Having achieved this in this setup over the Internet during Covid period is simply insane, look what luxury brands have launched during the same period, nothing; and this guys designed, coordinated, built something totally new is simply to be applauded
@@petermartin9494 its what inside of this watch that is special not to mention of the quality of the dial,hands , case really ?nothing special for the price it was first offered at??
I’m not surprised that Bill was able to get this accomplished. I remember when his channel first started. Something about his organizational and research skills struck me as unique for a “random” watch UA-cam channel. Now I’m seeing those skills manifested into the creation of a watch from all the right people. What a cool story!
For a hand beveled, hand finished movement 10k is cheap. Rolex doesn’t finish their watches to this level, nor does any other brand in this price category.
The No 2 was way over-subscribed and I'm looking forward to seeing it.Herding the cats was a fine achievement by the Professor and much more interesting than just going into an AD.
The small seconds hand has a very smooth sweep, unlike what you'd see in a typical 21,600 VPH movement. Agenhor did an excellent job there, and I believe it's their AgenEse gear that creates that much smoother running hand.
Bill Sanders really knows his stuff. He has been making videos on high horology for 7 years and can project manage. I'll save up to join in on Etude 3.
Bill steered the ship masterfully and you capured the essence of our experience so eloquently. As Bill responded after watching this video, YOU GOT US. Thank you, Thank you and Thank you for sharing our story with the watch community. Perhaps it will inspires others to do the same. Cheers!
Beautiful... But the first thing I'd do, is retouch the spare set of hands and have them installed. Those on this watch looked terrible. Other than that, The watch is gorgeous.
The companies behind these components are incredible. Voutilainen watches routinely sell for $100k+. Metalem dials found in the Simplicity by the greatest watchmaker of the 20th century Mr. Dufour whose watches sell for $400k+ at auction. And Agenhor who has won 9 GPHG awards for their movements!
Definitely thankful for Bill for allowing all 51 of us to be able to get this watch. The best horological buying experience of my life and I will cherish my Lyrique till the end.
For 7500 that's the best watch out there. That is the only problem, it isn't "out there". The price doesn't matter if you can't get your hands on it. And that kind of breaks the spell.
The way the bottom of the 8 sticks out just below the sets my ocd off so they’ve achieved that goal 😂 incredible that they managed to coordinate 51 opinions let alone get the thing made. Brilliant stuff.
I haven't seen the watch as a whole yet but the glimpses of the dial is enough for me, I LOVE it! I don't care what the rest of the watch looks like, the dial does it for me! I can't afford one because I'm a pensioner but hell .....💗
Bill is something special that's for sure. Very good man with a strange obsession for a little out of date machine no one needs. I still like them both a lot.
Always liked this idea. If Bill would assemble a larger group who could then decide on a watch by watch basis if they wanted to participate, I’d love to be part of that larger group. Unlikely to happen though.
I'm constantly surprised that even in expensive custom watches like this one, the designers think that it's just fine to cover up part of the 8 and all of the 9. Also destroying some of the tick marks. It just seems like really poor graphics to me. (I was a design architect and artist for over 50 years, so I have definite opinions about such things.)
To be honest, I'd still buy a D Dornbluth and Sohn. Beautiful, German, handmade with the ability to customize and engrave. And a Unitas 6498. So shouldn't be expensive to maintain. You can buy a million dollar jet, that's the easy part. Can you maintain it?
I’ve always wanted a display case back with a personalized engraving on the rotor, or some prominent internal component… I think that would be quite the bespoke flex 💪
@@petermartin9494 engraving the rotor is completely harmless, the company can send you an extra rotor if you're buying a luxury watch, so you can always swap out the engraved one if you're talking about resale value.
@@Megatraum504 because nobody wants to buy an engraved watch that says "love you amanda" or some stupid shit like that, im guessing that's what he's talking about
To be brutally honest the real heroes of the story are the high quality designers, suppliers and manufacturers that came through for these "dreamers". These days if you have the money and drive to do a watch there isn't much stopping you to achieve a fine piece.
They did a great job of getting what they wanted for a good price. In our hyper connected world we don’t have to settle for anything mass manufactured if we don’t want to. Craftsmanship comes at a premium but if you’re willing to act as a collaborator and assume some of the liabilities yourself, you can do similar. I’ll be curious to see what they come up with next.
Bill has a very interesting channel and a very intersting watch collection. What he is lacking is the filming setup and skills that you have. I would love to see him invited in one of your shows and I would also like to see his most interesting watches filmed and presented by you.
Let me know how I can get my own parts to make my dream watch! This is something we all should do to these big expensive brands like Seiko, Patik, Philippe, Rolex. if we all order, I’m sure we can get a better deal. And make the “RIGHT” watch that we all are waiting for.
The whole idea and execution are attractive...however, I do not have deep enough pockets to afford even one. VERY COOL THO' ! Love the dial and hands completely!
Bill is awesome! Super knowledgeable and a great guy. I‘m more of a sports watch enthusiast, but if I wanted a nice dress watch I‘d join in for the next version.
That gear with spring on every teeth I really haven't seen anyting like that. But just out of curiosity I just compared the second hand movement to my seiko it didn't seem to hesitate less. Are any of you able to notice the improvement caused by this gear?
Fun story, thanks Andrew. Not too far off the story of Horage who designs and produces small batches of purely Swiss watches for similarly crazy low prices for what you’re getting
Cool story and nice design. If I were an owner I would be unhappy with the finishing on the hands. Unacceptable at that price in my opinion. Well done otherwise though 👏
Great love for Bill S, great guy with a genuine knowledge without bias and his channel is one to the best out there. I followed the design and build over on his channel . TBF A 40+ case is the minimum for me so I was out but I really wished they'd lowered and covered the 8 sub dial , it doesn't annoy where it is I just wanted it off set as something quirky different.
So, theoretically, if I wanted to build my own watch, where should I look for guides, resources and materials? I understand that making your own watch is a serious endeavor that requires expertise, but would be great to know where to start this journey.
Depends what you really want to do. Do you want to develop everything from the ground up? Or do you just want to design your own case, dial, hands, etc? If you are looking to go about it from start to finish. George Daniels “Watchmaking” is a great resource. But if you want to just “design” your own watch, theres very little barrier to entry. All you need is a pencil and paper. 3D CAD software is relatively cheap and you can coordinate with manufacturers over seas no problem.
What I find fascinating is, there are a handful of watches offering water proofing. Seems the watchmakers want us spend all our money and yet take off the watch each time we wash our hands.
With 50 guys whose starting-point is a (presumed) level of financial freedom, it seems reasonable that one might end up thinking "I kinda like doing this...a lot". Then goes ahead and does so for essentially the same reasons as this project.
If I had the money I might take a chance. At that price I would not wear it everyday so would not wear out that fast that it would need service. Unless of course it starts to rust or something. But under the kind of use that I would have for it it'll probably last a lifetime.
For me this watch is such a bluff. I never waste half of that on this watch. It was surprising if instead of make a watch that cost 1/3 of a 20k they make that with a 3/4k watch. That would be interesting.
You can actually build watches yourself from globally sourced parts but not an original like the boys have done here. Hats of to them and may they continue producing quality watches. To be honest the hands are probably the only things you will need in future servicing and repairs
Interesting story that proves access to watchmaking has low as well as high end opportunities. Lyrique is a microbrand after all and unusual take on the concept. Having watches his channel a number of times it does not surprise me he created this.
The movement looks like a tier or two above the case specially the dial and hands, maybe its a design quality assurance thing...The movement though looks priceless.
The watch firms that makes the greatest proportion of their own parts, including cases, movements, dials & hands, etc, would be Japan’s Seiko & Russia’s Vostok, rather than any Swiss. Plus out of those 2, Vostok comes out ahead as it has less parts made in subsidiaries in places like China, Malaysia & Singapore.
Having achieved this in this setup over the Internet during Covid period is simply insane, look what luxury brands have launched during the same period, nothing; and this guys designed, coordinated, built something totally new is simply to be applauded
There is nothing new or original about that watch. It is boring and generic.
@@petermartin9494 its what inside of this watch that is special not to mention of the quality of the dial,hands , case really ?nothing special for the price it was first offered at??
@@petermartin9494Boring and generic, just like your mom.
I like the fact it carries the signatures of all the parts suppliers. Everyone gets credit.
every watch every watch lover dreamed about own watch brand, I am happy that someone actually did it
I’m not surprised that Bill was able to get this accomplished. I remember when his channel first started. Something about his organizational and research skills struck me as unique for a “random” watch UA-cam channel. Now I’m seeing those skills manifested into the creation of a watch from all the right people. What a cool story!
I don't know that I'd call $10K "crazy cheap" but, man, that is seriously beautiful.
I wouldn’t call the color red “purple” but, man, that is seriously beautiful
For a hand beveled, hand finished movement 10k is cheap. Rolex doesn’t finish their watches to this level, nor does any other brand in this price category.
The No 2 was way over-subscribed and I'm looking forward to seeing it.Herding the cats was a fine achievement by the Professor and much more interesting than just going into an AD.
The small seconds hand has a very smooth sweep, unlike what you'd see in a typical 21,600 VPH movement. Agenhor did an excellent job there, and I believe it's their AgenEse gear that creates that much smoother running hand.
Bill Sanders really knows his stuff. He has been making videos on high horology for 7 years and can project manage. I'll save up to join in on Etude 3.
Bill steered the ship masterfully and you capured the essence of our experience so eloquently. As Bill responded after watching this video, YOU GOT US. Thank you, Thank you and Thank you for sharing our story with the watch community. Perhaps it will inspires others to do the same. Cheers!
They 'cut out the middleman' ... like DW and Filippo Loretti 😏
How do you open those dw case backs btw?
You mean spaghetti scameti 😂
@@riseuplighthopefully with a hammer
I love the movement. The gear with a spring on each tooth is innovative and smart . It looks beautiful too, and I love enamel dials
Hard to believe, but it's a lacquer dial.
No, I wouldn't. But bloody hell, I know about Agenhor now. I just looked them up and was amazed.
Beautiful... But the first thing I'd do, is retouch the spare set of hands and have them installed. Those on this watch looked terrible. Other than that, The watch is gorgeous.
The companies behind these components are incredible. Voutilainen watches routinely sell for $100k+. Metalem dials found in the Simplicity by the greatest watchmaker of the 20th century Mr. Dufour whose watches sell for $400k+ at auction. And Agenhor who has won 9 GPHG awards for their movements!
Definitely thankful for Bill for allowing all 51 of us to be able to get this watch. The best horological buying experience of my life and I will cherish my Lyrique till the end.
I had input on the design and case size, but pulled out as I didn't like the small seconds at 9:00 o/c.
For 7500 that's the best watch out there. That is the only problem, it isn't "out there". The price doesn't matter if you can't get your hands on it. And that kind of breaks the spell.
The way the bottom of the 8 sticks out just below the sets my ocd off so they’ve achieved that goal 😂 incredible that they managed to coordinate 51 opinions let alone get the thing made. Brilliant stuff.
Get a pill or do something about your ocd then. It’s YOUR problem not ours.
"they made the watch for themselves". brilliant.
I haven't seen the watch as a whole yet but the glimpses of the dial is enough for me, I LOVE it!
I don't care what the rest of the watch looks like, the dial does it for me!
I can't afford one because I'm a pensioner but hell .....💗
But…but…but…….WHY IS THAT LITTLE CHUNK OF THE ‘8’ DOING THERE, PEEKING OUT FROM BEHIND THE SUB-DIAL?!! 😫
Love this... Congratulations to Bill and the rest!
I watch Bill's channel. I am not surprised that he/they got this done. Bravo! I love it!
Anything original, custom, useful, elegant, and very affordable is just a wonderful idea for those who can produce it.
Bill is something special that's for sure. Very good man with a strange obsession for a little out of date machine no one needs. I still like them both a lot.
Props to Bill for pulling this one off!
Loved the old "Mr Hands" format but Loving the new format more, great to put a face to a voice :)
Always liked this idea. If Bill would assemble a larger group who could then decide on a watch by watch basis if they wanted to participate, I’d love to be part of that larger group. Unlikely to happen though.
Andrew. You know, I wish you would tell us about these watches BEFORE the order book closes?
No one was interested in producing content about a watch that hadn't been manufactured yet.
I love all kinds of dials and dial colours but for me the ultimate colour for a classically designed dress watch is white/cream
I've actually handled this watch. I know one of the guys that was part of the group and bought a couple. Its actually pretty amazing.
I'm constantly surprised that even in expensive custom watches like this one, the designers think that it's just fine to cover up part of the 8 and all of the 9. Also destroying some of the tick marks. It just seems like really poor graphics to me. (I was a design architect and artist for over 50 years, so I have definite opinions about such things.)
I disagree. I think covering some parts of the dial is a stroke of design genius. Not everyone will love it but I certainly do.
I don't like the dial, but the movement is worth that money. I would wear upside down.
To be honest, I'd still buy a D Dornbluth and Sohn. Beautiful, German, handmade with the ability to customize and engrave. And a Unitas 6498. So shouldn't be expensive to maintain. You can buy a million dollar jet, that's the easy part. Can you maintain it?
I’ve always wanted a display case back with a personalized engraving on the rotor, or some prominent internal component… I think that would be quite the bespoke flex 💪
Personalized engravings are about the dumbest thing you can to when it comes to watches.
@@petermartin9494 lmao why?
@@petermartin9494 engraving the rotor is completely harmless, the company can send you an extra rotor if you're buying a luxury watch, so you can always swap out the engraved one if you're talking about resale value.
@@Megatraum504 because nobody wants to buy an engraved watch that says "love you amanda" or some stupid shit like that, im guessing that's what he's talking about
I can’t wait to see #2 on here in 3 years or so!! Bill is so cool, love his channel as well :)
To be brutally honest the real heroes of the story are the high quality designers, suppliers and manufacturers that came through for these "dreamers". These days if you have the money and drive to do a watch there isn't much stopping you to achieve a fine piece.
They did a great job of getting what they wanted for a good price. In our hyper connected world we don’t have to settle for anything mass manufactured if we don’t want to. Craftsmanship comes at a premium but if you’re willing to act as a collaborator and assume some of the liabilities yourself, you can do similar. I’ll be curious to see what they come up with next.
Bill’s channel is always worth a look.
As part of #2, this video is spot on. And I think we've even improved on #1.....
Like the dial .. love the movement.
Brilliant Video from someone who clearly knows the industry well. Thx
Best part about Bill Sanders starting a Swiss watch brand: now Bill Sanders will correctly pronounce one Swiss watch brand.
Bill has a very interesting channel and a very intersting watch collection. What he is lacking is the filming setup and skills that you have. I would love to see him invited in one of your shows and I would also like to see his most interesting watches filmed and presented by you.
Definitely reminiscent of FP Journe chronometre line. Way better looking movement though.
Let me know how I can get my own parts to make my dream watch!
This is something we all should do to these big expensive brands like Seiko, Patik, Philippe,
Rolex. if we all order, I’m sure we can get a better deal.
And make the “RIGHT” watch that we all are waiting for.
The whole idea and execution are attractive...however, I do not have deep enough pockets to afford even one. VERY COOL THO' ! Love the dial and hands completely!
Success! That crummy 8 does wind me up. Not to mention the sub dial cutting into the minute track. Still very well done.
Bill is awesome! Super knowledgeable and a great guy. I‘m more of a sports watch enthusiast, but if I wanted a nice dress watch I‘d join in for the next version.
I actually prefer the look of the back of the watch to the front. The movement looks amazing.
You ought to wind it.
That gear with spring on every teeth I really haven't seen anyting like that. But just out of curiosity I just compared the second hand movement to my seiko it didn't seem to hesitate less. Are any of you able to notice the improvement caused by this gear?
That’s unique to Agenhor!
Yes ! I love Bill! Glad to see their watch on here !
Fun story, thanks Andrew. Not too far off the story of Horage who designs and produces small batches of purely Swiss watches for similarly crazy low prices for what you’re getting
Good on Bill & the Bloke's !
I do love this watch. Neat and beautifully designed. Thumbs up for this guy and his friends
Brilliant story behind the watch!
Cool story and nice design. If I were an owner I would be unhappy with the finishing on the hands. Unacceptable at that price in my opinion.
Well done otherwise though 👏
Fascinating! I really enjoy the format and the watches you cover. Well done🥃
Great love for Bill S, great guy with a genuine knowledge without bias and his channel is one to the best out there.
I followed the design and build over on his channel . TBF A 40+ case is the minimum for me so I was out but I really wished they'd lowered and covered the 8 sub dial , it doesn't annoy where it is I just wanted it off set as something quirky different.
Very interesting story. The watch doesn't really do anything for me. But that movement looks rather nice.
Based on H Moser & Cie and Parmigiani Fleurier also relying on Aghenor to help with their most complex movements … I think this is legit af.
10:14 According to Bill, the stripes on the movement mismatch was done on purpose. Relative to your question: I'd sign up for this without hesitation.
So, theoretically, if I wanted to build my own watch, where should I look for guides, resources and materials? I understand that making your own watch is a serious endeavor that requires expertise, but would be great to know where to start this journey.
Depends what you really want to do. Do you want to develop everything from the ground up? Or do you just want to design your own case, dial, hands, etc?
If you are looking to go about it from start to finish. George Daniels “Watchmaking” is a great resource.
But if you want to just “design” your own watch, theres very little barrier to entry. All you need is a pencil and paper. 3D CAD software is relatively cheap and you can coordinate with manufacturers over seas no problem.
I think Bill from watchartsci is going to do a video shortly, on how to start up producing your own watch. That will be worth a look.
Those imperfect hands would drive me nuts.
What I find fascinating is, there are a handful of watches offering water proofing. Seems the watchmakers want us spend all our money and yet take off the watch each time we wash our hands.
With 50 guys whose starting-point is a (presumed) level of financial freedom, it seems reasonable that one might end up thinking "I kinda like doing this...a lot". Then goes ahead and does so for essentially the same reasons as this project.
I would definitely be interested in further similar collabs
If I had the money I might take a chance. At that price I would not wear it everyday so would not wear out that fast that it would need service. Unless of course it starts to rust or something. But under the kind of use that I would have for it it'll probably last a lifetime.
Love the Art deco style.
If I had $7,500; this watch would be a no-brainer. I would take this over an Omega or Rolex any day.
I just watched a video about a watch I can't even own! And of course I love it.
For me this watch is such a bluff. I never waste half of that on this watch. It was surprising if instead of make a watch that cost 1/3 of a 20k they make that with a 3/4k watch. That would be interesting.
The dial is so nice that I would not have changed a thing if they presented me with the prototype.
Absolutely spectacular. I am blown away.
Ok...and what if we need the watch to get serviced? What is the cost then?
Where can you buy one of these? Is it possible to buy one?
There is one on Chrono 24 right now. 33K.
You can actually build watches yourself from globally sourced parts but not an original like the boys have done here. Hats of to them and may they continue producing quality watches. To be honest the hands are probably the only things you will need in future servicing and repairs
Never thought Benedict Cumberbatch's brother would be Watchfinder. But had I listened to his voice I could've known.
I love it! Wresting originality from the SWISS industry.
Interesting story that proves access to watchmaking has low as well as high end opportunities. Lyrique is a microbrand after all and unusual take on the concept. Having watches his channel a number of times it does not surprise me he created this.
Just beautiful time piece.
They need to change the font for its numerals.
I like this episode.
Bill Sanders et alia are honest people. Watchfinder sell broken watches and then dispute the warranty.
Bill's dream is beautiful to behold.
An absolutely beautiful watch.
Love the dial and hands very cool story
I’d wear one. Love that movement.
Love your voice . You should do radio or TV .😊
Love the watch, but talking about it like this BILL was an everyman, just a random Joe - is reallly misleading .
when you load up a watchfinder and co video and you see the face behind the voice!
They are for sale on chrono for 30k+
selling doesn't mean sold :)
I am so glad to see you finally!!!
Wow. Where can I get one?
The movement looks like a tier or two above the case specially the dial and hands, maybe its a design quality assurance thing...The movement though looks priceless.
I am a long time Bill follower as well. What they did is great, no2 will be released in short time.
I would absolutely love to buy it right now! 👍😃
There are couple of them on c24. But definitely way higher than the ~$10K list price
I want in on version 3
When you say: there's a manufacturer for every part -who is bezel manufacturer on demand?tnx
I just googled the price and it ain't £7,500,its retailing over £20,000,hardly affordable to normal hard working people with kids and bills to pay!
The watch firms that makes the greatest proportion of their own parts, including cases, movements, dials & hands, etc, would be Japan’s Seiko & Russia’s Vostok, rather than any Swiss. Plus out of those 2, Vostok comes out ahead as it has less parts made in subsidiaries in places like China, Malaysia & Singapore.
Great content, please bring back the hands style though - was a trademark for this channel!
I just can't stop looking at the small paint burr on hour hand, inside of ring...