Here's to the REAL AMERICAN SPIRIT of nearly complete INDEPENDENCE from everything. This is what life is like when you earn your living. My hat is off to you, The Dessecker Brothers. Thanks for the great video.
I. Don't. Blaine. That. Man. For. Not. Eating. In. Restaurants. I. Don't. Either. Y. Ancestors. Lived. In. The. Plateau. Country. In. New. Yozrk. Most. Places. That. I. Have. Traveled. To. Have. Been. In. The. Deep. South. Part. South. I. Of. Hazzard. Kentuczky
james bivens Let’s be honest: they were certainly collecting gov’t benefits from being WW-II vets. Also Medicare or Medicaid. They used electricity which at the time was likely coal powered which for big mines was massively government subsidized. They used publically financed roads.
@@TheBeingReal @TheBeingReal vet Benefits? Don't know if they did or not. As VETS they most certainly deserved them, used or not. Medicare & Medicaid? Not even sure if that (health insurance) was around at that time, they ran mostly off of generators till they got power, which I'm sure they paid for, they wouldn't let mine inspectors or any government officials on or in their mines so I'm positive they recieved NO subsidies and as for the roads????? Huh?, everyone used the roads.
Cool video .. I grew up in Northest Ohio , And for a while in Pennsylvania , My Dad was a Pennsylvania Coalminer ..He got sick with Blacklung and we moved to Florida because he couldn't take the cold of up north anymore , He passed away January 30th 1988 at 49 years old , Blacklung was horrible watching my Dad as he got sicker and sicker over the years until he passed away ...I asked My Dad one time ? If you could go back in time , Would you work the mines again ? My Dad told me " I loved the Coalminers , it raised 6 of you kids and you're Mother ...He said I would do it all over again for you kids ....My Dad weighed 84 pounds when he passed away on the couch in our front room ..Love you Dad . Rest in Peace until we meet again
My question : Who will pay for the engineering, cleaning up past pollution so the property will adhere to current government mandates, pay for the endless permits and inspections and upkeep to preserve the property ? Even if this could be achieved the reconstruction costs would be enormous.
The boyscouts "ended up with it," asshat. The government had to clean-up the toxic waste created by these two outlaws because no one else was going to do it.
@@roberthedges7203 It should have went to next of kin but im sure they taxed the hell out of the land its how the gov gets away with theft. The coal could have easily been buried. Many people live near coal mines today. Its just government theft plain and simple.
@@roberthedges7203 FYI, the "boyscouts" did not end up with it! For many decades, Camp Tuscazoar served as a Boy Scout camp, owned and operated by the McKinley Council (now the Buckeye Council), headquartered in nearby Canton. The Camp Tuscazoar Foundation, Inc., a non-profit group, owns and operates the property that was once Camp Tuscazoar .
@@carlhorn1791 Coal mining in Ohio was in serious decline before Bill Clinton was elected..Obama had NOTHING to do with it since he was still in college.
I was born and raised in Tuscarawas County and had never heard about this mine! Very cool to see and hear about it now. The twins sound like amazing and ingenious man!
I am born and raised in Ohio!!! I love it and will never leave!!! I really liked this post!!! Wish i could start a mine!!! Great CHANNEL i subscribed!!!!!
I was hiking this area several years ago and walked into the old mine area. I saw the contamination and thanked the beavers who dammed up the ravines that emptied into the Tuscarawas River. Now the mine and the pollutants are gone. Replaced by video and photographs. The land is clean and can be enjoyed by all. Thank you Camp Tuscazoar and the ODNR.
Hey ODNR, I appreciate this tribute to the "fighting Desseckers" as you begin working to erase any physical evidence of their lives. I've done some automobile repair on my own property.. I think I spilled a drop or two of motor oil. How long do I have before you come "reclaim" my "worksite" and add it to the TOTALITY of "public green space" that you will have when you eventually take EVERYTHING from EVERYONE and then your big government colleagues demand our "gratitude" for providing the public housing you'll have forced us all into. Government seems to acquire more land every year. Is there some target acreage number where you'll have "enough" and we can keep the rest? Or are you just going to keep on taking more every year until you have it all? (and at that point, who will pay the property taxes that fund your salaries, pensions and healthcare?)
@@michelewalburn4376 trees hugger? Me too!! I hug every tree i cut to make sure its big and mature enough to be harvested.. our saying is don't worry i hugged it first!
they sold to "locals" it was not like today with huge strip mines that destroy mountain tops while people get paid under the table to turn their heads, or the oil fracking operations--the list goes on and on.
@@richardlamm4826watch the video coal tailings are part of the waste and its not like we know the exact make up of the mine impurities can cause waste issues
Self Reliance ? Self Determination ? Look Gov. Kasich says we need the gov't to feed us. If we make budget cuts no one will eat. What is this foreign idea you speak of ?
I lived here all my life except military but i never knew this. It would have been neat to see it continue, let live. I live in a trailer with no heat, hot water n half electricity throughout. Putting in a potbelly stove. Wondering if allowed on property to pick up coal schards in the waste piles there??? I'd be interested
Wow what an amazing operation😮😊. How do you describe two men of such high caliber😍. Genius, determined, multitalented, inspirational, inventive......👍😍
Sad that they and mine become forgotten also this should of passed to any family and any money should of been put in a account until all avenues of finding any relatives hits a dead end not governments or foundations .
Larry Evans Idots. They erase all the landmarks by the men who created this country. I think the state looks down on folks like this. They rather crate a council full of boys in suits who have no idea what true work is. That’s looked down on now a days.
Coal mines are inherently dangerous places. They will eventually reclaim themselves when least expected. West bound I-70 collapsed in the lase 90's due to an unrecorded coal mine. I hope this offers an answer to your question. Even old unmaintained hard rock mine's in the west are being closed down because untrained people end up missing and dead.
I was told my grandfather used to work and I coal mine in Ohio his last name was Jerome Emerson Scott. He was a plumber. His twin sister was Jeannette (Dorotha)Elizabeth Scott. He also worked in mines in PA. We use to go there when I was real young. I hated it due to it was so Desolate no life of green growth near it. Oh my gosh the tipple. We used to have one at my fathers business it was a cement business but I remember the shaking of the coal on the belts going from one building to the other. Also going through supplying the energy right on Stevens Boulevard in Willoughby Ohio. My God is that old. I am old. Seeing this is like seeing my life at a young age again.
They were successfully mining room and pillar without a engineering degree along with everything else? that’s amazing. They must’ve had some surveyor skills also.
The American coal tipple is not so different from our designs but now we use continous non-stop vertical conveyors with ultrafine water misters and sprayers to keep the dust down completely.
I hope its not just torn down and covered up like it was never there or ever happened - like a lot of things in this country they try to berry the past
I would have preferred with no narrative and no music, which is what i thought the rest of the video was going to be. It gave it that dreary type of vibe was neat.
Now that place over and put up a tether-ball post with 2 strings and balls. Imagine how challenging that would be, 1 ball is pretty hard to keep up with
Some of these old strip pits have filled in with water and are home to many different animals and fish. If the water isn’t harmful, why “reclaim” that land?? Leave the land as it is. It’s been that way for 80+ years now!!
My Grandfather worked in coal mines from 1917, when he immigrated from the Ukraine, until he and my Grandmother saved enough money to buy a beautiful dairy farm in the Red Kill Valley, just outside the Village of Fleischmanns in the Catskill Mountains of New York State. My Father was born in Luke, Maryland not far from the West Virginia border.
Lucky lol I wish I had that on my farm in the process of building a experimental micro distillery I would love to have barrels stored in side that mine
Good Ol' Ohio DNR filling some of the best highwall ponds I've ever fished. An open empty field of grass is so much better than a pond full of fish and wildlife. Makes me sick to my stomach.
You jackass. Those ponds are "settling ponds," full of heavy metals and waste resultant from the mining process. They were poisoning the fish and wildlife you so enjoy. Makes me sick to my stomach.
Do you have any idea why those "ponds" were the color they were? Hint: heavy metals, the result of mining activities. Another hint: You wouldn't want to swim in that.....or draw you water from a well within many miles.
Tesla had the answer for free electricity but the American government put a stop to it because they could not make money, so it was toil toil after that .. wake up every body see what’s going on with authorities( .bastards)
The big corporations love these regulations because it pushes out the little guys that cause irritating competition. It’s the same in any industry. Someday we’ll be begging these little guys to start digging and drilling again.
As a Relative I’m trying to put together any and everything I can on our family so if you know any avenues let me know. I’ve gotten the stories from my dad as he used to hunt the property but refused to go into the mine but if anyone has factually stories I would love to hear them. Thanks
Hard work is frowned upon in this state. Especially the Rino’s who run it. They rather make a grass hill out of what work from real men can do. This should be a outdoor museum. Not a F-ing grass hill.
If you're a conservative in the U.S., you should walk away from the Republican Party, as it's not a conservative party. It's a reactionary right-wing party that really has little to do with what conservatism was ever really about as a philosophy. Guys like Edmond Burke wouldn't see much of their philosophy in the GOP's platform or function. It has nothing to do with gradual change or maintenance of institutions. It doesn't respect expertise or even really restrict the role of government in most people's lives. It certainly is divorced from reality when it comes to science. I say this as someone who is a conservative. A museum would be a proper way to honor these hard working men and it would be somewhat of a tourist attraction but all money to do this comes from taxes. Our current leaders would never allow it. I toured a coal mine museum in WV. Taking our family to the beach we detoured to the mountains and spent money in those communities. Their monetary investment to turn the mine into a museum easily paid them back and continues to do so.
In Illinois we had the coal mines, (our coal was poor) and then going eastwards the quality of the coal got worst, that in WV became bad. Now the best coal comes from Wyoming.
Do you just make this sh*t up? West Virginia coal is metallurgical grade-- the highest quality coal there is. Wyoming coal is high-sulphur, low-quality coal, suitable only for burning in power plants, and with the deregulation of the railroad it came into high demand because it was cost-effective to haul from the west.....much cheaper than high-quality West Virginia coal which is expensive to mine (sub-surface). West Virginia coal is most suited for making steel. With the steel industry tanking, WV coal-demand fell. Edited to add: I am an unemployed WV coal miner, put out of business because of railroad de-regulation which increased demand for low-quality Wyoming coal.
This makes me sick. I know that they'll just sale it to a wealthy company in a few years. Saod company will donate heavily to someone's family foundation and they'll launder that money through a shell company in Delaware.
Here's an idea: why don't you do a little research on Google to find out what happened to the property, instead of doing all your idiotic prophesizing? You'll quickly find out that you're very wrong!
@@gkess7106 Here in Xenia Ohio I fished the National Scenic River, "THE LITTLE MIAMI" in past years. The river was said to have high levels of E-coli in it. If you cooked the fish just right, it still tasted like shit. America has many real environmental problems without adding the over exaggerated SEA LEVEL RISE.
Lets just showcase that we tried to seal this shaft with unopened bags of quick mix concrete. 14:20 Who the hell got paid for that job...they made a killing haha
I hate how they referbish the land i think old mines should b ficed up like musems were you can take trips under grpund i love old abandond mines with equipment just left behind same as wen they fill are quarrys in up in newengland i love old granit quarrys we have some realy neat ones wheree the mew shut down on a friday and just never went back and its now a small deep lake
I grew up just up 77 from there in canton ohio and i remember these old timers from my youth.i really miss those type of americans and its impossible to tell the young how peoples values have changed and what they call american now is anything but american.
If I had a mine on my property no way I would tell anyone especially the government. All you will do is mess things up. Just like you did for these 2 men. Trying to shut them down. This is America land of the free and home of the ill kick your ass. Leave people alone
Here's to the REAL AMERICAN SPIRIT of nearly complete INDEPENDENCE from everything. This is what life is like when you earn your living. My hat is off to you, The Dessecker Brothers. Thanks for the great video.
I. Don't. Blaine. That. Man. For. Not. Eating. In. Restaurants. I. Don't. Either. Y. Ancestors. Lived. In. The. Plateau. Country. In. New. Yozrk. Most. Places. That. I. Have. Traveled. To. Have. Been. In. The. Deep. South. Part. South. I. Of. Hazzard. Kentuczky
@@kickthecan6253 Why. Are. You. Talking. Like. That.
They were true "do it yourselfers" with no help from anybody, not even the nosey ass government!
james bivens Let’s be honest: they were certainly collecting gov’t benefits from being WW-II vets. Also Medicare or Medicaid. They used electricity which at the time was likely coal powered which for big mines was massively government subsidized. They used publically financed roads.
@@TheBeingReal @TheBeingReal vet Benefits? Don't know if they did or not. As VETS they most certainly deserved them, used or not.
Medicare & Medicaid? Not even sure if that (health insurance) was around at that time, they ran mostly off of generators till they got power, which I'm sure they paid for, they wouldn't let mine inspectors or any government officials on or in their mines so I'm positive they recieved NO subsidies and as for the roads????? Huh?, everyone used the roads.
Cool video .. I grew up in Northest Ohio , And for a while in Pennsylvania , My Dad was a Pennsylvania Coalminer ..He got sick with Blacklung and we moved to Florida because he couldn't take the cold of up north anymore , He passed away January 30th 1988 at 49 years old , Blacklung was horrible watching my Dad as he got sicker and sicker over the years until he passed away ...I asked My Dad one time ? If you could go back in time , Would you work the mines again ? My Dad told me " I loved the Coalminers , it raised 6 of you kids and you're Mother ...He said I would do it all over again for you kids ....My Dad weighed 84 pounds when he passed away on the couch in our front room ..Love you Dad . Rest in Peace until we meet again
RIP
This history should be preserved not reclaimed.
everyone trying to erase our history so we can continue with NEW WORLD
My question : Who will pay for the engineering, cleaning up past pollution so the property will adhere to current government mandates, pay for the endless permits and inspections and upkeep to preserve the property ? Even if this could be achieved the reconstruction costs would be enormous.
The government can't do anything right!
@@billduckworth6760 I think your missing the point sir . its not about costs and clean up . it's about freedom
Then you should have bought it.
I'm from Mineral Ridge Ohio. Started as a mining town way back in the day. They even taught us about the mines and local history in elementary school!
Shit bro
Wow what a great story.
They are rolling in their graves about the government getting their hands on their land
Camp Tuscazoar will be great land stewards
I love history like this wish we could go back to the good old days when things were simple
I hear ya, I absolutely despise the times we are living in and it only gets worse as we creep closer to their new age.
Sweet no way would I tell anyone I saw an old mine so they could destroy history
OHIO is HOME & Home is where the Heart is. I LOVE THIS STATE.
I love ohio born and raised here
Why?
It's so sad that they destroyed all that this so the government can get their hands on it and pretend like they're saving it when they're not
So what would you want them to do with it? Just wondering.
Truly entropeneirs. Hard work and self reliant. Guys like these made America what it is
Jesus Christ. Spell check is your friend.
That is so sad that those guys work for 50 years then and then the government ended up with it all
It’s too bad because of the immensity of the stripping process that the top soil could not be segregated from the rest of the overburden.
The boyscouts "ended up with it," asshat. The government had to clean-up the toxic waste created by these two outlaws because no one else was going to do it.
@@roberthedges7203 related to jack hedges?
@@roberthedges7203 It should have went to next of kin but im sure they taxed the hell out of the land its how the gov gets away with theft. The coal could have easily been buried. Many people live near coal mines today. Its just government theft plain and simple.
@@roberthedges7203 FYI, the "boyscouts" did not end up with it! For many decades, Camp Tuscazoar served as a Boy Scout camp, owned and operated by the McKinley Council (now the Buckeye Council), headquartered in nearby Canton. The Camp Tuscazoar Foundation, Inc., a non-profit group, owns and operates the property that was once Camp Tuscazoar .
Don't remember hearing anything about this being sold like that. But they were my Grandpa's brother's family. Long live the Dessecker ingenuity!!!
I done this for 41 years and got laid off by Obama .Now I lose everything .
Then it should've gone to your family and any money come from selling all machines .
@@carlhorn1791
Coal mining in Ohio was in serious decline before Bill Clinton was elected..Obama had NOTHING to do with it since he was still in college.
Matt, claim your stake! Its yours!
@@lous5442 he did help finish it off though.
Awesome history lesson! Thank you for posting
I remember visiting my grandfather and walking the woods of Athens Ohio. Just past his property was Black Diamond Coal Co. Those are great memories!!
I was born and raised in Tuscarawas County and had never heard about this mine! Very cool to see and hear about it now. The twins sound like amazing and ingenious man!
I am born and raised in Ohio!!! I love it and will never leave!!! I really liked this post!!! Wish i could start a mine!!! Great CHANNEL i subscribed!!!!!
I was hiking this area several years ago and walked into the old mine area. I saw the contamination and thanked the beavers who dammed up the ravines that emptied into the Tuscarawas River. Now the mine and the pollutants are gone. Replaced by video and photographs. The land is clean and can be enjoyed by all. Thank you Camp Tuscazoar and the ODNR.
Interesting
I miss working for ODNR Triple C.
Was one of the best jobs. Learned so much in that program.
Hey ODNR, I appreciate this tribute to the "fighting Desseckers" as you begin working to erase any physical evidence of their lives.
I've done some automobile repair on my own property.. I think I spilled a drop or two of motor oil. How long do I have before you come "reclaim" my "worksite" and add it to the TOTALITY of "public green space" that you will have when you eventually take EVERYTHING from EVERYONE and then your big government colleagues demand our "gratitude" for providing the public housing you'll have forced us all into. Government seems to acquire more land every year. Is there some target acreage number where you'll have "enough" and we can keep the rest? Or are you just going to keep on taking more every year until you have it all? (and at that point, who will pay the property taxes that fund your salaries, pensions and healthcare?)
They plan to take it all. That is why they have us so divided. We're going back to the days before those pesky socialists started the unions.
@@michelewalburn4376 trees hugger? Me too!! I hug every tree i cut to make sure its big and mature enough to be harvested.. our saying is don't worry i hugged it first!
Used engine oil keeps the weeds from growing on the fence. 4 times or more a year you have to do it again.
this is example of what made america
they sold to "locals" it was not like today with huge strip mines that destroy mountain tops while people get paid under the table to turn their heads, or the oil fracking operations--the list goes on and on.
@Benaiah Ahmadinejad boot licker
they still left a area with mine waste behind thats going to take effort to clean up i mean did you see that water
@@richardlamm4826watch the video coal tailings are part of the waste and its not like we know the exact make up of the mine impurities can cause waste issues
Yeah fuck affordable energy for you to heat your homes.
Beautiful story ❤ That is a great American story to represent us
I lived 2 miles from there. Road my dirt bike thru there many times. Never knew the history tho. This is super awesome
This is really cool I've been to the area many times, this gives me incentive to head back
WoooooW that was interesting to know, never knew that, you learn something new everyday. Especially when you are furthering your education
Found this hiking through the woods around camp tuscazoar in 2016. Pretty neat!!
Self Reliance ? Self Determination ? Look Gov. Kasich says we need the gov't to feed us. If we make budget cuts no one will eat. What is this foreign idea you speak of ?
Thank you for sharing this story.
i would love to meet the fellow that worked with the family and talk with him ...
He's a wonderful man to talk to, but very private. At first, he was pretty uneasy about being on camera for this.
I lived here all my life except military but i never knew this. It would have been neat to see it continue, let live. I live in a trailer with no heat, hot water n half electricity throughout. Putting in a potbelly stove. Wondering if allowed on property to pick up coal schards in the waste piles there??? I'd be interested
Wow what an amazing operation😮😊. How do you describe two men of such high caliber😍. Genius, determined, multitalented, inspirational, inventive......👍😍
True American History.. Excellent Video of our Great American Culture. God Bless. Long live the American Spirit
The Deseckers Were What Built America!! Determination, Intelligence etc....
Sad that they and mine become forgotten also this should of passed to any family and any money should of been put in a account until all avenues of finding any relatives hits a dead end not governments or foundations .
coal mining is dying out and no ones gonna buy a piece of land filled with coal waste the gov will repair the land to limit water damage
The only remaining family member is the one who sold it.
Why would they not preserve places like this? Make them a historical learning site.
Larry Evans
Beckley WV has one.
We in Britain have 3
Larry Evans Idots. They erase all the landmarks by the men who created this country. I think the state looks down on folks like this. They rather crate a council full of boys in suits who have no idea what true work is. That’s looked down on now a days.
Coal mines are inherently dangerous places. They will eventually reclaim themselves when least expected. West bound I-70 collapsed in the lase 90's due to an unrecorded coal mine. I hope this offers an answer to your question. Even old unmaintained hard rock mine's in the west are being closed down because untrained people end up missing and dead.
I was told my grandfather used to work and I coal mine in Ohio his last name was Jerome Emerson Scott. He was a plumber. His twin sister was Jeannette (Dorotha)Elizabeth Scott. He also worked in mines in PA. We use to go there when I was real young. I hated it due to it was so Desolate no life of green growth near it. Oh my gosh the tipple. We used to have one at my fathers business it was a cement business but I remember the shaking of the coal on the belts going from one building to the other. Also going through supplying the energy right on Stevens Boulevard in Willoughby Ohio. My God is that old. I am old. Seeing this is like seeing my life at a young age again.
They were successfully mining room and pillar without a engineering degree along with everything else? that’s amazing. They must’ve had some surveyor skills also.
I would love to look around for benches or cabinets or old rusty interesting things
Wow very cool adventure, being from those parts you got to be familiar with Simon Keaton....
Government will do what ever it takes to control the citizens
Abandoned mines are cool. Don't ruin them.
The American coal tipple is not so different from our designs but now we use continous non-stop vertical conveyors with ultrafine water misters and sprayers to keep the dust down completely.
So glad I watched this.
If you mine coal, you have to allow inspections. Even if you don't have employees. It has the potential to case damage to people and the land.
Government college dweebs who think they know everything and have never done a days work in their life.
You mean establishment whores? Lol the fuckers who need to be locked up for fucking with our lives and general welfare?
Only the wealthy benefit from anything in this country.
I hope its not just torn down and covered up like it was never there or ever happened - like a lot of things in this country they try to berry the past
Perfect example of government over reach.
Living in Jefferson county to the east, I wish I could go visit this mine.
the companies need to be held accountable for the coast of reclaiming and return of clean water
Thank you this is very helpful.
A well mitigated film
I would have preferred with no narrative and no music, which is what i thought the rest of the video was going to be. It gave it that dreary type of vibe was neat.
Now that place over and put up a
tether-ball post with 2 strings and balls.
Imagine how challenging that would be, 1 ball is pretty hard to keep up with
Abandon mine land is some if the best riding around
5:05 how do you accidentally give a baby acid?
The DNR guy at the end is a asshat quit destroying the old mines and her history
Damn govt gotta take everything over and destroy individuals hard work. Should have been turned into a historical site.
Is this the one out on the hill near the park now?
The spirit of Ohioan's
Some of these old strip pits have filled in with water and are home to many different animals and fish. If the water isn’t harmful, why “reclaim” that land?? Leave the land as it is. It’s been that way for 80+ years now!!
My Grandfather worked in coal mines from 1917, when he immigrated from the Ukraine, until he and my Grandmother saved enough money to buy a beautiful dairy farm in the Red Kill Valley, just outside the Village of Fleischmanns in the Catskill Mountains of New York State. My Father was born in Luke, Maryland not far from the West Virginia border.
Lucky lol I wish I had that on my farm in the process of building a experimental micro distillery I would love to have barrels stored in side that mine
Good Ol' Ohio DNR filling some of the best highwall ponds I've ever fished. An open empty field of grass is so much better than a pond full of fish and wildlife. Makes me sick to my stomach.
You jackass. Those ponds are "settling ponds," full of heavy metals and waste resultant from the mining process. They were poisoning the fish and wildlife you so enjoy. Makes me sick to my stomach.
Was.... was someone making wind noises with their mouth at the beginning of this video?
What a waste of Money- it should have been left alone, sold, and finished being stripped.
There a lot of open mines that were dredge out and still are in Ohio
Those stringent laws sure didn't hit the wealthy mine owners though now did they?
I think they should leave it. It can still be welcoming green space. But that is apart of our history. LEAVE IT UP!
Do you have any idea why those "ponds" were the color they were? Hint: heavy metals, the result of mining activities. Another hint: You wouldn't want to swim in that.....or draw you water from a well within many miles.
How did the sate end up with their property?
Where exactly is it located?
Hi Steve, not hard to find on google maps. I'll give you a hint. Boy Scout Road. Tusc Co.
Yep. I pass within 1/4 mile of it a couple times a week.
40.549850,-81.404327 i think there
I hope the brothers RIP.
Good to see the government hasn't forgotten how to bury American history. Could have made a great museum space.
And how did the government do that? Did you watch the video? The brothers died and the only still-living relative sold the land to the boy scouts.
Tesla had the answer for free electricity but the American government put a stop to it because they could not make money, so it was toil toil after that .. wake up every body see what’s going on with authorities( .bastards)
The big corporations love these regulations because it pushes out the little guys that cause irritating competition. It’s the same in any industry. Someday we’ll be begging these little guys to start digging and drilling again.
As a Relative
I’m trying to put together any and everything I can on our family so if you know any avenues let me know. I’ve gotten the stories from my dad as he used to hunt the property but refused to go into the mine but if anyone has factually stories I would love to hear them. Thanks
Why doesn't your family fight this?
Don’t worry, the gubmint will take care of you!
I'm surprised Peabody coal didn't muscle them out of the way or take over control and ownershi;p.
They had the state do it maybe.
An operation of this size would not concern Peabody Coal.
Hard work is frowned upon in this state. Especially the Rino’s who run it. They rather make a grass hill out of what work from real men can do. This should be a outdoor museum. Not a F-ing grass hill.
They'll sale it quietly in a few years.
@@michelewalburn4376 To frackers
If you're a conservative in the U.S., you should walk away from the Republican Party, as it's not a conservative party. It's a reactionary right-wing party that really has little to do with what conservatism was ever really about as a philosophy. Guys like Edmond Burke wouldn't see much of their philosophy in the GOP's platform or function. It has nothing to do with gradual change or maintenance of institutions. It doesn't respect expertise or even really restrict the role of government in most people's lives. It certainly is divorced from reality when it comes to science. I say this as someone who is a conservative. A museum would be a proper way to honor these hard working men and it would be somewhat of a tourist attraction but all money to do this comes from taxes. Our current leaders would never allow it. I toured a coal mine museum in WV. Taking our family to the beach we detoured to the mountains and spent money in those communities. Their monetary investment to turn the mine into a museum easily paid them back and continues to do so.
It’s a shame i bet you could restore that place easy
Federal government needs their cut, they need to mind their own business.
Never report a mine. Keep them going.
In Illinois we had the coal mines, (our coal was poor) and then going eastwards the quality of the coal got worst, that in WV became bad. Now the best coal comes from Wyoming.
What about PA coal?
I lived in Wyoming. Now I live in Ohio. Ohio is ok, but I wish was back in Wyoming. FOREVER WEST
Do you just make this sh*t up? West Virginia coal is metallurgical grade-- the highest quality coal there is. Wyoming coal is high-sulphur, low-quality coal, suitable only for burning in power plants, and with the deregulation of the railroad it came into high demand because it was cost-effective to haul from the west.....much cheaper than high-quality West Virginia coal which is expensive to mine (sub-surface). West Virginia coal is most suited for making steel. With the steel industry tanking, WV coal-demand fell.
Edited to add: I am an unemployed WV coal miner, put out of business because of railroad de-regulation which increased demand for low-quality Wyoming coal.
This makes me sick. I know that they'll just sale it to a wealthy company in a few years. Saod company will donate heavily to someone's family foundation and they'll launder that money through a shell company in Delaware.
Here's an idea: why don't you do a little research on Google to find out what happened to the property, instead of doing all your idiotic prophesizing? You'll quickly find out that you're very wrong!
Its sad. Should fix it or leave it the hell alone. I agree in a few years some fat cat ass kisser will be building million dollar homes on stolen land
I like odnr. They always treated us hunters and fishers perfect. What happend fellas?
That's a hard dam living
1st thing that caught my eye was the "acid mine drainage".
Those ponds contained arsenic, mercury, lead, etc. and added to the good 'ol fishing hole flavor for the back woods sportsmen. MAGA.
@@gkess7106 Here in Xenia Ohio I fished the National Scenic River, "THE LITTLE MIAMI" in past years. The river was said to have high levels of E-coli in it. If you cooked the fish just right, it still tasted like shit. America has many real environmental problems without adding the over exaggerated SEA LEVEL RISE.
Great story alot of theas storys die with the men .men like this is y amarica was as good as it once was
Lets just showcase that we tried to seal this shaft with unopened bags of quick mix concrete. 14:20 Who the hell got paid for that job...they made a killing haha
At least they shot the government the bird for decades. They lived their lives, on their own terms.
I hate how they referbish the land i think old mines should b ficed up like musems were you can take trips under grpund i love old abandond mines with equipment just left behind same as wen they fill are quarrys in up in newengland i love old granit quarrys we have some realy neat ones wheree the mew shut down on a friday and just never went back and its now a small deep lake
You have quite a grasp of the English language.
You need a tax to do that. It takes money, but taxes are bad.
Yet another piece of Ohio history erased from memory.
I grew up just up 77 from there in canton ohio and i remember these old timers from my youth.i really miss those type of americans and its impossible to tell the young how peoples values have changed and what they call american now is anything but american.
It was family vaules and Godly vaules from a fear of God and going to church.
If I had a mine on my property no way I would tell anyone especially the government. All you will do is mess things up. Just like you did for these 2 men. Trying to shut them down. This is America land of the free and home of the ill kick your ass. Leave people alone
What a shame those guys bust their ass for 50 years to have your land taken by the government they always have their hands who are doesn't belong
Fucking government bureaucrats telling us what's best.
Screw the DNR.
In every coal and energy producing state. They are bureaucratic assholes.
They spent their whole lives fighting off the government. Sounds like land grabbing to me.
Maybe they need an oyster farm to clean the pollution in the water.
There ain't nothing a good carpenter can't do .
Great video until the state worker came and ruined the rest of the video.
All of the mines are gone!!