Feathering Light: The Secret to Perfect Portraits Revealed!

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  • @billydonerson1581
    @billydonerson1581 27 днів тому +7

    I like direct. It gives her skin that pop! Both look great!

  • @silvinaslatopolsky2121
    @silvinaslatopolsky2121 7 годин тому

    I learn a lot from your videos. Thank you very much

  • @claudiodesat1442
    @claudiodesat1442 21 день тому +2

    You are correct, and I had noticed this, as well. I think this misconception derives from more light being bounced around, particularly in locations with white walls. That in turns creates a degree of stray ambient light, which appears to soften the contrast between light and shadows.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  21 день тому +1

      Ah that is a good point. A previous commenter said that it may have been a very cheap uneven softbox. I think I might like your explanation a little more but maybe it was both!

  • @Elassyahmed
    @Elassyahmed Місяць тому +1

    For me, feathering is to primarily avoid having a hot spot from the modifier as pointing it away means the hot spot will hit a point camera left in case of your first shot.
    What is also at play here is the inverse square law, because of how close the modifier is to the subject (still referring to the first comparison shot), the feathered position causes a quick drop of intensity from her right to left shoulder, and the position of the softbox can not 'see' the left side (camera right) of her face, hence the increase in contrast of the two factors combined.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому +1

      By hot spot do you mean the face of the modifiers significantly uneven?

    • @Elassyahmed
      @Elassyahmed Місяць тому +2

      @@JohnGress that's correct. I use relatively cheaper softboxes (Godox and Neewer), and although they have two diffusion layers, at the center, light is still a bit hotter than the rest of the surface of the last layer of diffusion, hence why I feather it away so that hot spot is shining away from the face/body of the model

  • @jay10242
    @jay10242 Місяць тому +3

    I like how you take the crops in a shot. The green velvet chair example. The light brings it to life but it's not distracting. And of course your color palette with the texture is always amazing.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you so much! I really appreciate it!

    • @Paparazzionsite
      @Paparazzionsite 26 днів тому

      Amazing work! Do you mind sharing the brand and color of the emergald green paint used? ❤ ​@@JohnGress

  • @gregorylagrange
    @gregorylagrange 17 днів тому

    Good to know what feathering is and what it does. And you should also experiment with what differing degrees of feathering does by rotating the light different amounts between directly at the person to directly across the person.
    Just like with window light how the light has a different look and affect from standing in the middle of the window to moving back and moving forward across the window plane.
    As well as small changes in moving closer to away from a window to see where there's a unique distance where you get good contrast with softness to the shadow. While other distances look like a choice of you get softness but low contrast, or contrast but little softness.

  • @leedodge4227
    @leedodge4227 Місяць тому +1

    Many, many years ago a teacher showed us how to feather
    lights (with 10" tungsten reflectors). Use the falloff to your
    advantage, not disadvantage.

  • @StoicJason
    @StoicJason Місяць тому +1

    Saw the building shot with the train and said “Hey I’ve been there!”
    Another great video, John.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks! You're welcome anytime!

  • @ringoffireguy
    @ringoffireguy Місяць тому

    This was very helpful. Thank you. Even though I already know about feathering light, I continually fall back into my same bad habits and put it directly on my model. This reinforces the fact that I need to get out of my bad habits and think more creatively.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      That’s great to hear! I hope it helps!

  • @stupendously_creative
    @stupendously_creative 6 днів тому

    Very great breakdown

  • @stewsview5164
    @stewsview5164 Місяць тому

    Since I control my studio light so much I always use a softbox with a grid so I am using the light directly on to the subject. I honestly never tried non grid single key light softbox before. I think I might have to try it out to sculpt the body in a different way than I normally do. Love your videos. Love your information. Totally love your studio. lol

  • @jackhowdeshell2529
    @jackhowdeshell2529 Місяць тому

    Great refresher to your in-person workshop, the "L". Thank you.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      Thanks Jack! Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @mpn3rxm
    @mpn3rxm Місяць тому

    Thank you for explaining this in detail....The "L". I have seen many others talk about it but never actually walk us through it.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      You're welcome! I hope it helps!

    • @mpn3rxm
      @mpn3rxm Місяць тому

      @@JohnGress Yes, it already has... its a small tweak for me, but a key step when trying to get it right in camera

  • @QuantzPhoto
    @QuantzPhoto Місяць тому +1

    So much good information in this video! Thanks John!

  • @codythep
    @codythep Місяць тому

    Dude, screw the feathering, your UA-cam setup is incredible!
    Would even love a video on this

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      Ha! Thanks. There is a video! New UA-cam Studio & Office Tour - Interior Design LED Lighting for my video Setup
      ua-cam.com/video/xp98tUe5Jsk/v-deo.html

  • @Mowikan
    @Mowikan 27 днів тому

    You have such great craftsmanship. Great video again!

  • @user-ss8ip8zm9j
    @user-ss8ip8zm9j Місяць тому

    Great information! I'm going to enjoy practicing this technique. Thank you John!

  • @carolinamaristad9369
    @carolinamaristad9369 Місяць тому

    You are my favorite photographer and mentor❤❤❤❤

  • @theJoeyDutch
    @theJoeyDutch Місяць тому

    From practicing it myself, feathering is supposed to also show "an evenness in the light spread" on any subject.

  • @jmitchvision
    @jmitchvision 25 днів тому

    Great work as always brother!! I pray all is well!! 📷

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  24 дні тому

      Thanks! Much appreciated

  • @silvinaslatopolsky2121
    @silvinaslatopolsky2121 Місяць тому

    love your tutorials. Great educator. Thanks

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      Thank you so much! Glad you like them!

  • @melvinwaldon7543
    @melvinwaldon7543 Місяць тому

    First time watching. Love this video. Great explanation and well done. ❤❤❤❤📸📸📸📸

  • @ronin5th
    @ronin5th Місяць тому

    Thanks John. very informative. The images were exquisite.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @barkyvonschnauzer2188
    @barkyvonschnauzer2188 Місяць тому

    Perfectly clear. Thank you John

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      Thank you so much! I hope it helps!

  • @luissalazar2021
    @luissalazar2021 Місяць тому

    Great stuff, thanks for sharing

  • @Maz-2393
    @Maz-2393 Місяць тому

    Informative video and liked the L explanation too. Thank you.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      Thanks ! Glad it was helpful!

  • @photozen8398
    @photozen8398 17 днів тому

    When you feather the light it becomes smaller surface , harsher . when you directly pointing it to her the surface is larger hence softer. all boils down to how large or small is your light to the subject.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  17 днів тому

      5:15 ua-cam.com/video/ZX9CHCtElOc/v-deo.htmlsi=VvNGbiLVRgEEOUIh&t=315

    • @photozen8398
      @photozen8398 17 днів тому

      @@JohnGress I never seen this great video before, DITTO…!! Makes all the sense.

  • @bobsykes
    @bobsykes Місяць тому

    That last shot at about 8:15 in the video is gorgeous. I love these one light techniques (okay, almost, but I guess a mortal human who only owned one light could use a reflector) are so practical. When you use your “L Technique” it clearly matters where you stand, relative to both the light and the model. Is the goal for you to stand right where the light is aimed directly? A last thought; a lesson or several about using these techniques with natural lighting in a variety of situations (outside the studio) would be really informative.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому +3

      Thanks Bob! I think that’s my favorite photo from the shoot too. You’re 100% correct about using a reflector rather than a second light. I should have made it more clear that my L is for when I stand perpendicular or 90 degrees from the cameras line of site. I should have included a diagram and made that more clear. But if you know what it looks like when they’re too far forward you’ll know when they’re not in it.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      At 407 in this video I start talking about an example that I show at 428 where I am not in the L on the left and in it on the right.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      ua-cam.com/video/046aT8fq93Y/v-deo.htmlsi=wBOXy3dS5q3DvqHy

    • @bobsykes
      @bobsykes Місяць тому

      @@JohnGressThanks.

  • @lisamacophoto
    @lisamacophoto 29 днів тому +1

    Does the "rule" of having the bottom of the modifier at about chin-level of the subject apply no matter how large the modifier? I'm thinking of my giant 7' umbrella with diffusion, which I love. If I have a seated adult whose chin is 3-3.5', I'd need pretty considerable ceiling height of 10' or more. What's the problem with the modifier being lower? you are lighting the body as well? So if I want to use the large modifier to light the body and the face, seems like I'm ok, right?

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  28 днів тому +2

      HI Lisa, What I really meant to say is the majority of the modifier should be above the jaw, but it's better if all of it is above the jaw. What you don't want to happen is to have the majority BELOW the jaw, because that will cause the shadows to go up. The main reason why I say the bottom at jaw level is so that it guarantees the shadows go down.

    • @lisamacophoto
      @lisamacophoto 28 днів тому

      @@JohnGress Ah ha! Shadows going down not up makes perfect sense. Thanks

  • @femifos
    @femifos Місяць тому

    This is so insightful John. Thank you!
    Is that a one light set-up right?

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      Glad to hear it! The photos of her are two lights.

  • @haseoxdualblades4126
    @haseoxdualblades4126 Місяць тому

    Awesome work. Thank you for the detailed information. What is your set designed of? Would love to try a set like this.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks! You're in luck... there is a video for this! ua-cam.com/video/dCkgvhEzQo8/v-deo.html

  • @MartinV.
    @MartinV. Місяць тому

    Great Video

  • @BerniceOlivia
    @BerniceOlivia Місяць тому +1

    I rather saw the images not retouched when you compare them, texture now looks off. Because when you feather to just make a smaller light, why not use a smaller octa/dish.

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому +1

      Not feathering a smaller modifier verses feathering a larger modifier would result in different shadowing.

  • @eimclark
    @eimclark Місяць тому +1

    Excellent John yet again. Sometimes when I have been feathering the light I can see the physical edge of where the light is hitting my background and this produces a somewhat obvious divide on the background rather than a smooth gradation.
    It's sometimes hard to make that divide go away when posing the model in the set. Are there key angles or position/distance guides like your "L" I could fall on to solve this when it happens? Thanks

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you! It could be that your modifier is too small and therefore too hard and that is what causes that abrupt transition, but it might also be that you just need to rotate it more towards the camera and away from the wall

    • @eimclark
      @eimclark Місяць тому

      @@JohnGress I'm using a 120cm Octa or 120cm parabolic umbrella. I'll try angling more towards the camera as suggested. Many thanks for your reply

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому +1

      @@eimclark Sure thing!

  • @acesofgambit
    @acesofgambit Місяць тому

    wow thanks for this video. can you please do a fashion shot using real leaves shadows without using gobo. thanks

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      Thanks! Not a bad idea for fall.

  • @greggeis918
    @greggeis918 9 днів тому

    What I’m curious about is are you just turning a round soft box into a thin strip box? That’s what I see as the model. Is that oversimplified?

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  9 днів тому

      its a little oversimplified because the far side of the feathered softbox can see more than the far side of the strip box.

  • @Underthesnow31
    @Underthesnow31 Місяць тому

    Super intéressant John 👍🏼 merci 😊

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      Merci beaucoup! I hope you found the French sous titre aussi!

    • @Underthesnow31
      @Underthesnow31 Місяць тому

      @@JohnGress 😂😂 don’t worry I studied English at Uni , I don’t need any subtitles 😉

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      You’re probably better at English than me! I just used chat gpt to help me add titles, descriptions and subtitles in 6 languages including French.

    • @Underthesnow31
      @Underthesnow31 Місяць тому

      @@JohnGress haha thank you John. In fact I noticed that some subtitles were wrong especially when you use the term feathering which is translated as "plume" in french (but in our language it only refers to the feather of a bird 😂) Anyway if you need help to translate some videos i can help you 😉

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      Thanks! Ha, I bet whatever word you use in French for feathering is the word we should be using!

  • @photo2000
    @photo2000 Місяць тому +1

    I think whoever first came up with the claim that feathered light is softer than direct light probably missed physics class 😂... but from a medium where people think that a black beauty dish produces softer light than a white one, I guess we cant be surprised 🤷‍♂

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      No comment! Someone else said this might have gotten started because someone was using a very uneven softbox.

    • @photo2000
      @photo2000 Місяць тому +1

      @@JohnGress lovely shots btw John!! love the textures and tones, and model did an amazing job 👍

  • @mroblige1018
    @mroblige1018 Місяць тому

    Love it when photogs use dark skin models. So many complain and lie that it's hard to take photos and edit African American models. It's really not that difficult at all

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому

      Photographing someone with a darker skin tone might require just a little more fill or exposure and that its...

  • @arangodan
    @arangodan Місяць тому

    At 5:04, it looks like you get filled in from camera right from some light bouncing back from the wall

    • @arangodan
      @arangodan Місяць тому

      Feathering to get the same amount of light metered on you probably requires more power, which fill in that camera right side

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому +1

      It was about 1.5 stops more light. The wall is about 9 feet away and mostly what is over there are black drapes. It is possible the light is bouncing off neutral gray ceiling or floor. But that’s not what’s causing the light to look harder it’s looking harder because of its decreased size.

  • @robertruffo2134
    @robertruffo2134 Місяць тому +6

    Feathering only makes light softer IF you are using a cheap crap softbox with bad diffusion. That's where the myth comes from, because those cheap softboxes get better performance when feathering reduces their hotspot and leakage of direct bulb through the fabric when used head-on

    • @JohnGress
      @JohnGress  Місяць тому +4

      I suspected that but couldn’t really prove it.

    • @WatchThatFirstStep
      @WatchThatFirstStep 16 днів тому +1

      What softbox would you recommend?

  • @huanliu1449
    @huanliu1449 3 дні тому

    direct much better

  •  Місяць тому +1

    Too close and too deep to produce the painterly feathered light effect.

    • @henrycartier
      @henrycartier 16 днів тому +1

      So to the painterly feathered light you need a shallow box (which size?) and more distance from it? I have always loved that look but not 100% sure how to setup such lighting