On The Hunt For The Perfect Eggmobile
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With something that heavy the only option is more skids. You need to spread the weight over a bigger surface area. The other option is wider skids, something 1' to 2' wide. It creates more friction but it won't sink in. Everything is a trade off. Love the videos. Really inspiring to watch.
Always nice to sit and have my coffee with you each day. Education and relaxing. Thank you.
By way of inspiration for the tractor turning problem:
look at skies,
look at the under pinnings
of snow machines and other snow moving equipment. [ log moving equipment? ]
Consider also how to use a ground hugging airfoil for your roof.
In Old England, fences were managed with a Style. This is a sort of a ramp-like bridge. Good luck!
a fantastic moment when the chickens when out to the pasture, we are enjoying your videos and hope to leave the city one day and get closer to nature.
I had a similar problem dragging another type of "sled structure" and my quick and dirty fix was to put two old snow shovels (without handles) backwards, one on each skid. Worked great! :)
Daniel Jonasson I was going to suggest this too! A regular square point shovel would work much better than his current skids. Most farms I've been too have a pile of worn out or broken shovels stuffed in a corner somewhere. I'd permanently attach one @ all four corners to help with turns.
With skids as you are trying to pull them and then turn, the turn will force the first skid to dig into the ground as the other skid starts picking up off the ground. Your chain has to be shorter then to avoid the skid to dig in. Great video but when you mentioned you would us the loader I taught you would hook the chain of the pallets and raise the end of the building to help you turn easier. As you stated the loader can pick up the side of the building very easily. Great videos and enjoy the ones where your brother teaches chainsaw use. Thank you Simeon for the great videos as all are very good to watch and your doing good for speaking English also. Continue the good work young man and enjoy your farming.
The three-point hitch should be able to lift a lot more than the forks can. If you shorten the chains you should be able to hitch up that way and use the three point to lift the front as you pull. We moved an entire wood shed that way.
Great move, nice to see the chicken entering there new home.
My 16 Bresse eggs are in day 5, 16 more days.
Simeon thanx for showing in an earlier video how the turning
mechanic worked in you're German breeder.
Learning so much on this channel.
I would put a pair of hard rubber wheels on the back of the egg mobile , then when you pick up the front of the egg mobile with your forks it will roll easier across the ground. It would not be so hard for the tractor to pull it around.Just a suggestion, enjoy your videos very much,keep up the good work.👍👍👍
If you have a giant sized ski/sled curve on your metal plates they will ride over the pasture without digging into it. 👍🏻 ... and if you make them a quarter-sphere they will slide sideways, too.
Nice design, but you may want to roll the front steel skids back on it's self so they cannot dig in the ground. Also loose the forks , and use your Bucket with chain hooks welded to the bucket. Lift the front of the egg tractor off the ground with your bucket and pull backwards John.
@ John Palmieri....... It would be better if he would just have slide plates on the far end of structure, have front end of tractor with added weight on the forks, then back the tractor to pulling end of structure and use the lift arms to pick up the front end of structure slightly and pull it like a trailer the unit will turn easily without ripping up sod, the weight of structure will aid in the traction of rear wheels and the additional weight on front end of tractor will keep it from wanting to raise the front wheels off the ground
Mine chicken mobile is smaller, one thing I did was incorporated a ski style skid under mine.
The runner ends have a 30 degree taper to the end , the sides against the ground are rounded off so no 90 corners on the lumber. Similar to horse drown sled, with all sharp edges removed so short turns do not bite into the land.
You could now build a L or triangle shaped lift for the front, one that when you pull on front side mechanical advantage would lift front of the skids.
Use short wide skis close to lift point .
My Father always said you do as the Swedish people do when you live in Sweden. I believe that your eggemobile is wrong for your Swedish Farms with rocks in the felds and narrow rock walls between fields. You live in Farm country and I'm sure you could find a old hay wagon that has fit between those rock walls for many years. And you have a Band Saw Mill that you could mill a 4 X 4 or 6 X 6 long enough for a frame for a floor for a Eggemobile. The old hay wagon has a toung on the front with tires your eggemobile would probably be pulled with your 4 wheeler. You wanted thousands of chickens in your eggemobile so when making your laying boxes save every inch you can save it will mean in the end you can put more layers in your eggemobile. And make your roosting poles so you can lift them up to retreive your eggs if you lift every roosting pole it will mean you will have more space to walk on. So build your eggemobile on a old Haw Wagon frame and it will roll easier and you can pull it 10 to 15 farms away with ease
I think and axle and wheels are in order. Pretty sure polyface farms mobile egg coop is on 4 wheels. It would move easier and put less strain on your tractor.
On the pipe I've known it as a 'spreader bar'. They also it for the same purpose of spreading the lift on cranes. If you were to make the chain hookup shorter from the tractor it should lift the front of the 'eggmobile' up from the soil and not dig in as much. Or maybe put a largeish board, 4"x5", across the end and use the forks to lift that and move it, in reverse. At any rate you just need to try stuff out and make it work better as you go to have it working slick as a whistle in a bit. That's how they got the Shuttles to go up and back in one piece.
A couple old garage sale snowboards would work well as skids to protect the ground.
The Front Skids are far too small to support the weight and torque encountered during moves. Also, a larger footprint will greatly help when things are soft and muddy. These are all the same reasons many commercial farmer now used "Tracks" instead of wheels. LESS STRESS EASIER PATH - People sould learn this too! LOL
It looks like a good design - maybe longer but much more narrow? Could you make something like very big, wide cross-country skis for pulling across the fields? Could you put some kind of netting or wire on the walls to keep out predators?
Maybe two or three smaller egg mobiles are better than one large one?
Simeon, you have the perfect attitude to accomplish your goals. keep at it. we are learning with you. bravo!
Great information in this video Simeon! Thanks for sharing your thoughts about the pros and cons of your eggmobile. I will be embarking on a pastured poultry adventure in the New Zealand spring, August/September this year . Love your channel and watch all your videos with great interest
Perhaps an easy technique to turn he eggmobile would be to lay some long thin boards on the ground where the skids will be moving and then use those for a slippery surface to move the eggmobile skids on. A quick lift with the fork lift would let you put those long boards in place on the grass to make the pivot effort so much easier. I think even a 25mm thick board would be strong enough if it was laying on a flat grassy field.
You would need a tractor that can handle it but the way I'd make it mobile is have the skid plates/wheels on the back end and fashion something in front to either pull or drag from; ideally with a ball hitch receiver so you could use a three point that you back up to, raise a bit and go. Put an axle and wheels on back and then you can go forwards or back without turning around.
A peaceful and informative video. Thank you.
4:05 Shoot it and hang it up, that's old school! 😆
Yeah. I'm a little surprised that's even legal in Sweden, tbh.
I'd be tempted to remove the middle one of the 5 lengthway sections to divide it into two even modules and run some structural beams across at the base to allow dragging the two narrower modules separately. Hopefully those might fit through the stone wall gateways. You could then place the two modules together as a single structure or perhaps place them separately?
John Suskowich (spelling?) has a very nice mobile egg mobile that is very portable. He also has the ideal chicken tractor. Justin Rhodes just finished a visit with him. That is one large building.
Judy Homesteader That was an awesome visit that Justin and his family had with John. Great info!
Great job Simeon! I'm sure you'll get the little kinks worked out. I always enjoy your videos.
Beautiful music this time!
You can still "skid" the whole eggmobile using the tractor, without lifting and driving backwards. Just take some scrap wood, like a dismantled skid or pallet, using the top and bottom deckboards. Lay the deckboards perpendicular to the runners of the eggmobile, then it will allow the eggmobile to skid over top, and will allow turns as well. It could be done solo, but would go quicker if you had helpers to pick up the deckboards after the eggmobile has passed over them, and re-place them in front of the runners to be used again. Sort of like using and re-using rollers under a heavy object, except just skidding, not rolling.
Love the Idea you have there/ Looks great. What I can see is that if you place 2 wheels on one open end and then lift the other end with the front end loader. You may have a better chance on moving around. Kind of like a wheel barrel with 2 wheels. Also the wheels can be put on only for transporting.
Great video!!!
great video, the learn curve of the farm. love it.
Great video !! Thanks 😀
Very interesting design! Love it!😊
You can read my mind -- I was going to ask you why you carry the chipper all the time... LOL, thanks for the explanation.
Nice, video Simeon!
well done!!
How about running beams across the ends slightly above the ground so you can pick the end up with your forks and drag it. I also like Simon Burton's idea to slice it into two smaller units. I don't think that you'd even need to butt them together. The chickens shouldn't care if it's one big unit or two smaller ones.
You need to get the lift point higher on the tractor so it actually raises the front of the eggmobile.
Well Done!!
nice work!
Try putting skids every 4ft (use treated 2x8) at 90 degrees of your 2 skids. That way you can skid longways or sideways and you will be braced at the bottom.
Hi if you put a wheel in the centre at both sides which are lifting the egg mobile of the ground by a few centimetres it should turn and move a lot easier
great video love the music so relaxing
Great vid THANK YOU
Love your intro!!!(hope you don't have plans to change it). I was thinking you need to put a bigger ski on the front of your EggMobile, so you can turn easier and bigger skis would spread the weight a lot more evenly. Another great video, thanks Simeon
Great vids, thanks for sharing...have you considered splitting the eggmobile into two sections lengthwise? Would each section be narrow enough to fit through your rock wall openings? You'll need to make 2 new runners and columns to take the roof load but each section should be substantially lighter. One side could have a higher roof section that overlaps the lower, then you could move them one at a time and they would be easier to pull and turn as well.
Beautiful video, Simeon. Liked the pastoral music. I'll be interested to see how you re-engineer this to a smaller, more compact size that's right for your farm. May the Lord grant you inspiration and architectural vision. Heb 11:10. You're like a mother hen to your hens! Lk 13:34.
It is very big, but still like that it will hold lots of chickens....
Put wheels on your eggemobile and it will solve 2 problems. I would find an old hay wagon and build your eggemobile around it. Building it this way you will solve 2 problems the wheels you can probably pull it with your 4 wheeler and using a old hay wagon it will go between those rock walls Glenn from Marinette Wisconsin
try lifting the egg mobile with removable wheels
We could hear the clutch on the tractor crying ENOUGH !!! from over hear in England HaHa.
Divide that egg mobile in half...You have six trusses. Do three per side and it will be much easier to handle with your small tractor.
Semion, put the wheelbarrow tires on this for easier transport.
the happiness they must feel at 12:00min.. 👏👏 Nice video simeon.
vore jag dig skulle jag bygga en lite smidigare motvikt till traktorn. ett oljefat ett rärnrör och lite betong och sten så :)
I love the relaxing music. How do you go about choosing the music?
Simeon, couldn't you use a couple of the wheel jacks they use on trailers? They could be swung up out of the way so it could sit on the ground when not needed.
Nice video thanks Simon , can I get the plans of eggmobil ?
How about adding large caster wheels that you can raise/lower for transportation?
Yes, as A couple of folks have mentioned... Wheels or large casters would be great.
With all these helpful comments problem should be solved. Interested in seeing which way you go.
I like the piano intro. OK, throughout. It makes me want to cry. lol. (like in a movie)
I love your egg mobile!! Nicely done. Your wife is lucky to have a guy who is so handy.
Just expand the surface area when it meets the ground. I use wheels on my chicken tractors but PVC would work fine. Johnson Farms
Wheels. Others said it already. Your tight turn radius makes skids inefficient and stresses the structure.
Put car engine hoods or roofs under the corners to distribute the loads and not dog in. A couple old Volvo hods may be just right.
Cut up old propane tanks and make skis for the structure.
Cant you put Wheels on it, like on big wagons for tractors, that are moveable up and down, kind of the support Wheel on a trailer for your car. Or hydraulics if you want to put more work and Money into it. Farmers use that all the time for folding their Equipment/lowering the wheels when transporting it. Strip an older one of the gear and mount it on the chicken tractor. Just a suggestion/ idea,
nice video...what's the width, length and height of this mobile unit? why not put wheels on it for easier to move?
Very nice build of chicken tractor - why didnt u build it with a wheel chassis?
How about just laying some planks or rollers on the ground, for the eggmobile to slide / roll upon, at the most critical spots?
Make the ends of the rails turn up like a sled
I like your hat. What is the brand/model?
I'm impressed with your structure but it looks like it could lose some weight. How about drilling 1-2" holes through the structures...strategically. It would make your moving much easier given your small tractor and less damage to the fields.
Can you somehow collect rainwater from the roof? For the hens to drink i mean?
Is there a reason these aren't built with wheels for easy moving?
Du har inte problem med rovdjur eller drag?
What about a slightly larger chickshaw similar to Justin Rhodes that he uses for a chicken tractor
Can you round the feet somehow... something like hubcaps? my instinct would be to put sliders under the legs .. much like furniture sliders... just a thought.. Thanks for sharing
Lori, sad to say that I plundered you pond or something, I wrote my comment without seeing yours, my apologies, friends ?
Great minds think alike :) No worries
wheels, skids, tracks, chains axels etc. anyway you look at it or trying to solve it an eggmobile should be easilly mobile. this is . a key part of your operation and a main source of your income so it is hard to 'overoptimze' it. after all of the hard work that you put into building it (and will further invest in the future) as you said last week "some time you just have to invest" / on the surface, it seems to me that if will find a solution that make it "plug and go"' you will be able to get it back in the form of less moving time and engine hours, less stress on the structure so it will last longer and less stress on the layers from this frequnt intervention. wheels are probably what i would go for but you need to do it right and right takes time, in the meanwhile you should go to the nearest junk yard and put your hand on some ENGINE OIL SUMPS (or any thing of that nature) so you can easaly cut them to shape and put on the corners to give you some more manuverabilty and flxibility
or maybe discs plats from an old harrow
im wondering? What type of pant are those you wear. they look comfortable. are they a swiss brand. please let me know
You can make like a skis where the front of it goes up in the air unit like skis to and then it wouldn't do the grass is that why
why not things like ski's at the corner'seasy sliding
Is this for sale??
There are no varmints in Sweden ?
rmobile racoon feeding station
.....pretty much...
Intressant att den hängande fågeln håller de andra borta. Lite morbidt kanske, men varför inte om de fungerar!
Hook it close and the tractor will lift the egg mobile .
If you just have a little gap at the ridgeline of your roof, you could cut a PVC pipe
in half and cover the gap with that? ?
no foxes in swenden?
use wheels for that thing
Hi. Maybe if you put disc instead of sleads on the mobile, it should be much more mobile, [spika dit en djup tallriksliknade mojäng istället för en skidliknande pryttel) //Per
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i dont know if you have noticed but i think you need wheels, i dont understand how you would think you would move it about? i hope you read thins and work out you need WHEELS
Great video!