good evening, i'm glad to be writing on my favorite channel again after a while. because i remember you have several hard drives i would suggest you try unraid (i was also a synology fan) but you have a limit of up to 30 drives. but also think i have a server that does everything. (vm, docker, media server, openvpn and many more)
@@MyPlayHouse But i must say it's worth checking Unraid. I switched over 3 years now and love everything about it, especially the storage part and Virtual machine capability of Unraid. You can try it out for free for a short time, just to see what it is and does 😉 By the way... keep on the good vids my friend👍👍 big respect for all the things you do and share with us.. Greetings from The Netherlands
@@MyPlayHouse - Haha, but you are right. What i mean is all the possibilities we have with our IBM/Lenovo hardware. I got 5 M900 ThinkCentre (top quality seen the housing) and boostet them to the max of Hardware. These are really hell machines now. ;-)
I don't know what has happend, but the quality of this video (and by that I mean the content) has gotten way better since last time I visited your channel.
My main server uses qumulo with 230 TB of space for animation production. For the second storage I use truenas ZFS 100TB because it can do RAM cache and SSD Cache for save money.
@10:50 in Linux (and most Unix-like systems) there is the notion of "one tool for one job". The LVM is just that: a manager for logical drives, no more, no less (although in newer versions it can actually also do RAID on its own - the OMV plugin doesnt support this though). But you can stack devices on top of each other. If you want redundancy just use a RAID as the underlying device for the LVM. E.g. create a RAID device on the physical disks /dev/sda - /dev/sdd. This RAID will show up as a new device called something like /dev/md0. Then create your LVM using this /dev/md0 as the LVM's "physical device". You can even squeeze an encryption layer in between if you like :-) (either on top of the raid - so even the LVM metadata are encrypted - or on top of the logical volume, so only the filesystem inside the volume will be encrypted; you could even run encryption on the physical disks, before they are raid'ed together, but this comes at a major performance loss, as there will be multiple encryptions running in parallel on every access to the raid)
Think having screw driver batteries in series give you more volts (volts of bat A + bat B) so should run faster, but having them in parallel give you volts of one battery hence slower speed, but more amps (torque) so should get higher turning force.
@@MyPlayHouse no problem. NB heard u mention your folding@home so am supporting that as well 🙂 got 6 old computer motherboards running FAH and several BOINC projects plus all the world community grid projects via BOINC
LVM can do RAID by itself, maybe the option is just not in the Web UI. If you log into the command line you can try a command like this: lvcreate --type raid6 --stripes 6 --size 10T --name "Test-vol2" "Mega-Store" This will create a new 10 terabyte logical volume named "Test-vol2" across eight physical drives using RAID6 for redundancy. You can change the values in the command and repeat this to create as many virtual drives as you desire. The system will automatically chose appropriate drives from the pool by itself. Btw: If you're wondering why this command will use 8 drives even though 6 were specified it is because it does not count the parity drives. For more information check out the appropriate man pages.
174tb would be good for a media server like Plex and as general storage for all the PC's on the network, would also be good for a NVR too. I currently have a 21tb array(12x2tb) pooled using Drivebender.
Hi there, i would very much like you to test MergerFS/UnionFS and Snapraid together in OpenMediavault. These are plugins for OMV..How does it behave. reading/writing speeds and sync/build speed.
I would explore TrueNAS. But OMV is a really good solution if you want a fairly entry level turn key situation. I'd probably never fill more than 20TB of that because I don't do anything that would require me to have very large file sizes or that many individual files.
Based on what you described I don't think unraid is what you are looking for either. Unraid builds a giant pool and you can use mixed drives but your largest drives have to always be your 1 or 2 redundancy drives. Unraid does this by not striping the data across the array and instead writing to one disk at a time. You can control where stuff writes and how much storage it is allowed but all the "Redundancy" is handled underneath that. Plus as other's have mentioned even with the pro license you are limited to 30 drives total. What you are talking about is something that I believe LVMs in linux could handle, but I have no experience with that personally so I might be wrong.
I use true nas only down side is you need 1gb of ram per TB. I would use it for the videos I make. Can easily fill up a 2TB HD after a weekend of filming.
well ceph is far too complicated, and it is distributed architecture, so you need min. 3 nodes for OSDs, flash for DB, ideally monitor nodes seperately, then need a load balance and a seperated public and cluster networks, and this is just the beginning..... :) and all in command line..... there is a solution from croit.io which is simple and gui based....
Ceph is basically the only real competitor that Windows Storage Pools have that does the same thing... And then some really as Ceph also does other stuff. There's a lot of limitations to Ceph though like no free windows clients and such though. And it's pretty complex to set up. With the trouble Morten had just to get GPU passthrough to work in Proxmox... I'm not entirely sure he has the technical skills to fully working Ceph cluster. No complaint really, but linux software config just doesn't seem like his forte.
@@cagataykilic7978 gui installers are not cheap at least for a computer science student 😅. Actually I am planning a ceph deployment for openstack . So I am bit curious about it. And learning a lot of new things in this process.
@@MyPlayHouse Proxmox is enterprise ready and I thought i would be great idea for such a large pool of drives and having nodes makes downtime zero to none. OMV is not enterprise ready and Freenas is in transition so Debian and Ubuntu is left. For large storage I always look what 45drives are developing. Good luck!
Have you considered ZFS (so TrueNAS ) but using the copies attribute for redundancy which is set per dataset ? It's definitely not as good as a proper RAIDZ. copies is exposed by the GUI now
use it as a backup backup server i.e all your backups from all the servers etc also get backed up there as a backup backup i.e you know if your lookimg for a file and not sure what server its on at least you could use it from there as a short term use and replace the master copy etc.
You don't need the metal bracket in the HP trays, I think it's just there for stability, but not 100% sure. I run around 14 older HP servers and most of them don't use any metal trays.The gen8 and later even removed that
@@MyPlayHouse right now i use only 14tb for plex , about 2 tb for my personal photos and a litle bit for music. On my last configuracion i try storage spaces on windows 10 bit i have problems with it .My files was available only for read .Тhen I switched to hardware raid ;)
I would use it for backing up my bluray and dvd collection. It is so convenient to just start a media center like kodi, and simply select a movie or TV-show from the folders without searching for the correct disk. :D Also recording gameplay footage as well as 4K videos from cameras can take up a lot of space. I'm at about 100 TB (sadly just JBOD)on my main Server at home right now, next thing for me is to build a backup server with an RAIDZ(or Z2) or also wit Windows Storage spaces. Btw. Synologys Hybrid RAID is also more or less like Windows Storage Spaces. It also can take HDDs of different capacities and use them all in one storage pool. There is also a way to run Synologys DSM on normal PC hardware. It is called XPEnology. But I'm not sure if it supports external storage boxes.
if you mount the filesystem in open media vault I was able to use a drive with data on it. unraid sounds like what you want. omv is just an opensource none bsd nas/vm/docker system based on the bones of good old Debian.
What will I do with that amount storage (at home)? First, I'll use it as "an intermediate stop" in the way of organizing the data on all my external drives and remote ftp/nas/cloudish servers. After that I'll try different things and will try to either blow my electricity bill or blow some of the drives. :D Maybe I'll run a zip bomb, just to see how long it will take to fill all that space. :D :D :D
Hi, I watch your videos all the time and really enjoy them. Can I ask what you need all the storage for !! ? its not an idiot question I'm just curios Thanks take care
Hi Morten, I use allot of Storage for my Videos, that I make. I bought a 4k camera a while back. Now, I'm using even more. I'm about to fill up my 8TB & 5TB Backup Drives. So, that's what I would use allot for Disk Space for. I'm running Fedora 32 Linux on my HP DL380 G7 Server, now. Soon, I will be upgrading to Fedora 33. There is a System Admin App called Cockpit. Which allows you to manage Storage, RAID, LVM, Volume Groups and iSCSI Targets on a Fedora Linux System. It's very easy to use and you can use any type of drive, you wish. Right now, I'm using 6 HP SAS Drives for the OS and the 8TB USB SATA Drive for Backup Storage. I haven't actually used Cockpit, to set this up. I didn't need it, when installing the OS. I used the Installer. But, when I get 2 more 8 TB USB SATA Drives. I plan on "Shucking the Drives" and using them in the other 2 HD Slots on the G7 for Backup. I watch most all of your videos. But, I'm especially interested in Big Storage, right now. I'm wondering if I could save some money, if I buy a used Storage System. Say an HP, that come's with some Drives. But, then there's the Electricity Costs and Noise, to consider. You can, among other things. Install and Manage Virtual Machines with Cockpit. Here's are a couple of Screen Shots ( photos.app.goo.gl/9wvNPETEJLag5FdY7 ). Which is Probably how I will setup my Web Server. Right now, it's running on an old Dell 6000 Laptop. I did a few videos on Cockpit, in Fedora 28 and 29. This one, gives a pretty good overview on Cockpit ( ua-cam.com/video/aombwIoxVs8/v-deo.html ). But, the Virtual Machine Management was not implemented back then... Don
@@MyPlayHouse Ya, I have 1000+ on my channel too. And allot more, that I haven't uploaded or don't plan to. Many of my videos are Live Streams (now at 1440P). Which I also make a 4k backup video, in case my stream fails. So, its really adding up, fast... Don
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Nice 2 see it up and running without disk or hba issues👍 Lookin' forward to see the different OS tests. Those IBM trays indeed look better, what's the part number?
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Nice video. Sometimes I go a little crazy like you do in some of your videos :-D The open media vault plugin for LVM seems to not support logical volumes as raid. LVM itself is able to handle that. lvcreate --type raid6 -i 3 -L 1G -n my_lv my_vg creates a logical volume with 3 data stripes + 2 parity information of the size of 1GB.
There is hardware raid, and windows storage. There is freenas or true Nas as it's now called. There is ispconf, which is like a VM host for web connected clients. Webmin also offers this. FileZilla, If that's still a thing. There is xpenology. Take a look through the forge at the projects., There is next cloud, my cloud .
I have 75TB in my plex lib and its growing like 15GB per day at least a bit more once I rip my BD collection to just add batches to it, so I can just fill it after a month or 3
Why not just run TrueNAS? Also at this point, I would think that unless the person is a content creator it would be pretty hard to fill 147TB NAS these days. Even if they were shooting a lot of 4k home video. These days I try to keep my home server idling at or below 30 watts and keeping the peak power consumption under 250 watts. I teach video productions at a school and we only have 30TB of total drive space among all of the drives we use in our NAS and backup NAS. We also have 10TB of cloud storage but we don't store uncompressed footage for very long as that is kinda pointless these days. Even with a fairly high bitrate for H.264 or H.265 between 70 and 150 Megabits/second that is only about 31.5 to 67.5 GigaBytes/hour of footage before we edit and compress it down to something that UA-cam will be happy with which is usually around 17-24Mbit/s for 1080p/30, 30-35Mbit/s for 1080p/60, 35-45 for 4K/30p and 55-70 for 4K/60p. I would think that for most quality content creation on UA-cam with only 1-4 people working on content, people can get by with 2-8TB of SSD Storage and maybe 10-40TB of Bulk storage for the majority of channels.
I would definitely say go with andrade I moved away from Windows because of all the issues that I was having with Drive being seen or just failing for no apparent reason so what I would recommend is to go with unraid and I understand that it is paid but it's worth paying for because of all the features you get and that supports the development of the actual software and it's rather nice it pulls the drives in a pool but it uses them individually so if one of the driver dies you only lose the data on that drive you won't leave the data across all the drives so it's not quite raid but it's, a pool that will allow you to have multiple drive connected and have Drive fail or not and also you do get one redundant parody Drive just in case any of your drive die there will be a backup of the data now I shouldn't got a backup it's more just a safe place to store redundant data so that you can then restore it later
unRaid -> can power down drives when setup - they all works as individual drives speeds - parity 2x highest size drives, everything else same or lower size - docker with pass through - volumes across all drives - adding to array is easy with the correct app - make sure you have at least 1x SSD/M.2(in adapter or on board) - sees every device I have put into it. Down side of unRaid removing drives (from the array) you got to power down the array - only 2x parity drives - one off payment - the licence key registers to the USB (only that one) - selecting the correct apps for your own use case. Space invader one is doing a series on the new 6.9.x Any issues give me a shout
@@PenguinCinema Thats why I stated "use case" If you want to keep all the drives spinning (for access speed) and then TCO will continue to cost in electric, But if the drives only need to spin up when needed (when accessed) like student access or plex server or VM use then unRaid is the way forward. And not limited by hardware choices then unRaid again. Freenas needs a boot HDD due to amount of writes needed and kills off SSD faster like proxmox. unRaid needs a 4Gb flash drive then runs in RAM.
@@SimonLally1975 I mean my drives don't spin 24/7, and what's this about individual drive speeds? With Unraid aren't you stuck with the slowest disk speed among all your disks? What do you do when one fails? How does it handle different size disks when you have parity calculations?
@@PenguinCinema OK easy explanation is:- Max 2x parity disks (2 can fail and still data is safe). Parity disk(s) must be the largest or the same as your largest data drive. The access is as fast as that particular drive speed (SSD will not go down to HDD speed). unRaid in disks menu (not by default) use a spin-down feature (use 98w instead of running all the disks 24/7 268w) depending on hardware. (dual xeon, Nvidia GPU and dual 10Gb fibre card) Any size drive can be used as long as the parity disk(s) are larger and you get the full amount of that data drive (parity drives sizes are lost) e.g. 4x 10TB (2x parity only 20TB data) e.g. 10x 10TB (2x parity only 80TB data) e.g. 30x 10TB (2x parity only 280TB data) different HDD file types out the box:- xfs btrfs reisferfs and all the above types with encryption No allocation of RAM for the file system (zfs) 3GB RAM for the OS and the rest is cached when needed (64GB total in my case)
I dont think the idea is good. I mean, I have a lot of drives, lot of different datasets and more than a lot of different shares. Creating a pool, and within the pool creating a virtual disk and let everything managed by the os itself is the perfect way to overcomplicate things. I always recommend TrueNas Core as I use it as my main nas/san host. Use zfs, I dont need thst much memory, so the 1gb/tb rule isn't needed if you dont do Deduplication. So with only 8gb of ram you can have as much storage as you want as long as you don't need dedup. And yeah, TrueNas and OpenMediaVault dont allow mixing drive sizes, but as I see, you have enough drives with the same capacity so in your case it shouldn't be a big of a deal. You mentioned Unraid, and you have to have license to use all of your drives and yeah, it's a paid service. So I would like to recommend TrueNas Cire instead of any other crappy thing
TrueNasCore can pool the drives based on storage i believe.
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good evening, i'm glad to be writing on my favorite channel again after a while. because i remember you have several hard drives i would suggest you try unraid (i was also a synology fan) but you have a limit of up to 30 drives. but also think i have a server that does everything. (vm, docker, media server, openvpn and many more)
I am only looking for the storage part of it.
@@MyPlayHouse But i must say it's worth checking Unraid. I switched over 3 years now and love everything about it, especially the storage part and Virtual machine capability of Unraid. You can try it out for free for a short time, just to see what it is and does 😉 By the way... keep on the good vids my friend👍👍 big respect for all the things you do and share with us.. Greetings from The Netherlands
@@MyPlayHouse have you tried TrueNAS? You can make 'virtual volumes' over your pools like you had hoped to with OpenMediaVault
I love the play games with the IBM/Lenovo hardware. It is a cazy dream everytime.
I do not think, it is a very good gaming rig :-)
@@MyPlayHouse - Haha, but you are right. What i mean is all the possibilities we have with our IBM/Lenovo hardware. I got 5 M900 ThinkCentre (top quality seen the housing) and boostet them to the max of Hardware. These are really hell machines now. ;-)
I don't know what has happend, but the quality of this video (and by that I mean the content) has gotten way better since last time I visited your channel.
Well I struggle to find new stuff that I think anyone will find interesting,, but Thank You!
My main server uses qumulo with 230 TB of space for animation production. For the second storage I use truenas ZFS 100TB because it can do RAM cache and SSD Cache for save money.
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@10:50 in Linux (and most Unix-like systems) there is the notion of "one tool for one job". The LVM is just that: a manager for logical drives, no more, no less (although in newer versions it can actually also do RAID on its own - the OMV plugin doesnt support this though). But you can stack devices on top of each other. If you want redundancy just use a RAID as the underlying device for the LVM.
E.g. create a RAID device on the physical disks /dev/sda - /dev/sdd. This RAID will show up as a new device called something like /dev/md0. Then create your LVM using this /dev/md0 as the LVM's "physical device". You can even squeeze an encryption layer in between if you like :-) (either on top of the raid - so even the LVM metadata are encrypted - or on top of the logical volume, so only the filesystem inside the volume will be encrypted; you could even run encryption on the physical disks, before they are raid'ed together, but this comes at a major performance loss, as there will be multiple encryptions running in parallel on every access to the raid)
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great, u have it, omv cool, great video, have a good week Morten, me need 3 day's work and have 5 off.......loooooong weekend !!
Thank You,, same here!
Think having screw driver batteries in series give you more volts (volts of bat A + bat B) so should run faster, but having them in parallel give you volts of one battery hence slower speed, but more amps (torque) so should get higher turning force.
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@@MyPlayHouse no problem. NB heard u mention your folding@home so am supporting that as well 🙂 got 6 old computer motherboards running FAH and several BOINC projects plus all the world community grid projects via BOINC
LVM can do RAID by itself, maybe the option is just not in the Web UI. If you log into the command line you can try a command like this:
lvcreate --type raid6 --stripes 6 --size 10T --name "Test-vol2" "Mega-Store"
This will create a new 10 terabyte logical volume named "Test-vol2" across eight physical drives using RAID6 for redundancy. You can change the values in the command and repeat this to create as many virtual drives as you desire. The system will automatically chose appropriate drives from the pool by itself.
Btw: If you're wondering why this command will use 8 drives even though 6 were specified it is because it does not count the parity drives. For more information check out the appropriate man pages.
Yes you have to do a whole lot,, I was hoping for a storage solution that would just handle it all.
174tb would be good for a media server like Plex and as general storage for all the PC's on the network, would also be good for a NVR too. I currently have a 21tb array(12x2tb) pooled using Drivebender.
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Hi there, i would very much like you to test MergerFS/UnionFS and Snapraid together in OpenMediavault. These are plugins for OMV..How does it behave. reading/writing speeds and sync/build speed.
Sorry I did not test that :-/
Try BTRFS. You can mix different hard disk sizes. Raid 5/6 are expermintal. You can expand and shrink.
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Where did you order plastic box?
Got it in the local home improvement center,,here. just happens to fit 24 drives.
@@MyPlayHouse the name for it is .. " home depot "
I would explore TrueNAS. But OMV is a really good solution if you want a fairly entry level turn key situation. I'd probably never fill more than 20TB of that because I don't do anything that would require me to have very large file sizes or that many individual files.
Me entertaining thousands of people,, can't very well fill it up with pirate bay stuff.. :-/
Based on what you described I don't think unraid is what you are looking for either. Unraid builds a giant pool and you can use mixed drives but your largest drives have to always be your 1 or 2 redundancy drives. Unraid does this by not striping the data across the array and instead writing to one disk at a time. You can control where stuff writes and how much storage it is allowed but all the "Redundancy" is handled underneath that. Plus as other's have mentioned even with the pro license you are limited to 30 drives total. What you are talking about is something that I believe LVMs in linux could handle, but I have no experience with that personally so I might be wrong.
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The black cases look much better. It must be great to be able to use all these drives without a ton of issues.
I am not complaining,, those 600G and 1T are just weird.
I have almost about double this in storage space for home use. Can't tell what I'm using it for publicly, but look me up on FB.
Well I can´t very well fill my storage up with douth full stuff,, with this many people looking :-)
I use true nas only down side is you need 1gb of ram per TB. I would use it for the videos I make. Can easily fill up a 2TB HD after a weekend of filming.
This is just recommended you can do with less ram .
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Can ceph be used in this case?
well ceph is far too complicated, and it is distributed architecture, so you need min. 3 nodes for OSDs, flash for DB, ideally monitor nodes seperately, then need a load balance and a seperated public and cluster networks, and this is just the beginning..... :) and all in command line..... there is a solution from croit.io which is simple and gui based....
Ceph is basically the only real competitor that Windows Storage Pools have that does the same thing... And then some really as Ceph also does other stuff. There's a lot of limitations to Ceph though like no free windows clients and such though. And it's pretty complex to set up. With the trouble Morten had just to get GPU passthrough to work in Proxmox... I'm not entirely sure he has the technical skills to fully working Ceph cluster. No complaint really, but linux software config just doesn't seem like his forte.
@@cagataykilic7978 gui installers are not cheap at least for a computer science student 😅. Actually I am planning a ceph deployment for openstack . So I am bit curious about it. And learning a lot of new things in this process.
Ceph is more a replacement for Nutanix or vSAN.
How rude :-)
i probably would go insane with that much storage space tbh as i wouldnt know what to do with that much available space
I really also do not have, anything that takes up that much spaces :-/
How do you handle your off site backup with that much data?
I do not backup this much,, think I have 15TB backup.
What was your final os. Did you try Proxmox basically you can run anything?
It's a long story,, and I had all sorts of issues,, right now I am back on hardware raid.
@@MyPlayHouse Proxmox is enterprise ready and I thought i would be great idea for such a large pool of drives and having nodes makes downtime zero to none. OMV is not enterprise ready and Freenas is in transition so Debian and Ubuntu is left. For large storage I always look what 45drives are developing. Good luck!
Have you considered ZFS (so TrueNAS ) but using the copies attribute for redundancy which is set per dataset ? It's definitely not as good as a proper RAIDZ. copies is exposed by the GUI now
Yes have looked at it.
Ok, now you need to paint your racks to finish the look. Great video!
Yarh,, Pink,, will look awesome :-)
You can create logical volumes on mdadm software raid. Synology does this.
I kind of wants a system that handles this for me.. :-)
@@MyPlayHouse OMV does this. Start with raid, set your disk arrays, then set your LVM logical volumes on them as you wish.
Try to copy large files to check the working of all disks
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use it as a backup backup server i.e all your backups from all the servers etc also get backed up there as a backup backup i.e you know if your lookimg for a file and not sure what server its on at least you could use it from there as a short term use and replace the master copy etc.
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You don't need the metal bracket in the HP trays, I think it's just there for stability, but not 100% sure.
I run around 14 older HP servers and most of them don't use any metal trays.The gen8 and later even removed that
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What trays did you use? I have netapp shelf that id like to do the same too
These are trays from IBM XIV.. they are in my shop.
I have two raid 6 arrays , one with 12 2 tb disks the other with 8 2tb disks . im using them for plex and security ip cams recording
There is a limit to how much Plex can use,, but I guess you could fill up 34TB..
@@MyPlayHouse right now i use only 14tb for plex , about 2 tb for my personal photos and a litle bit for music. On my last configuracion i try storage spaces on windows 10 bit i have problems with it .My files was available only for read .Тhen I switched to hardware raid ;)
I have 224TB raw in 16 bays in my
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I’d use it for Plex.. already hovering around 60TB here and can always use more !
how many albums is 60TB!?!?!
@@michaelbliss3337 thousands ;)
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@@MyPlayHouse always watch your videos ! I’ve got the same addiction (see my channel) :)
I would use it for backing up my bluray and dvd collection. It is so convenient to just start a media center like kodi, and simply select a movie or TV-show from the folders without searching for the correct disk. :D Also recording gameplay footage as well as 4K videos from cameras can take up a lot of space. I'm at about 100 TB (sadly just JBOD)on my main Server at home right now, next thing for me is to build a backup server with an RAIDZ(or Z2) or also wit Windows Storage spaces. Btw. Synologys Hybrid RAID is also more or less like Windows Storage Spaces. It also can take HDDs of different capacities and use them all in one storage pool. There is also a way to run Synologys DSM on normal PC hardware. It is called XPEnology. But I'm not sure if it supports external storage boxes.
Yes he has some (cough) history with XPenology
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if you mount the filesystem in open media vault I was able to use a drive with data on it. unraid sounds like what you want. omv is just an opensource none bsd nas/vm/docker system based on the bones of good old Debian.
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Build a citrix environment and you can fill those drives
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What will I do with that amount storage (at home)?
First, I'll use it as "an intermediate stop" in the way of organizing the data on all my external drives and remote ftp/nas/cloudish servers. After that I'll try different things and will try to either blow my electricity bill or blow some of the drives. :D
Maybe I'll run a zip bomb, just to see how long it will take to fill all that space. :D :D :D
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174TB for?
I also do not know,, for fun..
@@MyPlayHouse But just for fun it must be costy to buy so much drives :o
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Just a thought... Perhaps install the ZFS plugin, and downgrade the OS to the Proxmox Kernel will allow you the control you desire...
Btrfs is also an option on linux
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Hi, I watch your videos all the time and really enjoy them. Can I ask what you need all the storage for !! ? its not an idiot question I'm just curios Thanks take care
I do videos about Server and Storage,, I do not really need this much storages for myself...
Hi Morten, I use allot of Storage for my Videos, that I make. I bought a 4k camera a while back. Now, I'm using even more. I'm about to fill up my 8TB & 5TB Backup Drives. So, that's what I would use allot for Disk Space for. I'm running Fedora 32 Linux on my HP DL380 G7 Server, now. Soon, I will be upgrading to Fedora 33. There is a System Admin App called Cockpit. Which allows you to manage Storage, RAID, LVM, Volume Groups and iSCSI Targets on a Fedora Linux System. It's very easy to use and you can use any type of drive, you wish. Right now, I'm using 6 HP SAS Drives for the OS and the 8TB USB SATA Drive for Backup Storage. I haven't actually used Cockpit, to set this up. I didn't need it, when installing the OS. I used the Installer. But, when I get 2 more 8 TB USB SATA Drives. I plan on "Shucking the Drives" and using them in the other 2 HD Slots on the G7 for Backup. I watch most all of your videos. But, I'm especially interested in Big Storage, right now. I'm wondering if I could save some money, if I buy a used Storage System. Say an HP, that come's with some Drives. But, then there's the Electricity Costs and Noise, to consider. You can, among other things. Install and Manage Virtual Machines with Cockpit. Here's are a couple of Screen Shots ( photos.app.goo.gl/9wvNPETEJLag5FdY7 ). Which is Probably how I will setup my Web Server. Right now, it's running on an old Dell 6000 Laptop. I did a few videos on Cockpit, in Fedora 28 and 29. This one, gives a pretty good overview on Cockpit ( ua-cam.com/video/aombwIoxVs8/v-deo.html ). But, the Virtual Machine Management was not implemented back then... Don
I am on 1050 videos++ and they with all the footages only take up 13TB-ish.
@@MyPlayHouse Ya, I have 1000+ on my channel too. And allot more, that I haven't uploaded or don't plan to. Many of my videos are Live Streams (now at 1440P). Which I also make a 4k backup video, in case my stream fails. So, its really adding up, fast... Don
Hello, congratulations on the video, do you recommend any sites to buy HDD in bulk? I'm from Brazil and I'm setting up my server little by little, currently with 4TB, but I want to increase it to 20TB, unfortunately prices on Aliexpress are expensive and here in my country too, thank you in advance
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I am working with www.bargainhardware.co.uk/delivery-and-packaging
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And you get 5% off with my promocode "myplayhouse"
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I'm here for my music fix
Very hard to hear in this video,, noisy..
Nice 2 see it up and running without disk or hba issues👍
Lookin' forward to see the different OS tests.
Those IBM trays indeed look better, what's the part number?
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@@MyPlayHouse Never mind the part number...found it in your store.
I would choose truenas and make 3 vdevs of 8 3tb drives. Man that would be fast as hell
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Nice video. Sometimes I go a little crazy like you do in some of your videos :-D
The open media vault plugin for LVM seems to not support logical volumes as raid. LVM itself is able to handle that.
lvcreate --type raid6 -i 3 -L 1G -n my_lv my_vg
creates a logical volume with 3 data stripes + 2 parity information of the size of 1GB.
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hard drive mining might be profitable and would make a good video
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Portainer container in all 174 tb
I do not know what that is. or why it would need that much spaces.
So jealous. The server I bought on ebay died a few days after I got it up and running. My huge NAS dreams are over. :(
I am sorry to hear that :-(
@@MyPlayHouse Thanks. Such is life with used equipment!
There is hardware raid, and windows storage. There is freenas or true Nas as it's now called.
There is ispconf, which is like a VM host for web connected clients.
Webmin also offers this.
FileZilla, If that's still a thing.
There is xpenology.
Take a look through the forge at the projects., There is next cloud, my cloud .
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I have 75TB in my plex lib and its growing like 15GB per day at least a bit more once I rip my BD collection to just add batches to it, so I can just fill it after a month or 3
You must have quite a collection.
Oh how tedious, having so many drives! 😏
After the first 5,, the fun is over :-/
As. Quick note, the IBM trays do look better. 😁
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“Wow that’s a lot of porn storage” If that’s what your storing of course!😉🤔
I have more than what I show in this video..
Why not just run TrueNAS? Also at this point, I would think that unless the person is a content creator it would be pretty hard to fill 147TB NAS these days. Even if they were shooting a lot of 4k home video. These days I try to keep my home server idling at or below 30 watts and keeping the peak power consumption under 250 watts.
I teach video productions at a school and we only have 30TB of total drive space among all of the drives we use in our NAS and backup NAS. We also have 10TB of cloud storage but we don't store uncompressed footage for very long as that is kinda pointless these days. Even with a fairly high bitrate for H.264 or H.265 between 70 and 150 Megabits/second that is only about 31.5 to 67.5 GigaBytes/hour of footage before we edit and compress it down to something that UA-cam will be happy with which is usually around 17-24Mbit/s for 1080p/30, 30-35Mbit/s for 1080p/60, 35-45 for 4K/30p and 55-70 for 4K/60p. I would think that for most quality content creation on UA-cam with only 1-4 people working on content, people can get by with 2-8TB of SSD Storage and maybe 10-40TB of Bulk storage for the majority of channels.
I am on 1055 videos,, and with all the footages I am only at 13TB-ish
music, movie and TV files.
that is a lot :-)
I would definitely say go with andrade I moved away from Windows because of all the issues that I was having with Drive being seen or just failing for no apparent reason so what I would recommend is to go with unraid and I understand that it is paid but it's worth paying for because of all the features you get and that supports the development of the actual software and it's rather nice it pulls the drives in a pool but it uses them individually so if one of the driver dies you only lose the data on that drive you won't leave the data across all the drives so it's not quite raid but it's, a pool that will allow you to have multiple drive connected and have Drive fail or not and also you do get one redundant parody Drive just in case any of your drive die there will be a backup of the data now I shouldn't got a backup it's more just a safe place to store redundant data so that you can then restore it later
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unRaid -> can power down drives when setup - they all works as individual drives speeds - parity 2x highest size drives, everything else same or lower size - docker with pass through - volumes across all drives - adding to array is easy with the correct app - make sure you have at least 1x SSD/M.2(in adapter or on board) - sees every device I have put into it.
Down side of unRaid removing drives (from the array) you got to power down the array - only 2x parity drives - one off payment - the licence key registers to the USB (only that one) - selecting the correct apps for your own use case.
Space invader one is doing a series on the new 6.9.x
Any issues give me a shout
I seem to remember someone posting a rant about why Unraid was trash
@@PenguinCinema Thats why I stated "use case"
If you want to keep all the drives spinning (for access speed) and then TCO will continue to cost in electric,
But if the drives only need to spin up when needed (when accessed) like student access or plex server or VM use then unRaid is the way forward. And not limited by hardware choices then unRaid again.
Freenas needs a boot HDD due to amount of writes needed and kills off SSD faster like proxmox.
unRaid needs a 4Gb flash drive then runs in RAM.
@@SimonLally1975 I mean my drives don't spin 24/7, and what's this about individual drive speeds? With Unraid aren't you stuck with the slowest disk speed among all your disks? What do you do when one fails? How does it handle different size disks when you have parity calculations?
@@PenguinCinema OK easy explanation is:-
Max 2x parity disks (2 can fail and still data is safe).
Parity disk(s) must be the largest or the same as your largest data drive.
The access is as fast as that particular drive speed (SSD will not go down to HDD speed).
unRaid in disks menu (not by default) use a spin-down feature (use 98w instead of running all the disks 24/7 268w) depending on hardware. (dual xeon, Nvidia GPU and dual 10Gb fibre card)
Any size drive can be used as long as the parity disk(s) are larger and you get the full amount of that data drive (parity drives sizes are lost)
e.g. 4x 10TB (2x parity only 20TB data)
e.g. 10x 10TB (2x parity only 80TB data)
e.g. 30x 10TB (2x parity only 280TB data)
different HDD file types out the box:-
xfs
btrfs
reisferfs
and all the above types with encryption
No allocation of RAM for the file system (zfs)
3GB RAM for the OS and the rest is cached when needed (64GB total in my case)
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Dragons. I'd use it for dragons.
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Amazing video Morten can I have your discord server link ….. I would be really glad about it
Discord is one of the things I offer on patreon.
unraid is always a good choice!!
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Chia plots farming!
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to store all my DVD and music pictures viideos
That might be like 20TB,, a lot of free spaces.. :-)
I dont think the idea is good. I mean, I have a lot of drives, lot of different datasets and more than a lot of different shares. Creating a pool, and within the pool creating a virtual disk and let everything managed by the os itself is the perfect way to overcomplicate things. I always recommend TrueNas Core as I use it as my main nas/san host. Use zfs, I dont need thst much memory, so the 1gb/tb rule isn't needed if you dont do Deduplication. So with only 8gb of ram you can have as much storage as you want as long as you don't need dedup. And yeah, TrueNas and OpenMediaVault dont allow mixing drive sizes, but as I see, you have enough drives with the same capacity so in your case it shouldn't be a big of a deal. You mentioned Unraid, and you have to have license to use all of your drives and yeah, it's a paid service. So I would like to recommend TrueNas Cire instead of any other crappy thing
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na unraid has limits... The Pro licence has a limit of 30 for ‘array’ devices but no limit on ‘attached’ devices. but Unraid is very nice
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freenas might be good
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Linux iso's. Lots an slots of Linux iso's.
And just what should I use a lot of ISO´s for Linux for,, I could see how I could maybe need 10,, but that is about it.
nice
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Good morning... try petaSAN. have a nice time
Humm we will see if we get there.
FreeNAS
That is one of the options..
✨super .
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Interesting
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@@MyPlayHouse i love your channel
Storing 1080p REMUX movie files. LOL
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Unraid
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Use it as a Plex server ;-)
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With a 174TiB drive, you might be enabled to keep Donald Trump's sins and lies doccumented. ^^)
With a bit of deduplication, I think that will fit, :-)
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