This is a fabulous short film about a very interesting topic. The 90's were incredible in so many ways. The machines dictated the sound to some extent, but as Duvanté said it, they were pushed to its limits and used in ways they were never attended. Music these days sounds often so much better, but just as often so much worse than in the 90's. We can't put the genie back in the bottle and there's no need for it, but I'm glad I got my electronic music start in the 90's.
it was always the least amount of equipment you had you had to get the most out of it. and that was the magic. j. swinsco (cinematic orchestra) made the lp 'motion' with an mpc and a zip drive. burial's first 2 releases with soundforge etc.
Djing has become less and less about the most important element of it, an active passion (obsession) for music. It’s not about pleasing a crowd, it’s about playing music that means something to you that you honestly believe in.
Curating a journey of a set is more important than the individual records. Doesn't matter how rare or exclusive the records are. The same records in different hands will yield a different experience. That is the art of it.
90's records are so loved, because the music was raw and simple and easy to groove to. No fancy studios, no super sterile recording techniques, no artists bisecting every bass drum and clap for an hour on UA-cam. Just simple instruments and some feeling...
This was a good little documentary on the current house/techno digging scene. However, I can't help but feel the topic deserves a longer documentary, with a wider lens that covers all the different music digging scenes around the world and the history of collecting rare records.
Many DJs were still playing the same records as each other back then just as now. There were less releases back then and less crap due to costs and record label gate keepers but nevertheless many DJs particularly in the UK all played very similar sets as each other in their respective genres. There were only so many imports that arrived on the UK shores each week and as soon as something became big , every big DJ had a copy. It is nice to see old tracks get a revival with todays DJs, providing they dont be snobs and hide the tracks from fans wanting an ID. Music is for sharing
Hiding your records ain’t being a snob it’s a hip hop thing from way back. Busting your ass off to identify a track and then searching and listening involving travelling to different towns or cities to find a copy before internet. Why am I going to pass that time and knowledge to someone for nothing so they can get props for my digging efforts.
In the clubs but illegal dances and parties underground uk tunes from the earlier part of the 90s was diverse inventive and prolific . Of course many tunes crossed over and became big .
"less releases back then and less crap due to costs and record label gate keepers" there was a lot of absolute shite too, it's just no-one remembers them
Crate digging has not stopped in the current day, your skills for crate digging work just as well with digital files online as it does with vinyl in a record shop. In fact I would say most of a DJs time is spent crate digging and listening to tracks in order to build up their library and create their "unique sound". Thankfully we have much more efficient tools today to help us with crate digging and music discovery online.
Absolutely! My collection wouldn't be anywhere near what it is if I had everything in a physical copy. Thankfully I'm content with any form of lossless digital files, so aside from a cd collection from my youth, and a smattering of records, I'm able to have it all on a NAS system, instead of a triple bay garage. I've many many times recognized what a gift it is to be able to jump on a computer whenever you want and track something down, with the access to music we have.
I can relate so much with everything Vera said. Good music is good music, regardless of the genre and regardless of how expensive it is. And good music should be shared, there are countless UA-cam "digger" channels publishing 90s music that contributed and still contribute to this scene.
As someone who resides in Brasil it is mostly impossibile to dig for 90s/Early 2000s electronic music records so I must do much of it online. It saddens me that in order for me to buy vinyls and have a collection I must raise so much money. Shipping prices on discogs are just too much also. Consider yourselves priviledged to have such access to a goldmine of records and equipment at realistic prices. Great video, loved it! Cheers
I have been digging and digging my ass of in the 90’s and 2000’s. Going to the best stores in my country from morning till closing time. When I made a city trip to other countries there was always a day that you could only find me in record stores. Now I’m almost 50 years and I still spend at least 10 hours a week looking for new music. But I do it on my phone or laptop and buy it digital. My back likes me more and I can search when and where I want. Thank you technology 🎉🎉🎉.
The part I love the most about making my sets is going into this rabbit hole, finding artists and songs I've never heard of before, those hidden gems I'm excited to share with others
A DJ should entertain the people with a nice selection of new and old music , make them dance, make them happy and creat a feeling which many can agree on. In my opinion that’s much more important then finding the most secret weapon which nobody else have. I agree in Vera’s statements. Good video RA! 🙏🏻
Big ups to Vinyl Exchange on Oldham Street for feeding my digging addiction throughout the 00s allowing me first access to all the new promos every single Saturday. Nowadays I dig on Discogs and still find gems I’d forgotten and many I missed on release particularly in the 90s when my mind was elsewhere or on another planet in the clubs; track IDs didn’t mater then.
I was a 12” buyer in the 90’s in LA. Our store Beat Non Stop was epic. The amount of records I collected from there is invaluable! I’ll never get rid them. I’m a digger forever!
I worked in London in the nineties and was given so many promos as part of my jobs in the industry...sadly gave so many of them away a few years ago ...still kept the standout tracks and got to work with some really great artists..happy days
It’s telling that todays djs don’t know the roots of their music to the point that it seems special to know the roots. One should love and respect your music scene and in so love and respect the roots of your music.
I’m glad I was buying records at the end of the 80s / early 90s, there were no rules! Simpler times for sure, but it’s great that today’s young DJs are still discovering the music that we equally discovered back in the day.
I was buying wax up until 2008. Sometimes on discogs. It's crazy how all those records I bought and played in the 90's early 00's are now again slaying the dance floor as hard as when they came out. I only started playing them again in the last 2 years. I had to wait for the Disco and Warehouse rave sound to wind it's way down with the tastemakers. Bc I knew the 90's and early 00's house and tech was on the horizon next. And here we are now. 20 year olds playing records older than themselves. It's all a good thing in my book. That is why my radio show is named "Nu Memories" on Jolt Radio
Same here. Stopped buying records or ‘digging’ around early to mid 2000s - all my kit for some reason ended up staying in my parents shed for well over a decade. It wasn’t until a couple of years ago I retrieved my 1210s synths and drum machines etc…and this particular shed had been broken into several times 😅 Many of my records are with me, many I lent to friends and will never be seen again. but most are in my parents damp, damp basement - stacks and stacks of 90s techno, house, minimal, hiphop, jazz and everything in between. I’ve kind of turned a blind eye to them being there because the last time I peered at them, probably around 2009, I saw the state of them. Mouldy and unloved. After watching this, I must make the effort to salvage and clean what I can. (Sorry for the essay on your post)
I think an issue over looked here is that big DJs play unreleased tracks up and down till everybody has overheard them when they actually come out. So it’s quite difficult to generate an own sound by playing new releases so naturally you‘d turn your head to the past to maybe rediscover a forgotten gem.
In the mid-90s when I first taught myself to DJ, the only direction you had were DJ mixes like Renaissance, Essential Mixes, and Global Underground. Hunting down those tracks was at least a starting point, and from there you would branch out to other releases from those labels or other tracks from those artists. There is so much access to underground dance music now, but it still blows my mind that there are so many unknown IDs from the 90's from past live mixes that have resurfaced.
I don't use premium, yet I am still here o.O Guess the algorithm that tries to keep you entertained based on your preferences hasn't much to do with a paid model, since YT wants to keep everyone on their platform anyway lol
I think it's cool that Vera says it's about the music not about who played how often or how known it is. But I also gotta admit when I hear somebody play high quality tunes that I (as a digger) don't know at all like onur özer for example I have an amazing night everytime so i cannot say anything negative about this.
I firmly believe it's better for DJ's to be open about what artists they're spinning. Sharing the knowledge is much more a Positive than a negative thing.
As a Romanian I feel the need to correct you - Sunwaves is taking place at the seaside, not in Bucharest. And it is mostly focused on rominimal, tech-house, house,
At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious…. Digging goes back a lot further than an interest in 90s house and techno. The Northern Soul guys started going transatlantic to root through dusty warehouses 50+ years ago, to the hip hop guys digging for breaks in ever widening genres in the 80s and 90s, us house heads finding our roots on lists of what Larry & co played then trawling the shops around the globe. The current digging of 90s house follows this trend of course, finding something new in the past. Kids digging for early drill incoming no doubt...
Mod DJ's looking for rare R&B in the 60's, NY dj's like Mancuso searching for rare/obscure danceable records at the start of the 70's, Jamaican selectors looking for exclusive tracks for their sound system....@@easytoassemble54321
Totally agree. The linking of the word digging to strictly 90's music is one of those dreadful situations that precipitates misconceptions. Lazy and depressing.
Appreciate the critical notes at the end. Trendy Digger-DJs (for lack of a better word) kind of get into the 2002-2006 era now and buy borderline silly 12"s just for the sake of staying "ahead". The scene turned into an echo-chamber and the futuristic aspect of the music has definitevly been sucked out and replaced by unwritten rules to a members-only club. Rare or obscure records never made an interesting set by themself. One interesting aspect though: Art/Fashion seems to be stuck in this 20-year recycling loop for the last 15+ years. So, if you want to be a trendsetter in 5 years consider buying early 2010s house music (which itself was a 90s 'inspired' recycle period lol). It's just fucked.
This was fantastic. It's been a while since I had a proper dig, this has inspired me to get out there again. I was particularly struck by the concept of "rarity being a commodity" - it sounds so similar to the ethos of the Northern Soul movement back in the 60s.
Dope video, Moxie on the narrative front! When it comes to digging for me, I'm all about what sounds good to me and whether it give me those 'goosebumps'/make me make that stank face immediately once I hear it. I can care less what's being played repeatedly by various DJs, its all about if I like it, and if its something I'll listen to outside of just playing it at a gig. If its on repeat in my headphones before a gig, its in my set at some point during a gig!
RESPECT THE ART AND THE ARCHITECT'S OF THIS DJ THING, A LOT WENT INTO THIS EXPRESSION, AND IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING. IT'S TOO EASY GET ON THESE DAYS WITHOUT DOING THE ACTUAL WORK.
Hahahaha that Outernational Wah is a record which I covered up the label back when it came out. Was one of those tunes back in the day, seemed to be only in a select few DJs out here in California who played it at that time. Great little film. Big ups.
For me its all about the labor. I'm a grad student and there is still a sense that a thesis is not complete unless you did the labor of travelling, going to an archive, and sifting through junk to get to the good stuff. Good art is about process, and digging should be included in that.
discogs actually started off as a techno nerd site... ibelieve the first upload was a dahlback's 'the persuader' on svek. i was on that site helping a friend catalog his techno and house collection 17+ years ago. first several of those years there was no option for buying or selling and i don't believe a transparent 'have' and 'want' listing. times have changed for sure :)
Completely relate to what Gene says. I spend hours and hours a day digging . Using Spotify (beyond the algorithm), Bandcamp and SoundCloud. Used to be a vinyl dj back in the days, and digging was also part of that, yet a record store is already pre curated in some way. There are people that are djs, and people that want to be djs. Vera is talking about how back in the days they were looking into the future and now it’s going backwards? That means she’s not digging enough ;) I come across insanely obscure, well designed and underground tracks by listening A LOT. Why would I want to play and repeat the 90’s when there are so many good tracks these days that carry a new sound. There’s an abundance of procurers and DJs, that’s a fact. You just got to dig deeper and deeper. Nostalgia is not necessary, the future is now. Talking about innovation but repeating what already has been done is the opposite of each other…
In all honesty some DJs need to drop the idea of trying to get some exclusivity to stand out from the rest. To this day I still memorize the monologue from Coone's "Words from the gang", and while some of the topics of it got dated over the years (ringtone commercials are long gone, being a DJ is no longer believed to be an easy way to get laid and barely anyone wants to be a DJ these days), one thing still sticks out to me that I feel resonates with the topic of this video: "If you're in the scene, being a DJ seems like a natural path to follow, and back in the day, DJs were weird people who like music in a weird way. Back then you'd have to be a NERD to become a DJ." So yes, while not trying to gatekeep the different types of DJs out there, I do believe the real kind of DJs are those with a nerd-like obsession for music, the kind that only the known tracks aren't enough, that they feel compelled to dig through and find underappreciated/overlooked gems, but that kind I feel isn't the kind to hoard what they find like a dragon and instead wants to (again as a nerd) gush about their findings and show the world what was being slept on, and that's something I can resonate with completely.
Back in the days as a DJ you needed the records. Even now i'm digging in thrift stores, record stores and fairs irl to find records that after al those years i'm still searching. Yes i can do click click and buy on discogs but somehow that isn't that fun. Sometimes i buy like everyone on discogs too i admit. But i'm still the wax nerd that i was 20+ years ago
yeah, what joe delon said. if you are good at your job you curate tracks from everywhere, telling a story of that moment or how you got to that place to play. it's like art, some people just bosh on tracks drunkenly and sound amazing that one moment in time. and that moment is talked about until the end of time. i have sold on ebay and discogs but i have never bought a record from either.
Just gave away what I think was the biggest collection of Rainbow Bridge on the west coast. Such rare and incredible bears. Glad to see the new crop of diggers are looking back to the 90’s
I thought I liked techno for years then I heard earlier releases from acts like Mijk Van Dijk and Takkyu Ishino and thought, this is real techno. Now I'm changing my mind again and thinking it's really more about doing as much as you can to create a hypnotic but compelling dance track all whilst sticking to a limited set of electronic instruments and effects.
When the talk is of rediscovering old tracks and re issues...the concept is around 50 years old...the northern soul scene did exactly this ..history repeating itself...just go out and find those tracks people...be on the curve..be one step ahead I was lucky enough to be on the pre Public enemy breakbeat days...my oh my some of the rare tracks we found in charity shops in the midlands in early eighties for 10p was ..now part of my collection..still got them
I don't know... I think there's still enough forward thinking in electronic music but the pioneering days are simply over. It was way, way, way easier to create stuff that sounded radically new back in the days but there are still many artists out there who innovate and constantly contribute great new ideas and fresh vibes - just more subtle. And also it has to be noted that artists kind of perfected their styles pretty early on and this (now "classic") music still works extremely well today. What was effective back then, is basically still triggering the same biochemical reactions in a dancing audience today. Certainly the reason why it's becoming more popular again now, is still a side effect of the Covid-dark ages and most likey also due to the many serious crisis the world is currently facing. Escapism, the urge to release pressure and get away from it all for a few hours - raves are made for it, aren't they? A bit of rosy tinted (remembered or imagined) "better times" helps with that too.
We have the power to innovate. All genres have new groundbreaking music coming out all the time, you just need to look for it. I think the narrative of the dance music "golden age" has eclipsed but that doesnt mean that it stops there. If we think like that then music will regress into tedium.
Cell phones are great except for at the party. Without the distractions of cell phones at the party you're forced to be in the moment. That's what's truly better about the 80's 90's and early 00's. That one simple thing. No distractions.
Interesting feature. A few personal comments : - it is a little late in the trend as the genres mentioned in here (techhouse, electro, minimal...) have now been quite rinsed for a few years and the current cool "digger DJs" (Quest, FDG etc) have long now gone into supposedly "borderline" territories such as progressive, trance, breaks, tribal, piano/italian etc ; and also way past 2000 as the electrohouse and electrotechno digging trend has been rising. More risky stylewise but often interesting also for blurring the good taste/bad taste line that was firmly established at the time. Also gives you an indication of who is a "real DJ" by daring to play "mediocre" records and making them shine like never. ie N. Lutz and F Del Garda play stuff that only they can make sound good, unfortunately for the many followers forking fortunes for records they won't have the vibe and skills to make sound exciting. - the way these records are played and blended these days are nothing like it was back in the days, esp as all styles from back then are now accessible altogether (nobody had access and time to dig all available styles which meant going to stores in all global areas...interesting intw of Desyn Masiello on that topic I read somewhere online). Also you hear in current productions hints of many styles of the past but blended in a totally new dosage and mélange. Often excellently produced/executed, perfect dynamics, perhaps sometimes lacking a bit thrill/emotion for my taste but generally really interesting - about the roots of digger DJs blending styles and taking risks imo : Derrick Carter, Weatherall, Harvey, Derrick May, Garnier, Doc Martin etc in the 90s ; Villalobos, Zip, but also people like Kittin in the late 90s/early 00s ; then Arpiar, Desyn...as far as I know Lutz only came with his own style less than 10 years ago or did I miss something? Exceptional DJ anyway. - and finally check my @phunk_sub Instagram for regular digging discoveries :)))
I love getting bargains and finding hidden gems I hate the elitism of some people with records. Where people fervently hide what they are playing, put stickers or tear off labels off records so people can't peep during their set. Music is for everyone. Music should be shared. I LOVE it when someone goes "that's a great song, who did it?" because I can then tell them and they can discover their new fav artist. Maybe that person is still producing, and has just made another essential sale so they are encouraged to carry on doing what they love. I'm definitely a newer record collector, I also don't shy away from new releases, but I just like a bargain (shoutout to Rarekind Records 5 for £10 bin in Brighton) Vinyl is more expensive, more annoying to carry around and often with poorer sound due to scratches, but I still love it, and the ability to flip through something physical allows me to connect with the music far more than reading text on a screen.
7:45 Could not have put it any better myself. The commodification of the underground scene sickens me. People are not buying records they love anymore, they are just looking at the prices and jumping on the hype train.
I didn't even watch this. A fucking 12 minute video about collecting tunes? Damn. This was standard fucking procedure for kids who grew up pre-2000s and were into the underground. Spending hours record shopping multiple times a week at multiple record shops was just a part of life for us.
Well ironically I want all the track ids played in this video. Jeez they all sound amazing what the heck I’d be more focused on the background track over what they were saying
90s music sounds different because the machines we used really had quality audio conversion to it(Sound Mattered), example remember when everyone did not like the SP 1200 but then it became the sound of hiphop, your interaction with the machine you were working with had a soul to soul feel, another example, how that filter effect which was always there on the S950 captured the imagination of jungle producers. Since the late 2000s everyone has moved to the computer, there is no soul when you working in the box, because everyday someone is coming up with a new app, and you spent hours with the mouse, this is why the number one search on youtube for bedroom music producers is "How To Finish Your Track". Human beings are Analog, our ears love variations, dynamics, constant hammering of pristine sound from CDj, USB, Laptops(god knows what converter is being used) will eventually make you walk away from it, but that does not happen with vinyl, because it is very dynamic and Mastering Engineers that cut all these records in the lates 80s until the mid 2000s had a lot to do with it because of the limitation of the cutting lathe, this limitation was finally pushed to the brink when we started trying to use extreme limiting to cut louder vinyl records, but for who ? Ever wonder why everyone who went to the Paraside Garage in the early 80s they said the sound was something out of this world, well they did not have the technology of the early 90s and onwards, so what was going on? I let you guys discover that, maybe watch the second DVD of Maestro the movie, that can really make the light bulbs go off in your head. In this video they are talking about that if everyone has the same records then they sound the same, this is FALSE, this type of miss information does not help the new Djs. The modern day Dj does not really challenge itself, being a Dj means you have to intoxicate and put s spell on the people who have come to dance, you need to reel them in and then unleash the feeling you have inside on to the dance floor, so its BS about everyone sounding the same with the same records. No one will play them in the same sequence, no one will mix at the same points, the question is can you find the frequency to resonate with people that night or you just gone come in and play some songs get paid and leave because you are super star Dj ? Lastly the Eurorack Modular world is giving you tools that no generation really had, therefore you can make your own sounds, so NO we are not going back, we just taking a small holiday seeing what happened until the next big explosion. The possibilities of new analog and digital sounds is just beginning, we just dont have enough young producers who want to put the work in.
Vera makes a stock market analogy, but it's really more like the real estate market. Landlords lobby against new housing construction (represses), while raising the rent on the limited housing supply year after year...
Hmm... but then again, the landlords (copyright holders) are not profiting off of the sudden rise in popularity, which makes your analogy a bit off as well. After all, we are talking sales on a secondary market (discogs/ebay), not a rental business. And on top of that, pressing plants are overbooked for years now, so you have to be able to plan ahead, which is the opposite of the whole "popularity because scarcity" concept responsible for the rise in demand.
I have something to say to YOU, MR. TITONTON DUVANTE!! One night YOU were playing and EVERYONE WAS DANCING! I asked you what you were playing. And you told me DAVID SYLVIAN!! I LATER PLAYED THAT SAME DAVID SYLVIAN SONG AT THE HOTTEST BOTTLE SERVICE CLUB IN CHICAGO AND GOT FIRED… YOU OWE ME $3000 BRO
Man, I’m a dude from the younger generation and have only been spinning for the last 3 years, but I have sooooo much respect for the “old school” way of doing things. That’s one of the main things that I found so fascinating about the music and djing culture in general. The “old school” way of mixing (where less is usually more), the way of digging (where you actually spend time looking for tracks that resonate with you and not just go to beatport top 40 and download all of them). That “older” generation of djs & producers is just so fascinating and there’s so much we can learn from them. Great video RA, really really appreciate you shedding light on the proper way of doing things. Oh and when I say old school, I don’t mean like it’s old as in outdated or anything. You can tell that music had such a different impact on people, it was a feeling, an emotion, a way of expressing yourself. Not to say that doesn’t exist nowadays, but as most people can probably agree, there’s so much mediocre stuff out there now that it does more harm than good to the whole music industry. Forever grateful for all of the DJs & producers from the past for showing us all how it’s done. Absolute legends! Rant over. Lol
I GOTTA KEEP MY FINGERS DUSTY.....NO BETTER WAY TO DO IT! AND I DON'T LOOK UP ANYTHING BEFORE HAND, I LOVE THE ENERGY OF NOT KNOWING WHAT I'LL FIND EVERY TIME I GO DIGGIN'.
A part of what Vera is talking about is artists like Quest and Del Garda find a good nug they buy every copy. Slimey af. In their case though it's so they're the only ones that can play it.
@@InspectorSmeg That's absolutely disgusting, I have been suspecting it for a while with some of the records I've seen online - I could see on Discogs' sales history all of the last copies of a 12" being sold in a single day. Truly disrespectful to the whole community out there.
Complex is correct! I've seen a lot of elitism among vinyl DJs, I've also seen a lot of elitism among newer "only digital" DJs. For example ask a new york DJ what they think of Xone92s and they will complain endlessly lol. I think it's ambitious (and maybe a bit impossible) to fully describe the process of digging in a video, because I also think that all DJs (and music fans in general) are diggers to a certain extent, whether its on bandcamp or soundcloud or discogs or whatever. Digging is really just that, it's digging deeper into new areas of virtual and physical music. It's also talking to your friends and other DJs about music. That could have been nice to explore a bit in this video, I think the video over-emphasizes digging as something "reserved" for the nu-minimal/mudd show/vinyl heads but in reality thats not the full scope really. Digging is the personal part of DJing for me, its where I get excited about discovering new music, and yes people can take their possessiveness too far when it comes to discovering stuff. But I do think it's a pretty beautiful thing in general.
they will complain - and rightfully so. to me, as a vinyl dj for 25+ years, it is a totally useless piece of equipment. just doesn't fit my style of mixing at all.
To be a good DJ, yes. To be a successful DJ, often no. Being a successful DJ today is largely about optics, business, and who you know - not your skills and knowledge. Most crowds are satisfied with pretty minimal effort and bringing the low-end back at the right moment.
The golden age of djing is over, in order to fully experience you would need a time machine, when there where no smart phones digital controller, Djs where creating magic, with the most basic of equipment two records turtables and a mixer
I used to go to Trade every week and would ask the DJ what he just played and write it down (with a pencil, lol). If I was quick I'd usually find it that week in Soho. Many had just dropped on white label or promo so usually only a few hundred of that release were pressed. Some later went out on general release or Maxi, compilations, etc. Does anyone remember Digital Domain on Rabbid City Records 003, or Observing The Earth by Dyewitness, or He never Lost His Hardcore by NRG?
This Video makes me want to get back in to music and purchase a few technics sl 1200's Gemini 626 mixer and - well 2000 or so records again... and do it all over!! with a better state of mind!
Iv spent 20 years looking for a track and i just cant find the id of it,iv tryed shazzam and it doesnt recognise it and iv shared it and nobodys knows but some day il find it
Algo digging is still digging in my eyes. I've got a few different ones I run 8 hours a day while I work and you still have to deal with listening to 99 duds before you find a decent song. It'll recommend music but that doesn't mean it's all good lol. Still, much more satisfying to find that gem at your local record store.
To add to this, I think the proliferation of CDJs has also homogenised the scene and vinyl represents a serious step up in terms of dedication to your own unique sound.
This is a fabulous short film about a very interesting topic. The 90's were incredible in so many ways. The machines dictated the sound to some extent, but as Duvanté said it, they were pushed to its limits and used in ways they were never attended. Music these days sounds often so much better, but just as often so much worse than in the 90's. We can't put the genie back in the bottle and there's no need for it, but I'm glad I got my electronic music start in the 90's.
Are you glad you started with good music to end up with festival-trance :D?
@@lcaise no need for this comment, Muppet
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it was always the least amount of equipment you had you had to get the most out of it. and that was the magic. j. swinsco (cinematic orchestra) made the lp 'motion' with an mpc and a zip drive. burial's first 2 releases with soundforge etc.
@@lcaise remind everyone again how many times you played at fabric or trouw or really any big name club?
Djing has become less and less about the most important element of it, an active passion (obsession) for music. It’s not about pleasing a crowd, it’s about playing music that means something to you that you honestly believe in.
Curating a journey of a set is more important than the individual records. Doesn't matter how rare or exclusive the records are. The same records in different hands will yield a different experience. That is the art of it.
90's records are so loved, because the music was raw and simple and easy to groove to. No fancy studios, no super sterile recording techniques, no artists bisecting every bass drum and clap for an hour on UA-cam. Just simple instruments and some feeling...
But those 90's records wouldnt be unique as it were if werent for those of the 80's and 70's as well
This was a good little documentary on the current house/techno digging scene. However, I can't help but feel the topic deserves a longer documentary, with a wider lens that covers all the different music digging scenes around the world and the history of collecting rare records.
Many DJs were still playing the same records as each other back then just as now. There were less releases back then and less crap due to costs and record label gate keepers but nevertheless many DJs particularly in the UK all played very similar sets as each other in their respective genres. There were only so many imports that arrived on the UK shores each week and as soon as something became big , every big DJ had a copy. It is nice to see old tracks get a revival with todays DJs, providing they dont be snobs and hide the tracks from fans wanting an ID. Music is for sharing
Absolutely spot on
Hiding your records ain’t being a snob it’s a hip hop thing from way back. Busting your ass off to identify a track and then searching and listening involving travelling to different towns or cities to find a copy before internet.
Why am I going to pass that time and knowledge to someone for nothing so they can get props for my digging efforts.
In the clubs but illegal dances and parties underground uk tunes from the earlier part of the 90s was diverse inventive and prolific . Of course many tunes crossed over and became big .
"less releases back then and less crap due to costs and record label gate keepers" there was a lot of absolute shite too, it's just no-one remembers them
@iteamy i know, i use to have to sell the crap in the shop i worked at 😅
Crate digging has not stopped in the current day, your skills for crate digging work just as well with digital files online as it does with vinyl in a record shop. In fact I would say most of a DJs time is spent crate digging and listening to tracks in order to build up their library and create their "unique sound". Thankfully we have much more efficient tools today to help us with crate digging and music discovery online.
Absolutely! My collection wouldn't be anywhere near what it is if I had everything in a physical copy. Thankfully I'm content with any form of lossless digital files, so aside from a cd collection from my youth, and a smattering of records, I'm able to have it all on a NAS system, instead of a triple bay garage.
I've many many times recognized what a gift it is to be able to jump on a computer whenever you want and track something down, with the access to music we have.
I can relate so much with everything Vera said. Good music is good music, regardless of the genre and regardless of how expensive it is. And good music should be shared, there are countless UA-cam "digger" channels publishing 90s music that contributed and still contribute to this scene.
As someone who resides in Brasil it is mostly impossibile to dig for 90s/Early 2000s electronic music records so I must do much of it online. It saddens me that in order for me to buy vinyls and have a collection I must raise so much money. Shipping prices on discogs are just too much also.
Consider yourselves priviledged to have such access to a goldmine of records and equipment at realistic prices.
Great video, loved it!
Cheers
I have been digging and digging my ass of in the 90’s and 2000’s. Going to the best stores in my country from morning till closing time. When I made a city trip to other countries there was always a day that you could only find me in record stores. Now I’m almost 50 years and I still spend at least 10 hours a week looking for new music. But I do it on my phone or laptop and buy it digital. My back likes me more and I can search when and where I want. Thank you technology 🎉🎉🎉.
The part I love the most about making my sets is going into this rabbit hole, finding artists and songs I've never heard of before, those hidden gems I'm excited to share with others
A DJ should entertain the people with a nice selection of new and old music , make them dance, make them happy and creat a feeling which many can agree on. In my opinion that’s much more important then finding the most secret weapon which nobody else have.
I agree in Vera’s statements. Good video RA! 🙏🏻
Every good DJ should search for music endessly, nothing beats the sensation of finding that secret weapon.
Especially when you have multiple ones!
And mixing it in the first time ❤
Those days have e gone. Shazam killed it.
@@southwestkinema9149 shazam doesn't recognise a lot of music
Big ups to Vinyl Exchange on Oldham Street for feeding my digging addiction throughout the 00s allowing me first access to all the new promos every single Saturday. Nowadays I dig on Discogs and still find gems I’d forgotten and many I missed on release particularly in the 90s when my mind was elsewhere or on another planet in the clubs; track IDs didn’t mater then.
I was a 12” buyer in the 90’s in LA. Our store Beat Non Stop was epic. The amount of records I collected from there is invaluable! I’ll never get rid them. I’m a digger forever!
I worked in London in the nineties and was given so many promos as part of my jobs in the industry...sadly gave so many of them away a few years ago ...still kept the standout tracks and got to work with some really great artists..happy days
90s music was so raw.
Its more that most of today's music is too over produced and sterile.
My manz Titonton Duvante, love you! 😊
It’s telling that todays djs don’t know the roots of their music to the point that it seems special to know the roots. One should love and respect your music scene and in so love and respect the roots of your music.
I’m glad I was buying records at the end of the 80s / early 90s, there were no rules! Simpler times for sure, but it’s great that today’s young DJs are still discovering the music that we equally discovered back in the day.
I was buying wax up until 2008. Sometimes on discogs. It's crazy how all those records I bought and played in the 90's early 00's are now again slaying the dance floor as hard as when they came out. I only started playing them again in the last 2 years. I had to wait for the Disco and Warehouse rave sound to wind it's way down with the tastemakers. Bc I knew the 90's and early 00's house and tech was on the horizon next. And here we are now. 20 year olds playing records older than themselves. It's all a good thing in my book. That is why my radio show is named "Nu Memories" on Jolt Radio
Same here. Stopped buying records or ‘digging’ around early to mid 2000s - all my kit for some reason ended up staying in my parents shed for well over a decade. It wasn’t until a couple of years ago I retrieved my 1210s synths and drum machines etc…and this particular shed had been broken into several times 😅
Many of my records are with me, many I lent to friends and will never be seen again. but most are in my parents damp, damp basement - stacks and stacks of 90s techno, house, minimal, hiphop, jazz and everything in between. I’ve kind of turned a blind eye to them being there because the last time I peered at them, probably around 2009, I saw the state of them. Mouldy and unloved.
After watching this, I must make the effort to salvage and clean what I can. (Sorry for the essay on your post)
I think an issue over looked here is that big DJs play unreleased tracks up and down till everybody has overheard them when they actually come out.
So it’s quite difficult to generate an own sound by playing new releases so naturally you‘d turn your head to the past to maybe rediscover a forgotten gem.
100 percent
In the mid-90s when I first taught myself to DJ, the only direction you had were DJ mixes like Renaissance, Essential Mixes, and Global Underground. Hunting down those tracks was at least a starting point, and from there you would branch out to other releases from those labels or other tracks from those artists. There is so much access to underground dance music now, but it still blows my mind that there are so many unknown IDs from the 90's from past live mixes that have resurfaced.
UA-cam premium is great for dishing out new gems to me, regardless of their popularity
I don't use premium, yet I am still here o.O
Guess the algorithm that tries to keep you entertained based on your preferences hasn't much to do with a paid model, since YT wants to keep everyone on their platform anyway lol
@@hoozn UA-cam Premium is better still. It's at least a level beyond.
I think it's cool that Vera says it's about the music not about who played how often or how known it is. But I also gotta admit when I hear somebody play high quality tunes that I (as a digger) don't know at all like onur özer for example I have an amazing night everytime so i cannot say anything negative about this.
Paramida said, you can play anything at any time, in the right context. That is the magic of DJ-ing and being a good digger
King Onur! 💥
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What’s great about Onur too is that he picks up music from all over - new stuff, dance tracks from non-dance labels, other unexpected places
I firmly believe it's better for DJ's to be open about what artists they're spinning. Sharing the knowledge is much more a Positive than a negative thing.
True words from Vera, love how she stays positive overall ❤
As a Romanian I feel the need to correct you - Sunwaves is taking place at the seaside, not in Bucharest. And it is mostly focused on rominimal, tech-house, house,
This is without a doubt one of the very best videos that I have ever seen on this topic!!!💥💜💜💜👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
At the risk of stating the bleeding obvious…. Digging goes back a lot further than an interest in 90s house and techno. The Northern Soul guys started going transatlantic to root through dusty warehouses 50+ years ago, to the hip hop guys digging for breaks in ever widening genres in the 80s and 90s, us house heads finding our roots on lists of what Larry & co played then trawling the shops around the globe. The current digging of 90s house follows this trend of course, finding something new in the past. Kids digging for early drill incoming no doubt...
Came here to mention Northern Soul. The principle of "rarer = better" elitism certainly started there
Mod DJ's looking for rare R&B in the 60's, NY dj's like Mancuso searching for rare/obscure danceable records at the start of the 70's, Jamaican selectors looking for exclusive tracks for their sound system....@@easytoassemble54321
Totally agree. The linking of the word digging to strictly 90's music is one of those dreadful situations that precipitates misconceptions. Lazy and depressing.
Since 1991 my vinyl collection still grows today!
FULL ON RECORD GEEK!!!!!!!!! I LOVE YOU REAL DIGGER'S WORLDWIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤
Appreciate the critical notes at the end. Trendy Digger-DJs (for lack of a better word) kind of get into the 2002-2006 era now and buy borderline silly 12"s just for the sake of staying "ahead". The scene turned into an echo-chamber and the futuristic aspect of the music has definitevly been sucked out and replaced by unwritten rules to a members-only club. Rare or obscure records never made an interesting set by themself. One interesting aspect though: Art/Fashion seems to be stuck in this 20-year recycling loop for the last 15+ years. So, if you want to be a trendsetter in 5 years consider buying early 2010s house music (which itself was a 90s 'inspired' recycle period lol). It's just fucked.
This was fantastic. It's been a while since I had a proper dig, this has inspired me to get out there again.
I was particularly struck by the concept of "rarity being a commodity" - it sounds so similar to the ethos of the Northern Soul movement back in the 60s.
5:08 hes exactly right. Learn your own taste and represent your own taste and energy. You get what you deserve in art quality.
5:16 💯 searching and listening to what moves you is the way to go
Dope video, Moxie on the narrative front! When it comes to digging for me, I'm all about what sounds good to me and whether it give me those 'goosebumps'/make me make that stank face immediately once I hear it. I can care less what's being played repeatedly by various DJs, its all about if I like it, and if its something I'll listen to outside of just playing it at a gig. If its on repeat in my headphones before a gig, its in my set at some point during a gig!
RESPECT THE ART AND THE ARCHITECT'S OF THIS DJ THING, A LOT WENT INTO THIS EXPRESSION, AND IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING. IT'S TOO EASY GET ON THESE DAYS WITHOUT DOING THE ACTUAL WORK.
Shhhhh
:)
Its more addictive than any drug out there. Nice video!
so true!
Heroin and fentanyl would like to have a word with you mate
Hahahaha that Outernational Wah is a record which I covered up the label back when it came out. Was one of those tunes back in the day, seemed to be only in a select few DJs out here in California who played it at that time. Great little film. Big ups.
For me its all about the labor. I'm a grad student and there is still a sense that a thesis is not complete unless you did the labor of travelling, going to an archive, and sifting through junk to get to the good stuff. Good art is about process, and digging should be included in that.
well this has to be the greatest video i've seen on youtube in the last few years
The 1990s was the bomb. I grew up in that decade. everything from the Manchester groups to Britpop and the emergence of House and Tech.
Discogs definitely changed everything. It certainly inflated the value of my record collection by a few hundred percent.
does that technically mean, you give me 4000$ for sending me your collection?
i love discogs but man the scalpers can ruin it
discogs actually started off as a techno nerd site... ibelieve the first upload was a dahlback's 'the persuader' on svek. i was on that site helping a friend catalog his techno and house collection 17+ years ago. first several of those years there was no option for buying or selling and i don't believe a transparent 'have' and 'want' listing. times have changed for sure :)
Completely relate to what Gene says. I spend hours and hours a day digging . Using Spotify (beyond the algorithm), Bandcamp and SoundCloud. Used to be a vinyl dj back in the days, and digging was also part of that, yet a record store is already pre curated in some way.
There are people that are djs, and people that want to be djs.
Vera is talking about how back in the days they were looking into the future and now it’s going backwards? That means she’s not digging enough ;)
I come across insanely obscure, well designed and underground tracks by listening A LOT. Why would I want to play and repeat the 90’s when there are so many good tracks these days that carry a new sound. There’s an abundance of procurers and DJs, that’s a fact. You just got to dig deeper and deeper. Nostalgia is not necessary, the future is now. Talking about innovation but repeating what already has been done is the opposite of each other…
Full tracklist please??🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
In all honesty some DJs need to drop the idea of trying to get some exclusivity to stand out from the rest.
To this day I still memorize the monologue from Coone's "Words from the gang", and while some of the topics of it got dated over the years (ringtone commercials are long gone, being a DJ is no longer believed to be an easy way to get laid and barely anyone wants to be a DJ these days), one thing still sticks out to me that I feel resonates with the topic of this video: "If you're in the scene, being a DJ seems like a natural path to follow, and back in the day, DJs were weird people who like music in a weird way. Back then you'd have to be a NERD to become a DJ."
So yes, while not trying to gatekeep the different types of DJs out there, I do believe the real kind of DJs are those with a nerd-like obsession for music, the kind that only the known tracks aren't enough, that they feel compelled to dig through and find underappreciated/overlooked gems, but that kind I feel isn't the kind to hoard what they find like a dragon and instead wants to (again as a nerd) gush about their findings and show the world what was being slept on, and that's something I can resonate with completely.
3 min in & this Def summarizes my upbringing!
Thank you Resident Advisor 🎥 🖤
Back in the days as a DJ you needed the records. Even now i'm digging in thrift stores, record stores and fairs irl to find records that after al those years i'm still searching. Yes i can do click click and buy on discogs but somehow that isn't that fun. Sometimes i buy like everyone on discogs too i admit. But i'm still the wax nerd that i was 20+ years ago
yeah, what joe delon said. if you are good at your job you curate tracks from everywhere, telling a story of that moment or how you got to that place to play. it's like art, some people just bosh on tracks drunkenly and sound amazing that one moment in time. and that moment is talked about until the end of time.
i have sold on ebay and discogs but i have never bought a record from either.
Just gave away what I think was the biggest collection of Rainbow Bridge on the west coast. Such rare and incredible bears. Glad to see the new crop of diggers are looking back to the 90’s
I didn't know *digging* was a thing until i saw this video.
The 90's were an amazing time for electronic music.
Sunwaves takes place at the seaside in Romania (usually Mamaia/Constanta), not Bucharest.
Woaaaa this seems so COMPLEX
I thought I liked techno for years then I heard earlier releases from acts like Mijk Van Dijk and Takkyu Ishino and thought, this is real techno. Now I'm changing my mind again and thinking it's really more about doing as much as you can to create a hypnotic but compelling dance track all whilst sticking to a limited set of electronic instruments and effects.
When the talk is of rediscovering old tracks and re issues...the concept is around 50 years old...the northern soul scene did exactly this ..history repeating itself...just go out and find those tracks people...be on the curve..be one step ahead I was lucky enough to be on the pre Public enemy breakbeat days...my oh my some of the rare tracks we found in charity shops in the midlands in early eighties for 10p was ..now part of my collection..still got them
The adult equivalent of collecting rare pokemons.
I don't know... I think there's still enough forward thinking in electronic music but the pioneering days are simply over. It was way, way, way easier to create stuff that sounded radically new back in the days but there are still many artists out there who innovate and constantly contribute great new ideas and fresh vibes - just more subtle. And also it has to be noted that artists kind of perfected their styles pretty early on and this (now "classic") music still works extremely well today. What was effective back then, is basically still triggering the same biochemical reactions in a dancing audience today. Certainly the reason why it's becoming more popular again now, is still a side effect of the Covid-dark ages and most likey also due to the many serious crisis the world is currently facing. Escapism, the urge to release pressure and get away from it all for a few hours - raves are made for it, aren't they? A bit of rosy tinted (remembered or imagined) "better times" helps with that too.
We have the power to innovate. All genres have new groundbreaking music coming out all the time, you just need to look for it. I think the narrative of the dance music "golden age" has eclipsed but that doesnt mean that it stops there. If we think like that then music will regress into tedium.
I read that comment listening fred again - Lost Dancing 😅
@@marcop.525 I write this reply listening to "EXTRAWELT live in Brisbane at Strawberry Moon Festival 2023" ;)
@@felixfox8810 nice catch
Cell phones are great except for at the party. Without the distractions of cell phones at the party you're forced to be in the moment. That's what's truly better about the 80's 90's and early 00's. That one simple thing. No distractions.
Discogs sharks rubbing their hands together after this video
Interesting feature.
A few personal comments :
- it is a little late in the trend as the genres mentioned in here (techhouse, electro, minimal...) have now been quite rinsed for a few years and the current cool "digger DJs" (Quest, FDG etc) have long now gone into supposedly "borderline" territories such as progressive, trance, breaks, tribal, piano/italian etc ; and also way past 2000 as the electrohouse and electrotechno digging trend has been rising. More risky stylewise but often interesting also for blurring the good taste/bad taste line that was firmly established at the time. Also gives you an indication of who is a "real DJ" by daring to play "mediocre" records and making them shine like never. ie N. Lutz and F Del Garda play stuff that only they can make sound good, unfortunately for the many followers forking fortunes for records they won't have the vibe and skills to make sound exciting.
- the way these records are played and blended these days are nothing like it was back in the days, esp as all styles from back then are now accessible altogether (nobody had access and time to dig all available styles which meant going to stores in all global areas...interesting intw of Desyn Masiello on that topic I read somewhere online). Also you hear in current productions hints of many styles of the past but blended in a totally new dosage and mélange. Often excellently produced/executed, perfect dynamics, perhaps sometimes lacking a bit thrill/emotion for my taste but generally really interesting
- about the roots of digger DJs blending styles and taking risks imo : Derrick Carter, Weatherall, Harvey, Derrick May, Garnier, Doc Martin etc in the 90s ; Villalobos, Zip, but also people like Kittin in the late 90s/early 00s ; then Arpiar, Desyn...as far as I know Lutz only came with his own style less than 10 years ago or did I miss something? Exceptional DJ anyway.
- and finally check my @phunk_sub Instagram for regular digging discoveries :)))
I love getting bargains and finding hidden gems
I hate the elitism of some people with records. Where people fervently hide what they are playing, put stickers or tear off labels off records so people can't peep during their set. Music is for everyone. Music should be shared. I LOVE it when someone goes "that's a great song, who did it?" because I can then tell them and they can discover their new fav artist. Maybe that person is still producing, and has just made another essential sale so they are encouraged to carry on doing what they love.
I'm definitely a newer record collector, I also don't shy away from new releases, but I just like a bargain (shoutout to Rarekind Records 5 for £10 bin in Brighton)
Vinyl is more expensive, more annoying to carry around and often with poorer sound due to scratches, but I still love it, and the ability to flip through something physical allows me to connect with the music far more than reading text on a screen.
7:45 Could not have put it any better myself. The commodification of the underground scene sickens me. People are not buying records they love anymore, they are just looking at the prices and jumping on the hype train.
I didn't even watch this. A fucking 12 minute video about collecting tunes?
Damn. This was standard fucking procedure for kids who grew up pre-2000s and were into the underground.
Spending hours record shopping multiple times a week at multiple record shops was just a part of life for us.
a nigga like me just goes on soulseek and gets the rip.
enjoy your shitty rips. I used to do that and trust me, there is no quality control
Excellent video! Great job on this guys!
Well ironically I want all the track ids played in this video. Jeez they all sound amazing what the heck I’d be more focused on the background track over what they were saying
brilliant short film.
Track if of last tune? ...kidding
90s music sounds different because the machines we used really had quality audio conversion to it(Sound Mattered), example remember when everyone did not like the SP 1200 but then it became the sound of hiphop, your interaction with the machine you were working with had a soul to soul feel, another example, how that filter effect which was always there on the S950 captured the imagination of jungle producers.
Since the late 2000s everyone has moved to the computer, there is no soul when you working in the box, because everyday someone is coming up with a new app, and you spent hours with the mouse, this is why the number one search on youtube for bedroom music producers is "How To Finish Your Track". Human beings are Analog, our ears love variations, dynamics, constant hammering of pristine sound from CDj, USB, Laptops(god knows what converter is being used) will eventually make you walk away from it, but that does not happen with vinyl, because it is very dynamic and Mastering Engineers that cut all these records in the lates 80s until the mid 2000s had a lot to do with it because of the limitation of the cutting lathe, this limitation was finally pushed to the brink when we started trying to use extreme limiting to cut louder vinyl records, but for who ? Ever wonder why everyone who went to the Paraside Garage in the early 80s they said the sound was something out of this world, well they did not have the technology of the early 90s and onwards, so what was going on? I let you guys discover that, maybe watch the second DVD of Maestro the movie, that can really make the light bulbs go off in your head.
In this video they are talking about that if everyone has the same records then they sound the same, this is FALSE, this type of miss information does not help the new Djs. The modern day Dj does not really challenge itself, being a Dj means you have to intoxicate and put s spell on the people who have come to dance, you need to reel them in and then unleash the feeling you have inside on to the dance floor, so its BS about everyone sounding the same with the same records. No one will play them in the same sequence, no one will mix at the same points, the question is can you find the frequency to resonate with people that night or you just gone come in and play some songs get paid and leave because you are super star Dj ?
Lastly the Eurorack Modular world is giving you tools that no generation really had, therefore you can make your own sounds, so NO we are not going back, we just taking a small holiday seeing what happened until the next big explosion. The possibilities of new analog and digital sounds is just beginning, we just dont have enough young producers who want to put the work in.
Great Insert
Why only digging for 90s tunes? What about the last 23 years and before 1990?
No.
I prefer 1978-1985.
I don't disagree with gene, but as a listener I use track id's to discover new dj's/producers to support/follow.
Vera makes a stock market analogy, but it's really more like the real estate market. Landlords lobby against new housing construction (represses), while raising the rent on the limited housing supply year after year...
Hmm... but then again, the landlords (copyright holders) are not profiting off of the sudden rise in popularity, which makes your analogy a bit off as well.
After all, we are talking sales on a secondary market (discogs/ebay), not a rental business. And on top of that, pressing plants are overbooked for years now, so you have to be able to plan ahead, which is the opposite of the whole "popularity because scarcity" concept responsible for the rise in demand.
I have something to say to YOU, MR. TITONTON DUVANTE!!
One night YOU were playing and EVERYONE WAS DANCING! I asked you what you were playing. And you told me DAVID SYLVIAN!! I LATER PLAYED THAT SAME DAVID SYLVIAN SONG AT THE HOTTEST BOTTLE SERVICE CLUB IN CHICAGO AND GOT FIRED… YOU OWE ME $3000 BRO
You know what they say: There is people with taste, people with money, and people with the repress
Track at 03:00? Yes I’m digging while watching this doc on digging
Man, I’m a dude from the younger generation and have only been spinning for the last 3 years, but I have sooooo much respect for the “old school” way of doing things. That’s one of the main things that I found so fascinating about the music and djing culture in general. The “old school” way of mixing (where less is usually more), the way of digging (where you actually spend time looking for tracks that resonate with you and not just go to beatport top 40 and download all of them). That “older” generation of djs & producers is just so fascinating and there’s so much we can learn from them.
Great video RA, really really appreciate you shedding light on the proper way of doing things.
Oh and when I say old school, I don’t mean like it’s old as in outdated or anything. You can tell that music had such a different impact on people, it was a feeling, an emotion, a way of expressing yourself. Not to say that doesn’t exist nowadays, but as most people can probably agree, there’s so much mediocre stuff out there now that it does more harm than good to the whole music industry.
Forever grateful for all of the DJs & producers from the past for showing us all how it’s done. Absolute legends!
Rant over. Lol
regardless of your craft; defining your limitations will set you free
So the only solution is to keep on digging 💪
I GOTTA KEEP MY FINGERS DUSTY.....NO BETTER WAY TO DO IT! AND I DON'T LOOK UP ANYTHING BEFORE HAND, I LOVE THE ENERGY OF NOT KNOWING WHAT I'LL FIND EVERY TIME I GO DIGGIN'.
Good music is good music, exactly that!
Great doc, I can dig it. 👌
So, the techno scene became the northern soul scene 😂
A part of what Vera is talking about is artists like Quest and Del Garda find a good nug they buy every copy. Slimey af. In their case though it's so they're the only ones that can play it.
I've always heard that this is a practice amongst some DJs. Sounds v bad! But how do you know that these two do this?
@@tsveto_zar3806 I know a few people that are very close to them/work with them etc.
@@InspectorSmeg That's absolutely disgusting, I have been suspecting it for a while with some of the records I've seen online - I could see on Discogs' sales history all of the last copies of a 12" being sold in a single day. Truly disrespectful to the whole community out there.
Complex is correct! I've seen a lot of elitism among vinyl DJs, I've also seen a lot of elitism among newer "only digital" DJs. For example ask a new york DJ what they think of Xone92s and they will complain endlessly lol. I think it's ambitious (and maybe a bit impossible) to fully describe the process of digging in a video, because I also think that all DJs (and music fans in general) are diggers to a certain extent, whether its on bandcamp or soundcloud or discogs or whatever. Digging is really just that, it's digging deeper into new areas of virtual and physical music. It's also talking to your friends and other DJs about music.
That could have been nice to explore a bit in this video, I think the video over-emphasizes digging as something "reserved" for the nu-minimal/mudd show/vinyl heads but in reality thats not the full scope really.
Digging is the personal part of DJing for me, its where I get excited about discovering new music, and yes people can take their possessiveness too far when it comes to discovering stuff. But I do think it's a pretty beautiful thing in general.
they will complain - and rightfully so. to me, as a vinyl dj for 25+ years, it is a totally useless piece of equipment. just doesn't fit my style of mixing at all.
DJing is like skateboarding, to get good at it you have to be complete nerd.
Amen!
Skateboarding is like djing youve got to keep those wheels turning and not fall off 🛹
To be a good DJ, yes. To be a successful DJ, often no.
Being a successful DJ today is largely about optics, business, and who you know - not your skills and knowledge.
Most crowds are satisfied with pretty minimal effort and bringing the low-end back at the right moment.
The golden age of djing is over, in order to fully experience you would need a time machine, when there where no smart phones digital controller, Djs where creating magic, with the most basic of equipment two records turtables and a mixer
@@rosspalumboskateboarding is becoming the same 😂
I used to go to Trade every week and would ask the DJ what he just played and write it down (with a pencil, lol). If I was quick I'd usually find it that week in Soho. Many had just dropped on white label or promo so usually only a few hundred of that release were pressed. Some later went out on general release or Maxi, compilations, etc. Does anyone remember Digital Domain on Rabbid City Records 003, or Observing The Earth by Dyewitness, or He never Lost His Hardcore by NRG?
Observing the Earth Classic 👍
This Video makes me want to get back in to music and purchase a few technics sl 1200's Gemini 626 mixer and - well 2000 or so records again... and do it all over!! with a better state of mind!
@0:24 what is this record store called?
If you like this intro song, listen to the classic Scott Henry Time To Get Ill Volume 1 Fever mixtape.
the medium is the answer, it shapes everything it contains
Track ID at 10:44???
Titonton Duvanté-Swollen
I love digging for music. It’s the only way to dj
Track ID?
Iv spent 20 years looking for a track and i just cant find the id of it,iv tryed shazzam and it doesnt recognise it and iv shared it and nobodys knows but some day il find it
To find GOOD music you have to listen to a lot of BAD music. That's the sacrifice real diggers (not an algorithm) have to deal with.
Algo digging is still digging in my eyes. I've got a few different ones I run 8 hours a day while I work and you still have to deal with listening to 99 duds before you find a decent song. It'll recommend music but that doesn't mean it's all good lol. Still, much more satisfying to find that gem at your local record store.
@@randyscarborough9109what algo do u use? How does it work?
Before Dj's play with their ears, Now Dj's with their eyes.
Thanks Moxie!
To add to this, I think the proliferation of CDJs has also homogenised the scene and vinyl represents a serious step up in terms of dedication to your own unique sound.
forgotten and underappreciated records in the 90's? Shit, I'm old now. I've got a stack of house and techno from the 80s and 90s on CD.