Thanks for that Jeff. I can see a need for 4 of those units on my boat. One for each head, one for the lighting and one for another function. I have a lot of switches in each head as I run the toilet pump in both directions for better discharge, the shower pump out, I have a 2 speed heating fan to dry the room out after a shower along with an exhaust fan. I have a switch near each main bunk to be able to turn the Head heater on in Winter so its warm before getting out of bed. Then there is the new requirement for a black waste processing unit. That is one full module and a half right there. It would be very nice if they had some PLC functionality as well (long flush versus short flush for instance). I do like Maretron, but it is very sad that they discontinued their masthead wind instrument. Delos installed one a few years ago and still going strong. I’m ready for one but no longer available.
@@PacificYachtSystems Shall do. I’m more interested in the 16 channel unit. At a Class 1 Zone 1 rating it has to be very robust. It will have to wait its turn in my expenditure program.
Ooops. And then there is the Super Yacht pricing. It’s amazing how much you can do with basic switching, for not very much. I think I am committed to coming up to speed with Arduino for customized functionality.
Thanks Jeff for a great channel. When it comes to digital switches and products like this, I consider them as nice to have and I understand why both the boat owners and the bout builders want such products. The equipment on a boat that is used for navigation I consider as critical equipment. No one steers by hand or uses paper charts anymore, right? Therefore, a robust N2k network on a boat is essential. Do you have any thoughts on the integrity of the N2k-network when introducing new components that are not essential? My first thought was to separate critical and non-critical devices into two physically separate networks and then run a bridge between them. I see that Yacht Devices has such a bridge (NMEA Bridge YDNB-07). Do you have any other suggestions for products or solutions that are considered as "best practice"?
I was wondering if the feed could be a single pair of large gauge wire running at a decent height around the circumference of the (sailing) yacht, or whether you'd want the feed wires in a hub-and-spoke arrangement from the switch panel. The single pair would have to be beefy (50 mm^2 for a 40-foot yacht if you'd want to use the feed line for both power suppliers and big drains like winches and bow thrusters), and you'd have to use some screw clamp taps that would not require cutting the cable (and introducing a potential failure point) at every DS-box. I don't know if such screw clamp taps exist for anything else than earthing posts.. do you know? For a screw clamp, you'd only have to strip a portion of the feed wire, clamp the tap on, and then surround the thing with a waterproof / water resistant box to prevent corrosion.
Wow totally against any kind of electrical code, think about this two high current devices load up the large circuit and light up that cable and you have a nice ring of fire all around your boat. What you are describing is a grounding drain circuit you would never do this with AC or DC power.
being in australia some of the other company products in the digital control area require me to be registered tech company to get access to the programming software whereas this company which i have been aware of allows me in Australia to download the software tools I need to program the units. Personally i was looking an non critical areas like lighting in one place e.g. engine compartments and external underwater lighting which trying to switch the normal way would result in a lot of switching wires running back and forth to the cabin area. With most cabin areas for switching panels realestate is in short supply. Expand critical monitoring of other areas
Love this. How does it compare in price and DIY ability to CZone? Now you have introduced us to a new manufacture and I would like to know your opinion on these 2 systems plz sir? Great video and my wife said she just said she sees my wallet getting skinnier. LOL
Good basic intro to digital switching
Thanks, Jeff. Looking forward to seeing the entire system unboxed.
Coming soon!
Great review series
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for that Jeff. I can see a need for 4 of those units on my boat. One for each head, one for the lighting and one for another function. I have a lot of switches in each head as I run the toilet pump in both directions for better discharge, the shower pump out, I have a 2 speed heating fan to dry the room out after a shower along with an exhaust fan. I have a switch near each main bunk to be able to turn the Head heater on in Winter so its warm before getting out of bed. Then there is the new requirement for a black waste processing unit. That is one full module and a half right there. It would be very nice if they had some PLC functionality as well (long flush versus short flush for instance). I do like Maretron, but it is very sad that they discontinued their masthead wind instrument. Delos installed one a few years ago and still going strong. I’m ready for one but no longer available.
If you decide to try those Maretron devices, do let us know how it goes.
@@PacificYachtSystems Shall do. I’m more interested in the 16 channel unit. At a Class 1 Zone 1 rating it has to be very robust. It will have to wait its turn in my expenditure program.
Thanks Jeff, I have been poking around in Maretron N2K Builder, hopeful we will see how some of this is utilized.
Best wishes all.
Cool, thanks!
Please release the unboxing for the companion devices to this here on UA-cam. Great explanation. Thanks.
Will do
I would
Like to rewire my boat. Can I use digital switching this replacing the AC/DC panels? If so, what are the pros and cons?
Thanks
Ooops. And then there is the Super Yacht pricing. It’s amazing how much you can do with basic switching, for not very much. I think I am committed to coming up to speed with Arduino for customized functionality.
Thanks for sharing William.
Thanks Jeff for a great channel. When it comes to digital switches and products like this, I consider them as nice to have and I understand why both the boat owners and the bout builders want such products.
The equipment on a boat that is used for navigation I consider as critical equipment. No one steers by hand or uses paper charts anymore, right? Therefore, a robust N2k network on a boat is essential.
Do you have any thoughts on the integrity of the N2k-network when introducing new components that are not essential? My first thought was to separate critical and non-critical devices into two physically separate networks and then run a bridge between them. I see that Yacht Devices has such a bridge (NMEA Bridge YDNB-07). Do you have any other suggestions for products or solutions that are considered as "best practice"?
Thanks for sharing.
I was wondering if the feed could be a single pair of large gauge wire running at a decent height around the circumference of the (sailing) yacht, or whether you'd want the feed wires in a hub-and-spoke arrangement from the switch panel. The single pair would have to be beefy (50 mm^2 for a 40-foot yacht if you'd want to use the feed line for both power suppliers and big drains like winches and bow thrusters), and you'd have to use some screw clamp taps that would not require cutting the cable (and introducing a potential failure point) at every DS-box.
I don't know if such screw clamp taps exist for anything else than earthing posts.. do you know? For a screw clamp, you'd only have to strip a portion of the feed wire, clamp the tap on, and then surround the thing with a waterproof / water resistant box to prevent corrosion.
Wow totally against any kind of electrical code, think about this two high current devices load up the large circuit and light up that cable and you have a nice ring of fire all around your boat. What you are describing is a grounding drain circuit you would never do this with AC or DC power.
@@davethemmp3763 Ampacity of 50 mm^2 wire is 230 A, should be sufficient to max load a few of these boxes.
Please compare to the CZone system
Good morning Jeff does these systems pull amps continuously from your battery when connected ? As they are Digital Switching and if so how many amps.
Good question, let me find out and do another video on the topic.
@@PacificYachtSystems Thanks Jeff, i am upgrading my electricals at this moment and this looks like something ill do in the near future
being in australia some of the other company products in the digital control area require me to be registered tech company to get access to the programming software whereas this company which i have been aware of allows me in Australia to download the software tools I need to program the units. Personally i was looking an non critical areas like lighting in one place e.g. engine compartments and external underwater lighting which trying to switch the normal way would result in a lot of switching wires running back and forth to the cabin area. With most cabin areas for switching panels realestate is in short supply.
Expand critical monitoring of other areas
Thanks for sharing David, keep us posted on your project.
So what's in the bypass box 🤔😱 I'm thinking a box of alligator clips😁🤪👍🇺🇸
Good one...
Love this. How does it compare in price and DIY ability to CZone? Now you have introduced us to a new manufacture and I would like to know your opinion on these 2 systems plz sir? Great video and my wife said she just said she sees my wallet getting skinnier. LOL
Haven't an opportunity to install one just yet... so cannot compare to CZone.
I don't know who needs to hear this but stop saving all your money, Invest some of it if you really want financial freedom.
what if you don't know how to trade any of these?
@@sophianatalie7755 I see your point some people have the money and are willing to invest question is where to?
this is 2021 people who are not even traders make money from the stock, Crypto and forex market
@@alexiskayla9728 there are platforms where you Invest and trade your money.get paid your profit either weekly or monthly.Thats Investing
@@roseisabella1403 that's true