Dodge Journey: No Start, No Crank
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2025
- In this video I have a look at a 2015 Dodge Journey that was towed in for a no crank condition. The power of visual inspection comes through strong in this video. Aftermarket add on junk strikes again! -Enjoy!
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*UPDATE:* The customer stopped back a few days later and we installed the OEM antenna on the roof so it would solve the issues with the wet headliner. He bought the car in the condition it was in, back up camera and baby shark fin were all ready on there. He did not want to do any further testing with the internal key detection antenna's at this time
Hopefully he asked you to pull that silly cow catcher off the back too!
Just curious you disconnected the aftermarket feed wire at the backend wouldn't it be better to disconnect at the feed just incase it rubs through elsewhere .
the aftermarket crap ends up being the eBay aftermarket crap and it just goes bad after a couple months or the rubber seals go bad
@@190055joe the video feed runs all the way to the front. The power is tapped of that module in the back. He cut the power wire and the video feed is now dead because of it. So it doesn't really matter if it rubs through, because there is no voltage on it anyway
Thanks for your very informative videos. Your patience with wiring and troubleshooting is amazing. You take the time to find the source of a problem. That's inspiring and auto mechanics everywhere should follow your example. Keep up the great work and your videos.
Eric took his cap off. Shits about to get serious
GLAD I SCRAPPED MY DODGE CHRYSLER FOR SUBIE-
FORD TOO-
NEVER AGAIN DODGE FORD
@@ekop1778 You forgot to add GM to your list of "never agains"
@@ekop1778 subie is my never again. Dodge hasnt stranded me yet.
I had so many issues with my 01 Outback, the only thing that didn't break was the head gaskets.
If Eric took his cap off while talking to a customer i would be running.
....."But the tech who installed the back-up camera attended our 3 hour training class to get certified. That is what makes it your best buy."
all apprentices only need watch the SMA channel
When aftermarket garbage gets installed correctly, we never get to see it! ;D
Back in my early 20s, I lived out in the country for a bit. Lack of street lights at night convinced me to pick up the most AWESOME LIGHT KIT EVER from Walmart... This was long before I was even remotely interested in cars and mechanics and whatnot. Got 'em installed (without reading the directions, of course!), turned 'em on real quick, they worked, waited for nightfall to take a quick drive, and in less than a minute, my car was on fire.
A wasted gatorade and a night of googling later, I figured out why.
Poorly installed aftermarket garbage jumpstarted my career. :D
Hahaha loved the story! I did lol.... for real.... still laughing as a matter of fact haha
LOL, proper installation would have been throwing away the whole kit and going to get good materials ;)
Haha that's funny shit right there
@skat kat Just don't ever pee on an electric fence.
I agree with your method of tapping and giggling wires. It works.
Short story... I am an aircraft mechanic. A helicopter was getting an error message from the autopilot. Gyro invalid. I finally found the problem by bumping the circuit breaker panel and noticed the gyro needle jump. A terminal was loose. I was later counseled for improper troubleshooting. I told that person to pound sand. Why didn’t they like me?
Eric, thank you for putting in the effort to make these videos so viewer friendly. It's a big pain finding and fixing these issues. Adding the photography makes it that much harder.
Nice man. I get this sort of crap a lot too. Customers get upset at removing the badly installed wiring. Can't win sometimes. The installers need to learn that harnesses need to be insulated to be done correctly.
or use wire that will take the sustained chaffing and sharp edges, yeah I know they'd never use it because of the cost $$$
Glad you guys talk. You both have great diagnostic sites.
I do all of my own installations of aftermarket equipment (amateur radio) etc. Watching your videos has greatly changed the way I do installs. Abrasion resistant loom, proper connectors, separate fuse blocks, no vampire connectors. Thanks for the insights into the problems poor installations cause for repair shops.
I had to look up what a vampire connector is, and it looks like a legitimate connector for repairs or aftermarket installs, what is wrong with them?
This is the first time I learned of vampire connectors, thought you meant like just twisted together wires or some shit.
@@ratataran The problem is trying to find them if you're the next guy trying to troubleshoot. They're not foolproof.
I don't think viewers should go crazy on the comments because of Eric disconnecting/deleting/defeating aftermarket stuff.
I mean, Eric's job is to fix the car's issue, and if that is caused by some external device causing havoc and fixed by removing said contraption, then so be it.
We should all realiz that Eric ain't no car stereo installer, he's a car tech and he's gonna resolve the drivability issue he's been hired to fix. If the owner wants his/her aftermarket stuff back on, then an expert qualified installer should be the one to be hired for the job.
Ty Jesus and ty Eric for at least giving me places to look other than "it's ya bàttery!" My car hasn't had dependable cranking for nearly a year and a half due to very similar issues looking forward to have someone check into these possibilities
What I would have done to fix it, since the problem is a break down of insulation is reinsulate it. With a piece of rubber hose (vacuum line) slit up the side and installed over the wire, tied with small zip ties and maybe file down the sharp edge. This would love all the after market accessories in place and undisturbed.
Eric has got to be one of the best mechanics out there. He also does a great job of filming as he talks. He has my respect!
It's easy to do that with modern meters and scopes. They've got so many features.
Oh, how I would love a Big Clive / SMA collaboration video.
It is fancy but nothing more important than knowledge. This can be done with a multimeter that has the capability to capture max/min readings. Trust me, I can give you all the scan tools & scope meters and you wouldn't fix crap if you didn't know where to begin or understand the system you're trying to fix.
@@rosco77365 clive is in uk and rick is in us, i guess
I really like your 'practical' approach to diagnosis. I wonder about the other shops that send their 'problems' to you. Do they just do the easy jobs only??? What will the future repairs be like when all these electronic laden cars get many years and miles on them? I predict a lot of vehicles will be thrown away without people like you !!
I love your videos and your honesty and work ethic. A loyal fan. Bob (Dallas, OR)
@@mctigmctiggy1475 in other words, you're a hack.
@@mctigmctiggy1475 you just suck at your job and can't diagnose problems quickly. You're the kind of mechanic that keeps South Main in business.
@@mctigmctiggy1475 little over 2 decades, why? You suck at your job, you are unsuccessful and bitter. I get it. Funny thing is, I'm the guy that people bring their "unsolvable" problems too, knowing damn well i do NOTHING for cheap.
"There's your problem lady" I get a kick when he says that.. Why to go Eric O.
The amount of aftermarket junk I've removed that pulls down some of the CAN systems in cars is astounding. Good find!
Hi, I am a new guy in your channel. I have been watching your videos since a few months ago. I was put in my house on medical leave since May 2021 and honestly your videos are awesome as you work on vehicles, explain the procedures, trouble shoots the issues and provide humor or conversation in the process. I used to work on my cars and motorcycles at home, however, my medical situation has kind of taken me away from enjoying my garage and maintaining my cars. Sir, I was looking for someone like yourself in my area and got lucky because it is hard to find someone with your integrity in the auto mechanic field. I just wanted to say that ALL your videos, regardless how simple/logical the issues are do not erase them. I have to stay most of the day at home (cancer I have) and I don't watch other stuff on TV or the internet because it is repetitive/gossip/non productive information. THANK YOU!!!!!!
God bless you all for all the time and effort as well the encouragement that you provided to many of us thank you
I love how you spend the time showing the debugging process in your videos. Way to often youtubers will show the beginning then come back with "so that was it" without showing the process. Keep up the great work.
Saw Journey in 78 with Cheap Trick, Heart and the Motor City Madman! County Stadium, Milwaukee! Great show! Oh..... sorry wrong Journey.
world series of rock???
Back when bands were made up of people who had real talent. saw all these and many more.
@@richardcranium5839 Grand Slam Jam
I have watched a lot of repair videos over the years (It's a sickness) and yours are the absolute BEST.
Literally had a red journey come in today with a no start, and it was red too! Mine was a 2016 though, with the 4 cylinder, and it still cranked. Turns out it needed either a CKP or the harness. Chrysler actually has a recall for that specific issue so we sent it to the dealership
As a former wrench-turner, I truly enjoy your videos, even learn a thing or two here and there, even if I don't do it any more.
As a mechanic I thought tools would be my main expense....then around 2000 every car manufacturer decided to change their styles of fuses every 3 years or so with Ford leading the pack. Now I carry to full trays of fuses in the truck only to find....there is always a style I’m missing...oh the saga....
Eric's troubleshooting techniques are absolutely superb. I learn something about cars every-time I watch one of Eric's videos. Good job Eric & Mrs. O!
For those who do not know, You can push the Push To Start button a second time to stop the engine from cranking. Also if you hold it in, while driving, the engine will shut off.
I've noticed that it's the aftermarket stuff that was run poorly that always does the damage and leaves them stranded... Thank you for bringing us along for the diagnostic.. i really love your videos, the things you say make me laugh sometimes .. " i've got you guys propped up on the seat belt bolt " .. and "let me give you guys vertigo while i zoom in" lol .. makes the repair more fun to watch .. :)
Very Good Diag! Aftermarket crap, installed by non professional = trouble!
Hi Eric, It's all very well putting after market stuff on your car, but get it done professionally unless you really know what your doing. Your video just goes to show how a botched install can screw up the car's systems so easily... Great videos Eric thanks for making them... All the best from Peter in the UK.
Chrysler dealer tech here, that shark fin antenna is not factory. Also, whoever did that hack job wiring is an idiot, wiring should never be run across the face of an airbag. That could interfere with the proper op of the curtain airbag right there. That's a federal offense, as it could be considered tampering with federally mandated safety equipment. One common problem i'm seeing with the factory antenna is the threaded portion of the mast gets broken off in the base of the antenna. Sometimes, the broken part can be unscrewed out, otherwise, the base has to be replaced. That rf hub has to be moved out of the way to replace the base. Seeing your update comment, glad that you were able to figure it out and fix it. Also, if the fobik is not transmitting, putting the fobik on the pushbutton and starting the car with it can help to diag. Edit: The interior antenna for the fobiks is under the center console, that's why the fobiks have to be in that area of the cupholder for the interior antenna to pick up the fobiks. I agree with you, Eric about aftermarket accessories installation, and about never tapping into a module power feed.
Never run anything on the egress side of airbag. Preferably not near it at all. Almost impossible to avoid on LE vehicle equipment installs though.
How about never tying into a circuit that also could just kill your car from even working!!!
It should be on its own circuit. Take the time to run wires correctly.
I need to troubleshoot my antenna as the satellite radio portion has no reception, this video is helpful for locating parts.
Yea the only place you should really run power from is the battery or the power distribution center. Make sure you use an inline fuse (in this case they didnt do that either which would of saved the customer from a no-start). Then if necessary use a relay and connect that to either the ignition, or reverse light, to power say aftermarket powered windows or a backup camera, respectively.
That's what's wrong with this country. Regulated to death. Compliant little sheep. Fuck the government. Remove the damn airbag.
The dealership I worked at would remove all aftermarket accessories from their used vehicles before they sold them. Dealer principal didn’t want anything on used vehicles that wasn’t an factory installed option.
Oh, I wish every dealer was like that,a long time ago I bought a vw golf and had some trouble, I went under the dashboard and got shocked, the amount of cable and aftermarket junk I removed was just ridiculous and I hope I won't see it again.
This is my new favorite channel, I have been hooked for a couple weeks watching old ones, you do great work don’t cut corners and absolutely not just a parts hanger love watching keep up the great work Eric O.
Watching u figure this out and ur wheels just going in that head really inspires me to keep working on automobiles thanks Eric O and thanks Mrs O for the hard work at the desk
You should have had your number one tech, Miss Marie, handle that. 🤔 Usually backup camera power is connected to the back up light.
I work on forklift trucks and I've also found that anything non factory is usually the cause of any electrical issues. Forklifts are a hack job paradise.
Love your channel
Best detective show ever ‘SMA’. 👍👍
When I was a kid one of the magazine subscriptions my mother bought for us boys was Popular Mechanics. One of the regular monthly features was a mystery car ailment that was stumping all previous mechanics until old Smokey had a look-see. He spent the time to thoroughly diagnose and trace down the source of the problem. I loved reading those articles, and later when I started working on cars I remembered a lot of the crazy stories - and then I became the guy figuring out what others gave up on. Cars are a whole lot more complex now, but I appreciate your methodical way of not only tracing problems. - but looking at the whole car and related systems.
So it was not a Dodge problem, but sloppy aftermarket equipment installation! Great video!
give it time
the backup camera should be tied into the red wire on the rear backup lights so they only turn on when the back up lights are on. been looking at Dodge Journey videos for common problems as I just got one recently. i'm glad this issue is caused by a faulty install of a back up camera and not an issue with the vehicle itself.
Thank you for the great videos! Information mixed with great family content. I would rather watch SMA vids, than prime time television!
“Sent from another shop”. They couldn’t figure out a blown fuse? Sad. You need to be an electrical engineer and a computer programmer to work on modern vehicles but old fashioned diagnostic steps will always save you. Another great video Eric.
Eric, your distrust for aftermarket equipment and installation is well justified.
I've seen too many cars where an aftermarket stereo amp was installed with no fuse or circuit breaker. The system required a 100 amp circuit but only installed using 10 gauge wire. Should have been 4 gauge or better. The wire was run through the rocker panel, with like the Journey, no anti-chafe on the wires. Good way to burn a car to the ground.
Out of the referral work you get, any idea how many new customers you pick up as full time clients?
Working 20 plus years as an RV tech I have sat in wonder as to why the rig I am working on hasn't burned to the ground. When I tell the customer what I have found they are usually not amused by being the recipient of a previous hack job.
These clips give me a new appreciation for how smart you have to be to be a good mechanic.
When I saw "Journey" I thought it was a video about your trip to Staten Island. :) But this is good too.
yeah a vlog on the island trip would be nice
I agree . But ya know hunting season coming up and all 🙄
My 2013 Journey has twice now, done the same thing; no power and no cranking. I had the battery tested after charging, and they said it is working fine, with no cell issues. When the vehicle first did this, it unlocked, then there were no interior or dash lights, and it clicked once instead of cranking. I got a jump, it started, and only ran with the cables. The next day I went to the vehicle, and it operated as if it never happened. Ran well until yesterday. I heard a constant clicking noise, while the vehicle was OFF, and the doors wouldn't lock, so I manually locked them. This morning there was just enough power to unlock my driver's door, then nothing happened except that same clicking when I pressed the fob because it said Key Not Detected. After I attached my jumper box, I had to start the vehicle with the fob pressing the ignition button. Then it started. Once started, it operated as if it never had an issue. The thing is, it never said Key Not Detected yesterday, or the previous time it has acted up. The mechanic thinks it might be a low battery in the fob, however, I don't know if the fob would affect the interior lights not functioning when it trips out. Is there anything you would suggest, as I have to drive this vehicle, and can't just go trade it in at the moment? Thank you. (Also, I have not had any aftermarket changes to my wiring performed, lol)
That's called a Micro2 fuse. They also make a Micro3 fuse which is two separate fuses that share one case with a common center terminal.
@South Main Auto Repair LLC
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Comment: I wish all mechanics was as caring, honest, sincere and just a darn good person as you.
Love the way u think!! But I was laughing when u said "that's factory" reminded me of Vice Grip Garage, lol!!!
Good job finding that short. I love the DIY radio installations with wires twisted together and wrapped in cellotape. Bad radio and alarm installations and trailer plugs with those blue scotchlock clips are a curse we deal with regularly.
Meter has to be on internal amps the way it's hooked up, it is set for an amp clamp in the current situation, pardon the pun😜
Nice job finding that short Eric. Have I ever mentioned I hate shorts. I hate aftermarket crap. Imagine how I feel about shorts in aftermarket crap.
Just remember viewers, if no one else can do it-South Main Auto CAN do it.
As a 2013 journey owner, I learned some valuable information for the future. Great trouble shooting skills and very well documented.
It's not a Jeep this time ,,,,,,,😌
Let's see where this Journey takes us....
Nowhere fast, for sure.
I was hoping Vegas, Pappa needs some new shoes.
After that,, market....
Show...
I have a 2017 dodge journey, my first starting problem was a bad battery in the fob. Battery lasts about 18 months before replacement. Thanks for the upload.
SMA recording? Time to mow the lawn.
Nice diagnostic work !.......Heading back up 390 towards home I had to swing off at exit 1 to check out the SMA Mecca ;)......yeah it was 3:30 am and kinda stalky but hey, had to check out the digs and absorb some SMA feel good vibes......lol....
“Fins to the left, fins to the right and you’re the only bait in town”...
Another Parrothead 😁
Thank you for showing how to properly trace down a short in the system. Working in auto parts for almost 30 years we get that question all the time and now we have a video to direct someone to .
I was screaming at my screen when you had the vantage on Low Amps 20, lmao.
Had problems playing your video Eric, perhaps voodoo from that after market shark fin.
This is a great educational video to demonstrate why you should stay clear of after market crap components, especially electrical ones. The build quality of that vehicle is bad enough without adding after market, poorly installed problems. Glad to see the new owner took it to the right guy.
Lol...using the right settings on the tool helps. Lol. Been there... 😂
Absolutely best way to fix that job, was remove the problem! ... I'm right there with ya!
Cool video! Lots of info! 👍👍
That’s what good mechanics does. I enjoyed watching it. Learned something new. How to be a hunter a good hunter.
I put 154K on a Journey. When I traded it, it ran like a Swiss watch. And the ONLY problem I had with it was warping rotors.
Tried Napper rotors and calipers - no joy. The only ones that lasted any significant time were the OEM parts. Otherwise, that Journey was a dang fine car and I was kinda sad to see it go. Of course, I didn’t stuff any after-market crap in it either.
That 3.6L engine was no slouch either. It would haul the mail if you asked it to. One of the very few Chrysler products I enjoyed having.
Thanks Eric. Outstanding video!
Good Job! 3 Reliable SMA Combos: Intelligence, Logic and Courage.
Enough problems with insanely-complicated modern vehicles. THEN made even worse with incompetent installs of "Toys & Widgets".
Whom ever installed the camera is an amateur. Wire that to the reverse light circuit.
Yup which is already typically in the tailgate as it is :)
How are they going to watch behind them while they’re driving???
@@JoePJack1 Mirror and that large rear window.
They may want the camera available as a turn on option. Cameras can be made to work either way.
Looks like its wired to stay on and be used as the rear view mirror.
paying attention and being persistant is the key to success. well done
why am i thinking Eric's not the"best liked" repair shop by other shops? Oh sure, he'll fix'em. but then it's all over U tube and the customers recognize their vehicles and prob harass the original shops!
Good job Eric
Sure there are people where SMA/Eric was not the first garage that tried to fix the problem, but I hear Eric often say "brought here by another garage". Some garages are part swappers and wenn that doesn't help, they send the car to the next garage in this case SMA/Eric.
Eric never shames the other garage by name (he's nice that way), and the customer knows what went down whether there's a video posted or not, so personally I don't see how "another garage" would have any reason to complain.
@@DaddyBeanDaddyBean I never mention the other shop OR run them down because frankly the local shops I deal with send me a LOT of work and I appreciate it very much :)
Eric l imagine you would hope that other shops would step up their game, I'm sure you will always have plenty of work coming your way. Your diagnosing skills are second to none, huge long time Aussie fan here.
@skat kat if I found out a garage sent my car to another garage without telling me, I would never use that first garage again, and I'd tell them exact why.
I have a 2013 Journey and knew that the shark fin was aftermarket.this is why I do not do aftermarket stuff except maybe a stereo
"Feels like I'm in, but I'm certainly not.". LMAO.
Well he got lucky at least twice before lol
Story of my life
Sounds like something he’s told Mrs O before 🤣
That's when I say " hold still a minute, you're messing up my concertration " !!!
That's what she said
I love those Mac screwdriver handles. Bought a whole set of screwdrivers, picks, and hose removers because I liked them so much.
Switched off packers game to watch. Thanks eric!
Who/what are the "packers"? ;) LoL~!
Must be in MN.
@@brianl6964 Don't know who/what the vikings are either! ;)
Your better off for it, you learned something.
Go pack go! And always best of luck finding a mechanic who is honest as he is competent at their job like Eric
"Connections, or where wires go through body panels,etc" first lesson on electrical problems! Good video!
Every time he said shark fin I knew this wasn’t gonna end without hearing some snippet of baby shark. Fml
Always a adventure with SMA when he goes chasing a wire problem!! It’s so funny
Grubby mechanic -vs - white interior parts. You survived.
Amazing that the first shop they took it to didn't find the problem.
"there's your problem lady!" (points to the Dodge emblem)
Good call on not repairing aftermarket stuff i learned that the hard way last week.
“It lives to die another day”. LOL!
dont EVER BUY A DODGE CHRYSLER
THEY WILL LEAVE YOU STRANDED----------------
YOU BEEN WARNED
E Kop idiot
😆
This is all I do every day. Yes....at a Dodge dealer. Love the chity aftermarket installs. They make the truck payment lol
Everybody in the world knows not to mess with the electrics of a Fiat. They come with factory installed gremlins, why add more?
Always love watching your videos. Good explanations and thought processes to arrive at your diagnostic conclusions. Keep it coming Sir!
I ran a Home Despot paint department and I wanted to wear a shirt that said "Too stupid to paint!". You need one that says "Too stupid to install!"
Your a jenius! Wish l lived in your town. I have a journey and learned the hard way putting in aftermarket parts. Thanks for all your videos.
When Eric says it was towed in from another shop are all these vehicles towed in from one particular shop or different shops?
I was wondering the same, are all the shops in your area crap, seems like you get a lot of vehicles from shops.
Hey man, I brought it in for a "no start" and your working on my radio!!
"another Chrysler product in the bay" Come on Eric, Chrysler quality didn't put it there. Some yeah-hoo monkeyed with it and "there's your problem lady".
LoL , made me laufh when he complimented the cleets/sneakers. Good taste Mr. South Main. Congrats on the troubleshooting prowess also
Welcome to the All Chrysler All the Time channel.
Good find Eric, I do the same with aftermarket equipment problems. If they want to pay me to install it properly, that's a different situation. I refuse to let anyone at a fly by night store hack aftermarket crap in my vehicles. If I want something, I'll install it and use proper wiring, grommets, fuses, relays, etc.
Cheers Mr O
Amateur hour: I thought you talking about the aftermarket installation.
Those small fuses called, Micro2. Great video. Thanks. Came from Pine Hollow Diagnostics.
Baby shark, do do, do do do do
Baby shark, do do, do do do do
Baby shark, do do, do do do do
Baby shark
Mama Shark, do do, do do do do
Mama Shark, do do, do do do do....etc
This was good information for us DIYers who occasionally enter into foolish hack mode. Wife wants a back up camera on our 06" town and country.....guess I'll run power all the way back from the battery. Prolly safest. Thanks Eric!
Aftermarket 💩 for the win! When will people learn.
Never.
@@dirtracingfan8742 Yeah I kinda guessed that but I had to ask. 🤣
because there's always new people
Good find and repair.I NOT A BIG FAN OF BOTCH JOB AFTERMARKET JOB.And you are right it take time .
Too many new vehicles have horribly located interior fuse boxes.
I agree all car & truck fuses should be in one location just like in a house.
this is why I am very careful with who I let modify my car (remote start) thanks for the videos they help me understand new parts of vehicles
Another Chrysler junk vid. Outstanding
That new little snap on pliers you have is AWESOME!!!
So what you are saying is that it wasn’t a crappy car that was the problem it was the person who installed a crappy product the wrong way to a good car and screwed everything up
When I saw that "shark fin" I thought the problem was going to be in the RFH module wiring being rubbed or pinched since the RFH covers the antenna base clamp bolt and it is obvious that it was removed (probably from a car wash, garage door, or a snow broom) at some point. Didn't think the power wire would have been tapped into for a backup camera. Just goes to show that you never know until you get in there.