You hit everything on the head with this video (no pun intended). The 250 larger size doesn't have the handle flare either. It's 100% something that should be there. Like your point with the Wiha long nose, same reason I don't use the Knipex long nose and I use the Wiha is it is slender but has the kick out on the handles to get good leverage and control. I had the 200mm twin grips and I sold them as they didn't do anything (for me) that I couldn't do with my cobras. I've undone plenty of stripped screws with cobras. I was hoping the new twin grips that just dropped were going to be more dialed in but all they've done is made the tip more blunt and larger machined area on the sides of the plier head. And new 3 part comfort grip handles with identification and tether options. I know how you feel about tether stuff lol
Thanks for the feedback. I was reluctant to jump on the bandwagon and just get them without watching other reviews and tell you about them but nobody really really seamed to be critical or uses them aggressively on camera. This was a fun video to make and as always my first true impression. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Tools And Tactics.. Those were designed for stripped or rounded fasteners. Very similar to the Vampliers version. Knipex has been around since 1882 and the "TwinGrips" have been out for several years. I did a comparison video of them and the Vamplier version 2 years ago. They are awesome!
I grabbed the Comfort Grip because I do not like the thin handles, especially on the 180 Cobras. Probably solves most of the issues you experienced. Great to see confirmation of their toughness, just as expected
Twin grips are cool after you already have other pliers like cobolt,pliers wrench,cobras,linemans (combi),side and front cutters,needle nose. Good stuff,but situational.
I carry these on my hip everyday. Compared to a regular slip joint pair these are much better. The extreme grip alone on these is worth the money and then you have the multiple opening positions as well. The head is more compact when closed and like you said the longer grips give you insane leverage! They are great!
Unpopular opinion but these pliers are kinda overrated. Yeah they're fantastic at extracting damaged screws, bolts and other fasteners which for the most part if you're using the right tools to begin with it's a completely avoidable problem. The twin grips are neat but niche, plus there are more affordable tools on the market like engineer that already offer screw extraction features on various style of pliers.
Well maybe you aren’t in the right field? I’m assuming you understand that a framing nailer isn’t very useful for a commercial electrician? Look, as a commercial electrician myself, the twin grips are amazing. I use them for roughing in bc they are perfect at smacking the knockouts in and grabbing and removing them. They fit in a tiny little pocket of my tool belt as opposed to channel locks that require the big open area of my pouch bc of the 90 degree head. My helpers CONSTANTLY break those little device screws off into boxes. Guess what? Twin grips pull those right out. They turn any nut or bolt I encounter either from the tip of the plier or the flat. They are fantastic and once you use them - completely necessary.
@shadygunshow lmao you can literally use lineman's or diagonals to smack knockouts that's nothing revolutionary bud also might be a controversial opinion maybe you should teach your helpers how to use a screwdriver so they don't strip out device screws?? Just food for thought...
@ I’ve taught 20 helpers and I’m not making anybody use screwdrivers anymore, it’s all impacts now. Wait til you get carpal tunnel and you’ll understand. Also, the grade of helpers anymore - they can’t grasp the things that are common sense to us. It’s very rare. I have one guy that I’ve tried so hard with - he’s a year in and can’t stop stripping screws and can’t read or operate a tape measurer. But he’s on time, doesn’t complain about anything and is still useful. The problem with diags is that your dulling the cutting edge everytime you remove a ko. The problem with lineman’s (which is what I used to use) is they aren’t as thin, precise or nimble enough to be anywhere near the twin grips. You have to use them to understand, if you haven’t then you just don’t know. I’ve never carried channel locks on my belt and now I’ve found something that does most of what channels do and some things that they can’t. You seem like a person who has problems with recognizing nuance.
@ oh and engineer pliers suck. They are inferior metal and can’t do anything but remove screws. I’m a Japanese tool guy too. Run vessel bits and screwdrivers. Run Makita power tools. But those suck I’ve owned 3 different types and gave them all away the twin grips are $30 dude. I got em for $20. Who cares about that price?
You hit everything on the head with this video (no pun intended). The 250 larger size doesn't have the handle flare either. It's 100% something that should be there. Like your point with the Wiha long nose, same reason I don't use the Knipex long nose and I use the Wiha is it is slender but has the kick out on the handles to get good leverage and control. I had the 200mm twin grips and I sold them as they didn't do anything (for me) that I couldn't do with my cobras. I've undone plenty of stripped screws with cobras. I was hoping the new twin grips that just dropped were going to be more dialed in but all they've done is made the tip more blunt and larger machined area on the sides of the plier head. And new 3 part comfort grip handles with identification and tether options. I know how you feel about tether stuff lol
Thanks for the feedback. I was reluctant to jump on the bandwagon and just get them without watching other reviews and tell you about them but nobody really really seamed to be critical or uses them aggressively on camera. This was a fun video to make and as always my first true impression. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Tools And Tactics.. Those were designed for stripped or rounded fasteners. Very similar to the Vampliers version. Knipex has been around since 1882 and the "TwinGrips" have been out for several years. I did a comparison video of them and the Vamplier version 2 years ago. They are awesome!
The fact it twisted a screw in 1/2 is pretty impressive.
Bro, you can borrow my tools anytime👍🏻... I'm just gonna need a brand new one back...
@@cblack1863 sounds fair
I grabbed the Comfort Grip because I do not like the thin handles, especially on the 180 Cobras. Probably solves most of the issues you experienced. Great to see confirmation of their toughness, just as expected
I like the feel of the comfort grip, more control! But I wanted a lower profile. now we know.
Twin grips are cool after you already have other pliers like cobolt,pliers wrench,cobras,linemans (combi),side and front cutters,needle nose.
Good stuff,but situational.
Yeah 100% agree
When you have a stripped screw, and the twin grips save you, you'll firget the handles ever bothered you.
@@qzetu yeah. That's probably true, but if they had that little flare out, they might be the GOAT
I carry these on my hip everyday. Compared to a regular slip joint pair these are much better. The extreme grip alone on these is worth the money and then you have the multiple opening positions as well. The head is more compact when closed and like you said the longer grips give you insane leverage! They are great!
I want flared handles... time to modify! Live?
@@toolsandtacticsyes
@@toolsandtactics and try twisting wires
You should do a video on koken and nepros ratchet.
He's an electrician with big hands, he has no use for those...and many others already review them; they're both great
@INFRNL1 if you're building struts to support conduits then yes you do need ratchets.
Lol probably tru. 🤣
Yeah I might check them out thanks
Twist wires with them
@@Owen-xw8cs lol? Ok!
Unpopular opinion but these pliers are kinda overrated. Yeah they're fantastic at extracting damaged screws, bolts and other fasteners which for the most part if you're using the right tools to begin with it's a completely avoidable problem. The twin grips are neat but niche, plus there are more affordable tools on the market like engineer that already offer screw extraction features on various style of pliers.
Yeah i agree for the most part
Well maybe you aren’t in the right field? I’m assuming you understand that a framing nailer isn’t very useful for a commercial electrician?
Look, as a commercial electrician myself, the twin grips are amazing. I use them for roughing in bc they are perfect at smacking the knockouts in and grabbing and removing them. They fit in a tiny little pocket of my tool belt as opposed to channel locks that require the big open area of my pouch bc of the 90 degree head. My helpers CONSTANTLY break those little device screws off into boxes. Guess what? Twin grips pull those right out. They turn any nut or bolt I encounter either from the tip of the plier or the flat. They are fantastic and once you use them - completely necessary.
@shadygunshow lmao you can literally use lineman's or diagonals to smack knockouts that's nothing revolutionary bud also might be a controversial opinion maybe you should teach your helpers how to use a screwdriver so they don't strip out device screws?? Just food for thought...
@ I’ve taught 20 helpers and I’m not making anybody use screwdrivers anymore, it’s all impacts now. Wait til you get carpal tunnel and you’ll understand. Also, the grade of helpers anymore - they can’t grasp the things that are common sense to us. It’s very rare. I have one guy that I’ve tried so hard with - he’s a year in and can’t stop stripping screws and can’t read or operate a tape measurer. But he’s on time, doesn’t complain about anything and is still useful. The problem with diags is that your dulling the cutting edge everytime you remove a ko. The problem with lineman’s (which is what I used to use) is they aren’t as thin, precise or nimble enough to be anywhere near the twin grips. You have to use them to understand, if you haven’t then you just don’t know. I’ve never carried channel locks on my belt and now I’ve found something that does most of what channels do and some things that they can’t. You seem like a person who has problems with recognizing nuance.
@ oh and engineer pliers suck. They are inferior metal and can’t do anything but remove screws. I’m a Japanese tool guy too. Run vessel bits and screwdrivers. Run Makita power tools. But those suck I’ve owned 3 different types and gave them all away the twin grips are $30 dude. I got em for $20. Who cares about that price?