Why He Quit IFS? (Analyzing India's Foreign Services) - Ft. Shantanu Bhagwat with Naman Ep. 1

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  • @namanshrivastava
    @namanshrivastava  Рік тому +43

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  • @prtk_01
    @prtk_01 5 місяців тому +41

    He passed away 4 months ago. Saw a post on LinkedIn. He was really loved and respected by his colleagues. True Patriot. Om Shanti Sir💐💐

  • @fahad5991
    @fahad5991 10 місяців тому +39

    Such a gem person! May he Rest in Peace. Prayers for him and his close ones. 💔

    • @Sajal0312
      @Sajal0312 9 місяців тому +1

      did he die ?

    • @Arjun-nx
      @Arjun-nx 9 місяців тому +5

      @@Sajal0312 yes brother he is no more between all of us cause brain tumour😥

    • @hdkdjd2949
      @hdkdjd2949 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Arjun-nxooh really? Sad to hear that

  • @SkyLoreking
    @SkyLoreking 4 місяці тому +13

    as a citizen, I really feel sorry and pained for India as we employ approximately 700 IFS officers which is less than Singapore which employs more than 800 officers with the city size of Chennai. We the rising sovereign power need to increase our foreign service to a minimum of 3000 officers or else we will pay dearly in times of need or war. thank you for the video

  • @rayray9996
    @rayray9996 Рік тому +41

    Shantanu has been brutally honest about various matters in this video. His comments about the Indian Civil Services are so true. I admire his courage to decide not to be part of the crowd and do what is politically correct in order to remain in the service so as to enjoy the perks/benefits and retirement benefits. He had the courage to stand up for what he believed in and is now in a good place. An inspiration for people of all ages.

  • @barneystinson8789
    @barneystinson8789 Рік тому +33

    Naman Sir and Shantanu Sir - what a Jodi! Both are true MisFits! Naman sir for today's generation, and Shantanu Sir for the previous generation. What a pleasure to see both of them together

    • @ShantanuB
      @ShantanuB Рік тому +4

      Thanks @barneysttincon8789. Glad you enjoyed it. MisFits sometimes get very lucky!
      All the best to you in your journey

  • @Muleslover
    @Muleslover Рік тому +35

    Most of the govt primary schools are synonym to kitchen because kid only eat food and come back.

    • @operator_zx5265
      @operator_zx5265 Рік тому

      Read some shit kid , learn something about poverty , malnutrition, gross enrollment ration in poor area ,etc. And then talk aalll this nonsense.

  • @amrutwarty8823
    @amrutwarty8823 Рік тому +12

    Lovely honest interview. Would love to meet Mr. Shantanu Bhagwat. Thanks Mr. Naman for this interview.

  • @sayeeshreddy4853
    @sayeeshreddy4853 Рік тому +13

    I have never waited so eagerly for a video in my life. Glad to say that it was worth the wait. Such an amazing and insightful podcast. Glad to be a part of misfits. Lots of love sir.

    • @namanshrivastava
      @namanshrivastava  Рік тому +3

      Always a delight to hear from a MisFitter! :)

    • @youreverydaymotivation.
      @youreverydaymotivation. Рік тому

      ​​@@namanshrivastavaFirst I thought you invited Railway Minister 😅.
      And Bhaiya I applied for Misfits Scholarship but did not got any reply from your side yet.
      Also I want to know should I go with your CGI Initiative is there any scholarship for CGI also??

    • @ShantanuB
      @ShantanuB Рік тому

      Thank you Sayeesh. Glad you enjoyed it. All the best to you in your aspirations.

    • @ShantanuB
      @ShantanuB Рік тому +2

      Thank you @youreverydaymotivation. I have never been compared to the Railway Minister, but there is always a first time, I guess!

  • @ShivamSharma-un6fj
    @ShivamSharma-un6fj Рік тому +149

    Who will then carry forward legacy of bureaucracy, if we all bow down to challenges. Why such videos " quit" upsc, why not " reform" upsc! ... Sir tell us?

    • @vanshikathakur7208
      @vanshikathakur7208 Рік тому +15

      Agree

    • @karunasingh4591
      @karunasingh4591 Рік тому +8

      Beacuse yu have to accept if you want to be with truth any kind of challenge can some and you have to face it whether it is upon your life ....that is summarisation

    • @vanshikathakur7208
      @vanshikathakur7208 Рік тому +20

      @@karunasingh4591 then who will take the challenges? Everyone has to face challenges in thier life ...what do u want everyone to leave these "challenges" wale jobs? Then all the army people should leave their jobs?..
      Challenges are the part of our life.. gotta face them

    • @karunasingh4591
      @karunasingh4591 Рік тому +2

      @vanshikathakur please read carefully mny aisa kahi nahi likha

    • @ShantanuB
      @ShantanuB Рік тому +8

      @Shivam: Sure, reforming the services is a very noble aim. But the direction has to be set by the political leadership. Administrative Reforms have been on the agenda for years now but progress has been very slow, although things are changing since the last 10 years or so (e.g., encouraging lateral entry)

  • @rajeevbanga4951
    @rajeevbanga4951 7 місяців тому +1

    Naman, you are a dicovery with bright credentials and a strong independent streak ! Your interview with Mr Shantanu Bhagwat, an equally interesting person, was candid, realistic, and thoroughly enjoyable.

  • @anujpandey6973
    @anujpandey6973 Рік тому +24

    He can afford such roller coaster journey and decisions due to his immense intelligence …but not everyone for him civil services is just a job but for many it is their survival ( although it should not be the case but the ground reality of producing skill less graduates results into such condition )

    • @ShantanuB
      @ShantanuB Рік тому +6

      Anuj: I agree. This is not a path for everyone. You have to be prepared to live with enormous uncertainty, high risk of failure and in the end still not achieving what you wanted to do. So, not a journey for everyone. I got lucky and remain blessed.

  • @aishwaryapriya9416
    @aishwaryapriya9416 Рік тому +11

    Please add subtitles. Shantanu's voice is coming across aa really low. Naman's voice is surprisingly translucent.

    • @ShantanuB
      @ShantanuB Рік тому

      Thanks for the feedback, Aishwarya. Will bear in mind for the next time.

  • @AI-Tutorials-
    @AI-Tutorials- Рік тому +7

    thankyou so much for the podcast i was s much confused myself between IFS and USMLE, i did made up my mind to pursue USMLE but the fact that I have followed the diplomatic affairs since class 9th stopped me but now I do have a clear vision for myself, so thanks a lot !!

    • @NeetuSingh-yp6fj
      @NeetuSingh-yp6fj Рік тому

      Now u r in which class ?

    • @ShantanuB
      @ShantanuB Рік тому

      @Satanmabuz8956: Thank you for sharing your experience. I am glad that listening to this helped you clarify your thinking. Things are rarely black & white.

    • @deepasinghal4729
      @deepasinghal4729 Рік тому

      USMLE? American medical license?

    • @sakshamsharma8511
      @sakshamsharma8511 Рік тому

      Hey man I’m in the same dilemma rn mle vs UPSC , I would like to connect please

  • @hagimaruu
    @hagimaruu Рік тому +9

    Very Interesting Person !!
    Loved his practical views.
    Wish I could meet him once..
    Waiting for more Podcasts like this !!!!

    • @namanshrivastava
      @namanshrivastava  Рік тому +3

      Absolutely!

    • @ShantanuB
      @ShantanuB Рік тому +3

      @Scholar:Thanks and glad you enjoyed the video. The world is a small place (and getting smaller). So who knows, one day perhaps we will meet!

  • @Manhafuture
    @Manhafuture Рік тому +5

    finally u uploaded it naman bhaiya now i can die in peace after watching full podcast

  • @vivek3693
    @vivek3693 Рік тому +9

    I strongly believe that the richness of experiences makes life amazing. And life is too short to stick to something you don't enjoy. I envy his adventurous and follow-your-heart kind of journey. Absolutely inspiring conversation.

  • @shrishtishukla4149
    @shrishtishukla4149 Рік тому +22

    We need more podcast like this , enough of toppers

    • @namanshrivastava
      @namanshrivastava  Рік тому +3

      Thanks Shrishti for your kind words! Wish you all the best :)

    • @ShantanuB
      @ShantanuB Рік тому +5

      Thanks Shrishti: I'm pleased you liked the podcast. MisFits have stories to share too!

  • @sandhyadobhal8191
    @sandhyadobhal8191 Рік тому +5

    Thank you so much naman sir. I was waiting for the full video very eagerly...
    N yeah independence day special... Nyc surprise... 🎉...
    I like it... Not just the video but the timing of uploading of the video too... 😊😊...
    I really admire your efforts to bring clarity to the youth. Otherwise most of the content is very delusional.

    • @namanshrivastava
      @namanshrivastava  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for your kind words! Wish you all the best! :)

    • @ShantanuB
      @ShantanuB Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the kind words, Sandhya

  • @garvitsaini3963
    @garvitsaini3963 Рік тому +14

    22:00 that’s what my father also once told me. That as a junior IFS officer sometimes you may even be expected to serve not the country but your superior. That’s very unprofessional. You get to live in a hostel, not as lavish as it might seem from a distance. Partly the reason why people end up choosing IAS over IFS. The least you can expect as an IAS is to get respect from general public, your peer and your relatives.

    • @silverstone8039
      @silverstone8039 Рік тому +14

      Who lives in a hostel dude. Almost all the officers I know live in big houses. Almost all of them are juniors. You are saying as if IAS and other services are too professional. Getting threatened by local gundas being IAS and IPS is not cool dude. It's funny how people assume things with very half knowledge.

    • @Andbhaktkabap1
      @Andbhaktkabap1 Рік тому +4

      ​@@silverstone8039sab ke sab...tu phele nikal fir bat karna kamot meh

    • @ramm8509
      @ramm8509 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Andbhaktkabap1abe hr kisi ko sarkar ka naokar bnne ka shok ni rhta or hr koi chutiya nahi rhta india me upsc hi nahi h or v hai bshut kuch aaj ambani adani ke niche ias ips sb aate h 😂 bda bno bda socho

    • @Andbhaktkabap1
      @Andbhaktkabap1 8 місяців тому +1

      @@ramm8509 acha..🤣🤣🤣 esa ha..kaya kha the gyani baba ap.. chupe hua the kaya.. sidha sidha bol.. sarkari naukari nahi toh UA-camr 🤣

    • @ramm8509
      @ramm8509 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Andbhaktkabap1 hr kisi ki fidrat nahi hoti bhai naokar bnne ki agr tujhe job security se brh kr kuch nahi h to kr government ke andar kamm meko to utta kuch intrest nii h meko to kuch alg krna thank you

  • @tanveenkaur9638
    @tanveenkaur9638 7 місяців тому +1

    Rest in paradise Sir ❤
    You are an inspiration for so many aspirants 🌺

  • @rudreshsingh307
    @rudreshsingh307 Рік тому +6

    Oh.. Finally. Behold.

  • @rogers5765
    @rogers5765 Рік тому +5

    Some quite insightful and informative quality content there naman thank you.

  • @pranushacheemarla300
    @pranushacheemarla300 Рік тому +7

    Interesting personality, thanks for uploading🙌

  • @sridamchandradey5423
    @sridamchandradey5423 10 місяців тому +2

    Om Shanti; Sir is no more 😔 Miss you and your work and Words ❤️

  • @muditchaudhary7255
    @muditchaudhary7255 8 місяців тому +1

    The problem is that the main of bureaucracy in india always was to maintain the status quo of the state in india and we have foolish expectations social problems needs social solutions not the political one

  • @abhishtasthana2637
    @abhishtasthana2637 Рік тому +6

    My dad was his batchmate at kendriya vidyalaya indore.

  • @anuragkadao6856
    @anuragkadao6856 Рік тому +8

    Very profound , loved it

  • @sidharthyadav4581
    @sidharthyadav4581 6 місяців тому +3

    Remove corruption and inequity from system and people wont look after govt jobs, like government schools. India will thrive

  • @behappy.796
    @behappy.796 8 місяців тому +1

    Those who resigned were maximum males , for females things are completely different(His wife would be supportive )but for women things aren't easier

  • @yashutalks5339
    @yashutalks5339 10 місяців тому +2

    Rest In Peace Sir❤

  • @rahulrd7276
    @rahulrd7276 5 місяців тому

    I can relate few of my thought process which matches with Mr Shantanu sir.......What an asset to the mankind.... Of course the interviewer and his team a big honest gratitude for doing these priceless masterpieces..........❤

  • @SAY-jf3hy
    @SAY-jf3hy Рік тому +1

    When u asked about the aspirational levels of civil services elsewhere , i immediately remembered reading that the only country indian bureaucracy can be compared with is ITALY. I won't add the adjectives here.

  • @shivanshkdubey3912
    @shivanshkdubey3912 Рік тому +4

    Finally ❤

  • @malabikakaushik5265
    @malabikakaushik5265 Рік тому +3

    Naman sir, I want to thank you for bringing him. Thank you ❤

    • @namanshrivastava
      @namanshrivastava  Рік тому +2

      Thank you! All the very best :)

    • @ShantanuB
      @ShantanuB Рік тому +1

      Malabika: Thanks for the kind words. The pleasure was mine.

  • @jugalkishoremahapatra2206
    @jugalkishoremahapatra2206 Рік тому +1

    What a fantastic and amazing conversation. Truly impressive. It cleared lot many doubts. Hardly I have ever heard such an erudite scholarly figure who talks so length and breadth.

  • @toshikarahe3230
    @toshikarahe3230 Рік тому +3

    Most awaited podcast is finally live now

    • @ShantanuB
      @ShantanuB Рік тому

      Toshi: Thanks for the kind words. Hope the wait was worth it.

  • @MemesMovies-yc7jr
    @MemesMovies-yc7jr 10 місяців тому +1

    May his soul rest in peace

  • @Abinash99
    @Abinash99 10 місяців тому +1

    Rest in peace... 😢

  • @scholar6582
    @scholar6582 Рік тому +4

    mast podcast thi
    aur esi podcast leke aaao
    waiting for more podcasts coming 💥💥

  • @akashkumaragrawal3960
    @akashkumaragrawal3960 11 місяців тому

    What a great and candid discussion it was 👌👌👌Very inspiring journey ...

  • @sonamgyaltshenbhutia5612
    @sonamgyaltshenbhutia5612 Рік тому +2

    Actually i have a question about the foreign services, do IFS officers engage in active coordination with the Indian military, navy, or air force, given that their primary objective is to represent and advocate for their nation's interests in international affairs involving other countries?

  • @khushbutrivedi791
    @khushbutrivedi791 5 місяців тому

    Informative and insightful ❤

  • @MithileshJha-tn3ks
    @MithileshJha-tn3ks Рік тому

    Something common public can relate and clearly understand

  • @siddhantmedhe4781
    @siddhantmedhe4781 Рік тому +1

    Thank you Naman sir.

  • @highlyambitious
    @highlyambitious Рік тому

    Naman sir, u r the beam of li8 that shades off the darkness of mind one has...here's a request, kindly do bring some courses or internship kind of thing in which we interested students can participate on basis of our interest on learning,growing,contributing and earning as well not on basis of wat degrees are we holding bcz there are lot of people like me who have interest and desire to work in an guided enviroment but no guidance also the traditional routes are very time consuming and tirey where one exausts his/her energy or get completely lost themselves..like I m witnessing now after giving two unsuccessful attempts in UPSC and switiching to State PSC which are so erratic...not to miss the increasing taunts and marriage pressure and lot many things when u feel crippled due to inability to improve family sitautions n miseries. So if u can help these kind of students it will be highly cherished and welcomed. Thank you
    Edit- I came to know about the GGI fellowship sir, may be its mean to ask but still I m asking tht could it be something like Pay after placement kind of thing. Cz it will be immensely immensely helpful for people like us. I cnt convey my interest to join such initiatives as well as cant convey wat circumstances going through.
    I will be very happy if this small msg reaches u Sir!

  • @i_play_chess_8564
    @i_play_chess_8564 Рік тому +2

    Bhai it was an amazing amazing podcast. Such quality content, such practical insights from someone who has been around the world.
    I'm an aspirant and I always wanted to pursue the foreign service, but had so many doubts regarding it, this discussion helped me clear like 70% of it. (While there is a lot of content available on administrative services, there is surprisingly much less information about the foreign services idk why)
    1 thing I wanted to know specifically was what exactly is the day to day work to be done in IFS (coz VIP visits, meetings are occasional , so I'm assuming the daily workload is much much lesser as compared to IAS?)
    Would love to see more content especially related to foreign services/diplomacy. ❤️🤞

  • @SAY-jf3hy
    @SAY-jf3hy Рік тому +4

    Watched the full podcast, Shantanu is probably a misfitter of his time.

  • @rajveerkrishnan
    @rajveerkrishnan Рік тому +2

    Just want only ifs officer❤❤

  • @vaibhavraj3376
    @vaibhavraj3376 Рік тому +1

    Quite insightful

  • @tapk1995
    @tapk1995 5 місяців тому +1

    India, Pak and Bangladesh are three countries left that still maintains the 3rd toughest exam on earth with brightest mugging students who crack to get those prestigious jobs with unlimited fuel & Cars with perks and decent cottages including police security for self and family and a Blue Beacon light on official car with VIP siren to drive them through crowded street. I bet the President & PM’s of half the world nations would envy. Yet Alas these 3 nations are one of the poorest of poor, where 80% to 95% graduates are jobless, broken infrastructure, school and health care, rampant corruption. What makes me wonder is the best nation on earth like Japan, China, Singapore, gulf countries and even Her highness modern UK do no have these fancy extra ordinary powerful Civil service officers with special privilege, yet they are 100 times far more prosperous and happy over these three nations manned by these extraordinary powerful civil service lobby who direct their presidents and prime ministers.

  • @HanuMa-y6p
    @HanuMa-y6p Рік тому +2

    Hmm. What next.

  • @chubiin20s36
    @chubiin20s36 Місяць тому

    How to be an Indian diplomat without cracking UPSC exam? I mean is there any other exams?? Or a way????

  • @lakshminarayanan5242
    @lakshminarayanan5242 6 місяців тому

    Thank you naman sir

  • @AlpitSakcham22
    @AlpitSakcham22 3 місяці тому +1

    Sir I have only one question....
    how did you learn english like this because I understand what are you speaking but sometimes I stuck some words....so sir how you improve vocabulary from this level....❤

  • @bhagat_metaphor
    @bhagat_metaphor Рік тому +1

    I don’t want the power to go in hands of irresponsible so i want IAS but at same time don’t want to be the man on Elephant but iam sure i will end up some day being the man on elephants but ok. If still things go wrong I will become try to become analyst will try to work till my nex generation reach in 20s

  • @mv1022
    @mv1022 3 місяці тому +1

    Dear naman.I dont know why you have so much negativity towards the civil services.Its true that CSE is overhyped.and its not as glamourous as potrayed in our society.But it is necessary that youth should pursue the services so that the quality of the services improves..It is important to remember that many officers have silently worked for ages.without any credit.Most recently .if you take the case of covid 19.When politicians were running away.it were the officers who were coordinating medical help and managing hospitals.and doctors.. It is so easy to give up..To blame the system.But if nobody pursues CS.i donno in which direction our country will go.So please put aside Grapes are Sour attitude..and stop the negativity..

  • @Muleslover
    @Muleslover Рік тому +2

    Such sessiona are need more than anything else other tham coaching flase glamarisation of success story of #UPSc passed candidate who often talk preplaned wish of coaching #mafia.

  • @jjrahij
    @jjrahij Рік тому

    Naman bro which application you use for this podcast.....it is best quality so plz tell....

  • @epictetus__
    @epictetus__ Рік тому

    Bookmark : 36:00

  • @smgyan123
    @smgyan123 4 місяці тому

    I would seriously recommend to do this kind of podcast in Hindi with English subtitles. People can't learn to respect own culture unless they feel attached to that. This language is very dangerous, works as silent culture killer. Unless you force to stick to your mother tongue at least at public speaking. Your none of the ideas will be assimilate by indians. Unless you speak their language, indian will never accept any of ur suggestions. Unless you guys stop projecting yourself a kind of seperate elite class than the rest of the indians, your entire effort n time will be waste. You have to consciously throw Macaulay out of life at least at public forum so that masses understand you n respect your achievement better. Your efforts will be waste my friend.

  • @atulgupta2152
    @atulgupta2152 Рік тому

    ❤❤

  • @samarsamurai9991
    @samarsamurai9991 4 місяці тому

    bhai sb thik hai pr camera idhr hai🧐

  • @sonalumate13
    @sonalumate13 6 місяців тому

    Music was not needed at all..

  • @jyotipande8146
    @jyotipande8146 9 місяців тому +2

    Do not understand why anybody from Madhya Pradesh , Indore, must come from a "humble background". About 1 hour 30 minutes

  • @ayushtailor9941
    @ayushtailor9941 4 місяці тому

    Wow

  • @shubham16716
    @shubham16716 Рік тому +1

    49:25 Do you already had an offer from LBS before resigning from services...... I think there is a grammatical error in this sentence 🤔

    • @manvendranigam2446
      @manvendranigam2446 10 місяців тому

      He would have cleared GMAT and deffered offer, Sri vatsa Krishna ( ias Topper had done from Harward B school)

  • @aiswaryaswain9462
    @aiswaryaswain9462 Рік тому +1

    Good evening Naman sir . Is there any way to talk to you once via any media possible

  • @GlocalKhabar-ft6us
    @GlocalKhabar-ft6us 6 місяців тому

    Dear Naman
    How can I connect with Shantanu Sir?

  • @Brodragon2225
    @Brodragon2225 Рік тому +11

    corrupt only survives in service

  • @shubhamchauhan6836
    @shubhamchauhan6836 7 місяців тому +1

    Is see govt services as parrots in cage , rather be a top class engineer , surgeon , NAMAN BHAI i like ur background music 🎵

  • @Blueeyettan
    @Blueeyettan 2 місяці тому +1

    Bro why are you so negative ?

    • @Immortal_lion99
      @Immortal_lion99 Місяць тому +1

      he is truthful. If you feel its negative then you are either brainwashed or have a really thin skin, and emotionally unstable mind who starts to cry at the smallest insult.

  • @tejusm4510
    @tejusm4510 8 місяців тому

    Lol video is very long. Can anybody type it in short please.