BEST PUTTER IN THIS ENTIRE VIDEO IS THE SCOTTY CAMERON SUPER SELECT FASTBACK 1.5 . IT MANY HIGH PROFILE REVIEWS FROM PRO GOLFERS IT SCORES A 9.65 OUT OF 10.
My wife just bought me a Cleveland retrieve putter. Best putter I have ever owned. It is designed to fit in the cup and pick up the ball straight up. I love it. Rolls very smooth every time.
great review! love the look of phantom 5.5, would it MOI be closer to the mallets vs is it really higher in the high MOI category? would my current gamer, SC squareback be in the mallet or high MOI catagory? looking to upgrade for more MOI as I get older, cheers! PS LAB df3 or mezz max didnt make your list?
Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it. Yes the 5.5 isn't as wide a body as some of the higher MOI models so it will be a little closer to the Squareback you mention. LAB were invited to take part in the test in the same way as every other brand, we didn't receive a response. They have however since invited us for a fitting so we should have a video on LAB putter soon. Hope that helps.
I'm 59 and have had 6 low back surgeries so bending over is not easy. This retrieve putter is not just great for its design to fit in the cup without damage but the feel is butter soft and rolls smooth. Nice weight just a great putter.
The and one and only putter that will hole more putts for you, isnt the newest, isnt the most expensive, isnt the one being raved about BUT the one that you feel totally comfortable with in your hands ans d your stroke.. I have had many many putters, newest, best and others but always always go back to my 196th0 Ping Anser Putter l found why caddying at the Country Club in Brookline, found it in the bushes off the 18th green. guess the owner wasnt happy with it. Just had a new ping grip put on it
Nothing has changed in shape of putters from year to year. Let's be honest if you find a good putter stick with it over time. My current putter is over 15 years old, still rolls them in.
There are 2 reasons you miss putts. First is when your putt doesn't go where you were aiming. And second, you didn't aim at the right spot. I'd venture to say that the vast majority of missed putts begin with the latter, making the former fairly irrelevant, meaning even if you got a putter that helps you hit the ball where you aim it much more consistently, it won't really translate into strokes, because all it did is help you hit a more perfect shot in the wrong direction. Now, once you get very good at reading greens, THEN the better putter will make more of a difference. But that isn't most golfers. Certainly investing in a quality putter even as a beginner is a good idea. However, just understand that you may not realize its potential for a while. Who here has said "I just spent $200 on 'the' putter, and I am still 3 putting"? Manage your expectations.
I am still using my Ping Fetch putter that I picked up about 2 years ago. I love that thing. One thing I did do Simon & Neil was to add the Golf Pride Reverse Taper round grip to it about a week ago. The addition is proving to be wonderful. Hands feel more relaxed and stable and I am nailing more putts dead on. Couldn't help but notice that Cleveland has a very similar fetch type putter here. I was surprised to see that. :) As always wonderful review by you two golf sleuths !!!!! Thank you guys. Joe
I got fitted for a bettinardi bb-28 last year. Best golf club I've ever owned. I think they're better than the Scotty Cameron's I've owned. If you are thinking of buying a high end putter give them a try.
I've been using the HB soft premiere 11 and found it just as good as many milled putters at a fraction of price. It does seem weird to have the "fastback" style head in a mallet section, other than slightly longer alignment lines the cg locations and feel of the putters are very much blade style (toe hangs as well)
Thanks for your input Steel. Scotty refers to the Fastback as a 'mid-mallet with the feel of a blade and forgiveness of a mallet' hence the designation.
one reason you feel like you can't do data is because putting changes based on eye dominance. So left eye and right eye dominant players should each play differently.
Surprised the Mizuno MCraft didn’t make the cut I hit all of these for several hours and the MCraft 03 (double wide blade) with the heaviest weights earned my business. I previously owned an Odyssey Double Wide White Hot OG with the stroke labs shaft you mentioned, and cannot understand why anyone likes that insert. It feels completely dead off the face and controlling distance was frustrating. May I ask what you didn’t like about Mizuno’s MCraft line?
It's absolutely not that we don't like the M-Craft, it's that there are tons of really good putters out there and not all can be winners. In the real world the M-Craft are pretty expensive for what is essentially a very basic putter to create. There's no insert (granted not all golfers like the feel of an insert putter), the head options are quite limited and there's no hosel options to dial any specific model into your stroke. Agreed there are some nice M-Craft shapes, but virtually all top putter brands make great shapes nowadays. Hope that helps explain our thinking.
@@todaysgolfer I’d say that is completely understandable and I appreciate the response. At the end of the day I’m starting to realize my game was suffering from paralysis by technical analysis. Choosing a grip and putter I find confidential and instills confidence is arguably more important than whatever the tour pros are doing or buying into the flavor of the month technical improvements that golf club vendors come up with to sell new clubs. Not trying to downplay technical advancement but I’ve always gamed fairly basic blade putters, so maybe that is why the MCraft resonates with me and felt amazing in comparison
@@tonyrichards4741 We haven't been there ourselves Tony but we hear a lot of good stuff about Tour X in Wigan. They have all the right putter fitting equipment to help you understand how you swing the putter and roll the ball. Link here tourxgolf.co.uk
Is LAB not in here for any reason?
The only reason is they choose not to take part, they were invited in exactly the same way as every other brand.
Hope that helps.
What a bummer!!!!!
Too ugly and expensive haha....
Didn’t want to exploited by testing
BEST PUTTER IN THIS ENTIRE VIDEO IS THE SCOTTY CAMERON SUPER SELECT FASTBACK 1.5 . IT MANY HIGH PROFILE REVIEWS FROM PRO GOLFERS IT SCORES A 9.65 OUT OF 10.
My wife just bought me a Cleveland retrieve putter. Best putter I have ever owned. It is designed to fit in the cup and pick up the ball straight up. I love it. Rolls very smooth every time.
Lovely to hear, thanks so much for your input.
lol, I'm at that age too.... but I got the 8s. Picks up the ball on the backside.
great review! love the look of phantom 5.5, would it MOI be closer to the mallets vs is it really higher in the high MOI category? would my current gamer, SC squareback be in the mallet or high MOI catagory? looking to upgrade for more MOI as I get older, cheers! PS LAB df3 or mezz max didnt make your list?
Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it. Yes the 5.5 isn't as wide a body as some of the higher MOI models so it will be a little closer to the Squareback you mention.
LAB were invited to take part in the test in the same way as every other brand, we didn't receive a response. They have however since invited us for a fitting so we should have a video on LAB putter soon.
Hope that helps.
@@todaysgolfer follow up question, didnt you guys put the SC 5.5 in your "high moi" group, not the doublewide blade group?
@@home4ya It's still a high MOI putter, but it's the model within that category that is closest to the Double Wide category.
Hope that helps.
Tried the Cleveland and Wilsons today. Wilson won, and its less $$
I am very intrigued with the L.A.B. DF3 putter what are your thoughts ? no negative reviews on it great video by the way cheers from Canada
Really sorry to say we haven't tried it Addict. We're still trying to get LAB involved in testing, hopefully we can sort something soon.
I'm 59 and have had 6 low back surgeries so bending over is not easy. This retrieve putter is not just great for its design to fit in the cup without damage but the feel is butter soft and rolls smooth. Nice weight just a great putter.
Very well said Erick.
Leaving LAB golf putters out of your testing makes for an incomplete test. Should have included them.
They were invited in exactly the same way as every other brand.
Has Rory won any majors since switching out of his Scotty blade?
That's a great ?
Great question, we sense you know the answer.
To counter, which flatstick did he have his best putting year ever with?
The and one and only putter that will hole more putts for you, isnt the newest, isnt the most expensive, isnt the one being raved about BUT the one that you feel totally comfortable with in your hands ans d your stroke.. I have had many many putters, newest, best and others but always always go back to my 196th0 Ping Anser Putter l found why caddying at the Country Club in Brookline, found it in the bushes off the 18th green. guess the owner wasnt happy with it. Just had a new ping grip put on it
Thanks for your input Dusty.
Nothing has changed in shape of putters from year to year.
Let's be honest if you find a good putter stick with it over time. My current putter is over 15 years old, still rolls them in.
Putters you love are worth their weight in gold Geoff, totally agree.
There are 2 reasons you miss putts. First is when your putt doesn't go where you were aiming. And second, you didn't aim at the right spot. I'd venture to say that the vast majority of missed putts begin with the latter, making the former fairly irrelevant, meaning even if you got a putter that helps you hit the ball where you aim it much more consistently, it won't really translate into strokes, because all it did is help you hit a more perfect shot in the wrong direction. Now, once you get very good at reading greens, THEN the better putter will make more of a difference. But that isn't most golfers. Certainly investing in a quality putter even as a beginner is a good idea. However, just understand that you may not realize its potential for a while. Who here has said "I just spent $200 on 'the' putter, and I am still 3 putting"? Manage your expectations.
Thanks for your input Doug. 👍
Wrong pace?
@@neilsmith9398 that would fall under "didn't aim at the right place", at least for the purposes of the putter's influence on it.
Just bought the Taylormade Tour S DB 38in what a putter this is worth every penny
Thanks for your input Jorge, the S is lovely counter- balanced model. 👍
I am still using my Ping Fetch putter that I picked up about 2 years ago. I love that thing. One thing I did do Simon & Neil was to add the Golf Pride Reverse Taper round grip to it about a week ago. The addition is proving to be wonderful. Hands feel more relaxed and stable and I am nailing more putts dead on. Couldn't help but notice that Cleveland has a very similar fetch type putter here. I was surprised to see that. :) As always wonderful review by you two golf sleuths !!!!! Thank you guys. Joe
Thanks Joseph really appreciate you taking the time to feedback. The Fetch is a sneaky good putter too, hold onto it.
I got fitted for a bettinardi bb-28 last year. Best golf club I've ever owned. I think they're better than the Scotty Cameron's I've owned. If you are thinking of buying a high end putter give them a try.
Thanks for your input David.
I think it was a miss mentioning all of these double wides and not the Evnroll ER2 they just released the Neo that club is gunna be great.
The ER2 has been an award winner here at TG before Kyle, it's barely moved on since though.
Hopefully other manufacturers don’t work out if you mill a T with a circle on to the putter they can sell them for 600% more than what they do now! 😅
Evnroll er2 is the best blade this year IMO
Thanks for your input Kirk, the ER2 has been a really solid option for a good few years.
If a golfer is using a claw / saw grip with their hands, to cure the putting “yips”, what would be the best amount of toe-hang angle?
I've been using the HB soft premiere 11 and found it just as good as many milled putters at a fraction of price. It does seem weird to have the "fastback" style head in a mallet section, other than slightly longer alignment lines the cg locations and feel of the putters are very much blade style (toe hangs as well)
Thanks for your input Steel. Scotty refers to the Fastback as a 'mid-mallet with the feel of a blade and forgiveness of a mallet' hence the designation.
one reason you feel like you can't do data is because putting changes based on eye dominance. So left eye and right eye dominant players should each play differently.
Thanks for your input, we've seen some big differences using the same player on different occasions.
sc phantom 7 by far the best putter of all
Adam’s C groove. Great value that’s carried on from the the Yes putter, used by lots of major title winning pros in days passed.
Unfortunately Adams is not available here in the UK.
Surprised the Mizuno MCraft didn’t make the cut
I hit all of these for several hours and the MCraft 03 (double wide blade) with the heaviest weights earned my business.
I previously owned an Odyssey Double Wide White Hot OG with the stroke labs shaft you mentioned, and cannot understand why anyone likes that insert.
It feels completely dead off the face and controlling distance was frustrating.
May I ask what you didn’t like about Mizuno’s MCraft line?
It's absolutely not that we don't like the M-Craft, it's that there are tons of really good putters out there and not all can be winners.
In the real world the M-Craft are pretty expensive for what is essentially a very basic putter to create. There's no insert (granted not all golfers like the feel of an insert putter), the head options are quite limited and there's no hosel options to dial any specific model into your stroke.
Agreed there are some nice M-Craft shapes, but virtually all top putter brands make great shapes nowadays.
Hope that helps explain our thinking.
@@todaysgolfer I’d say that is completely understandable and I appreciate the response.
At the end of the day I’m starting to realize my game was suffering from paralysis by technical analysis.
Choosing a grip and putter I find confidential and instills confidence is arguably more important than whatever the tour pros are doing or buying into the flavor of the month technical improvements that golf club vendors come up with to sell new clubs.
Not trying to downplay technical advancement but I’ve always gamed fairly basic blade putters, so maybe that is why the MCraft resonates with me and felt amazing in comparison
Are Scotty’s really that good or is it a looks/legacy brand thing? New to golf so I’m just curious. I’ve never hit one.
Yes they are most consistent off the face
I've owned 2 and sold both. Very well made but as a lefty, they don't do one that suits me. Putting is very personal...and grip is a very big part...
SC California Fastback still worth to buy in 2024?
New or secondhand? Scotty's are always an investment.
Second hand.
But i just bought SC Phantom 9.5. The new one.
@@wawanpriyanto2273 Nice flatstick, not classic Scotty by any means, but so long as you like it and it holes putts nobody can knock it.
Where can you go for a proper fitting. One were you can determine if you arch or straight back and forward
Are you in the UK Tony? There's quite a few different places scattered across the country if you are.
@@todaysgolfer I live in South Yorkshire, but I'm willing to travel 90 mins.
@@tonyrichards4741 We haven't been there ourselves Tony but we hear a lot of good stuff about Tour X in Wigan.
They have all the right putter fitting equipment to help you understand how you swing the putter and roll the ball.
Link here tourxgolf.co.uk
It is slightly pointless if LAB putters are not included in the review.
They were invited in exactly the same way as every other brand, hopefully following the interest here they'll want to take part next year.