How to Break the 180 Degree Rule
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- The 180 degree rule is simple in theory, but a little confusing to understand. But what if you want to break it? I’ll show you how to break the 180-degree rule, on purpose, and with purpose.
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Can you make a video about the usage of Limited space in films
Lesson: if you make a mistake, make the mistake several times and say it was an intentional choice to break the rules.
"Repetition legitimizes"
"Intention legitimizes"
Arrival's dream sequence is another good example of a good way to break the rule.
I was just trying to remember whether they did that. Nice one.
I don't mean this in a snide way, but why would you do this? Some of the scenes seem pretty simple. Like conversations or a character moving through rooms. Why disorient your audience.i understand if it's for the theme or fits some sort of conflict.But other than this, i can only see it as lack of set space or laziness.
I appreciate your videos! Gives me a better eye for things like this
Arguably the most famous break of the rule is the bathroom scene with "Grady" in The Shining. ua-cam.com/video/XnxgYYfIooc/v-deo.html A complete 180 degree switch at least twice in the first 2 1/2 minutes of 5 minute scene. Though both characters are in frame, full body or waist up, each time, cut, it's still jarring somewhat, being that the information in scene both sides is very similar, with mirrors, urinals switching sides, colors and overall emotion of setting stays same imo. Would be interesting to know reasons for this rule break and why Kubrick did it. Anyone? thanks.
i still find no reason to break this rule..it doesnt look too natural:) although he did a good job i still find it a bit confusing/un-natural and too risky ..a bit pointless... maybe:) but i do agree that sometimes is good to break some rules ...
Breaking the rule has a somewhat jarring effect, so for example if two characters are talking, and one of the characters reveals a new important piece of information which shifts the tone of the scene, then breaking the 180 degree rule could be a good idea.
Also as an example (also presented in the video), you can use it to disorient the viewer, so for example if character is lost in a maze, you can emphasize the effect by breaking the rule.
That's exactly the reason. He doesn't want to do it the "natural" way, that's what makes him unique. He doesn't want to be basic just like all the other directors. Do you think he'll become well known if he done it the normal way like everybody else? Of course not.
ikr lol...just for the sake of being different...unless you're making "Scary Movie" it doesn't make sense lol
This interest me even-though I don't get often disoriented by rule breaking or even notice it :D
Parasite is also a great example of it !
Or he just didn't care about the rule.. All he wanted to make frames as he imagined..
Mind blown guruji, i once broke the 180° while shooting a short but i used a oner for it... Tbh i had no idea, great cinematographers like you existed in India until i a few years ago when i got ur channel...
Thank you!
The cut between 2:03 and 2:05 is a definite jump. The doorway cannot be there in 2:05 if the actors' marks are as in 2:03.
However, there is no issue for the viewer because the master Ozu has confused them sufficiently breaking the 180 rules in previous shots!
One effect is, it keeps the viewer always on his toes
so he will, in an otherwise 'boring' scene, keep his focus.
Breaking the 180 rule? Just put another camera 180 degrees across-problem solved.
Oh, I thought you were talking about former trampoline gymnast and now high level German politician Annalena Baerbock. One of the many many many non-STEM capable women that confuse 180 with 360 degrees... so little did you know your unconscious bias operating here? What woman could use the 180 rule if she can't tell that from turning all around, a 360 Bearbock!?
I'm dizzy now!!!!
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180 degree rule
Great video! Need to watch it a few times to fully understand. I reckon that the 1.37:1 ratio greatly influences the shot compositions. OSS are more common in wider aspect ratios. Googled the prime lens used. I knew it was neither wide angle not telefocus. It's s 50mm. Looked a little wider, 40-ish to me, but I'm still learning.
Anyway, this is gold! Thank you!
You're welcome!
I'll say this: a filmmaker is better off without knowing the 180° rule. Just do it the way you want. Nobody is that dumb to not know where & how to take a shot.
It can get tricky with moving cameras especially if you're filming doc style.
i'm so confused now.
Best 180 degree rule breaking scene was in Christopher Nolan's movie Following in which two actors physically move from one sids to another to Break the rule
It was awesome
Impressive. Thanks … Why not review Hollywood movies?
On set for features or episodic TV, no one ever talked about the 180 degree rule. Some mention may have been spoken about "the line." In rehearsal, actors see the camera placement thereby establishing the line and they adjust accordingly--on union shoots.
I don't have the slightest idea what the 180 degree rule means.
All I know is that these films , especially the Noriko Trilogy, are movie masterpieces.
*meanwhile Ozu: I just keep camera and record. What this man praising me about? Me confused.
Jk
Haha. Ur comment at the end made me laugh! Thats the end punch. Great video as always. Cheers
Wow! Such a nice explanation!
Especially the technique to shoot from below to make the viewer more relaxed while watching
just make a list of all these movies so i can find them! love your page
I like the tip at the end about do it often enough to seem purposeful 😅
what would be the mathematical equation to describe upside down video? we've got 180 degrees for the two dimensional representation, upside down would bring in at least another coordinate, yea?
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Thank you!
Or he just .. nvm lol I love these videos!
.......the 180 degree rule is little bit confusing yes..... but you made it easy for us .......thanks for new video
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Questio, because im still fairly new to this:
Does the interrogation scene from inglorious basterds count as well?
Because the camera rotates past the 180 around the table
No, you need a cut with a change.
@@wolfcrow now i feel silly. I just looked at the scene again and it is the cut less than a minute later. The moment, when hans pulls out his big pipe.
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I think I'm too amateur to understand these. 😂😂
2:20 Looks tight...50mm?
Ozu used 50mm almost in all his movies. What I call single-lens director.
Amazing analysis
Thank you!
I feel dizzy.
I think you missed to Tell us about the purpose part. Makes no sense to me.
I hate “film students” whom need to be explained about the 180 degree rule. If you love cinema enough to study it, the 180 rule is the most obvious to deduce.