@@enriquegarciacota3914 personally I would love it rose faster. Could get some really sick moves with banelings coming in from the back or ultras. But I guess it would be too op then just in normal use…
I think you guys should bring back rooting for one of the players. I liked it when there was a HarstemFan vs. LamboGuy or whatever their names were and you were each sticking up for your guy.
In Brood War, I'm pretty sure you cannot have more than 1 building selected, and you are capped at selecting 12 units at a time (up from 9 in Warcraft 2, which was up from 4 in Warcraft 1).
Actually I if I remember correctly, you can select multiple buildings, but you can't produce with them once more than one are selected (either that or only the first building will do something)
I guessed 3500, the strategies were advanced, the macro was lacking, lots of idle time, they had good ideas for army control/micro but APM was too low to execute properly, around 150APM, fun game, gg
As a NA grandmaster I thought it was so funny they said 5000, I guessed 2800 lmao. They must think NA is just free grandmaster if you can not drop any mules for 5 minutes.
the thumbnail caught me off guard thought they could be silver lol. my guess was 3300-3400 d2. no macro while micro threw me off. but the engagements and base holds without overreacting was atleast dia
You can't group buildings in SC:BW and having a single one on a hot key is rarely useful, that's why camera hotkeys are so important in BW and why they click on buildings.
I kept thinking the zerg player was going to cancel the hatchery, that he was just using it as a distraction. I am disappointed. I would have actually liked the play if he had.
People have gotten better. Especially over the last 3-5 years, with b2gm, etc. Game has moved a whole league. What right now is plat, use to be diamond. etc
The raven has a lot of downsides. It doesn't fit into most earlygame builds as it will compromise pressure and safety. Then in the early midgame medivac count is really important, the timing of the first 2, first 4 and first 6 medivacs really matter in the options available to the terran and pulling ahead there and gaining tempo is really valuable. Then later on terran has to scan ahead for the zerg army anyway, especially against lurker so a raven wouldn't allow to not scan most of the time. There are some niche scenarios where a raven is arguably worth it for the detection. But in a standard macro game it will likely do more harm than good. Especially since micro is so important and babysitting the raven against queens is hard. If you trade worse than without the raven because of worse micro, that alone can make it not worth it. If you don't understand how big the impact of all these things is, I would suggest trying it out at a master+ level yourself.
They are difficult to keep alive on a faction which is already over-tasked with micro. At least with a bio comp. Any decent Terran in 2023 at this point is splitting, muti-dropping, etc. APM is a limited resource and using some of it to babysit an expensive unit many don't find worth. With mech they are more practical, but mech sucks. And in a super late game (for pros) with ghost/lib, you have infinite scans anyway.
i think you guys should try to guess for like some extra points who is gonna win after like 5 min of gameplay xD
This was fun. We definitely need more nydus flanks in our lives
Too bad nydus take like ten seconds to rise from the ground
@@Name-ru1kt it can definitely work against Terran then :P
@@enriquegarciacota3914 personally I would love it rose faster. Could get some really sick moves with banelings coming in from the back or ultras. But I guess it would be too op then just in normal use…
I think you guys should bring back rooting for one of the players. I liked it when there was a HarstemFan vs. LamboGuy or whatever their names were and you were each sticking up for your guy.
what an incredibly entertaining game, that was amazing
I really love this series. Each one is it's own kind of special.
In Brood War, I'm pretty sure you cannot have more than 1 building selected, and you are capped at selecting 12 units at a time (up from 9 in Warcraft 2, which was up from 4 in Warcraft 1).
to expand on this, many players do hotkey ONE gateway/barracks, and double tap the key to jump to them and then click on each building to make units.
Actually I if I remember correctly, you can select multiple buildings, but you can't produce with them once more than one are selected (either that or only the first building will do something)
I guessed 3800. I have very similar games at 3700.
But honestly, that was the most entertaining game in the series so far
Strategies can be impressive at this MMR.
I guessed 3500, the strategies were advanced, the macro was lacking, lots of idle time, they had good ideas for army control/micro but APM was too low to execute properly, around 150APM, fun game, gg
its crazy how much value this series adds to the community, these games by ordinary players are as entertaining as pro games, in a different way
That games was amazing. At minute 3 I was a bit worried it was one of mine...
Its possible that lambos guesses are getting better but then on top of the improved guess he is then compensating and enfing up further away.
That Zergling flank was really good 👍
I couldn't choose between 4100 and 3800, went 4100 and dayummm was happy to hear harstem go the same
These are some of my favorite yt videos!
Which grandmaster would forget to mule with 3 orbital commands for kind of the entire game?
As a NA grandmaster I thought it was so funny they said 5000, I guessed 2800 lmao. They must think NA is just free grandmaster if you can not drop any mules for 5 minutes.
@@TrippleDartBtd 2800 is low Plat (I have about that MMR on EU).
The micro and strategy here was way too good to be below diamond.
another fun video, i hope you keep making them
Lambo is getting further and further away every episode lol.
25:34 Frends? What is frends? Is it eatable?
lets goooo captn
holy crap this zerg was rage inducing. up 30 workers and does literally jack shit for 3 minutes straight
great video
Nydus Flank has to be top tier surely. This must have been poor exicution 😂
I thought of something like masters-league, but it was not a laddergame and both players were drunk as hell.
You can see Harstem planing his new video in his head... 3 raveger double nitus....
diamond 2
wtf was that guess Lambo xD
the thumbnail caught me off guard thought they could be silver lol. my guess was 3300-3400 d2. no macro while micro threw me off. but the engagements and base holds without overreacting was atleast dia
Awesome game and nice video, I have no friends but I hit the like button o7
You can't group buildings in SC:BW and having a single one on a hot key is rarely useful, that's why camera hotkeys are so important in BW and why they click on buildings.
Pause at 8:50, how the hell does this zerg still have a chance this game? Cabal at it again
I kept thinking the zerg player was going to cancel the hatchery, that he was just using it as a distraction. I am disappointed. I would have actually liked the play if he had.
This game could easily have been an IODIS, from both sides, and i would see their point =D
People have gotten better. Especially over the last 3-5 years, with b2gm, etc. Game has moved a whole league. What right now is plat, use to be diamond. etc
MMR in the middle leagues has deflated hard.
I've been mid plat for years, but used to be 3.4K MMR, now I'm 2.8K.
These are always good 😅
Lambo throwing so much shade on poor NA gamers - thinking they just forget about MULEs for pretty much the entire game in Grandmasters aha
I went 4000 mmr, very difficult game to guess though
Sadly I have no friends except for the algorithm, so here is a comment just for it
Y does every terran use scans (even pros), but not build a single raven. Ravens are so underrated and underused
The raven has a lot of downsides. It doesn't fit into most earlygame builds as it will compromise pressure and safety. Then in the early midgame medivac count is really important, the timing of the first 2, first 4 and first 6 medivacs really matter in the options available to the terran and pulling ahead there and gaining tempo is really valuable. Then later on terran has to scan ahead for the zerg army anyway, especially against lurker so a raven wouldn't allow to not scan most of the time.
There are some niche scenarios where a raven is arguably worth it for the detection. But in a standard macro game it will likely do more harm than good. Especially since micro is so important and babysitting the raven against queens is hard. If you trade worse than without the raven because of worse micro, that alone can make it not worth it.
If you don't understand how big the impact of all these things is, I would suggest trying it out at a master+ level yourself.
They are difficult to keep alive on a faction which is already over-tasked with micro. At least with a bio comp. Any decent Terran in 2023 at this point is splitting, muti-dropping, etc. APM is a limited resource and using some of it to babysit an expensive unit many don't find worth.
With mech they are more practical, but mech sucks. And in a super late game (for pros) with ghost/lib, you have infinite scans anyway.
as a gorilla, the more oonga boonga my army is, the less chance I have to mess it up. Scans > Ravens for that reason.
I guessed 3k, no idea how lambo got to 5k.
Is the lack of a link from this channel to your main channels intentional?
My guess: Master 3 ~4300
GG Harstem. I beat Lambo at least.
Yes I used to do that smurfing in bronze ROFL