This is just absolutely beautiful, I really want to make one in my backyard close to my firepit! It will be so fun to climb while having a nice fire with friends
If you reset the board, make sure to screw in your bolts by hand for a couple of turns. That prevents your bolt from getting stuck and ruining your t-nuts. However: Really nice board. Which I had enough space for this.
I without researching ordered about 50 'chip' holds... They are the smallest footholds ever! So small! So I ordered some other ones from rocky mountain climbing gear and they were a bit better. Sounds like you got lucky with all of those holds you got nice!!
I got very lucky! I had a similar experience with the Tension holds. I thought the "small crimps" were going to be bigger so that's what I ordered the most of but they are so small and hard I hardly use those and mainly use the medium sized holds. Lesson learned!
Awesome video! Great content! i saw some of the previous comments. I cant wait for the detail video of how you built your board, timber used, size etc. Me and my partner really keen to build one! CANT WAIT!!
Hey! After quarantine i'm planning on building one myself, maybe not that size, a little less big. But the one you have is so nice. Any chance you could post pictures of the structure, in order to have idea where to reinforce and so on. Thanks and good training during theses difficult times!
Nice looking board and a well presented video but surely the structure is incorrect. The main members should be fixed so that their greater dimension is perpendicular to the direction in which they'll flex under loading. You've built it so the shorter side of the timber does. If you think of your board as a timber floor tilted up to a 40 degree angle, you'll understand what I'm getting at. Floor joists are fixed in 'portrait' format, not 'landscape', ie. they're orientated perpendicular to the plane of the floor. Was there some reason you built it this way?
The board was made to have as small of a footprint as possible while being freestanding and serving its function. I have no experience building anything, but this board. I believe I understand what you are saying, but I have to say the force on the wall created from climbing is not significant enough to ever be an issue on this structure; it's really solid! That being said, I'm sure it could be much better, no doubt about it! But it works for me and I think it'd work for just about everyone else trying to do the same!
Cheers for the reply. My suggestion wouldn't make the footprint any larger. The shot at 5:37 shows that the 4" face of the frames will sit behind the boards, not the 2" face, which is the stronger orientation. That's all I was really getting at. I've made a few woodies and every other one I've seen has the framing structure that way. But hey, if it works and you're happy with it (and using it! ) that's the main thing. I dismantled my last one due to moving house and haven't rebuilt it in the new place ... feels like now is the time! Cheers and stay safe! F
@@frfr335 Oh I see! Yea I don't think we put much thought into the orientation of that piece, I'm thinking we had it like that because of the way the kicker lined up better. That is definitely something I'll keep in mind when others ask me about what can be done differently. Right now is definitely the time, woodies are the only place to climb at the moment so it's worth it!
@@TheGrant729 I've c&p'd this from a web page I found: 4 In the context of engineering calculations this is down to a property called 'second moment of area', the way that this is defined is a bit obtuse but is describing something which is reasonably intuitive. If you consider a joist, supported at both ends with a weight at a point in the middle it will (obviously) bend. This bending force is trying to stretch the bottom edge and compress the top edge so logically there is a line along the middle where it is neither bending nor compressing and similarly the greatest stress is at the top and bottom edge, decreasing towards the middle. If you do the full analysis it turns out that the stiffness of the beam is directly proportional to its width but also to the cube of it's depth. So, in terms of bending the distance between centreline and edge of a beam (in the direction of load) is much more important than just its cross-sectional area. By extension the material near the centreline is contributing much less to the stiffness than material near the edge and something like an I-beam is just a way of dispensing with much of this material which is adding mass but not contributing much to stiffness. BACK TO MY INPUT NOW: as a simple illustration of increased depth being a critical factor in structural stability of spanning members, flatten an empty corn flakes packet and position it across an open drawer so that each end is only just being supported. If you lay it 'flat' over the drawer, (this is the equivalent of having the wide, 4" part of the woodie installed as Breaking Beta has done) you can easily push it down to deflect it. But if you stand it on end and try to push the middle down again, it'll be much stiffer and better withstand the attempt to deflect it. Hopefully that helps to explain why it's better to have the timber framing the 'other way round'. As I mentioned in my original post, the structure is acting just like a series of floor joists, only the woodie is on an angle.
Not going to lie, during the summer I hardly touch the wall because it's so hot haha I need to put up something for shade at least so I'd recommend that if it's going outside
I really enjoyed this video and the awesomeness of that wall. But the background music was a bit too loud, at least for me. Had a little trouble listening to you talking while a funky saxophone tune is blasting on the background.
Honestly it wasn't that bad screwing all of the screw in t nuts and for that reason I would just play it safe and use those. I think one of the biggest things i learned is that it is worth investing more time and money into the board to make sure it lasts a really long time.
Thank you! The kick board is one foot; if you want more details I actually went over measurements and more in a Part 2 I just posted last night! ua-cam.com/video/AMykZJDDWJs/v-deo.html
Thanks! I'm glad I can help with my own experience. Most recently I had to replace some of the bolts because they weren't stainless steel and it's outside so don't make the same mistake!
That was a mistake I made! My first order was normal ones, the next was stainless steel, so I had half of each. Long story short I have recently replaced all of the normal ones with stainless steel bolts!
It's actually padding from our gym that was left over! I have two different pieces still wrapped in the plastic it came in so eventually I'll cover them with some good weather resistant material
I'm actually using some leftover padding from the climbing gym I used to work at. If you wanted to use crash pads I would recommend Mad Rock Duo or Mad Pads as those can velcro together to make a larger surface!
Are Jay or Johny available to hire for a build. Trying to build a wall for my daughter. I caught in the video that you're in Arcadia. I'm down in Temecula, so not too far...
Jay might be interested! He's the one that really did the majority of the work and planning. I can ask him and I can comment back if he'd like to do that!
The board is free standing! We are on a rental property so we wanted to make sure we didn't have to drill into the cement. The triangle frame supports itself extremely well, it is very sturdy
This is BEAUTIFUL, I love it! I'm looking to build one myself and was wondering if you had a physical plan that you'd be willing to share..? And just double checking, this is free standing right? Not cemented in, or attached to a wall/ or anything else? Thank you :)
Thank you! It is free standing, just the board supporting itself, no attachment to cement or other structures. I unfortunately do not have anything like that, YET. Since this is very needed right now I might try to create something to help people build this. Keep an eye out on these videos, I'll try to get an exact part list, plan with dimensions, and everything of that sort, out soon!
@@BreakingBeta that would be great! I have been searching for a design that is truly free-standing and doesn't require cement, attic or basement wall supports.
@@BreakingBeta Yes - my mummy, sister and I have all had the virus and only my daddy hasn't. I want a board so I can climb as all of our walls are shut :(
@@LennyKOClimbs I'm so sorry to hear that! I hope you are feeling much better. You can always start planning the board, what the cost would be, what supplies you'll need, how it will look, and just have all of that ready for the day you can make it!
That's actually just a personal rule a lot of climbers use. Technically I don't believe neither the moon or tension boards have a rule agains matching or even heel hooking. Sometimes the climb you chose might have a note saying no matching and in that case it is off!
How does this dude strip so many t-nuts?? I’ve worked in a gym for 2 years and I’ve only stripped maybe 2 nuts. Also why did he paint after he completed the project? And then complain about it. Also 500$ seems expensive
Part 2 with measurements and details is live now! ua-cam.com/video/AMykZJDDWJs/v-deo.html
How did you know 8 months ago that we would all be quarantined dying to climb... so we all begin to consider building our own
yep, feeling the same right now! i just don't have the money or the space for it haha
@@TheMilouna got the space and money, but all the wood shops are closed!
Sick journey, thanks for sharing!
I bet having this during quarantine is a God send! I really need one right now
Definitely! It's a great investment if you're as addicted to climbing as I am!
I will have a new video with specific measurement and details on Thursday April 2nd, 2020!
when will it be uploaded?
@@chasemiller8244 I'm still working on it so I'm gonna say maybe at about 7pm Pacific Time
Breaking Beta sounds good! I’m getting started first thing tomorrow!
@@chasemiller8244 Looking more like 9pm! I'm trying to make it as nice as possible, don't want to sacrifice quality!
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Very nice dude!!
Thank you!
This was so chilled to watch. 👍
This is just absolutely beautiful, I really want to make one in my backyard close to my firepit! It will be so fun to climb while having a nice fire with friends
That sounds so ideal! Do it, this is the time to have a home wall!
Really enjoying your climbing content. :)
I'm so glad to hear that! I hope to only get better and better! I'm stoked to check out your channel right now!
music is so loud to voice. im sure you've learnd this since 4 years ago, but great video overall!
Yes 100%. Thanks!
More videos from your home climbing wall please :D It's looks really good! I'm about to start my own build in a few weeks
Will do! I'll try to put out another wall video in the next week or two!
If you reset the board, make sure to screw in your bolts by hand for a couple of turns. That prevents your bolt from getting stuck and ruining your t-nuts. However: Really nice board. Which I had enough space for this.
arcadia has such good climbing
I without researching ordered about 50 'chip' holds... They are the smallest footholds ever! So small! So I ordered some other ones from rocky mountain climbing gear and they were a bit better. Sounds like you got lucky with all of those holds you got nice!!
I got very lucky! I had a similar experience with the Tension holds. I thought the "small crimps" were going to be bigger so that's what I ordered the most of but they are so small and hard I hardly use those and mainly use the medium sized holds. Lesson learned!
Awesome video! Great content! i saw some of the previous comments. I cant wait for the detail video of how you built your board, timber used, size etc. Me and my partner really keen to build one! CANT WAIT!!
Hey! After quarantine i'm planning on building one myself, maybe not that size, a little less big. But the one you have is so nice. Any chance you could post pictures of the structure, in order to have idea where to reinforce and so on. Thanks and good training during theses difficult times!
Yes! I am convinced I have to make a detailed video on the board and I'll try to have that done asap so keep an eye out for that!
@@BreakingBeta that's awesome! We're looking to build our own and details and measurements would be super helpful
Awesome video! Thanks for the inspiration!
Amazing. Keep going. This video is such amazing quality!
Thank you so much! I will definitely continue doing my best on all of my videos!
Great job. Congrats
Thank you!
Why not choose going to Lowe's for next projects. Experience is very different.
I am actually going to use Lowe's from now on!
This is a cool and fun idea!
Nice looking board and a well presented video but surely the structure is incorrect. The main members should be fixed so that their greater dimension is perpendicular to the direction in which they'll flex under loading. You've built it so the shorter side of the timber does. If you think of your board as a timber floor tilted up to a 40 degree angle, you'll understand what I'm getting at. Floor joists are fixed in 'portrait' format, not 'landscape', ie. they're orientated perpendicular to the plane of the floor. Was there some reason you built it this way?
The board was made to have as small of a footprint as possible while being freestanding and serving its function. I have no experience building anything, but this board. I believe I understand what you are saying, but I have to say the force on the wall created from climbing is not significant enough to ever be an issue on this structure; it's really solid! That being said, I'm sure it could be much better, no doubt about it! But it works for me and I think it'd work for just about everyone else trying to do the same!
Cheers for the reply. My suggestion wouldn't make the footprint any larger. The shot at 5:37 shows that the 4" face of the frames will sit behind the boards, not the 2" face, which is the stronger orientation. That's all I was really getting at. I've made a few woodies and every other one I've seen has the framing structure that way. But hey, if it works and you're happy with it (and using it! ) that's the main thing. I dismantled my last one due to moving house and haven't rebuilt it in the new place ... feels like now is the time! Cheers and stay safe! F
@@frfr335 Oh I see! Yea I don't think we put much thought into the orientation of that piece, I'm thinking we had it like that because of the way the kicker lined up better. That is definitely something I'll keep in mind when others ask me about what can be done differently. Right now is definitely the time, woodies are the only place to climb at the moment so it's worth it!
@@frfr335 why does having the 2'' face make it stronger and have less flex?
@@TheGrant729 I've c&p'd this from a web page I found:
4
In the context of engineering calculations this is down to a property called 'second moment of area', the way that this is defined is a bit obtuse but is describing something which is reasonably intuitive.
If you consider a joist, supported at both ends with a weight at a point in the middle it will (obviously) bend. This bending force is trying to stretch the bottom edge and compress the top edge so logically there is a line along the middle where it is neither bending nor compressing and similarly the greatest stress is at the top and bottom edge, decreasing towards the middle.
If you do the full analysis it turns out that the stiffness of the beam is directly proportional to its width but also to the cube of it's depth.
So, in terms of bending the distance between centreline and edge of a beam (in the direction of load) is much more important than just its cross-sectional area.
By extension the material near the centreline is contributing much less to the stiffness than material near the edge and something like an I-beam is just a way of dispensing with much of this material which is adding mass but not contributing much to stiffness.
BACK TO MY INPUT NOW: as a simple illustration of increased depth being a critical factor in structural stability of spanning members, flatten an empty corn flakes packet and position it across an open drawer so that each end is only just being supported. If you lay it 'flat' over the drawer, (this is the equivalent of having the wide, 4" part of the woodie installed as Breaking Beta has done) you can easily push it down to deflect it. But if you stand it on end and try to push the middle down again, it'll be much stiffer and better withstand the attempt to deflect it.
Hopefully that helps to explain why it's better to have the timber framing the 'other way round'. As I mentioned in my original post, the structure is acting just like a series of floor joists, only the woodie is on an angle.
can you go more in depth about the structure of the wall
Send me a DM on Instagram and I can give you more details! @breaking.beta
Thinking about doing this. Not looking forward to the 100+ degree weather lol
Not going to lie, during the summer I hardly touch the wall because it's so hot haha I need to put up something for shade at least so I'd recommend that if it's going outside
I really enjoyed this video and the awesomeness of that wall. But the background music was a bit too loud, at least for me. Had a little trouble listening to you talking while a funky saxophone tune is blasting on the background.
Thanks for the feedback! That's good to know for future videos!
The music is too loud mate. I can't listen to what you are saying. It's very annoying
Thanks for the feedback! It's good to hear it so I can apply it on newer videos.
Ill be building something similar soon, if you dont plan on moving hand holds do you think the pronged T nuts would work better?
Honestly it wasn't that bad screwing all of the screw in t nuts and for that reason I would just play it safe and use those. I think one of the biggest things i learned is that it is worth investing more time and money into the board to make sure it lasts a really long time.
what a winger every job is like this
Where did you get the tension holds from?
They occasionally put blemished ones on sale on their website!
Great video man! What's the size of your kick board? I'm in the process of building a wall too. Thanks!
Thank you! The kick board is one foot; if you want more details I actually went over measurements and more in a Part 2 I just posted last night! ua-cam.com/video/AMykZJDDWJs/v-deo.html
Shoutout to my boy jonny! Always got the 🔥 sets at east riverside
I spy some vegan items in your fridge. Good on you, dude!
dope video! so helpful!
Thanks! I'm glad I can help with my own experience. Most recently I had to replace some of the bolts because they weren't stainless steel and it's outside so don't make the same mistake!
What is the height and length of the entire build?
I'm curious if you used stainless steel bolts and t-nuts so they won't rust, or did you just use normal ones?
That was a mistake I made! My first order was normal ones, the next was stainless steel, so I had half of each. Long story short I have recently replaced all of the normal ones with stainless steel bolts!
What did you use for the padding? Looks like mattress foam maybe?
It's actually padding from our gym that was left over! I have two different pieces still wrapped in the plastic it came in so eventually I'll cover them with some good weather resistant material
What's the thickness of your plywood
It's 3/4 of an inch
What kind of crash pad are you using???
I'm actually using some leftover padding from the climbing gym I used to work at. If you wanted to use crash pads I would recommend Mad Rock Duo or Mad Pads as those can velcro together to make a larger surface!
Good shit dude!
Are Jay or Johny available to hire for a build. Trying to build a wall for my daughter. I caught in the video that you're in Arcadia. I'm down in Temecula, so not too far...
Jay might be interested! He's the one that really did the majority of the work and planning. I can ask him and I can comment back if he'd like to do that!
@@BreakingBeta Much appreciated! Thank you.
How did you secure your board to the ground?
The board is free standing! We are on a rental property so we wanted to make sure we didn't have to drill into the cement. The triangle frame supports itself extremely well, it is very sturdy
This is BEAUTIFUL, I love it! I'm looking to build one myself and was wondering if you had a physical plan that you'd be willing to share..? And just double checking, this is free standing right? Not cemented in, or attached to a wall/ or anything else? Thank you :)
Thank you! It is free standing, just the board supporting itself, no attachment to cement or other structures. I unfortunately do not have anything like that, YET. Since this is very needed right now I might try to create something to help people build this. Keep an eye out on these videos, I'll try to get an exact part list, plan with dimensions, and everything of that sort, out soon!
@@BreakingBeta Thank you!!
@@BreakingBeta that would be great! I have been searching for a design that is truly free-standing and doesn't require cement, attic or basement wall supports.
Wow, how did you survive working in 80 degree weather? :b
It's what I'm used to every summer in California unfortunately haha
@@BreakingBeta No sympathy from this Texan. :)
Damnd this is awesome great job! I want to build a board like yours how strong is your plywood 20 mm?
Yea just about! 3/4 of an inch!
Great video! I’m 7 and I make climbing videos - I’m trying to persuade my daddy to make one for me 😀
It's definitely worth it! Specially right about now!
@@BreakingBeta Yes - my mummy, sister and I have all had the virus and only my daddy hasn't. I want a board so I can climb as all of our walls are shut :(
@@LennyKOClimbs I'm so sorry to hear that! I hope you are feeling much better. You can always start planning the board, what the cost would be, what supplies you'll need, how it will look, and just have all of that ready for the day you can make it!
dope vid!
Thanks! It took a lot of work!
no matching on a board
That's actually just a personal rule a lot of climbers use. Technically I don't believe neither the moon or tension boards have a rule agains matching or even heel hooking. Sometimes the climb you chose might have a note saying no matching and in that case it is off!
How much was all this
I don't recall exactly, but I spent roughly $1,000 usd on everything including a couple hundred holds and some pay for my friend that helped.
How does this dude strip so many t-nuts?? I’ve worked in a gym for 2 years and I’ve only stripped maybe 2 nuts. Also why did he paint after he completed the project? And then complain about it. Also 500$ seems expensive
Dude that's rad, keep up your no nut stripping streak!
@@BreakingBeta no nut november
Why? Why do people use such obnoxious canned music?
I just use bangers that i can license ;) this song definitely didn't come from a can though
how tall is this wall
The climbing surface is 12 feet long (plus a 1 foot kicker), but from top to floor it is just under 10 feet