It’s eerie how much this sounds, point by point, like a description of the state of Western politics today. I don’t know if I should be sad or happy that I enjoyed this critique so much.
Thank you. We can only fix the issues plaguing western politics until after we first understand them. Highlighting some of these often unspoken issues was my goal in this video.
@@alwaysgreatusa223 Despicable but honest and demonstrative, we are doomed. Thinking and knowledge would prevent it, but it's too late now. Brace and suffer; accommodate; many will surpass. Humanity will prevail.
This video should be played in every classroom in every State funded school. Churchill was the consummate politician. A warmonger who was trying to preserve Britain's colonial power.
I had my first issue with democracy at age 10. My aunt told me to “just let other people have a turn to be right.” Now, other people being right when I’m wrong, sure. All for it, I’ll take my lumps when I’m wrong sure. That everyone is supposed to get a turn though? No that never quite mapped out for me. What happens when evil wants its turn? Being right should never be connected to people “taking turns.” I’ll let you imagine whatever you want as “evil” but hopefully you get the idea.
In the realm of Thought, where ThinkingWest does reside, Adam's voice emerges, a critical guide. Democracy's dance, he dissects with care, Revealing its flaws, its burdens to bear. Dangers of democracy, he lays bare, Not to condemn, but to scrutinize and stare. A symphony of voices, a cacophony untamed, In the land of the free, where ideas are named. Might it be a plutocracy, a question in the air, Where wealth and influence play a perilous affair? ThinkingWest ponders, as the truth unfolds, In the corridors of power, where stories are told. The ballot, a sword, but not all voices heard, Power can be concentrated, a dangerous word. A plutocracy whispers in the halls of might, Where the privileged few wield undue might. Yet, Adam's aim is not to shatter dreams, But to awaken minds from complacent streams. Democracy, flawed and imperfect, he declares, Yet a system that, with vigilance, repairs. So let us heed the warning, the critical call, In the face of democracy, may we stand tall. ThinkingWest guides us through the perilous sea, Dangers of democracy, a lesson set free.
Tytler didn't articulate a very important point in his thesis, he only implied it. He says that voters in a democracy will constantly vote for politicians who promise them government largess, and that this leads to runaway government spending. The critical point he leaves out is that politicians will always promise that the proposed largess will NOT need to be funded by the voters themselves. The politicians always promise that the new entitlements will somehow be paid for by taxing corporations, "the rich", or some other third party. The current fascination with Modern Monetary Theory is just the latest iteration of this cost-shifting principle. The easiest way to remove the temptation to vote for these politicians is to have a flat-rate tax system, and to require any politician proposing an increase in government expenditure to also indicate how much everyone's taxes would need to be increased to pay for it. If everybody had to contribute to the cost of a new program it would give people pause about supporting it. It's a fantasy that this will ever happen, but still ...
Republics were VERY different from democracies historically, and “representative democracy” is NOT what republics are but democracies with extra steps. There’s a reason why republics were always small nations or city states, with tens or hundreds of thousands of denizens, and a vastly smaller portion being among the enfranchised (a la Athens). Republics and monarchies are so ancient and stable for this reason. (Donald Livingston has important insights on this.)
Money spent on campaigns do not magically disappear into thin air. Like all money, it is used in one form or another for the profits of businesses, and the wages of those businesses' employees. In other words, it is returned into the economy.
Today we have a Noocracy occupied by the Idiocracy! Much like the movie Idiocracy I am sadly the the World's smartest man! The majority are oblivious of their own vote... distracted with their national leaders who want to retain their power in the face of the fact that they would by majority prefer a leader determined by their intelligence rather than determined by popular vote! This means all your elections Worldwide are now irrelevant and instead you all trying to figure out who the smartest person so they can eventually take my place as the Noocracy Representative! Rule by the smartest is called a "Noocracy Republic!"
This video, like most other “critiques of democracy” on the internet, doesn’t really criticize democracy. It criticizes republicanism (representative democracy), which is only a type of democracy (and probably the worst type of democracy, since it still concentrates political power in the hands of a small group of people at the top instead of redistributing it among the people). The problems it addresses are a consequence of republicanism, not democracy.
Benefits for the citizens ? Where do you think this money would otherwise go ? If you said, that money will be kept in the accounts of the RICH & POWERFUL elitists, then BINGO ! CONGRATULATIONS, you are 100 % correct !
@@Quekksilber Some people are just born to follow. But more likely than being ruled by Aristotle, Alexander would be your Emperor, and you would be his sacrificial lamb at the front-line of his expanding empire of wealth & power.
@@Quekksilber Yes, but you are living now, and there are no philosopher-kings. So, you are more likely to be ruled by a dictator like Putin, Xi, or Kim.
@@Quekksilber Anyway, the larger point here is that neither in ancient Greece nor now in the modern world is the possibility of being ruled by an all-wise philosopher-king a realistic ideal. Ambitious and ruthless men, with no scruples in their unbridled desire for seeking power, are those most likely to attain it, when they are freed from the restraints of democracy. They are not philosophers, these men, they are tyrants and dictators who only care about their own wealth and power, and you will simply be their expendable pawn.
Democracy does not divide its citizens, they are already divided because they are individuals with their own thoughts, feeling and opinions -- just like you !
The United States is not a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. You do make some good points. In your explanation, you have confused two forms of governance and mixed faults of democracy and faults of a representative public together.
2. Democracy makes neighbors political adversaries and makes all issues political. BULLSHIT ! Neighbors under every form of government have differing political opinions, the difference is whether or not they are free to express their opinions. All issues that deal with how a society conducts itself and what obligations and rights citizens should have (think of the pro-life, right to choose issue) are political by their very nature -- regardless of the form of government. The difference is who gets to decide. An elite class of Overlords ? The Party ? Maybe, not your party !
Don't know why UA-cam recommended this to me all of a sudden but the video is intersting and I like the statistics. Sadly, your conclusion that all systems are flawed and democracy is still among the better and your politically correct and complient defense of the system you rightfully criticized destroys the whole point of the video and makes you come across as yet another NPC who ostensibly critizised something but finally - as always - sticks to "consens over truth" and doesn't offer much of a solution or anything besides: "yeah it's not that good but well...". Always standing in the middle and trying really hard not to fall out of the overton window isn't nearly as smart as it looks and defending something you criticized before definitely doesn't help you convincing people.
I understand the criticism, but I don't pretend to have a political solution. I don't think any political system is perfect. What's more important than the particular political system, in my opinion, is the character of the people and rulers - something very hard to improve.
1. Democracy is only as Noble and Reasonable as its voting citizens. But who should decide what is 'Noble' and 'Reasonable' in any society ? You ? So, you would give yourself the right to decide, but deny this right to others ? Do you really believe that you are more noble and reasonable than your neighbors ? Yes ? Well, the fact is they think they are more noble and reasonable than you !
How? The poverty rate in America is getting higher in Democrat states Have you not seen skid row? 😢 people love being poor because the government helps them! That’s not okay when working class people taxes pay for it 😢
Hi Salloomha, what do you mean by elitism? I am not sure why it's sad or disheartening to take a step back and think about potential drawbacks of our system of governance.
@@ThinkingWest Your usage of the terms “Rule of The Mob” which has fascist and elitist roots and is most certainly unacademic as that word means mobocracy or ochlocracy which are fundamentally different and contradictory with democracy. Your “critique” talks about the disadvantages of ignorance, which is caused by propaganda and capitalism and directed again by the same propaganda which had helped in its shaping. America’s democracy is broken because of the corporate capitalism of the government and the intended ignorance of the people (not the “masses” as you call them as if you’re some sort of a feudal lord or something) which is helpful for America’s state capitalism to work. Democracy as a system isn’t “dangerous”, it’s just that your country *kinda* sucks.
Classic case for a person who didn’t watch the full video and decided to engage in a fully reactionary way. The person who made this video isn’t advocating for another political system (like autocracy and totalitarianism) as a “solution” for the drawbacks of democracy. But of course the first thing your brain thought of is that they are anti-democracy. They are not. They are pointing out that the system isn’t perfect (which is totally valid) and that there are ways to improve it (like, further educating the public). . Stop sucking the status quo off and engage in some critical thinking.
Democracy is great, but small attacks can completely cripple stability in country- my main problem is that governments are too scared to make harsh choice for the better of their country at risk of their office being lost
Yes, politicians in democracies tend to favor short term, people pleasing solutions so they don't lessen their chances of re-election. This makes correcting course very difficult once a nation embarks upon the path of wealth redistribution and government handouts.
It’s eerie how much this sounds, point by point, like a description of the state of Western politics today. I don’t know if I should be sad or happy that I enjoyed this critique so much.
Thank you. We can only fix the issues plaguing western politics until after we first understand them. Highlighting some of these often unspoken issues was my goal in this video.
“Democracy is cringe, read some Aristotle.”
- John Doyle, Based King
Somehow, I am thinking Aristotle wanted to be in the ruling class, and not the ruled-over class.
@@alwaysgreatusa223
Despicable but honest and demonstrative, we are doomed. Thinking and knowledge would prevent it, but it's too late now.
Brace and suffer; accommodate; many will surpass.
Humanity will prevail.
Highly recommend Democracy: The God that Failed by Hoppe which outlines brilliantly the fatal flaws of democracy that can never be eluded.
Thanks for the recommendation Jake
YES
Direct democracy, or Fukuyama's representative "suicide"?
Can't share your recommendation, and I don't believe in God either.
This video should be played in every classroom in every State funded school.
Churchill was the consummate politician. A warmonger who was trying to preserve Britain's colonial power.
Doubtful the state funded schools would allow this kind of video.
@@ThinkingWest Wanted to add that the soundtrack is unnecessary and only annoys.
Churchill was another criminal butcher. Ask India.
Thank you for discussing this. The prevailing democratic orthodoxy is based on a lot of falsehoods and false assumptions.
Democracy is revered as a divine solution but is instead the cause of the most severe problems the World faces nowadays.
I had my first issue with democracy at age 10. My aunt told me to “just let other people have a turn to be right.”
Now, other people being right when I’m wrong, sure. All for it, I’ll take my lumps when I’m wrong sure.
That everyone is supposed to get a turn though? No that never quite mapped out for me. What happens when evil wants its turn?
Being right should never be connected to people “taking turns.”
I’ll let you imagine whatever you want as “evil” but hopefully you get the idea.
A light in the darkness, this channel is.
Imagine a politician that did not have to answer to the voters. Do you really believe he would use his time and energy to benefit you -- or HIMSELF ?
Excellent critique.
thanks 👍
In the realm of Thought, where ThinkingWest does reside,
Adam's voice emerges, a critical guide.
Democracy's dance, he dissects with care,
Revealing its flaws, its burdens to bear.
Dangers of democracy, he lays bare,
Not to condemn, but to scrutinize and stare.
A symphony of voices, a cacophony untamed,
In the land of the free, where ideas are named.
Might it be a plutocracy, a question in the air,
Where wealth and influence play a perilous affair?
ThinkingWest ponders, as the truth unfolds,
In the corridors of power, where stories are told.
The ballot, a sword, but not all voices heard,
Power can be concentrated, a dangerous word.
A plutocracy whispers in the halls of might,
Where the privileged few wield undue might.
Yet, Adam's aim is not to shatter dreams,
But to awaken minds from complacent streams.
Democracy, flawed and imperfect, he declares,
Yet a system that, with vigilance, repairs.
So let us heed the warning, the critical call,
In the face of democracy, may we stand tall.
ThinkingWest guides us through the perilous sea,
Dangers of democracy, a lesson set free.
😂😂😂 beautiful my friend 🙏
Great video. Love you stuff
Tytler didn't articulate a very important point in his thesis, he only implied it. He says that voters in a democracy will constantly vote for politicians who promise them government largess, and that this leads to runaway government spending.
The critical point he leaves out is that politicians will always promise that the proposed largess will NOT need to be funded by the voters themselves. The politicians always promise that the new entitlements will somehow be paid for by taxing corporations, "the rich", or some other third party. The current fascination with Modern Monetary Theory is just the latest iteration of this cost-shifting principle.
The easiest way to remove the temptation to vote for these politicians is to have a flat-rate tax system, and to require any politician proposing an increase in government expenditure to also indicate how much everyone's taxes would need to be increased to pay for it. If everybody had to contribute to the cost of a new program it would give people pause about supporting it. It's a fantasy that this will ever happen, but still ...
Republics were VERY different from democracies historically, and “representative democracy” is NOT what republics are but democracies with extra steps. There’s a reason why republics were always small nations or city states, with tens or hundreds of thousands of denizens, and a vastly smaller portion being among the enfranchised (a la Athens). Republics and monarchies are so ancient and stable for this reason. (Donald Livingston has important insights on this.)
I just subscribed, We should probably start looking over our shoulders.....
Hey yes, I remember this from Grade 5 social studies class. Good luck next year Son.
Aristotle said the best sysstem is polity, that is a mixture of democracy and oligarchy.
Tytler's description sounds a great deal like the pride cycle.
Money spent on campaigns do not magically disappear into thin air. Like all money, it is used in one form or another for the profits of businesses, and the wages of those businesses' employees. In other words, it is returned into the economy.
Before covid china had 4 times the debt to gdp ratio of the us and its only gotten worse in both countries
Today we have a Noocracy occupied by the Idiocracy! Much like the movie Idiocracy I am sadly the the World's smartest man! The majority are oblivious of their own vote... distracted with their national leaders who want to retain their power in the face of the fact that they would by majority prefer a leader determined by their intelligence rather than determined by popular vote! This means all your elections Worldwide are now irrelevant and instead you all trying to figure out who the smartest person so they can eventually take my place as the Noocracy Representative! Rule by the smartest is called a "Noocracy Republic!"
A central currency printing (inflationary thief) bank gives too much power at the top, creating the “Political Industry.”
Which countries are the richest? Totalitarian N. KOREA, China, Iran etc
R E P U B L I C !!!
This video, like most other “critiques of democracy” on the internet, doesn’t really criticize democracy. It criticizes republicanism (representative democracy), which is only a type of democracy (and probably the worst type of democracy, since it still concentrates political power in the hands of a small group of people at the top instead of redistributing it among the people). The problems it addresses are a consequence of republicanism, not democracy.
There is apparently no political adversity in North Korea -- they all 'love' the Great Leader.
Is this really what you want ?
Benefits for the citizens ? Where do you think this money would otherwise go ? If you said, that money will be kept in the accounts of the RICH & POWERFUL elitists, then BINGO !
CONGRATULATIONS, you are 100 % correct !
Almost certainly, Aristotle, Tyler and Durant would think they deserved to be part of the Ruling Class who should rule over you !
I would be fine with Aristotle ruling over me.
@@Quekksilber Some people are just born to follow. But more likely than being ruled by Aristotle, Alexander would be your Emperor, and you would be his sacrificial lamb at the front-line of his expanding empire of wealth & power.
@@alwaysgreatusa223 Nice assumption made. Armies where much smaller than they are now, so no, I most likely wouldn't.
@@Quekksilber Yes, but you are living now, and there are no philosopher-kings. So, you are more likely to be ruled by a dictator like Putin, Xi, or Kim.
@@Quekksilber Anyway, the larger point here is that neither in ancient Greece nor now in the modern world is the possibility of being ruled by an all-wise philosopher-king a realistic ideal. Ambitious and ruthless men, with no scruples in their unbridled desire for seeking power, are those most likely to attain it, when they are freed from the restraints of democracy. They are not philosophers, these men, they are tyrants and dictators who only care about their own wealth and power, and you will simply be their expendable pawn.
Democracy does not divide its citizens, they are already divided because they are individuals with their own thoughts, feeling and opinions -- just like you !
The United States is not a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. You do make some good points. In your explanation, you have confused two forms of governance and mixed faults of democracy and faults of a representative public together.
Seems like You don't know meaning of terms ,,democracy" and ,,republic".
,,Republic" means ,,representative DEMOCRACY".
2. Democracy makes neighbors political adversaries and makes all issues political. BULLSHIT !
Neighbors under every form of government have differing political opinions, the difference is whether or not they are free to express their opinions. All issues that deal with how a society conducts itself and what obligations and rights citizens should have (think of the pro-life, right to choose issue) are political by their very nature -- regardless of the form of government. The difference is who gets to decide. An elite class of Overlords ? The Party ? Maybe, not your party !
Don't know why UA-cam recommended this to me all of a sudden but the video is intersting and I like the statistics.
Sadly, your conclusion that all systems are flawed and democracy is still among the better and your politically correct and complient defense of the system you rightfully criticized destroys the whole point of the video and makes you come across as yet another NPC who ostensibly critizised something but finally - as always - sticks to "consens over truth" and doesn't offer much of a solution or anything besides: "yeah it's not that good but well...".
Always standing in the middle and trying really hard not to fall out of the overton window isn't nearly as smart as it looks and defending something you criticized before definitely doesn't help you convincing people.
I understand the criticism, but I don't pretend to have a political solution. I don't think any political system is perfect. What's more important than the particular political system, in my opinion, is the character of the people and rulers - something very hard to improve.
@ThinkingWest when 80% of the population has been dumbed down how can its votes matter
1. Democracy is only as Noble and Reasonable as its voting citizens.
But who should decide what is 'Noble' and 'Reasonable' in any society ? You ? So, you would give yourself the right to decide, but deny this right to others ?
Do you really believe that you are more noble and reasonable than your neighbors ? Yes ? Well, the fact is they think they are more noble and reasonable than you !
So, every system has its down and up. Democracy is stable and works well with commerce.
It's certainly one of the better systems we've come up with
How? The poverty rate in America is getting higher in Democrat states
Have you not seen skid row? 😢 people love being poor because the government helps them! That’s not okay when working class people taxes pay for it 😢
Only a child, or child-like person, wants to be ruled by someone else !
i would say not even a child would want to be ruled by someone else
It’s so saddening and sorrowful to listen to such a young voice spitting so much ignorance and elitism.
Hi Salloomha, what do you mean by elitism? I am not sure why it's sad or disheartening to take a step back and think about potential drawbacks of our system of governance.
@@ThinkingWest
Your usage of the terms “Rule of The Mob” which has fascist and elitist roots and is most certainly unacademic as that word means mobocracy or ochlocracy which are fundamentally different and contradictory with democracy.
Your “critique” talks about the disadvantages of ignorance, which is caused by propaganda and capitalism and directed again by the same propaganda which had helped in its shaping.
America’s democracy is broken because of the corporate capitalism of the government and the intended ignorance of the people (not the “masses” as you call them as if you’re some sort of a feudal lord or something) which is helpful for America’s state capitalism to work. Democracy as a system isn’t “dangerous”, it’s just that your country *kinda* sucks.
Classic case for a person who didn’t watch the full video and decided to engage in a fully reactionary way.
The person who made this video isn’t advocating for another political system (like autocracy and totalitarianism) as a “solution” for the drawbacks of democracy. But of course the first thing your brain thought of is that they are anti-democracy.
They are not.
They are pointing out that the system isn’t perfect (which is totally valid) and that there are ways to improve it (like, further educating the public).
.
Stop sucking the status quo off and engage in some critical thinking.
@@hristo_dmtv
I watched the whole video, and his arguments advocate for more centralised power even if in the end he sugarcoats with sth else.
@@ThinkingWest You'll learn soon enough to ignore the comments :)
Democracy is great, but small attacks can completely cripple stability in country- my main problem is that governments are too scared to make harsh choice for the better of their country at risk of their office being lost
Yes, politicians in democracies tend to favor short term, people pleasing solutions so they don't lessen their chances of re-election. This makes correcting course very difficult once a nation embarks upon the path of wealth redistribution and government handouts.