I do it all! Depending on where I'm going and possibly what the temps will be. Hammock is by far the most comfortable for me. I have a Duplex and love it as well. I took it on the CT last year and it worked great. But no matter how comfortable the sleeping pad or even bed I wake up with pain because the pressure points. My hammock I don't have any of them. Also so much easier to roll out the hammock in the middle of the night to do business.
Warbonnets are amazing! I'm a hammock girl for the most part especially with the coziness of an underquilt in cool/cold weather but i do use a tent as well. Great review of all three! Thanks
Squirrels and Sasquatches need to be seen! That's why I hammock. It is more comfortable to me too. Tell Squidly my hammock setup (all inclusive) is less than 4 lbs. That includes my quilt. Great discussion fellas!
Appreciate ya Tim! Yeah, we found out that next day that the sound we heard was an otter 🦦. Sounded like Sasquatch to me though…but, so did the squirrels. 😬😂✌️
Hammocks are really coming around. Getting lighter is nice, and more refined with variety of styles. doors, flat bars and such. Now they have hammock hot tents too, that’s a real game changer in there favor. Being in the air puts you up in the heat and provides plenty of space for gear across the floor .
I have hammock camped in New Zealand for a dozen years. Mine is tricked out with titanium fittings and Cuban Fibre tarp with doors. Together with Down Quilts it is lighter than my old tent, on its own. Weight of tent, on its own 2.8kgs (I know there are lighter ones now but this was great quality a few years ago) - the entire hammock and quilts is 2.7kgs. The volume is also lower than tent, sleeping mat and bag. I have bivvy camped heaps as well - but at the end of the day - your on the ground and it is aweful to sleep on. The versatility of the hammock is huge! I can wake in the morning - lean out and boil a brew - and have breakfast in bed easily. I can lie down or sit in a super comfortable seat. You'll never get this happy camper on the ground again. All the best from kiwi land
We used to tent camp until we both got older and started having back problems. Our camping live stopped until a friend suggested hammocks. Now we camp all the time. We will never go back to tents. The only con I see to hammocks is it is a little more complicated to set up. But when we go hiking it seems so much easier to find a good hammock spot over a good tent spot. We have lots of rocks in our area.
Those were some good pro's and con's of all three types of camping. Here in Florida a tent becomes a modern sweat lodge with out heat and humidity. The hammock offers 360 degree ventilation and visibility ( Star watching ) if desired. I like a rain fly over my hammock and normally in the porch mode. It offers a lot of side visibility , ventilation and protection from the weather. It can be set up to catch the breeze or shield you from it. No under quilt for me , a self inflating pad about 3/4 inflated is used. A double bottom hammock protects me from the bugs , 360 protection , with a bug netting attached. My pack is suspended from either end of the hammock and protected by the rain fly. Best over all , I can hang where tents can not go , set up a dry camp in the rain. If it rains , no worries about flooding. Claustrophobic , Try a Warbonnet Blackbird with the sides pulled out or a Hennessy Hammock with the same benefit. ( If you can borrow one first to try it ). Those are just a few advantages from over 60 years of hammock camping. Yes , I do use a tent when I am forced to and enjoy every minute of it.
Good point on the hammock ventilation! I wish I had thought about saying that in the video…some choose one of the three, based on climate and part of the country. Appreciate it! Nice comment. ✌️
I used to struggle with being comfortable in a hammock. I added a ridgeline that runs approx 85% of the length of my hammock. It allows for proper “sag” no matter how far apart the trees are. Game changer for me. WAY more comfortable for my 6’1” 205 lb frame than the ground. You are dead on re the weight though. Its heavier than a tent setup when you maximize for comfort.
I like my Wanderlust 11 ft hammock, and I think it's the best overall option for Eastern woodlands. I've been in many places where it was challenging to find a spot with a footprint large enough to handle our couples tent, a Copper Spur UL3. I'm still learning the hammocking thing and definitely haven't perfected the hang or learned all the tricks.
Is there an "All of the Above" option? I have used each of these at various times and really enjoyed them all...because I was camping! LOL! But I have to say that our set up earlier this week. while truck camping, was the most comfortable. We looked like we were setting up a village! We had my teardrop with the gazebo set up over the galley. A 10x12 rainfly with a center pole attache to it, and two more pop up gazebos attached to the other end of the rainfly. I slept in the teardrop on the memory foam and the rest slept in their trucks. It started raining just as we were turning in at around 11 PM and literally rained all night, stopping just as we were getting up at 6:30 AM. One of the better nights of sleep that I have gotten in a while!
Ya I'm a tent ground dweller. I haven't tried the other options yet but I have not come across any reason to try either of the others out. And with the amount of gear I need to buy for everyone for a different setup I don't have the $$$ to just try something out. I HAVE held out hope that I COULD sleep better in a hammock because I sleep like doodoo when camping... but I don't sleep well at home either so I don't blame the tent!! Great insights from just a couple of dudes!!
I totally understand how hammocks can be limited but they are perfect for me. My current hammock is a single person setup with the hammock and enos whoopie slings. Finding two trees is the challenge, but once you do the setup is very comfortable for my back. I've tried ground setups and they don't work for me. This was a great discussion on all there setups brother ☺️🌲 Happy New Year 🎉🤠🌲
Great video guys! Some excellent points about each shelter type here. I'm a tent guy all the way and if it's going to be any type of heavy rain I'll also bring a tarp so I can do more under the "porch" mode when it's coming down. Great video 👍👍👍
Great idea to bring a tarp as well. I sometimes do the same, just to hang out away from the rain. Thanks my friend. By the way, I will be tagging you in an upcoming video. ✌️
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING yeah I enjoy being at camp so comfortability usually wins out 🤣 Look forward to the tag! I saw your post that your upcoming vid will be about your new gear! Looking forward to the video!
Tent ⛺ for me right now. For hammock, I have hard time getting in and out, especially getting out. 🤣 This year I'm trying to tinker with tarp/bivy combo. Happy New Year!🥳🖖🏕
Great points on all three, tent camping is the only thing I've ever done. I like a tarp as just part of the camp site for some level of protection from the elements while being out during the day. Never done a hammock, have heard it is more comfortable which seems true to me, but I prefer solid ground w/ a light padding under my sleeping bag. Great video, appreciate the explanations for each method.
My go-to is a bit of a hybrid. My top shelter, because you can never have too many, is my MLD cricket tarp with a solomid xl inner. This essentially creates a double wall tent with an open view to the outside 🤷🏽♂️
Good discussion Crow. It's nice to have the means to own each and be able to use which ever one is best for expected conditions. i.e. a hammock is not good above timberline, a bivy for cowboy camping, and possibly a tarp for emergencies, is best for the desert when chances for precip are low.
Here are some of my thoughts on the three setups that you may or may not have mentioned. Tent Cons: lack of versatility, you are at the mercy of the terrain. Tent pros the setup is easier and the learning curve is shorter. Hammock Pros: versatility in the setup and you do not have to blow up an air mattress. Hammock Cons: the learning curve is longer and there are lots of time spent adjusting the setup. You are limited where you can set it up. Believe it or not it is hard to find two good trees to hang from. Tarp Pros: versatility in the setup and you do not need a big footprint. Tarp Bivey cons: the cramped sleeping quarters. Happy Hiking!
Great comparison, and I agree with all the pros and cons, and it also depends on the person. I’ve been using the snug pack ionosphere Bivy on the job and backpacking. I still Cary it around now that we are truck camping. My only issue with hammocks is I find it next to impossible to change clothes while inside in a downpour. Happy New Year!
Good discussion of all the set ups but not so much to convince me to try a hammock, especially after just sinking a small fortune in the ZP Altaplex 😁. I do have a MLD Trailstar for those times when the weather's not right for skeeters but the Altaplex will be my go to set up for now.
Great info Crow! I have used all and a tent is probably my favorite shelter. Hammocks are more comfortable and smaller and lighter (in Summer). I always bring a good tarp for basic shelter in addition to the other means of sleeping gear. Of course, I use these items Moto Camping, so weight is not quite the issue of carrying gear on my back. Great video!
Thanks my friend! Love your channel. Amazing content. Appreciate you watching my video. I imagine carrying a bunch of stuff on a bike would be wild. Thanks again! I’ll be watching your videos. Crow✌️
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING Thanks for the kind words Crow! My channel is a work in progress and I have been striving to adequately show how enjoyable the rides and camping are. Hope you enjoy! Cheers!
Agreed on the Hammock thoughts - that is just a little too cramped for our taste! We are tent people as well - but always appreciate the different preferences for people and the thoughts behind them of anyone who chooses to sleep in the woods!
I am a tent guy as well. Perhaps if I tried one of the bridge hammocks I may have a differing opinion. I DO like the 'space' of a tent also, esp. when it is wet. Both of my kids are hammock campers and my daughter has a 'mini-hammock' that hangs below to get her gear, shoes etc. off the ground. (I am guessing it is a Kammok item, as most of her hammock stuff came from them).
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching my discussion. I want a pop up camper really bad. I keep looking for used ones…but, they are not cheap. I’m getting one someday. What kind do you have? Thanks again for coming to the channel. Crow✌️
As I motorcycle camp, weight isn’t so much of an issue - packability IS, though. My problem is that there aren’t always trees available to hang my hammock and tarp, so I often bring two flexi poles and two hiking poles so I can pitch the tarp in kind of tubular tent mode, and suspend the ends of my long and extra wide hammock as a bivy with its built-in bug net. This means I bring a mattress rather than my preferred underquilt (not enough space in the panniers to bring both). Oh, and I need a ground sheet, too.
That is a great idea to bring the flexi poles. That gives you a lot of options when there are no trees. Appreciate your comment Jonathan. Motorcycle camping sounds awesome. Crow✌️
Hi Crow missed viewing your videos but I have taken some time off. My wife and I always set 21 days in the beginning of each year aside. I didn't have UA-cam included but I have been studying more. Trying to keep the generic but I know you are getting my drift. Take Care and God Bless
I keep a tarp in my truck in case I need a make shift shelter in an emergency. For Camping I've always used a tent. Never tried a hammock. BTW I love Bankhead/Sipsey
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING I'm from lauderdale county. Joe Wheeler State Park is my old stomping grounds (and still is)... yall should visit JWSP if yall get a chance
Which cons? The weight thing is kinda misleading. Yeah you have a UQ and a TQ but in a tent you have a pad and sleeping bag which is more. They mentioned stakes, but you also have that with tents. Sure suspension is different but that isn't very heavy and with a tent most people have a pad which is more than suspension. The being afraid of being closed in to me is less in a hammock because in good weather I put one side of my tarp up with poles, to like a porch mode and I can see out. The bug net and hammock does create a smaller space than most tents but being able to see out is in many ways less encased.
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING it's not just this video I see it in articles comparing them all them time as well. You can tell when the person writting it is way more tent based than hammock. Overall it was a pretty good comparison.
I gotta say I'm just dipping my toe in hammocking, just getting the various components together and I worked out pretty quick there's a lot more weight and bullk to carry
Yeah, I agree. It is harder for me to get the weight down on the hammock setup for me. But, the mew materials from Dream Hammock and others really are getting the weights down. It is all the buckling and quilts that get me…appreciate your comment! Crow✌️
If you check out some hammock sites the ultralight set ups are very comparable to tents. I find a lot of the weight discussions seem biased, no offense to those who made this, but I see it all over. Stakes are needed for your tarp, but they are also needed for tents UQ and TP are pretty much a sleeping bag split into 2. But in a tent you also need a pad which you don't in a hammock. So insulation is less in a hammock. Suspension can be done for very little, many just use knots and no hardware and the suspension is less than a pad which is less than a tent. Then it's down to tarp/hammock vs tent and you can get very light there and get it close. With all things it depends on what you are willing to pay since ultra light is usually ultra expensive lol.
@@Derchlands Yes, I agree with much of what you're say. Throwing money at something makes everything lighter, but I don't think I'm ready to splash that sort of cash yet. I think the pricing differential as well as gear carried between a summer hammock setup and a winter hammock setup is probably vast. Probably best for beginners like myself on a lower budget to start out with a summer setup
@@AggyGoesOutdoors yeah 100% winter gets pricey. Those good down negative temp quilts are not cheap, and if you want a large winter tarp with doors, they are not as bad but they add up. The nice part is the modularity. Your hammock and suspension don't have to change, in fact if you like the big tarp and it fits within your summer weight, then you can use that all year and it's really just the quilts the change out. Some people for trials stack quilts instead of buying colder ones, not good for pack size or weight but if you want to test cold weather hanging, that is a solid option to try before you invest
Did anyone else's ten-year-old brain kick in and think exhalations was a fart joke? No. Um me neither.... Great video Crow! But yeah give an 11 ft hammock a shot! A good diagonal lay makes all the difference! Personally I suggest trailheadz but I hear drain hammock is awesome as well!
You my are correct. My bad. The tarp I use is 11 ounces. I’m looking at the Hammock Gear Dyneema tarp to purchase, which is around 7 ounces. I misspoke on my video. I didn’t add the stakes and guy lines in the weight. I typically, in this setup, just stake the tarp to the ground. I had to look back on my review that I did to remember the exact weights. I am no expert. Just a guy having fun backpacking. If you are interested in the review of the setup. The link is below. ua-cam.com/video/ztv6BI9x3rU/v-deo.html
I use both tents and hammocks. I prefer tents over hammocks. I am a diabetic and I have to pee frequently at night. Tents make it more convenient for me due to this health issue.
First time viewing this channel. What's the value of sitting there talking and pointing thumbs back at the gear? I would like to see the bivvy, tarp and tent setups they were talking about. This is UA-cam not a podcast app.
Appreciate it! Yeah, I hear ya. I appreciate the construction criticism. I will keep that in mind for future videos. Maybe I could have over layered video of the three setups as we were talking. I may use that in future videos. Most videos on my channel are not like this one. I did do a review of the bivy setup. I’ll put the link below, if you are interested. Appreciate ya! Crow✌️ ua-cam.com/video/ztv6BI9x3rU/v-deo.html
Pick your poison. Like you say pros and cons. When I take my tent I see lots of great spots for hammocks. When taking my hammock it’s just the opposite lol.
I do it all! Depending on where I'm going and possibly what the temps will be. Hammock is by far the most comfortable for me. I have a Duplex and love it as well. I took it on the CT last year and it worked great. But no matter how comfortable the sleeping pad or even bed I wake up with pain because the pressure points. My hammock I don't have any of them. Also so much easier to roll out the hammock in the middle of the night to do business.
Great comment! Thanks for your thoughts on this! Appreciate ya! Crow✌️
Warbonnets are amazing! I'm a hammock girl for the most part especially with the coziness of an underquilt in cool/cold weather but i do use a tent as well. Great review of all three! Thanks
Squirrels and Sasquatches need to be seen! That's why I hammock. It is more comfortable to me too. Tell Squidly my hammock setup (all inclusive) is less than 4 lbs. That includes my quilt. Great discussion fellas!
Appreciate ya Tim! Yeah, we found out that next day that the sound we heard was an otter 🦦. Sounded like Sasquatch to me though…but, so did the squirrels. 😬😂✌️
Great points and I love the delivery within a conversation. Rock on gents! 🤙🏕🍻
Appreciate it Mark! You will see the Sipsey before too long. ✌️
Hammocks are really coming around. Getting lighter is nice, and more refined with variety of styles. doors, flat bars and such. Now they have hammock hot tents too, that’s a real game changer in there favor. Being in the air puts you up in the heat and provides plenty of space for gear across the floor .
Good points! Well said. Crow✌️
I have hammock camped in New Zealand for a dozen years. Mine is tricked out with titanium fittings and Cuban Fibre tarp with doors. Together with Down Quilts it is lighter than my old tent, on its own. Weight of tent, on its own 2.8kgs (I know there are lighter ones now but this was great quality a few years ago) - the entire hammock and quilts is 2.7kgs. The volume is also lower than tent, sleeping mat and bag.
I have bivvy camped heaps as well - but at the end of the day - your on the ground and it is aweful to sleep on.
The versatility of the hammock is huge! I can wake in the morning - lean out and boil a brew - and have breakfast in bed easily. I can lie down or sit in a super comfortable seat.
You'll never get this happy camper on the ground again.
All the best from kiwi land
We used to tent camp until we both got older and started having back problems. Our camping live stopped until a friend suggested hammocks. Now we camp all the time. We will never go back to tents. The only con I see to hammocks is it is a little more complicated to set up. But when we go hiking it seems so much easier to find a good hammock spot over a good tent spot. We have lots of rocks in our area.
Those were some good pro's and con's of all three types of camping. Here in Florida a tent becomes a modern sweat lodge with out heat and humidity. The hammock offers 360 degree ventilation and visibility ( Star watching ) if desired. I like a rain fly over my hammock and normally in the porch mode. It offers a lot of side visibility , ventilation and protection from the weather. It can be set up to catch the breeze or shield you from it. No under quilt for me , a self inflating pad about 3/4 inflated is used. A double bottom hammock protects me from the bugs , 360 protection , with a bug netting attached. My pack is suspended from either end of the hammock and protected by the rain fly. Best over all , I can hang where tents can not go , set up a dry camp in the rain. If it rains , no worries about flooding. Claustrophobic , Try a Warbonnet Blackbird with the sides pulled out or a Hennessy Hammock with the same benefit. ( If you can borrow one first to try it ). Those are just a few advantages from over 60 years of hammock camping. Yes , I do use a tent when I am forced to and enjoy every minute of it.
Good point on the hammock ventilation! I wish I had thought about saying that in the video…some choose one of the three, based on climate and part of the country. Appreciate it! Nice comment. ✌️
Great discussion, guys!! Lots of good info here!! 👍👊
Appreciate it Dan! Crow✌️
Good overview of the pros and cons, guys.
Lots of good points there and some food for thought. 🙂👍🏻👍🏻
I used to struggle with being comfortable in a hammock. I added a ridgeline that runs approx 85% of the length of my hammock. It allows for proper “sag” no matter how far apart the trees are. Game changer for me. WAY more comfortable for my 6’1” 205 lb frame than the ground. You are dead on re the weight though. Its heavier than a tent setup when you maximize for comfort.
I like my Wanderlust 11 ft hammock, and I think it's the best overall option for Eastern woodlands. I've been in many places where it was challenging to find a spot with a footprint large enough to handle our couples tent, a Copper Spur UL3.
I'm still learning the hammocking thing and definitely haven't perfected the hang or learned all the tricks.
I’ll have to check those out. Crow✌️
Is there an "All of the Above" option? I have used each of these at various times and really enjoyed them all...because I was camping! LOL! But I have to say that our set up earlier this week. while truck camping, was the most comfortable. We looked like we were setting up a village! We had my teardrop with the gazebo set up over the galley. A 10x12 rainfly with a center pole attache to it, and two more pop up gazebos attached to the other end of the rainfly. I slept in the teardrop on the memory foam and the rest slept in their trucks. It started raining just as we were turning in at around 11 PM and literally rained all night, stopping just as we were getting up at 6:30 AM. One of the better nights of sleep that I have gotten in a while!
Great topic and lotsa great points, enjoyed it, brother 😊✌️
Appreciate it! We had fun with this. I’m just a gear geek…😂✌️
Thank you Crow 👍
😊🤟🏻
Hope you guys had a wonderful Christmas and have a top top new year
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching this my friend. Crow✌️
Ya I'm a tent ground dweller. I haven't tried the other options yet but I have not come across any reason to try either of the others out. And with the amount of gear I need to buy for everyone for a different setup I don't have the $$$ to just try something out. I HAVE held out hope that I COULD sleep better in a hammock because I sleep like doodoo when camping... but I don't sleep well at home either so I don't blame the tent!! Great insights from just a couple of dudes!!
Lots of great points , thanks
Appreciate it! I love this stuff. ✌️
Good info we are tent people free standing over trekking pole but we do have all 3 setups. Stay safe my friend
Great video! Lots of food for thought, I intend to do all three of these in 2022 to mix things up a little on the channel, all the best for new year 👏
Nice edit. This turned out to be a good discussion of the three options. 🦑
Appreciate you joining in on this Squid! Man, this seemed like yesterday…it was a while back. ✌️
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING almost a year ago.
I totally understand how hammocks can be limited but they are perfect for me. My current hammock is a single person setup with the hammock and enos whoopie slings. Finding two trees is the challenge, but once you do the setup is very comfortable for my back. I've tried ground setups and they don't work for me. This was a great discussion on all there setups brother ☺️🌲
Happy New Year 🎉🤠🌲
Great video. My age is forcing me to start to hang. I will miss my tent. But I have high hopes that I was wrong all these years. Lol. Like & sub. .
Thanks my friend! I’m still tenting. But, I see the lure of the hammock. Appreciate it! Crow✌️
Great video guys! Some excellent points about each shelter type here. I'm a tent guy all the way and if it's going to be any type of heavy rain I'll also bring a tarp so I can do more under the "porch" mode when it's coming down. Great video 👍👍👍
Great idea to bring a tarp as well. I sometimes do the same, just to hang out away from the rain. Thanks my friend. By the way, I will be tagging you in an upcoming video. ✌️
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING yeah I enjoy being at camp so comfortability usually wins out 🤣 Look forward to the tag! I saw your post that your upcoming vid will be about your new gear! Looking forward to the video!
Tent ⛺ for me right now. For hammock, I have hard time getting in and out, especially getting out. 🤣 This year I'm trying to tinker with tarp/bivy combo.
Happy New Year!🥳🖖🏕
I think you will like the tarp/bivy combo. It has worked for me well. Happy New Year! Crow✌️
Great points on all three, tent camping is the only thing I've ever done. I like a tarp as just part of the camp site for some level of protection from the elements while being out during the day. Never done a hammock, have heard it is more comfortable which seems true to me, but I prefer solid ground w/ a light padding under my sleeping bag. Great video, appreciate the explanations for each method.
Appreciate it! I am partial to the tent as well. Though, I do like my tarp and bivy setup a lot. Hope you are well my friend. Crow✌️
My go-to is a bit of a hybrid. My top shelter, because you can never have too many, is my MLD cricket tarp with a solomid xl inner. This essentially creates a double wall tent with an open view to the outside 🤷🏽♂️
Good discussion Crow. It's nice to have the means to own each and be able to use which ever one is best for expected conditions. i.e. a hammock is not good above timberline, a bivy for cowboy camping, and possibly a tarp for emergencies, is best for the desert when chances for precip are low.
Good points! It is all about the weather for me and the climate as for which one I choose. Crow✌️
Here are some of my thoughts on the three setups that you may or may not have mentioned. Tent Cons: lack of versatility, you are at the mercy of the terrain. Tent pros the setup is easier and the learning curve is shorter. Hammock Pros: versatility in the setup and you do not have to blow up an air mattress. Hammock Cons: the learning curve is longer and there are lots of time spent adjusting the setup. You are limited where you can set it up. Believe it or not it is hard to find two good trees to hang from. Tarp Pros: versatility in the setup and you do not need a big footprint. Tarp Bivey cons: the cramped sleeping quarters. Happy Hiking!
Great comparison, and I agree with all the pros and cons, and it also depends on the person. I’ve been using the snug pack ionosphere Bivy on the job and backpacking. I still Cary it around now that we are truck camping. My only issue with hammocks is I find it next to impossible to change clothes while inside in a downpour. Happy New Year!
Nice review of the 3 setups 👍!
Appreciate it! We had fun talking about this stuff. I’m a gear geek…😂✌️
Good discussion of all the set ups but not so much to convince me to try a hammock, especially after just sinking a small fortune in the ZP Altaplex 😁. I do have a MLD Trailstar for those times when the weather's not right for skeeters but the Altaplex will be my go to set up for now.
Great info Crow! I have used all and a tent is probably my favorite shelter. Hammocks are more comfortable and smaller and lighter (in Summer). I always bring a good tarp for basic shelter in addition to the other means of sleeping gear. Of course, I use these items Moto Camping, so weight is not quite the issue of carrying gear on my back. Great video!
Thanks my friend! Love your channel. Amazing content. Appreciate you watching my video. I imagine carrying a bunch of stuff on a bike would be wild. Thanks again! I’ll be watching your videos. Crow✌️
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING Thanks for the kind words Crow! My channel is a work in progress and I have been striving to adequately show how enjoyable the rides and camping are. Hope you enjoy!
Cheers!
Agreed on the Hammock thoughts - that is just a little too cramped for our taste! We are tent people as well - but always appreciate the different preferences for people and the thoughts behind them of anyone who chooses to sleep in the woods!
Great episode. Happy New Year.
Appreciate it very much! Crow✌️
I am a tent guy as well. Perhaps if I tried one of the bridge hammocks I may have a differing opinion. I DO like the 'space' of a tent also, esp. when it is wet. Both of my kids are hammock campers and my daughter has a 'mini-hammock' that hangs below to get her gear, shoes etc. off the ground. (I am guessing it is a Kammok item, as most of her hammock stuff came from them).
i use to always use a tent until i bought a popup camper and now thats all that i use...you def have a new subscriber and thank you for sharing 👍
Appreciate it! Thanks for watching my discussion. I want a pop up camper really bad. I keep looking for used ones…but, they are not cheap. I’m getting one someday. What kind do you have? Thanks again for coming to the channel. Crow✌️
Good show thanks
Appreciate it Willis! This was fun. ✌️
I just got a hammock setup. Haven't tried yet. Too much snow. Lol
Crap…hope for an early spring. 😊🙏
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING I'm in the PNW. We have gotten about a foot so far. And still coming down
As I motorcycle camp, weight isn’t so much of an issue - packability IS, though.
My problem is that there aren’t always trees available to hang my hammock and tarp, so I often bring two flexi poles and two hiking poles so I can pitch the tarp in kind of tubular tent mode, and suspend the ends of my long and extra wide hammock as a bivy with its built-in bug net.
This means I bring a mattress rather than my preferred underquilt (not enough space in the panniers to bring both). Oh, and I need a ground sheet, too.
That is a great idea to bring the flexi poles. That gives you a lot of options when there are no trees. Appreciate your comment Jonathan. Motorcycle camping sounds awesome. Crow✌️
Hi Crow missed viewing your videos but I have taken some time off. My wife and I always set 21 days in the beginning of each year aside. I didn't have UA-cam included but I have been studying more. Trying to keep the generic but I know you are getting my drift. Take Care and God Bless
That is a great idea! Yeah, fasting, praying, and being off social media…all good things! More power to ya my friend! Thanks for watching this. Crow✌️
I'm a tent camper and probably stay with it. I just like that I have my own room in the woods. :)
Same here Thomas! I have tried a hammock…nothing wrong with it…just doesn’t work for me.✌️
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING totally agree 👍
I keep a tarp in my truck in case I need a make shift shelter in an emergency. For Camping I've always used a tent. Never tried a hammock. BTW I love Bankhead/Sipsey
Oh yeah, the Sipsey is amazing. I grew up in Franklin County. So, it was in my backyard as a kid. I’m a tent guy as well. Appreciate ya! Crow✌️
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING I'm from lauderdale county. Joe Wheeler State Park is my old stomping grounds (and still is)... yall should visit JWSP if yall get a chance
Good stuff, I’m mostly tarp/Bivy, but tent sometimes. Never hammock.
Same here! I love me a tarp and bivy setup. ✌️
What watch are you wearing Brad? Is that a G shock?
Yeah, I love my G Shock! It is bomb proof. ✌️
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING I have a few and love them all, my favourite is my Rangeman
These are great comparisons 👍🏻 thanks for sharing both the pros and cons. Would've preferred hammocks till you've mentioned the cons.
Which cons?
The weight thing is kinda misleading. Yeah you have a UQ and a TQ but in a tent you have a pad and sleeping bag which is more.
They mentioned stakes, but you also have that with tents.
Sure suspension is different but that isn't very heavy and with a tent most people have a pad which is more than suspension.
The being afraid of being closed in to me is less in a hammock because in good weather I put one side of my tarp up with poles, to like a porch mode and I can see out. The bug net and hammock does create a smaller space than most tents but being able to see out is in many ways less encased.
Good points for the hammock setup. Appreciate it! Well said. Crow✌️
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING it's not just this video I see it in articles comparing them all them time as well. You can tell when the person writting it is way more tent based than hammock. Overall it was a pretty good comparison.
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING and happy new year
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I gotta say I'm just dipping my toe in hammocking, just getting the various components together and I worked out pretty quick there's a lot more weight and bullk to carry
Yeah, I agree. It is harder for me to get the weight down on the hammock setup for me. But, the mew materials from Dream Hammock and others really are getting the weights down. It is all the buckling and quilts that get me…appreciate your comment! Crow✌️
If you check out some hammock sites the ultralight set ups are very comparable to tents. I find a lot of the weight discussions seem biased, no offense to those who made this, but I see it all over.
Stakes are needed for your tarp, but they are also needed for tents
UQ and TP are pretty much a sleeping bag split into 2. But in a tent you also need a pad which you don't in a hammock. So insulation is less in a hammock.
Suspension can be done for very little, many just use knots and no hardware and the suspension is less than a pad which is less than a tent.
Then it's down to tarp/hammock vs tent and you can get very light there and get it close.
With all things it depends on what you are willing to pay since ultra light is usually ultra expensive lol.
@@Derchlands Yes, I agree with much of what you're say. Throwing money at something makes everything lighter, but I don't think I'm ready to splash that sort of cash yet. I think the pricing differential as well as gear carried between a summer hammock setup and a winter hammock setup is probably vast. Probably best for beginners like myself on a lower budget to start out with a summer setup
@@AggyGoesOutdoors yeah 100% winter gets pricey. Those good down negative temp quilts are not cheap, and if you want a large winter tarp with doors, they are not as bad but they add up.
The nice part is the modularity. Your hammock and suspension don't have to change, in fact if you like the big tarp and it fits within your summer weight, then you can use that all year and it's really just the quilts the change out.
Some people for trials stack quilts instead of buying colder ones, not good for pack size or weight but if you want to test cold weather hanging, that is a solid option to try before you invest
@@Derchlands Lots of food for thought there, I can see this being a big slippery rabbit hole I'm about to dissappear down. 🤣
Did anyone else's ten-year-old brain kick in and think exhalations was a fart joke? No. Um me neither....
Great video Crow! But yeah give an 11 ft hammock a shot! A good diagonal lay makes all the difference! Personally I suggest trailheadz but I hear drain hammock is awesome as well!
😂😂😂✌️…🤔. Maybe so! 😂🤟🏻 exhalations. Squidly always uses big words.
That paria bivy is 13 oz. How the heck did you get a tarp. Guy lines and stakes for 3 ozs??? Amazing.
You my are correct. My bad. The tarp I use is 11 ounces. I’m looking at the Hammock Gear Dyneema tarp to purchase, which is around 7 ounces. I misspoke on my video. I didn’t add the stakes and guy lines in the weight. I typically, in this setup, just stake the tarp to the ground. I had to look back on my review that I did to remember the exact weights. I am no expert. Just a guy having fun backpacking. If you are interested in the review of the setup. The link is below.
ua-cam.com/video/ztv6BI9x3rU/v-deo.html
@@ASTHECROWFLIESHIKING I figured . Just teasing ya. I'll definitely check out the review!!!
I use both tents and hammocks. I prefer tents over hammocks. I am a diabetic and I have to pee frequently at night. Tents make it more convenient for me due to this health issue.
Good point John! That is important. ✌️
First time viewing this channel. What's the value of sitting there talking and pointing thumbs back at the gear? I would like to see the bivvy, tarp and tent setups they were talking about. This is UA-cam not a podcast app.
Appreciate it! Yeah, I hear ya. I appreciate the construction criticism. I will keep that in mind for future videos. Maybe I could have over layered video of the three setups as we were talking. I may use that in future videos. Most videos on my channel are not like this one. I did do a review of the bivy setup. I’ll put the link below, if you are interested. Appreciate ya! Crow✌️
ua-cam.com/video/ztv6BI9x3rU/v-deo.html
Split here. One of us is a tent guy and the other is a hammock guy.
It’s all good! I switch back and forth too from hammock to tent… to bivy. Happy New Year!
Great information guys. I see you got this video down to about 10 minutes. Lol
😂✌️…that is one of my New Year’s resolutions. 😊🙏
I love my Hubba nx ,might be that you can't teach an old dog new tricks
I owned the Hubba. Great little tent. I haven’t learned any new tricks in a while…😂✌️
You keep referring to this piece of gear called a “Tent”. I’m confused 🤔. Why on earth would anyone want to sleep on the ground!?? 😉
😂😂😂✌️. Yeah, I think we were both drunk. Tents…😫
Pick your poison. Like you say pros and cons. When I take my tent I see lots of great spots for hammocks. When taking my hammock it’s just the opposite lol.
I hear ya! Yeah, ups and downs for each. To tell the truth…I actually enjoy my tarp and bivy the most. 😊✌️