Drag Race: VW Golf GTI TCR vs Hyundai i30 N
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- In this episode of our hot-hatch drag race shootout, Volkswagen's Golf TCR is pitted against the Hyundai i30 N. Can the TCR claim its first win after losing to the Honda Civic Type R? Let's find out!
In our first episode of this hot-hatch showdown, Volkswagen's 213 kW/380 Nm Golf GTI TCR lost to the potent 228 kW / 400 Nm Honda Civic Type R with excessive wheel-spin evident off the line.
Now, the Golf GTI TCR will look to claim its first win as it goes up against Hyundai's i30 N. The Korean hot-hatch is not as powerful as the Golf GTI TCR and comes to the start line with 202 kW and 353 Nm and equipped with a 6-speed manual transmission while the TCR makes use of a snappy 6-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission.
Enjoy the race!
0:00 Intro
0:49 Volkswagen Golf GTI TCR Engine specs
0:57 Hyundai i30N Engine specs & description
1:04 Reveal Weight comparison
1:53 Drag Race
2:35 TCR launch overview
3:04 Outro
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Loving these videos.
A blessing to thee all round! The purpose of a racing to us isto find out if a car is faster than another car suchwise asin if I race my car against another car then we will find a winner so this race was a good indicator of a faster car.
I suggest in these cases you must have a quarter mile timer inside the car so at the end you can compare
Go and search on you tube gti tcr acceleration and watch how good is the launch control when the driver know what he is doing...
Have you launched a GTI DSG? It's quite a bit more difficult to judge the delay when you're at the lights than comparing it to a video
@@derickturner2655 I launched a gti performance .. for my experience all the gti models from the 7.5 generation and beyond are pretty easy to launch
Derick Turner ive had a mk7 gti, and now mk7 gli and its so damn easy to launch
@@amitprulovify I'm referring to the delay between you letting go of the brake and the car starting to move. Dropping the clutch in a manual is much faster.
@@derickturner2655 Haven't driven a Golf, but I have experience launching a Toyota Tazz at traffic lights. Does that count?
Don't you guys do some practice launches to learn how to get a good start before doing a race🙆♀️
Manual vs DCT is a big difference.
Yeah, I never get why people drag race DCT vs Manuals in the first place. It will never be fair race.
DSG?
@@shanesommerville7717 that's the badger :D
Yeah, you can quicker start with manual if you know how to. However big difference is also between VAG EA888 Gen3 IHI IS38 turbo dual injected engine and Hyndai Theta II engine.
@@shanesommerville7717 DSG in german DCT in english
The TCR would have been a great drag weapon if that launch control was on point. It’s just a pity.
Is not the launch control! It’s the driver!!!
Why not just buy the R?
That I30N looks lovely
they both look fantastic tbf
Having owned the 7.5 Gti performance edition, I knew the TCR was going to win because even with that one, the i30N would be given a serious run for its money. But the launch on it is awful, my goodness.
Awe what a lekker race bro... From Durban ..
Post notification gang💪
Ciro, i love your wry sense of humour
Why the re upload upload?
Why not compare the Golf TCR against the new i30N Performance DCT. Both DCT and comparable in HP/Nm/Price.
I think you should have done more than one run and maybe swapped drivers and then the TCR would have shown it’s full advantage .
When can we expect the video for the new face-lift Toyota Hilux
When can we see new Focus ST n this channel. I hates the 13-18 ST but damn the 2020 was a HuGE surprise. It was superb.. has lot of space, good quality inside.. ride was better and handling too felt better and the engine felt like a torque monster between 2000-4500 rpm. I felt it almost as fast as a TCR n straight line too
Was i30n performance version?
This guy in the TCR launches way to late in these videos
Same thing always yet he launches car frequently..
DSG on Mk7 has some stupid delay with LC. I have tried without LC in S mode, and it was made better results. It can be fixed with software update. :) Also with remap it can easily get 380HP, and Golf TCR with that R engine is really stupid fast.
i have a tcr its very lazy off the line to compare it with my previous Golf R . they need a remap.
Awesome reviews and drag races as always...
Quick one, could u add recommended dealerships to the platform, maybe guys that can handle logistics for export purposes.. just thinking it would be nice to expand the market beyond borders...
Greetings from Uganda...
Price counts or not
I think what would be cool is every now and again to get a viewers car and have them to the drag race with whatever car your comparing .
Can't wait for the dct I30 N, obviously that will make a difference
Still no chance against a gti tcr
Amit Prulov we can wait and see 😉
Just remember, Hyundai employed a couple of members that were involved with BMW motorsports development
Anthony Serfontein yes but they all build in Korea
Yep
Should have put the Hyundai in "N" mode and switched the traction controll and stability control of. Should also have adjusted the Hyundai's "launch control" (that is done by using the Cruise Control buttons).
We need a re-match with the new I30N auto(DCT) please
Good One make some more Drag Race videos
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race begins at 1:50
Wow, they dont listen to their audience. Having driven many vag cars, to counter the delay which WE ALL see in every drage race episode (rather annoying) can be compensated for by lifting off the brake a bit sooner. Reaction time! Nothing against you Ciro, best SA car reviewer but this drag racing series needs to be sorted out guys.
In true competitive motorsport racing, the lights timing to green is randomised so that the drivers cant anticipate the lights, because anticipating the lights is considered cheating.
So when the timing is randomised, you cant just start your launch early since you will get a jumpstart and a penalty.
Ciro is driving it correctly, the problem is a design flaw in the VW launch control.
Atleast someone said it
@@nboy7 a great reply....shows you how crap launch control is on TCS
@@nboy7 Don't know why this is so hard for some people to understand. Also some illegal drag races do not have start lights.
@@vukosipercy5271 you will come back.....
I saw other UA-cam Channels while reviewing Golf GTI and they said the GTI has a good launch and can go earlier than its opponent
The I30N dct is coming out.
Would like a rematch of the civic and the golf this time get a another person to drive it or they must swap cars
Why? The launch control is obviously delayed. Leaving the brake early to counter VWs delay would be cheating.
I agree, that Civic launch wasn't great, we deserve to see a rematch.
@@aslam7952 Why would it be cheating. The rules to a drag race is the wheels must not move before the countdown is completed. Only then are u disqualified.
If you got the launch perfect,the TCR would have gapped that Hyundai
Golf gti tcr: £38,170
I30n performance: £29,810.
A weak performance considering the price difference. Note also the i30n smokes the golf gti which sets you back £33,510. You literally have to burn over 8k to have a golf that's faster than the i30n and even then the launch control looks to be engineered by a child.
James Barnes you have no idea what youre talking about - the LC is perfect on MQB but the driver in this race obviously didnt know what he was doing - go look up VW MK7 vehicles and see how good the launch control is... never go based on one video or one source of information my friend that is why the internet exists.
@@jamesbarnes8338 gti>i30 N think 9f practicality too like bootspace and fuel range. And the GTI looks better
@@neekjp as someone who doesn't know what he's talking about it's surprising I understand a simple concept you yourself have demonstrated to not know and that's that there is no such thing as perfect in engineering. You blew your argument on the starting line. Just like this gti tcr with it's 'perfect' launch control system eh?
@@ciankeulder802 actually the boot is smaller in my market and likely all markets as it makes little sense to offer a larger boot in certain markets. As for fuel costs if you look at the 2 in the video you'd be spending the money saved (2mpg difference) on the insurance on the tcr so no frugality there to be gained once all is said and done. As for looks you're in a minority on that one.
Can't mash the gas fully and launch control, gotta ease into it. Man blew the tires off in the beginning lol.
I think it's just hard to launch the TCR, coz in the last video against the Type-R it struggled and because of that it lost
I feel it's the driver they must swap cars
nuf nuf I lost hopes when I saw the same driver again in TCR😂
Does the TCR has a panorama roof? The hyundai has, so it's extra 120kg..don't know why it's that heavy, but it's the specs 🤷🏼♂️
@Adam Sam there is only one sunroof option for the golf and it‘s called panorama roof. In my opinion the name is confusing, because it‘S just a tiny bit bigger than a regulat sunroof and by no means a panorama sunroof. It does look big from the outside tho
@Adam Sam of course it's a panorama roof. It goes from the front to the back.. Dude, I am driving this car, I know what I am saying 🤷🏼♂️
@Adam Sam in the Hyundai configurator it's called in germany "Panorama-Glas-Schiebedach
" - translated word for word its "panorama-glas-sunroof"
120 kg, no, nuch less: 20 to 40 kg
@@dominiquedistefano I just checked the specs on a offcicial hyundai data sheet and it says 80kg extra.. I guess i disunderstood the thing with 120kg but the sheet says defininitly 80kg
Ciro I saw you around kenilworth/ claremont CPT 2days ago driving that stunning TCR
Impossible, that press car (299/300) came to Somerset West 2 days ago. Was a lady driving it?
I think Ciro lives in Kenilworth because in the 1 vid he shows the outside of his flat and looks like Kenilworth to me
Stalking a UA-cam’s?
Please release the brake at the count of 2, so you both can launch on 3. You would've smoked that Type R, if you launched correct......
wouldn't it make more sense for the standard gti to go against the i30n
They are plenty of races whereby between the standard GTi and the I30N, sadly the I30N makes a standard GTi looks way slow
More sense manual for manual
@@WandileSolani Because a normal GTI is slow
Remember i30N costs 679k while the TCR costs 675k so it is a fair comparison. The standard GTI costs ways less, over 110k less it's not the direct competitor.
I30N would humiliate the standard GTI...and GTI fan boys would not be able to deal with that kinda @ss whipping...facts
Give us the golf 8 VS the latest model I30N
I think you can better not use the launch control and just hit the break and gas at the same time.
Needed another go without using the golfs launch control
Man, the Gti launch control is surprisingly bad. Same thing happened with the Civic. VW should have got off the line way better considering power to weight.
Please do a drag race with a dct i30n vs a manual golf R. That new gearbox should make a huge difference even if I dont expect the i30n to win.
Dct vs dct
The manual golf R never came to SA only in the MK6 R
Then try tcr again without launch control . Why not do a second run without launching or with tcs on.
Its not a tcs issue its the clutch not engaging quickly. But sure he could have just raced without the launch and would have been a better race to watch
Great video. Just not sure if the TCR can't launch or its driver's reaction. This is the 2nd video where the launch was delayed
if you play the video with the sound on you will hear him say that the launch control is delayed, you let go of the brake and the car launches a moment later.
@@odiseven thanks, how the heck did you know I played it with 🔉 off 🤣🤣🤣
@@ghost_lukh What? You did?... I was trying to be rude 🤣😂🤣
hahaha this exchange is hilarious
Hope the facelift arrives in SA *fingers crossed*
I had to look twice at your name buddy😀😀🤣🤣🤣🤣
Doubt it, still haven't seen one on the road
Your drag races are awsome but devastatingly short make them longer please add some doughnuts and rolling races
This is not carwow 🤦🏻♂️
Ash is a badass Launcher...
I thought it was Jimmy Kimmel in the thumbnail 😂
How much is Hyundai paying
Please rematch with the civic. The gti Tcr is quick, maybe it's using the wrong tyre pressure in order for it to keep spinning like that. Reduce the pressure or make the tyres hot. Let's have another go @ the civic
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Well... same bad time reaction of VW driver. Please change it and try again, if you want be considered a reference in terms of drags, measure the times of 1/4 and 0-100, make various trys with different drivers or just watch CarWow... sorry but its the same bad test of Civic Type R
The facelift is 280ps 390Nm over 100kg light and DCT 0-62 in 5.4s here in Australia... so a lot faster and more of a match...
5.4s 😯? Are u sure
@@popsandbangs8858 very the manual is now 5.9... increased power from 202kw and 378Nm to 206kw and 392Nm... 110kg lighter as well**
Tav N 110kg lighter ?
@@popsandbangs8858 weight saving on the new forged alloy wheels alone saves about 14kg on unsprung mass
Selwyn Swartz guys I’ve read it’s 60kg heavier and they saved 30kg so it’s 1450kg
Its a dct tho
When the Hyundai driver said "Right", it took me back to school.
is that RS a Trophy, Cup or Lux
They said its the Trophy in the first drag race between the TCR and Type R
@@GoofySmuf better but must other wish is for EDC not manual gearbox
Haybo the video over so soon 🧐
He didn't use the launch control function, just launch it manually. What a fail.
Jimmy Kimmel has the aussie accent down. I also had no idea he's a car enthusiast.
Thats South African. It sounds nothing like Australian.
Blake Roberts close enough.
@@BBRBGR They sound similar, sort of like an Australian trying to not sound Australian. Then you have other south africans with a straight up British accent as a result of being educated at formerly English colony schools.
Then you have those that pronounce country as "cow-ntry" who got their education who knows where.
Looks like Ciro dozed off. Luckily tcr did not disappoint
Funny how the car with a dsg box is lighter
I think gti witj performance pack can beat that i30n
Manual for manual nerve... get ur performance pack again the project c which is a carbon fibre version
Tav N gti will still win by a margin
@@gurnihal12 what gti manual will beat an I30N performance?? ua-cam.com/video/z0G1cIupdpg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/LpyfAWsplTA/v-deo.html c what it does to your performance pack gti
Tav n that gti is not dsg
Stock Fraudwagen GTI vs i30 N - fair comparison!
Hahaha another pressed hyundai fanboy
hard to watch 😪
love the TCR
Bro you need to feather the accelerator with a mk7 especially off the line , full power will just cause zero traction. Theres no way a manual car is beating a dsg . What a shame
Reaction time
Nxo you can't just drive in TCR give it to other people!
just wait till the MK8...
This lot ever driven a car before this?
I must say with the weight and torque disadvantage...and the Korean manual( TCR is not so impressive)..Just bear in mind Vw has been doing hot hatches for ages😨..this is the Koreans first attempt(they must just make a special)and its not even a 1/300 limited😉
This video doesn’t show impressive the TCR actually is. They weight about the same and the TCR does have a 15hp advantage not much though. But it you check out the actual paper times you’ll see that the tcr smokes the i30n at 0-60 and is almost a full second faster at 1/4 miles which is a huge difference
fastestlaps.com/comparisons/p92soviigfmc
You should look at Nürburgring lap times before saying the TCR is not impressive.
Do you know that hyundai werent even the engineers for the i30N.The developers were from BMW.If hyundai made it themselves it would be an absolute shitbox
I am glad the name Hyundai is NOW mentioned amongst THE vws
@@nkaiseng4698 the i30N is developed by BMW bruh its not hyundai's car lmao
Shame no pan roof
Apparently the i30N is more expensive than the rabbit🐇
No matter what you drive or where you from there will always be a vw faster than you 😂😂😂😂😂
Really... even when I am in a GT3RS, Taycan, Model S performance???
Except if you drive a Civic Type R it seems Lol
@@afrikengunner they are all VW though😂
@@derickturner2655 just because the look like a beetle does not make it a VW... they don't have the money to make things that reliable... but they have money to lie about exhaust fumes 🥱
@@afrikengunner get one I'll race you
tcr beast
At the traffic lights that’s an L for the tcr
Learn to drive DSG, watch Carwow and compensate for the launch delay, Matt does it well on Carwow 👍🏼 making the VW looks bad for nothing
True
Oh yes that's the race where the golf R lost to a typeR.....
Cheating the green light is not fair...
How is cheating a green light when it your golf leaves a second later after a green light?
Yeah, anyone knows in drag racing especially timed racing, you want to leave soon as it turns green for the best reaction time so it's not cheating unless you leave on Red baba!
Unfair drag
DCT vs Manual oh Jesus. Also the slow pre facelift model of the i30N🙄 Facelift with DCT easy beats the Golf.
I predict the TCI is a winner
amateur hour again... what are you doing in that tcr ... its like watching the race between type r and tcr again...
I'd like to see these 2 cars against a beams corolla 🤣.
My 17 year old nissan still puts up an good fight against the mk7.5 performace.
There is only 300 tcr's. I choose i30n
What a stupid race, that is a special edition GTI with lots more power than the standard version, and costs a lot more than the i30N it’s also DCT, and the N is manual, also the N has a pano roof which adds 50kgs of weight, put the new facelift i30N against a standard GTI and it’ll murder it.
Man that TCR'S launche controll is teribble😂😂
The Guy behind the wheel is the Problem not the launch control
@@Chris-tq2xu no its been proven to be utter crap....
No it hasn't been proven that's false no offence . The mk7 is better off launching at a slower speed the leaning how to feather .
Wow golf always the best and winner
No manual car is beating a competitive automatic car
Honda Civic Type R in the last one did.
Re-think that statement...
These reces are redundant you need to go manual vs manual... better race will be i30N vs Megane R.s280 but they will probably have the 300 lol... Rigged just like everything in Africa lol
TCR destroyed N, despite your sleepy RT and cold tyres.
A car with more bhp? Whats the point its obviously going to win, just like the N destroys the normal GTI
@@denomoable TCR has only little bit more HP than N, on paper....
Race the new i30N
Is that the Golf killer?? kidding me.
This guy is a fart tho, against the civic you knew the launch is delayed.... I mean don't they test the cars?? Even if he just pressed the accelerator it would have been faster.
Launching before the green light to counter VWs delay would be cheating.
@@aslam7952 it wouldn't be cheating if the car only leaves on the green.... Plus if he took off without the launch control I am sure it would have been better
Vw decided to do a TCR because their normal gti was buried ...Anyways...DCT I30N will deal with a VW again
GTI🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Come on guys, the gti TCR has 11 kw more than the I30n, 213 kw to 202kw. TCR has 27nm more torque, 380nm to 353nm. Torque on the TCR available at 1700rpm compared to 4700rpm on the I30n. I should have said this first, the TCR has a dsg gearbox I30n has a manual. To conclude the gti weigh 194 km less, 1310kg to 1504kg on the I30n. This drag is for non car enthusiast.
I'd still take the i30N though....underrated her in SA...
GOLF TCR win ~
I'd throw in my Giulietta QV Squadra Corsa and end the argument.
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