Well considering a 6800xt absolutely crushes a 3070 w/o even trying I’m sure the 7600xt will destroy it also you can have a 6800xt for the same price as a 3070 which out rasterizes the 3080 in many cases you shouldn’t have any problem making that decision.
I did the same went from 770sc to a 2070super to a reddevil 6750xt no complaints.
Shader cache compilation is the same on nvidia Radeon or intel gpus. It’s not a hardware or driver issue, it’s a game engine issue most common in ue4
I switched to the RTX 2070 after the recording to check, the game had no stutters on launch. Added that info in post at 7:10.
@@RATechYT then it’s not shader cache comp stutter
Switched from a 1080Ti to a 7900xtx xfx merc 310 black... looking at the size of the xfx u could say it was a "big" upgrade. I have no issues with it , the Games run smooth , no crashes, no heat etc. im happy with it !
Recently got a ASRock 6700XT with a AMD 5900XT and love it. The 22.11.2 drivers work great for me, no problems at all.
I'm in the same boat. I went from a GTX 560, to a GTX 970, a GTX 1660 Super. Decided to get myself an RX 6600 because it was very cheap on sale. Overall, the performance is great with a Ryzen 5 5600. I did notice stuttering in some games, Warhammer Vermintide 2 being one. Funny because it runs smoother on my older secondary machine with a GTX 1060 3GB and i7-3770K @4.5GHz and 16GB of DDR3-2400. And Wolfenstein: The New Order runs sub-60 fps even though I played the game all the way through with a GTX 680 2GB and an i5-2400 with 8GB of RAM and the framerate was pretty stable. It actually runs about the same with an RX 460 as it does with an RX 6600, and dropping resolution has little to no effect. There are a couple other games I noticed aren't very smooth, but I can't recall them of the top of my head.
Some games, especially some older games don't run well with SAM. Try closing SAM with these titles that you had issues.
Did you remove all the nvidia stuff from your PC before uprgading to AMD card? There is a special way to do it.
@@Bloodin28 I agree with the other commenter. Have you used DDU in safe mode to remove old nvidia drivers then booted back into normal mode and installed the amd drivers that way?. If not then the issues you have could be because of old driver conflicts.
thats probably the only reason why i dont want to have amd gpu, because of amd have bad support of old api, and that was the main reason why i switched to nvidia. because i often playing old games like x360-ps3 era and amd gpu have a lot of stuttering/low fps problem in old titles. i also remember playing gta sa on my 6600 xt and when i was driving into the fields with a lot of grass my fps was dropping to 30-40.. nice.. in 2005 game.. meanwhile mine 3060 ti staying all the time above 100 fps in the same situation, and thats the only what first come in my mind, theres a lot of the others amd "surprises" to remember.
I made my own move to AMD because the 6900XT was cheaper than 3080Ti here and I honestly prefer AMD ReLive a lot more than Nvidia's software. Honestly, Nvidia software sucks and I hate using it. I will avoid Nvidia products in the future, especially now that Intel is also starting to compete.
I switch from Nvidia in Dec 2022 with a RX6700XT and was so impressed with that card and software that I bought a XFX RX6800XT today for my sim racing rig. AMD has come a long way ;-)
just got a 6900xt going from a 2070 super, very happy with it. Surprised by how good the adrenaline software is
i bought the stigmatized 6500xt for my fresh build and expected to be let down, but i was actually surprised with how well it ran everything i could want, despite all the ways they cut costs with this gpu they still managed to make it a budget king in the middle of a tech supply crisis
yep still 40% faster than a 1060 so yep good gpu
@@UTFapollomarine7409It's not that the gpu isn't good, it's that it's not worth the price when there's cheaper more powerful GPUs already out on the market. Like, there's barely any improvement despite being a new gen over the 5500 xt
It's stigmatized because it's only 1% faster than an rx 5500 xt for nearly $50 more, not even joking. And the RX 5500 XT also shipped out with 8GB variants, at a cheaper price.
@@umamifan you're thinking of the western market, here it's take this or pay triple for anything better
I had a Vega 64 first which I experienced black screens etc which was bad for an "out of box" experience. I then had a 5700xt which was a great card! Not flawless but out of box was good. I then went to an RTX 3060 12GB and I didn't like that I had to create an account just to use the geforce software like you had mentioned, but I also wasn't WOW'd with it's performance. It was a performance regression which I learned later is true, which I'm shocked about. Now I have a 6800xt which is the most stable AMD experience I've had since the start, very pleased with at the 1440p resolution; my mind is also at ease with the 16gb Vram headroom with new title releases 😎
If a game requires building shaders, you will be forced to wait if you 1.) changed the graphics card 2.)update the graphics drivers. Usually there is a setting to stop pre caching on initial load but you will get shuttering if shaders are not completely compiled. This is your issue with APEX when you changed your graphics card and the game had to dump the old cache
The only thing that puts me off are the Radeon graphics drivers, you never know if you should update or not. They are improving recently though.
6900XT owner here, upgraded from a Titan X. The new Radeon card is rediculously fast, but the coil whine is very noticable. My Titan was VERY silent coilwhine wise except for the jet engine blower fan. I also have flickering in chrome with adaptive sync turned on.
Coil whine can be reduced by getting a better or different PSU. For myself, I changed from a 750W bronze to a 850W gold PSU and the whine disappeared on my 6900XT.
On the flickering issue, might want to explore disabling MPO. I'm guessing you're on multiple displays?
@@choongkeat Yessir, two displays. My main display is 4K 60hz and to the left of it is a smaller 1080p 60hz display.
Amd is aware of the adaptive sync flickering issue
Coil whine to some degree is on all GPU's and is an issue present in both Nvidia and AMD GPU's, all depends on what board partner you choose, higher end partners are less likely to run into noticeable coil whine.
I have had AMD GPU's for about 4 years now. Personally i've seen a noticeable improvement in driver stability, my old R9 270X had way more issues with stability than my current RX 6700XT, with which the video flickering issue was the only thing that i encountered and was easily fixable by disabling MPO (it's literally just a single string in Registry Editor). I did originally intended to go with a 3060, but for the same price got a GPU that is more comparable to a 3070, so i just couldn't say no. It runs great, no crashes as others complain about them, at least ones that are the result of the GPU, so no driver timeouting. Runs cool, about 60-63 degrees full load and pretty quiet too, it's an XFX SWFT 309 version of the card. There is a bit of coil whine though, but it is considered normal, you will find plenty of videos of people having this issue on both sides of the platform, so no biggie here.
I have an rx 580 going on 5 years. Just recently switched to a rx 6750xt definitely satisfied. I don't hate nvidia (had a 1050ti before the rx 580) I just prefer amd. I feel my 580 will continue to be useful in a secondary machine for years
Turn of ASW went from 20 fps to 90 fps and smooth gameplay on rx 7900 xtx
GeForce Experience sealed the deal for me. I haven't bought an nVIDIA card for my main system ever since that application launched.
nVidia lost my business when (1) They started requiring an ACCOUNT to use GeForce Experience... and (2) They NEVER paid me my $30 settlement for the 3.5gb -vs- 4gb RAM scandal.
I really wanted to go AMD GPU for the first time and utilize smart access memory in my all AMD build - and I tried. The XTX just was not delivering 4k performance, 2 weeks after release. Using the Cyberpunk 2077 benchmark utility - I'm not kidding - it was neck and neck with my 1080ti IN 4K!! On top of that, Adrenalin(AMDs software) was giving all kinds of glitches/bugs and simply options that did not work as intended. It was honestly a terrible experience. I returned my card in fear of mass RMAing and I bought an Nvidia GPU. My fault for early adopting, I should have just waited... At the same time, when the card is advertised as 8k capable, I'm expecting it will handle 4k without issue.
The stuttering is very likely due to AMDs DirectX11 improvements somewhere in last year, and APEX Legends is a DirectX11 title.
The way it works has something to do with real-time shader compilation on the first run of DirectX11 games.
I am looking to buy a RX 6600XT somewhere during the following year, but I would go for Sapphire or MSI, I have not had a good experience with XFX HD7970.
The problem with Radeon comes with pairing it with something like a FX 8350 on Windows 10, you need Ryzen 3rd or 5th Gen to break through single threaded problems. You will be able to notice it in Assassin's Creed Origins if you had a pre-Navi Radeon GPU and say a FX 8350 or Ryzen 5 1600.
After being a Nvidia customer for 20 years I decided (for many reasons) to switch to AMD. I did a lot of research but to say that I wasn't apprehensive would be a lie. In January I purchased a XFX Merc 310 7900 XTX to replace my GTX 1080Ti. I DDUed under Safe Mode, installed the latest drivers and experienced zero issues. I have the fan speed set to 55% max and temps are hovering around 60C for the GPU core and 78C for GPU Junction during game play. I'm able to crank DayZ to extreme settings and I average 190fps on an ultrawide 1440p monitor (3440x1440). AMD's Adrenaline software is packed with features and is slick and modern looking vs. the Nvidia Control Panel which is lack luster and hasn't changed in well over a decade. For anyone apprehensive about making the switch rest assured AMD is a solid GPU choice nowadays.
Hello! So I figured I would share my experience as well. I changed to AMD GPU in October of 2020 (Right before the prices started to soar) and I changed from an nvidia 970 that got replaced by a 1060 3gb to this new pc I built and an RX 5700 XT. The difference here was vast, obviously, and I fell in love. Had a few bad drivers here and there but was easily fixed by reverting to the previous working version, I do stream (very very small time only) and do some recording and videos, and was always able to adjust settings and it looked good. Then November of 2022 it was time for an upgrade, my 5700 xt started showing some signs of age, several things were learned from that original pc build and the 5700 xt went through them all including power issues. With everything going on with nvidia and after watching the RX 7900xt/x get announced, I made the choice to grab an XFX 6950 xt. I do love this card, but it is not all sunshine and roses. Drivers dont always like certain games, specifically fortnite, while not my main game to play, i do enjoy it from time to time and fortnite does not get along with the newest AMD drivers.... However the card is a brute, it powers through everything i throw at it and almost always begs for more. I cant complain about my change of brands, I enjoy AMD (morally and otherwise although no company is perfect), drivers arent horrible, i can stream and play games, I may choose to use software encoding though as it looks a bit better and the 5900x can handle it.
i used Nvidia for a decade, and recently i switched to a Radeon RX 6700 XT and couldnt be more happy with it aswell
9:14: Nvidia had better encoding*. For recording, AMD uses HEVC. Recorded video quality always was top notch.
Streaming on RDNA2-3 using OBS with B-Frames now put's AMD's H.264 video quality pretty much on par, if only slightly bellow.
the hevc/x265 is a little too taxing for most, 264 will be more efficient for the gpu wo much fps loss, not sure abt av1 since its sort of intels
with what CPU though? Bottleneck calculators say my Ryzen 5500 is well paired with my 6650XT but doesn't have much left over. I've yet to assemble it all so I don't know if there is enough CPU left for OBS.
My friend, rx6600xt and r5 5600 are nearly without bottlenecks....
I know the FX Series of processors are now dead and buried. It would still be cool to see how the 6600XT would do with them, as well as a 2600K, just saying.
Those cpu's are old but not obsolete. 32bit Cpu's are the once that are truly dead though.
Fx8350 user here, as well as the Opteron 3365
Yes, and also waiting for the FX Overclocking in 2023 video ;)
i tried fx8320@4.2ghz with gtx1080 and it did better than expected , you can still play many new titles if you don't expect perfect 60fps all the time
@@Pieteros21 I'm more of a 30fps gamer
I personally liked Radeon Relive better than Shadowplay - I had less issues with it and I got better recording fidelity out of it. In order to get the same fidelity out of my 3070 I would have to record in 4k and max the bitrate which meant I needed to upgrade the hard drive I was recording too to accommodate it.
Radeon Relive was superior at 1080p which is what I play at because I play twitch shooters and my monitor is 240 hz.
I am running a 3070 right now, but I am leaning towards getting a 6900XT or a 7900XT.
Nvidia has always used compression in their graphics cards going as far back as when they purchased Agea Physx (dating myself here), and it was most notable with the GTX 970 3.5gb edition as opposed to the R9 290x in games - AMD looks better, sharper, more vibrant and nvidia looks like it lacks most of that.
That is still the case, every once in a while I will pop in an old Rx 590 and see how much better the picture is.
Another thing to consider is that with Radeon cards there is less CPU overhead- Nvidia relies heavily on single core performance and AMD has always had gamers in mind so the way they approached this problem was Nvidia piggybacks on better hardware where AMD picks up most of its own slack.
These are little nuances you pick up the more you get into it - Ive been buying video cards since the ATi 9250 and the Geforce 2 MX 440 - Ive bought both brands all the way and Nvidia always had gimmicks.
They killed Agea Physx for no reason - it was amazing technology at the time and they did nothing with it and its not the first time Nvidias greed has put an end to great things.
There used to be a great brand called BFG Tech which had a card called "BFG Tech 7800 GTO OC" and that card was an amazing card from an amazing brand but Nvidia pulled some shady business deal and killed BFG Tech.
The most recent brand theyve killed is EVGA - and Im probably the only one who knows it resembles what theyve done to BFG Tech. Ive Still got an EVGA 1080 TI FTW3, and my 3070 is an EVGA as well.
I sold my Titan XP Empire Edition because its just a founders, but the FTW3 is a cooler card.
Moving forward I will probably try to buy AMD over Nvidia.
Went from 1070 Strix (best gfx ive had i awhile) to a 6750XT Red Devil.
And im so happy, and impressed though and through! What a beast!
Nvidia wants to gatekeep prices post mining boom, hide performance behind super preiums, 4k etc. Nah, not getting my buisness, hope they get hurt, BADLY!
Also, damn ASUS strix cards are ugly today, looks like a toy card for fornite sugar rush kids, what happened with the "military stealthr" design? :/
Happy powercolor had that demon design, badass.
Great video. I went from a 1060 6GB to a 6600xt and I haven't looked back. The 6600xt was the only card I could find in stock at a reasonable price. All the AMD hate is just sour tastes from the past. AMD if you are just gaming, Nividia if you're a content creator.
Back in the day, I had the king of agp gpus, the 9700pro, blew everything else out of the water at the time...
Now I'm on a nvidia 3060...
I had an AMD Vega 56 in my last build. Then i got a gaming laptop with a 2070 in it and just built my 2023 Gaming pc with an I5 3600KF and I ended up going with the 4070ti. I never had any issues out of the amd cards over the years, Just wanted to switch it up this build. If it gets me by 4-5 years ill be happy
"Fine wine" was a driver strategy from 10 years ago and it came to an end about 5 years ago. I know, because I've used AMD for 10 years - R9 280 and a 390 both on GCN
I returned a 700$ 3060ti I got about two years ago and got a 599$ 6950xt with the warranty money. I love micro center. PS always get the warranty!!
Great choice ! RX6000 are really the best GPU made by AMD ! Very efficient, great performance, easy to use with adrenalin (and easy to underclock/undervolt it to be more efficient !). Honestly I love my little RX6600XT !
Last month I built my first PC with an RX 6650XT but I was hesitant going with AMD because of negative comments about their drivers online. However, on reddit and UA-cam many people reassured me that this is not true and I am glad I listened to them because AMD's cards are a great value in comparison with Nvidia of course if you do not need ray tracing or the other productivity stuff
Amd drivers are great now. I remember them being an absolute pain in the ass when I had my hd5750’s some 15 years ago. People remember.
for me the 22.11.2 works really well without any crashes or problems :) from the begining
No-brainer to me, you get a rx 6600xt better than the rtx3060 for lot less money and the rx6700xt much cheaper than the rtx3070 similar performance,and the rx6800xt beats the rtx 3080 for less mony
my first AMD gpu was a HD 5870 back in 2009. After that never going back to Nvidia
AMD makes good products, but I hate their driver support. Their video card software is also bloated.
How did u find the amd colours snd the image quality vs nvidia ? I find that even after turning the full colour gamut for nvidia plus 10 bit it still looks better on amd
Upgrading from 2600 to 2700X? That's dumb. 3600 is faster than 2700X in everthing for less money. Hell, probably 5600 is less
Tell that to the 10-20% frame rate increase in some titles, not to mention noticeably more consistent frame times in games like Dying Light 2 & Cyberpunk 2077. I got the 2700X for cheap, and if I could, I'd obviously go for a faster CPU.
yes the stuttering was also prominent with rx580 8 gb but after like half an hour of gameplay it never came back
Still rocking my RX 5700 XT 3 years later. Although at launch in 2019 the drivers made me heavily regret purchasing the card, now i'm happy i got the gpu and i do not regret it ever since!
I had a GTX1080 which worked flawlessly for 4 years, purchased a 6900XT in December 2022, used DDU to uninstall Nvidia Drivers in preparation and had continual hard crashes generally when gaming, I changed the power leads from the Card to power supply and the hard crashes stopped but then I started having black screens that would recover after 1 - 2 mins, I changed the Display Port cable from the card to the monitor to the best i could find and the black screens (driver crash) kept coming, finally I discovered that if I disabled hardware acceleration in Chrome settings the black screens stopped. The only other issue has been a couple of times when i have turned on the PC the monitor displays a Black & White Test Pattern, the PC appears to be running but i do not get the Post Beep code from the motherboard speaker but a push on the reset button and it starts up normally, I am not sure if this is GPU card related though yet.
Other than those few trials and tribulations the card has performed amazingly, mainly playing PUBG at 1440p with higher settings and great frame rates.
The only other thing I had to do was tweak the fan setting to make it run cooler.
1080p in 2023 , you dont need a $400 graphics card , a 1050 more than enough
I think the XFX cards are the best looking ones on the market
And a plus is they are one of the cheaper models typically. An RX 6700 XT can be found for under $400 USD used on eBay most days.
I had 2 beasts of Amd cards. A sapphire Vega 56 and a Red Devil 5700 XT. Great when they worked which they did for the most part but I got sick and tired of the random Black screens and the very fact despite years of owning both cards and numerous driver updates, the memory clock would always run at full speed due to the fact I ran dual monitors.
I bought my first Nvidia GPU back around 2002/2003, and used them exclusively until last year, when I decided to buy an RX 6800 XT. The low availability and insanely high price markups on Nvidia GPUs drove me to AMD. I had occasional black screen/reboot issues with the AMD GPU at first, due to a driver issue, but it was fixed shortly thereafter. I haven't had any issues since. I like the software way better than anything Nvidia had offered for the twenty years I used them. Nvidia GPUs aren't immune to driver bugs, neither. Not too many computer hardware items are. I can't say that I'll never buy an Nvidia GPU again, but I can say AMD will have equal weight when deciding going forward.
Before I discuss : please increase the volume of your videos, they are much quieter than other YT videos - so that people don't have to increase their volume.
The case with AMD is always about the fair and competitive market. Something that doesn't exist, least not in the West. Crap is being thrown at them at all of their products, but the GPUs suffer the most as GPU loads are quite specific and demand optimization - and Nvidia holds most of the studios. Every single AMD card outperforms it's "rival" at launch as the drivers mature - the 5700XT started at the 2060 Super, it's now at the 2080 Super - first is 400$, second is 750$. As AMD are pushing not only their hardware but their software forward - with the small software team they have. Nvidia has that driver overhead as they are still doing scheduling on the CPU - AMD moved it on the GPU since they released GCN (HD 7700 and up), 10 years ago. It's going to be really funny when Nvidia has to finally rework their entire driver. Oh, and the fine wine meme was made by the AMD community, not by AMD themselves.
Now going forward there's things to note - SAM, PCIe 4.0, DX9, 10 and 11 games run over Vulkan - DXVK, and modded drivers. Oh, and undervolting and Linux... SAM and PCIe 4.0 basically go together in your case - if I recall correctly you have B350 from MSI - you can check for BIOS updates and their release notes, as in late 2021/early 2022 board partners started releasing BIOSes supporting Ryzen 5000, PCIe 4.0 and SAM. Now SAM doesn't need PCIe 4.0 to run - the requirements for the ability to read the entire video memory is PCIe 3.0, and as a matter of fact with modded drivers you can have SAM on the GCN cards from 10 years ago. The thing is the BIOSes for older boards should have all the stuff in one update, so you get that one - now one does need PCIe 4.0 for the 6600/XT (Navi 23 has a x8 interface, and when ran at 3.0 spec it does bottleneck a bit). As you go forward be on the lookout for Matisse/Vermeer Ryzens - just don't buy any of the APU based Ryzens, like the 4000s, G models or the R5 5500 - they are on Gen3 spec.
The second topic is enhancing games with DXVK - as you don't play the latest games you frequently use DX11 - it also works on DX10 and 9, which is good cause there's no options for multithreading on the rendering side there. Result differ based both on games and the GPU+CPU they are ran on, but should be considered either way. github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases - I discovered that DXVK has a compiled windows version a few months after I killed my R7 250X with TF2 - I could have played it with DXVK as that game in particular benefits, it not receiving optimizations least for a decade. Now I'm on a GT 8500, it's not pleasant. Besides I haven't seen someone try out DXVK on an FX - the nonsense with the bad singlethread was because of the difference between the driver architecture of Nvidia and AMD back in the day. Nvidia made benefit of a simple multithreading code - including it in the driver, however AMDs driver wasn't compatible with it, AMD instead created the Mantle API and open-sourced it - that is the backbone of the Vulkan API, which is the latest standart for APIs - but companies like Nvidia hate open standarts as their solutions only work - and more importantly, pay - well with closed source crap. Now there's a way to enable somewhat dedicated multithreaded code into a DX11 game (iterations in DX12 and Vulkan are superior), but devs need to code a bit to enable them, so no surprise we see many singlethreaded titles - and people still pay for those today. ua-cam.com/video/nIoZB-cnjc0/v-deo.html - here's a link to someone giving proper explanation on the case of the drivers, if anyone wants to hear something other than marketing crap repeated for *insert number* thousandth time by reviewers sponsored by guess who.
The topic with the modded drivers is more for people with older GPUs (Vega, Polaris, GCN), however they do still provide better stability for some users - if there's ever need for them www.amernimezone.com/ (of course check for viruses if you have doubts for malware). A friend of mine is complaining about the drivers for his 6600XT - I'm quite sure he's with the x.x.2 drivers. He now thinks that AMD got greedy and started screwing their customers - didn't tell him yet that the 6600XT is less than 2 years old and AMD can get sued if they provide bad support for it - something intel would love as it would crash AMD's stocks.
The last part about undervolting is for any GPU owner really - I really doubt either Nvidia nor AMD, hell even intel won't be able to sell us cards when USA start moving weapons and troops in Taiwan and after a few weeks of special military operation in the Taiwan strait TSMC ceases to exist. And when there's no cards to buy one wouldn't want his to die - like mine - so undervolting is a good idea to be done before you're left without GPU. And the Linux topic - the general topic of open-source stuff in which AMD takes active part in, while Nvidia is well known for their closed source crap - is for when Bill Gates demands you insert your soul into your device to continue using Internet - else FBI will come over and you'll have to eat bugs in prison. Or pack your stuff and emigrate to the global South, your choice - after all western society is quite overrated, the path to the south is quite clear, and to the East - is a separate journey for the mentally prepared. I personally will be looking for Chinese GPUs in the future.
Thanks for the detailed information! Learned a few things for sure.
I've ran both Nvidia and ATI/AMD my while life. However as the card prices have pushed my to the low end cards. For AMD I picked up a 6500xt for $150 new. I cant even buy my old GTX1050 for that much anymore.
For real. Low gen CPU prices are crazy too.
i have rx 6600 xt and its lower TDP compared to my ex gtx 1660 ti
About the driver... Try to update to the 23.2.2, I've did it yesterday on the 6650XT and 6800, what I have just to check if the performance increase really happend, what I've heard about in case of RT performance. So I've tested it with Cyberpunk 2077, 1080p with disabled FSR in the inbuilt benchmark.
6650 ---------------- Driver ------ AVG --------- Min
Ultra (noRT) ----- 22.11.2 --- 90,79 ------- 58,35
Ultra (noRT) ----- 23.2.2 ----- 90,80 ------- 65,07
RT Ultra ------------ 22.11.2 --- 14,36 ------- 7,37
RT Ultra ------------ 23.2.2 ----- 16,81 ------- 8,4
6800 ---------------- Driver ------ AVG --------- Min
Ultra (noRT) ----- 22.11.2 --- 113,81 ------- 83,68
Ultra (noRT) ----- 23.2.2 ----- 132,45 ------- 71,07
RT Ultra ------------ 22.11.2 --- 33,68 -------- 21,75
RT Ultra ------------ 23.2.2 ----- 56,24 -------- 38,75
I was suprised to be honest. Especially with the 6800 nonXT. So just keep in mind for your testing.
The CPU was different under these cards, as they sit in different computers, the 6650 is paired with an 5600X, meanwhile the 6800 is with 5950X (which runs in 65W mode). But still, the performance uplift is significant.
Should've got Ryzen 7 5800X3D instead.. dirt cheap, best CPU on the AM4 platform, and has insane good boost in games thanks to it's 3D cache.
Of course I'd get that if I could.
I can confirm shader stutters also happen with Nvidia cards.
The problem with AMD is they’re always behind. I had one a few years back and of course they didn’t have physics. They still can’t do RTX properly and DLSS had them panicking out right when nVidia launched it. Then they try to mimic nVidia but always kinda fall short every damn generation. You always know when you go for AMD that you will probably save a few bucks but invariably loose something in the process. And of course there is the issue of them being incapable of releasing potent drivers. Really this has been going for as long as I can remember and every time I fall for the cheap gimmick I always slap myself when facing the exact same problems I had a few generations back.
So the choice is usually pretty simple for me but of course nVidia just had to completely ruin everything and go nuts with their over inflated prices that make them completely out of any race now for the average consumer.
So there have fun people:)
I felt similarly so I opted for nvidia this time. Always seemed like I was missing out on something. So far it's been fairly true that amd drivers have squeezed more performance out of their cards after awhile. Imagine if they had it sorted to start with. I guess it's better than nothing but people want to give praise for it. Like so many saying how wonderful evga is with their warranties and the countless rma stories. Umm, wouldn't not having to rma in the first place be the real win? I'm all for updating drivers and tweaks and fixes but it sounds like their drivers come out of the gate like a bad beta version and everyone's fingers crossed they fix it. And if they don't? Or by the time they do there are better performing options available.
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ive gone with AMD until the GTX 970 came out then i had a 2070 . i went back to AMD and i love how everything i need is available straight from Adrenaline. no need for 3rd party tools to control fan speed, tdp, OC settings and i can even control my CPU all one from place.
The only issue i have since going back to amd is that my portrait monitor doesnt recognize its in portrait mode (Cursor still acts in landscape when scrolled over to it) but that fixable by having windows magnifier auto start