Triumph Thunderbird / TT Legend, Spoke Wheels, Tubeless Conversion !
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- Опубліковано 23 лис 2020
- Easy Conversion, Converting Regular Spoked Rims to run Tubeless.!
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Fascinating = I just spent 10mins watching a wheel go round and round 😀 Seriously....... good job 👍
You make one of the best “how to do“ on the net! Great job!
Thank you, im glad it helped.
Just saw your procedure for first time. Earlier today I did almost the identical procedure with 5200 fast setting. I did not use the painter tape, instead I ran it up the sides. The 5200 sets up quick. I've used 5200 a lot working around boats so I went with what I knew. I used one tube. 10 ozs. That black adhesive you used finished up beautifully. A really professional looking job!
Nice clean application. How do you ever adjust a spoke with the base sealed to the rim?
You don't, basically. This should probably be changed every 4-5years anyway, which i when i usually need to tighten any spokes on a good wheel.
@@datadavis every time a bike with spokes comes in for a service there are always several spokes that need adjusting
@@EvolutionMotorworks ok boss
You just grind down to that spoke and adjust it, then reseal over it.
You're video on swapping out the T120 shocks gave me the confidence to do that job, I reckon this video has given me the confidence to do this one.
Thank you for your kind feedback, have fun with your project.!
Thanks for the video. You last video reminded me to clean and regrease the lever hinge pins on my bikes.
The reason I started watching the channel was to learn new things and now I’ve learned you can seal spoked wheels n go tubeless! I had no idea. Wheels look great. Stay safe guys
Thanks Alan, you're learning along with me then, i never did this before either, and we'll see in 48 hours if it's worked.!
You never cease to amaze, entertain and educate! I learned something new tonight, thank you!! 👍
Most welcome Harold, in that case, we're learning together, as this was a new adventure for us, and from all those who've done this before with great success, I've every confidence it will be a great move forward.
Beautiful job, well done!
good job. your enthusiasm is inspiring
This channel has come on leaps and bounds since I started watching. Keep the great work going Del.
Brilliant work. A treat to watch!
Quite satisfieing to watch , very neat job . Great video
Thanks for the video Del. I am doing mine today!
Have fun, and good luck with it.
Fantastic video great job stay safe looking forward to next one 🇬🇧👍🏻
So glad you made this video! Greatly appreciate you!
Love the fact your very precise and have to make sure it’s a 100% best way to go about it. Also as we all know preparation is key
Wise words well said my friend, preparation is everything!
Looking forward to seeing these wheels all suited and BOOTED on the bike, they are going to look amazing, great Job Del, another top video on the Triumph 👍🏍.
Thanks Graham, really appreciate your kind words.
I like the idea as long as it works, I would say the application you did looks the goods.
Always learning something new off u del 👍
Outstanding sir. Well done.
Rims look excellent mate and a great job with the tubeless conversion. Penny and you have a good and safe week. Cheers
Thank you mate, you too... glad you enjoyed the video, keep safe there and take care of yourself and your family, D&Px
Looks like very tedious work plus extreme patience needed, good job, looking forward to seeing you do the rear, (oooer missus), 👍👍👍👍
Great to have a proper beef jig for truing and balancing .. given the amount of wheel and tyre jobs you get involved in..i see a semi pro tyre machine in the future .. like everything time and funds will prevail one day . As with the lathe and blast cabinet all good things come to those who wait .
Bravo Del, one little victory !
Peas and loaf 👍🏻☮❤
Exactly that Brother, been doing this for ten years on the tube now, and always folded the money back into the garage and equipment, so eventually, the tools and machines build up and life gets a bit easier..
You've been cracking on this past month mate 😮. I've finally caught up (the joys of having a new job with brutal hours 🙄) The wheels look fantastic and I can't wait to see them on the bike! 👌
Welcome back buddy, congratulations on the new job, hope it's going well, and thanks for your kind support. !
Just been put onto your channel by the motorcycle recovery van that just brought me home (puncture obviously!). That's a great job!
Awesome! Thank you!
Great job as always !!!! i love this channel, after a long day of work , nothing beats a new video from delboy's garage , so relaxing and every time i learn something new !!!!! thank you !!!
Thanks for your kind words buddy, we're glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for the feedback, it motivates us to keep going!
Absolutely thorough job.
Can't wait to see those fitted!
Del it was like watching the potters wheel interlude, very relaxing . Nice wheels.
I went into a trance watching that.. Great video..thanks
Glad you enjoyed it buddy.
Really excellent,for once again,i try it on my BMW funduro!
Hey bud wheels look amazing 👏
I've often wondered if a spoked wheel could be made tubeless. Now I know. Excellent video Del and Penny - fingers crossed for the pressure test!
Sure thing John, it's common practice in some quarters, and eliminates the utter grief of a puncture with a tube.! It'll seal mate, you'll see.. have a great week and take care.. D&Px
Wish i had done this to my CRF450 supermoto. I have experienced first hand a puncture in the rear tyre on my way home from work...nightmare. The CRF got sold this summer and am now happily saddled with my Blade. Fantastic videos as always, great job. 👍👊😊
Sure thing buddy, been there far too many times myself!... I'm not doing punctures in tubes again...
Now we all know how to make wire wheels tubeless cheers Del 👍
I was looking to try this on a project of my own recently, I will be waiting to see how this turns out Del. Best of luck buddy SR
Most impressed that you managed to do all that without sticking your tongue out. I was sitting here doing it for you!
😁
Haha me too I'm terrible for it.
There something calming about your channel i love to watch your video's. And i am learning from it to. Waiting for the next one.
A job he's done a thousand times: Chatty Cathy... First time and nervous: silent as a monk. Looks great Del. Nice one mate
This makes me want to decorate a cake (can't think why 🤔)
Joking apart a great video & a great idea & reason for doing it also Del.
I hope the younger generation of biker/riders realise how lucky they are when all they need to do is pick up thier phone & have all this knowledge available to them.
Too right my friend, never heard it better said... when I was a lad, you had your mate's opinion in the pub, a few sage journalists, like Jim Fog and Mr Bridges in BSH, or the local bike shop who were usually a lot more willing to help than theses days with advice and guidance, than the modern day dealerships are... the internet is truly a wonderful thing and it's an honour to contribute to it!
Really interesting never thought of that
Been waiting all day for this nice one del
Can't beat a good bit of Tuesday teatime schmoo spreading.
That looked very therapeutic
Looks good 👍 appreciate the videos, especially during all the nonsense going on. Be well ☺️
Thanks Ollie, glad you appreciate it mate! 👍
Well...did it work? Did the tire seal first time through? How long has it lasted (mileage wise)?
Wow they look awesome
What an excellent idea. I have seen one way of sealing the rim by using a small tube that goes over the spokes but you need to fit an additional valve hole. I might well try your method. Cheers Del. Regards to you both.
Hi Richard, I think there are a few methods to seal spokes, and yes independent seals is one of them I believe, also tapes and other kits available, but this just seemed the most common sense and cost effective way to do it! Have a good week my friend, keep safe.
a great vid del well explained as always would love to do this my last two bikes have spokes vl800 and heritage got a puncture in city centre last year on suzuki nightmare life saved by biker in van with compressor in back and bottle of puncture sealant 3 mile from many stops to pump up made it god i love bikers
ha ha, been there buddy, pumped in a can of sealant, pumped the tyre up and it all squirted out the spoke holes.. had to stop ten times on the way home after buying a foot pump from the petrol station.. Never again mate, this is how we roll from now on, just carry a plug kit, and a puncture is a 15 minute inconvenience..!
Nice work Dell, the rims have come up corka.
very cool. i wondered how that was done and now i know. cool.
About to redo a wheel that I had previously used Gorilla Waterproof & Seal tape, which melted. I just knew coming across your version that it would come out looking immaculate per your usual careful attention to doing it right. Looks good!
Good vid looks like a pro
Well Del never seen that before nice one ☝️
Those wheels look great, didn’t know spoke wheels could be converted to tubeless. Nice one .....kind regards.
Finally someone made a video about this and actually succeed. Does it handle the pressure? How is is it doing so far?
Behaves like a normal tubeless tyre, no problems mate !
Nice video fade in the beginning...
FYI I have used Stan's kit for mtn bikes ... Good luck
Looks amazing brother 👍✌️
Thanks Ron, hope you're keeping safe and well there! 👍
Just wondering what happens in the future if you need to tighten a loose spoke..
adjustments are made on the hub side of the rim; the inside.
@@richardplantagenet8090 It's not as easy as you think.
The nipples still turn to either loosen OR tighten the spokes. So, the seal WILL break.
@@richardplantagenet8090 no they're not. The nipple is attached to the rim
Great job. Two Questions. 1\ How much of sealer did you use? 2\ And how hard would it be to replace a spoke now? Could you do a test on an old spoked wheel, seal it, then replace one or two spokes then try to reseal just that area to see how well it reseals. I have a R/E Himalayan that has spoked wheels, with both inner tubes and tubeless tires
Hi Del , great video thanks for sharing just done my Interceptor 650 using your process and seems to have worked a treat , my question is has it lasted as long as you had the bike ? thanks again Dale
Thanks for the video. I will give this a try myself. How much sealant have you used for both front and back tire?
About a tube and a half was plenty!
Interesting as I have just bought a pristine secondhand SCR950 in northern Thailand, and I ain't running round for long on tubes.
Very nice!
Serviço espetacular brother
as always hats off to you. Now think out the balance.
Another excellent video!! 👍 Just curious but what made you choose Upol Tiger Seal over the more commonly used Marine grade silicon? Also did you consider any of the Spoke Wheel Sealing Kits such as the Outex Tubeless Conversion Kit? Thanks
I definitely want to do this with my laced wheels
Therapeutic to watch the application. Very well done, too.
Thank you very much Nick, good to hear from you, !
Good job as always! But if you do it again, I think use of *3M 4411N Extreme Sealing Tape* instead of sealant over the full width
would have made uniformity of thickness and the straight edges easier to accomplish. The Janpanese Outex Kit also includes
small plastic (polyurethane?) discs to cover the spoke ends so that they can be turned without breaking the sealant.
I would be Leary of using Tape? Del's way I believe would be more prudent.
@@OlderShadowRider - I haven't seen any comparisons of the two methods (understandably), but there are many videos on UA-cam of people using the 3M tape with none reporting problems, some of the applications by professionals who claim to have done many such sealing projects. The bigger problem, I think, would be accommodation of rotation of the spoke ends without breaking a seal.
there ya go another job people can have a go at you know thats the beautie of this channel you learn something everytime well played big man atb stay safe m8 iain
highly doubt i'll run spoked wheels, nice vid Del
The point of running spoked wheels is lost on me. Unless purely for looks. I thought we moved away from composite wheels for a reason(s)???
@@stevenferraro3957 each to his own my guess, i'm pretty sure spokes is more for off road than on road. makes repairs easier than damaging an alloy wheel.
Looks awesome sir ! Nice even application and the wheels look beautiful. Between this build and the wasteland busa...really showing your range of vision. See ya on the next one !
Thank you Sir, that's very kind, glad you're enjoying it!
Very well done! So calming and relaxing, was watching in bed and almost fell asleep! Good job!
What about spoke tightening when time comes?
Thanks for watching! And for what it's worth, I've never had to tighten a spoke in my whole life, once they're trued and tensioned, they stay put, specially with this over them.
Great idea❤️
Del another great job and awesome video. Thanks for sharing it.
Thank you buddy, good to hear from you.
Looking good del
Nice job! Any drying time between 'coats'? Or was it kind of drying as you went?
No mate, did the whole job in one, 3mm layer, spread evenly all round, and 48 hours to 'moisture cure" !
Interesting. If you need to true the wheel at a later date, or tighten a loose spoke, will that be a problem?
Don't know Glynn, never had to do it yet, i guess ill find out should i ever need to.!
Hi, what inlet valve use to complete the upgrade? Is done to bonneville T100? Thanks
Icing on the cake, or rims😂
Fantastic and ultra neat work as you always do. Loved it.
Just out of curiosity how many tubes of the adhesive did it take to do each 17 inch rim? Thanks
Hi mate, I used 1.1/4 tubes to do both wheels... it does go quite a long way!
@@Moonfleet41 that's pretty cool. Thank you so much for the info and more importantly the videos as tutorials and confidence builders. Much appreciated mate.
Looking good del (NL)
Dobry pomysł, ciekawe czy będzie trzymać ciśnienie
48 hours and i can find out..!
Hi could you tell me who you used to build your wheels as you have inspired me to restore my sport. Great videos
Wow, Del, that’s a pretty cool trick! I never would have thought that possible, but you certainly took Herculean, painstaking effort to get it done right. I’ll be very interested in the balancing step and whether it materially affects the road feel. In the future if you want to replace or tighten a spoke, how does one do that? Thx, Del- best to you and Penny! 🏍👍🏍
Hi Gary, really happy with the outcome, and in 48hrs you'll see just how well they seal! In all the years of riding, I've never had to tighten a spoke even once, and even if I did, then I can go ahead and do that, as the shoulders are in the outside of the spokes and after that, should it leak, I'll just re-seal it... have a great Thanksgiving this week both, sending you our best wishes, keep safe and keep well there, D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 ok pretty neat set up then, Del. Thx for the wishes! Stay safe and well there. 😎
Ooft, nice one Del.
They're Bobby Dazzlers. As long as they are cured right through before airing up or the air will seek out an exit. I'll wager that Penny will want her Triumph tubes gone when tyre time comes and I have to admit, I have a stainless spoke and tubeless wide rim fetish.
I share your fetish brother, can't beat that SuperMoto stylee! They're gonna get 48hrs and that's plenty of time in a warm, humid climate... thanks for the inspiration Hughie, I probably wouldn't have gone this way without your nudge!
How long does that silicone remain workable, do you have to let it cure between applications?
It's temperature dependent, in 15c it was well over two hours and it was still very soft and sticky, but in 24c it was curing a lot faster, became stiffer and less pliable within half hour, all to come on the next couple of videos, and i did it all on one go, spotted the holes in, tabbed that in deep and flattened it out, then layered it up in three passes,. came out well as you can see.
Did the reduction in rotating mass make the steering any easier or quicker?
Well done sir. I have considered doing this on my Shadow vt750 for some time, but was Leary. After watching your video, I might give it a go? My rims are presently getting powder coated as we speak, so will look more closely into it. Thanks again.
Up until now, I had always seen it being done with tape. It's nice to what the proper way actually is, thanks Del!
Awesome job Del. I have one question. Does this interfere with tuning the spokes later on down the road. On my spoke rims from H-D on my Heritage they used a rubber piece to seal the spoke holes. One them got messed up from changing a tire and it got replaced.
Hey buddy, good to hear from you, hope life is good over there.. With your Spoke, if you even need to attend to one, (not that i ever have myself) then this is rubber sealant 1/8" thick, just grind out the spot over the spoke head with a wire wheel, then spot the hole back in afterwards with a dab of fresh sealant..Job done. This stuff sticks to absolutely everything, even under water, and the best thing it sticks to is itself... so it'll be easier and cheaper than rubber seals any day.!
That's all very nice, but if you have to adjust the spokes, don't you get into trouble?
Yes.
Del always pushing to try something new go for it
Too right mate, best way to learn aye.
I can see the tyre sticking to this mess and never coming off, especially at the roadside with hand tools.
Not at all mate, it dries like a hard rubber, tyre changing it fine.. and making them tubeless means you don't need to remove tyres ""at the roadside with hand tools"" ! you just fit a quick external temporary plug and ride home or to a tyre shop !
Nice job Del
Just wandering though,
How do you go about truing the spokes if you need to with the sealant on.
Thanks Nick
They're already trued and tensioned mate, ready to go, that's why i went to a respected professional wheel builder. ! just fit and enjoy!
Great vid. as ever Del. QQ...will adjusting or tightening the spokes in the future risk breaking the seal? Or are there so many layers that this risk is minimal?
It's just a 3mm layer of adhesive sealant, absolutely nothing to just grind a little away for access to a spoke (should you ever need to, which I never have), and then re-seal it afterwards, just takes a few moments and if spoke nuts ever do move, this is gonna go a long way to stop this happening, so as the wheels are trued and tensioned, they should stay that way.
That’s something to see! Never thought we can go tubeless! I was just thinking how nervous I’d be before you admitted it. Questioning myself will it hold air?? My experience have to make sure those beads seal good!! Lol ... that’s yet to see you challenge that!!!
Next Video..!
@@Moonfleet41 ... looking forward to it... !!! .. LOL
How is it holding up?