Intro is a TROLL on the Typical UA-camr over Advertising in the beginning of the video for 5minutes in a 10min video! Hope you all Enjoy! It's supposed to annoy! -Falling
Intro was absolutely Hilarious FT...brilliant. it made me LOL...Very loud. I got the humour immediately. Loving the satire keep it up👌 Of course...stunning watch too. Surprised the green is more muted than the press pics but definitely seems to work better in British Racing Tone. I think it will look awesome on that green rubber strap too. Super review
I picked this up last week and the green is stunning. Took some photos of it under the sunlight. I'm also surprised how well it wears on my wrist (6.3 inch)
Congrats. Absolutely love mine. Picked up 2 days ago. Tried on a couple aquis and hydroconquest but remember I had those and sold em just not my cup of tea. This seiko was aligned perfectly and just shines. So happy I bought it. 1 of the only watches I ever bought at full msrp and couldn't be happier.
I keep coming back to watch this video! Must be 10 times or more now lol So now I’m sitting here with the 207 on my wrist🤣 It sure is an absolute stunner. Thank you!!!-)
Always love your videos. I watched this last year and pulled the trigger on the SBDC133. Not disappointed! A few weeks ago, I found an SLA047 for what I thought was a ridiculously low price. So.... Have to say I love having the set! Great review!
Great video buddy, I got a SPB187 3 days ago and I just don’t wanna take it off, it’s everything I hoped for and yes the bezel alignment is off just enough to make it look like a genuine Seiko! I wouldn’t have it any other way !
What a great looking watch. I think whatever dial you put on that case it will still look great. I'm enjoying my SPB187, I think it still looks better tho. (I love blue) Great video once again FT! KEEP EM COMING BRO!
Nice. Good, subtle green, unlike Rolex! I think the MM200 is a welcome addition to the range. Great for everyday wear. I know a lot don't, but I actually prefer 4.30 dates. I prefer to keep the symmetry of the quarter markers, especially at night. But then you need a colour matched date wheel... not great for special editions.
Another beautiful watch from Seiko, but I'm really getting tired of the unlimited "limited editions". These are great watches with great colourways, why not just make these "special editions" without limiting the quantity so that everyone who wants one can actually buy them. It's becoming a real turnoff for me with Seiko.
Fair enough! Its a business model. give some ppl something a little bit unique then make a new color next year and repeat. It helps combat discounts at AD's which seiko is trying to stop but seems like an impossible task.
I believe that they are still numbering their limited editions, you just need to know to how many these watches are limited to and in this case 6000 and then check below the limited sign on the back it starts with 0Nxxxx, N should stand for number and the following four digits are your limited number. For instance - 0N3040 which should be 3040 out of 6000. For their top tier prospex wacthes they still have the xxxx/ xxxx way of showing which is your number from the limited edition, however, for the more affordable ones now I think that it will be be shown like this - > 0NXXXX : )
Thank you for your efforts and time spend on this video and all your other video I noticed some white dots/ spots on the dial in different like near seiko printed logo, near 4 o’clock position and other places on dial while taking micro shots for the dial. Last month I purchased a blue limited willard and i do have the same white dots/ spots on the dial of course different locations Are these from dust, sunburst finish defects, or normal seiko sunburst finishing (disappointing)? The problem when you see something, you always see it and my eyes keep looking at these dots even before seeing the time :))
From working on these watches a lot it is mostly dust on the dial, sometimes its dial defects. That is why on my seikos I take out the crown, drop the movement and blow off the dust lol.
@@EscapementWatch thanks for the feedback. I would like to do but i am worried about water resistance. I am not a diver :). Maximum using it in the pool. I once did that for one of my watches and tried to tight the case back as much as i can (i dont know if this is correct 😅) and did not exposed it to water. For now i took it up to seiko AD and they raised it up to seiko japan Still waiting reply from japan if they going to receive it or not (watch still under Warranty and the AD doesn't have right equipment for pressure testing)
It's strange to have a date without a date frame. Another thing: I wonder why seiko has to put a gold hand with a green dial. Green dials are also great with silver hands.
You have the same size wrist as me. What wears best between this and the Willard/62 MAS remakes? I had a spb149 and that wore pretty nicely but I did get a little bored of it.
Absolutely Lovin' that Seiko Watch Also love that subtle green, i have a question tho, is the watch heavy on the wrist?? More Power to Your Channell Sir 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sized up for me it's around 170 g it's going to be all relative I usually like to be at 150 or less but I don't notice the difference so it feels pretty good on wrist.
if you can only keep one, which will you keep, spb143 vs spb207 ? i am lucky to buy the spb207 this week, and intend to sell the spb143, but both are just stunning. but spb207 stood out abit more for me aesthetically, spb143 is a subtle kind of beauty. what you guys choose?
@@EscapementWatch indeed but my grandfather’s 42years old Seiko 5 is scratched a lot, thus i would prefer the crystal and bezels to be scratch resistant. Deep scratch on the bezel will be too noticeble for such a beautiful watch. Btw The other Seiko 140th edition watches have ceramic bezel and i am surprised that this one not ( may be to lower the price )
Why do you prefer the sla023 over the SLA047 green version? Are there any design/aesthetic differences or you prefer the blue color? And there is also the SLA039 blue/grey version.
I love blue first of all and I'm not sure I like the new ISO rating Lume pip at 3 o clock for the MM300. It cuts into the chapter ring. Blue grey is impossible to get I believe they only made 300 units.
@@EscapementWatch The blue grey is still available at some dealers but it is very expensive at around $7k. Not sure why. Perhaps you can do a video on all the different MM that would be great.
I love it has 20mm lugs!! Yes seiko!! I do wish the green wasn’t so black. I want this but I just got my Pepsi mini turtle padi edition!! So it’s too damn soon😳😢😩 maybe I’ll just get the green mini turtle instead for half the price??
I just like the humor :) You got a new subscriber! A SEIKO, havent see the vid, already stressed about the pip alignement and the 6R beat error or the superior?? 4R :P
Nice review my friend. I'm toying with the idea of buying one of these...though what slightly puts me off is the higher price in the UK (Generally £1250). Question you might be able to answer I wonder? (Or anyone else!) What essentially is the difference between the SBDC133 and the SPB207? (Subscribed!)
could be picking up my voice. But it could be some jewels in the movement not 100% clean and its like NOISE in an otherwise smooth operation of the movement.
I need your help! I have a sbdx 017 and the new sla047 ... but I think I need to add another seiko !! my question, seiko spb213 or spb 207 ... thanks for your help!
Hello. I’m new to the watch market. Is this a desirable watch to keep? My Dad recently retired and he is looking for a good watch to celebrate his milestone. Budget $1500-2000
@@EscapementWatch i've finally ordered the spb207j1. I have a question. How do you know that the bezel is made coated with black titanium carbon? Thanks!
Man that’s sexy. So where are you between this one and the Steelmaster!!! Or whats your fav MM200? I cant decide between them. Love thr mm300. Just the price. Love ur reviews man. They are legit the best.
I'd go 047 its limited to 3000 units. and is the 140th year anniversary special. so it means a bit more. and the green dial looks black most of the time.
I just asked my friend at seiko and he said no way. then when ppl do service if they need a new dial they can never get back their old number in the future.
love you man and tnx alot for best review channel in the world you beat urban gentry time teller watch box and other watch channels you are in heavenknow why???? im from iran because of mr trump sanctions our national currency loses value very very bad so even an entry level seiko cost millions and already impossible to buy ...for a skx i must spend half my annual salary!!!and im not poor.im a surgen!!!!hope new president of USA try to save us. thank you very much and wish you the best
@@EscapementWatchit's a shame actually, because overall, I find the mm200 one of the best looking diver's overall. I know that they are complying with the new ISO standards but they could have done it better. The watch itself looks beautiful and for me, it would be absolutely perfect with Willard's dial. Tnx for the nice review as always, keep up the good work, cheers!
At least it starts out at +_ 1s/day (ish)....maybe you got lucky..... Seiko continues to send out watches with horrible accuracy.....within spec...sure...but 16s/day. No thanks. How much does it cost to send a Seiko out for regulation?
Intro is a TROLL on the Typical UA-camr over Advertising in the beginning of the video for 5minutes in a 10min video! Hope you all Enjoy! It's supposed to annoy! -Falling
Intro was absolutely Hilarious FT...brilliant. it made me LOL...Very loud. I got the humour immediately. Loving the satire keep it up👌 Of course...stunning watch too. Surprised the green is more muted than the press pics but definitely seems to work better in British Racing Tone. I think it will look awesome on that green rubber strap too. Super review
Sometimes I like to inject a little humor into our insane hobby/obsession.
@@EscapementWatch tastefully and hilariously done!!! 🤣🤣
What size is your wrist "Patatoes" !
I bought the SLA047 in June but it is a bit top heavy for me, so yesterday I bought the SPB 207 and I have to say it is Perfection! Great review sir!
I picked this up last week and the green is stunning. Took some photos of it under the sunlight. I'm also surprised how well it wears on my wrist (6.3 inch)
Congrats. Absolutely love mine. Picked up 2 days ago. Tried on a couple aquis and hydroconquest but remember I had those and sold em just not my cup of tea. This seiko was aligned perfectly and just shines. So happy I bought it. 1 of the only watches I ever bought at full msrp and couldn't be happier.
I keep coming back to watch this video! Must be 10 times or more now lol
So now I’m sitting here with the 207 on my wrist🤣 It sure is an absolute stunner.
Thank you!!!-)
Grats! And it's a watch that hugs the wrist like no other!
same here hahahha
Got mine yesterday.
Thanks for all your help!!!!
Always love your videos. I watched this last year and pulled the trigger on the SBDC133. Not disappointed! A few weeks ago, I found an SLA047 for what I thought was a ridiculously low price. So.... Have to say I love having the set! Great review!
What did you end up paying?
Great video buddy, I got a SPB187 3 days ago and I just don’t wanna take it off, it’s everything I hoped for and yes the bezel alignment is off just enough to make it look like a genuine Seiko! I wouldn’t have it any other way !
Right on
My favourite Green, the British Racing Green!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good description of the green.
2021-10-01 finally came to Taiwan! The praise continues! The price-performance ratio, the CP value is really great!
Excellent 👌
This green looks much more beautiful on video than I thought from the initial press photos of this watch.
What a great looking watch. I think whatever dial you put on that case it will still look great. I'm enjoying my SPB187, I think it still looks better tho. (I love blue) Great video once again FT! KEEP EM COMING BRO!
Nice. Good, subtle green, unlike Rolex! I think the MM200 is a welcome addition to the range. Great for everyday wear. I know a lot don't, but I actually prefer 4.30 dates. I prefer to keep the symmetry of the quarter markers, especially at night. But then you need a colour matched date wheel... not great for special editions.
Omg, one of the most beauty watch I have ever seen. I'm sure I will buy this next week. Thank you.
Good choice!
Another beautiful watch from Seiko, but I'm really getting tired of the unlimited "limited editions". These are great watches with great colourways, why not just make these "special editions" without limiting the quantity so that everyone who wants one can actually buy them. It's becoming a real turnoff for me with Seiko.
Fair enough! Its a business model. give some ppl something a little bit unique then make a new color next year and repeat. It helps combat discounts at AD's which seiko is trying to stop but seems like an impossible task.
This watch is really handsome, I love the looks. Its a shame is LE
6000 is hardly an LE. Think if it more like a limited production run.
A fine looking watch (and I don’t even like green)
Oh man I love the look of it!! That case shape is 🔥🔥 and I also love the hands!!
I believe that they are still numbering their limited editions, you just need to know to how many these watches are limited to and in this case 6000 and then check below the limited sign on the back it starts with 0Nxxxx, N should stand for number and the following four digits are your limited number. For instance - 0N3040 which should be 3040 out of 6000. For their top tier prospex wacthes they still have the xxxx/ xxxx way of showing which is your number from the limited edition, however, for the more affordable ones now I think that it will be be shown like this - > 0NXXXX : )
Thank you for your efforts and time spend on this video and all your other video
I noticed some white dots/ spots on the dial in different like near seiko printed logo, near 4 o’clock position and other places on dial while taking micro shots for the dial.
Last month I purchased a blue limited willard and i do have the same white dots/ spots on the dial of course different locations
Are these from dust, sunburst finish defects, or normal seiko sunburst finishing (disappointing)?
The problem when you see something, you always see it and my eyes keep looking at these dots even before seeing the time :))
From working on these watches a lot it is mostly dust on the dial, sometimes its dial defects. That is why on my seikos I take out the crown, drop the movement and blow off the dust lol.
@@EscapementWatch thanks for the feedback.
I would like to do but i am worried about water resistance.
I am not a diver :). Maximum using it in the pool.
I once did that for one of my watches and tried to tight the case back as much as i can (i dont know if this is correct 😅) and did not exposed it to water.
For now i took it up to seiko AD and they raised it up to seiko japan
Still waiting reply from japan if they going to receive it or not (watch still under Warranty and the AD doesn't have right equipment for pressure testing)
Oh man the MM300 is 🔥🔥🔥
Do you think the rubber strap would fit the Spb105?
Thanks I bought it and received it today. Very excited. It's stunning! My bezel is off though 🤣🤣
Congrats! ah that sucks well. it should be stiff for half click to align it. it wont move.
Which one look better between SPB207 and SPB187?
I really want to see the review of the sla mm300 version and its comparison to this one
It's strange to have a date without a date frame.
Another thing: I wonder why seiko has to put a gold hand with a green dial. Green dials are also great with silver hands.
In my opinion a gold hand looks much better on green dial than silver and contrasts with the other hands
If you had to pick between this watch or the seiko spb213j, which would you choose?
I'm trending towards smaller watches. 37-40mm now a days so its easy pick for me 213. In fact I just bought the 213! lol
Would the bezel of the SLA055 fit on this watch? Got this model recently but prefer a bigger bezel
Seiko is the best
I bought this version and the bracelet is litle bit annoying looks quality degrade is it same as you reviewed?
You have the same size wrist as me. What wears best between this and the Willard/62 MAS remakes? I had a spb149 and that wore pretty nicely but I did get a little bored of it.
willard wears best on my wrist. check out the green tuna video I have a far away wrist shot of the blue willard on that video
The color of money 💰, hopefully itll bring Good Luck after acquiring it. Cant decide on this or the MM300 SLA047 😩
Tough choice! If you have a slightly larger wrist I would say get the SLA.
@@EscapementWatch 6.75 in. What do u think?
Sub👍
Had a slightly lower budget.. This watch is gonna make me broke 😭😅
I have one with the blue dial... I LOVE IT :-) I have a Speedy, IWC and Zenith, but I wear the Seiko all the time :)
Very nice!
Absolutely Lovin' that Seiko Watch Also love that subtle green,
i have a question tho,
is the watch heavy on the wrist??
More Power to Your Channell Sir
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sized up for me it's around 170 g it's going to be all relative I usually like to be at 150 or less but I don't notice the difference so it feels pretty good on wrist.
@@EscapementWatch
i see,
Thank You for the info
Sir
if you can only keep one, which will you keep, spb143 vs spb207 ? i am lucky to buy the spb207 this week, and intend to sell the spb143, but both are just stunning. but spb207 stood out abit more for me aesthetically, spb143 is a subtle kind of beauty.
what you guys choose?
I'd pick the 207 in this scenario.
Could you advise if this beautiful bezel is scratch resistant?
its strong but not scratch resistant. not ceramic.
so over the years it will look beat up and scratched! a good thing! nice patina on a watch makes it glorious in 20-50 years.
@@EscapementWatch indeed but my grandfather’s 42years old Seiko 5 is scratched a lot, thus i would prefer the crystal and bezels to be scratch resistant. Deep scratch on the bezel will be too noticeble for such a beautiful watch. Btw The other Seiko 140th edition watches have ceramic bezel and i am surprised that this one not ( may be to lower the price )
Yes the mm300 is ceramic and higher grade movement. much higher. but its priced higher.
Hoped you would show it on the green rubber strap.
What do you think about this versus the SPB143?
Its a coin toss! I'm partial to this green and color vs the grey 143.
The marker at 3 is NOT GOOD. this will make it very difficult to do day / date dials
It’s required for the new iso standard
Thanks for the video...just ordered mine yesterday.
Glad I could help
Just smashed that like button and subscribed brother. You remind me of Michael from Vsauce. Lol
Why do you prefer the sla023 over the SLA047 green version? Are there any design/aesthetic differences or you prefer the blue color? And there is also the SLA039 blue/grey version.
I love blue first of all and I'm not sure I like the new ISO rating Lume pip at 3 o clock for the MM300. It cuts into the chapter ring. Blue grey is impossible to get I believe they only made 300 units.
@@EscapementWatch The blue grey is still available at some dealers but it is very expensive at around $7k. Not sure why. Perhaps you can do a video on all the different MM that would be great.
7k oh sounds like the AD's are pre-marking them up. Doesn't sound like the right price. they should be 3200USD around there!
@@EscapementWatch I am referring to the SLA039 55th aniv edition which is range from $6k to $8k inc taxes
STUNNING.
Would you take this over spb183 aka blue willard?
No. I love the blue Willard
I love it has 20mm lugs!! Yes seiko!! I do wish the green wasn’t so black. I want this but I just got my Pepsi mini turtle padi edition!! So it’s too damn soon😳😢😩 maybe I’ll just get the green mini turtle instead for half the price??
Stunning watch!! Great video!
Thanks for watching
I just like the humor :) You got a new subscriber!
A SEIKO, havent see the vid, already stressed about the pip alignement and the 6R beat error or the superior?? 4R :P
Thanks for the sub!
THEY NEED TO MAKE A WHITE DIAL OR A SAND DIAL OTHER THAN THE SAME OLD BLACK, BLUE AND GREEN DIAL LIMITED EDITION...
Sbdc 187 or blue and black oris aquis? Tricky dilemma made even harder because our ad's are not open at the moment. 😤
I love the oris Aquis 400 if you have pull it off wrist size wise I'd pick that over the MM200.
The Oris has such an uninspired case design..
Something even my 12 year old son noticed.
Wish I could buy just the Rubber Strap. Would match my Turtle LE Sea Grapes perfectly...
That would be a great combo!
SAVAGE intro, no mercy... I was really feeling with you 12:00-12:30
yes during the whole review i was thinking about the mm300! hahahahaa
No lume shots? :-( Big fan of your channel though. Keep up the great work!
I believe there is one B-roll lume shot in there somewhere. trying to find ways to shorten the videos to make them more watchable!
Nice review my friend. I'm toying with the idea of buying one of these...though what slightly puts me off is the higher price in the UK (Generally £1250). Question you might be able to answer I wonder? (Or anyone else!) What essentially is the difference between the SBDC133 and the SPB207? (Subscribed!)
Just regional reference code one North America, other Japanese market.
@@EscapementWatch Thank you!
no problem!
🤣😂😂😂 Your intro. Love it!
Glad you liked it!!
What do the snowflakes mean in your timegrapher? Nice video btw
could be picking up my voice. But it could be some jewels in the movement not 100% clean and its like NOISE in an otherwise smooth operation of the movement.
@@EscapementWatch awesome...good to know
I need your help! I have a sbdx 017 and the new sla047 ... but I think I need to add another seiko !! my question, seiko spb213 or spb 207 ... thanks for your help!
213!
@@EscapementWatch thanks!
What's your glasses
May I know what material is used for it bezel? Cause on its website doesn't say anything about what bezel is it.🌚🌚
Steel coated with titanium black carbon
From Seiko..
Stainless steel with black ion finish and super hard coated
Beautiful as usual but ngl no number is a bummer
What a beauty
I badly need one
How’s it 42mm and u measure it at 40 🤔
Case slightly wider than bezel.
So, is this bezel different to the 'non limited' MMR models?
same.
@@EscapementWatch thank you!
If it is limited edition, a number should be there to confirm the pieces.
Like the marker on three 👍
When are u doing the mm300?
in the next day or two hopefully
@@EscapementWatch im either grabbing the mm200 or 300. Waiting on your review!!!!
Hello. I’m new to the watch market. Is this a desirable watch to keep? My Dad recently retired and he is looking for a good watch to celebrate his milestone. Budget $1500-2000
Yes it is if he's a Seiko fan he'll love it.
Is the bezzel ceramic?
Stainless Steel. Coated with Titanium carbon. words.
world premier !!!
Well, i sold my spb149j1 and now i dont know wich one should i buy. Spb187 or Spb207... oh man...🤯
No wrong answer really! both are great watches.
@@EscapementWatch i've finally ordered the spb207j1.
I have a question. How do you know that the bezel is made coated with black titanium carbon? Thanks!
Haven’t seen them for sale anywhere. :-(
too new! I think kavar has a couple left. almost sold out. next shipment in 6 months usually
How long does the lume last?
At least 6 hours from my exp
Man that’s sexy. So where are you between this one and the Steelmaster!!! Or whats your fav MM200? I cant decide between them. Love thr mm300. Just the price. Love ur reviews man. They are legit the best.
my steel master lost its steel bezel. lol. it has a 187 or 207 bezel on it now. full black SLA021 HOMAGE.
@@EscapementWatch well isnt that interesting! Wel what about SLA021 vs SLA047J1. Im guessing you go all black and for the 021
I'd go 047 its limited to 3000 units. and is the 140th year anniversary special. so it means a bit more. and the green dial looks black most of the time.
and it has the 207 caseback. 1 of 1 limited edition mm200 lol
This is a gorgeous watch and yours is 3104/6000. Similar to the SBDC113, Seiko will stop doing xxxx/xxxx structure on affordable limited editions.
Where do you see the number
@@EscapementWatch 6:32 of your video. 0N3104, it means 2020, November, 3104th.
oh my god its so simple. i never even thought about the serial. yes! a serial for a limited edition would be its number! haha thanks.
greatness
Awesome 👍👍👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Would love to have a discount code for this one!
email me from the description
Damn that's a handsome watch
I think this guy works for Seiko.
HA!
Why reduced?
Because it's a smaller marinemaster just a nickname
Limited edition spb185 / spb187
Just got 1 :-)
Nice review, nice watch
Thanks for the view
That's a lovely watch, not sure about the alignment though, it's way off. Alignment is the kicker for me. Just saying. Thanks for posting.
its the angle of camera and crystal parallax error. this one aligns
really nice
So nice
i own a blue dial, frankly I'm not impressed by this green dial
The limited number in the dial 4:04. This is 50.
Really!!!! Cool. I'll look at other ones to see if the number changes
@@EscapementWatch Please give me the result @@
@@EscapementWatch I see a render picture in seiko sites and the number is still 50. So maybe I was wrong.
I just asked my friend at seiko and he said no way. then when ppl do service if they need a new dial they can never get back their old number in the future.
Your Limited Number is 3104 is on the backside.
I built a better version for 166.00 using ebay and amazon. Took two months to get all the parts from china, Russia and others
God i wish they made this in 40mm
It wears exactly like a Rolex submariner wears FYI
It wears like a 40mm. I own the SPB149, and the SBDC133 looks and wears like my 62MAS reissue.
You could do a montage of all your intros and get 100000 views ( by the way ,don’t we all just give a thumbs up before you even start talking ? )
ahahah thanks bro!
Drrroooolllll 😮
love you man and tnx alot for best review channel in the world you beat urban gentry time teller watch box and other watch channels you are in heavenknow why???? im from iran because of mr trump sanctions our national currency loses value very very bad so even an entry level seiko cost millions and already impossible to buy ...for a skx i must spend half my annual salary!!!and im not poor.im a surgen!!!!hope new president of USA try to save us.
thank you very much and wish you the best
Thanks for watching and the kind words! Hopefully the situation gets better!
drilled lugged skx?! ;-0
What is your email? I'd like to get the discount code for this watch. Thank you
It's a standard Seiko watch. There's nothing wrong with standard Seiko watches just don't see anything special here.
Fair enough. We all like different things! move on.
That lume plot at 3 looks forced.hard pass.
it was forced by ISO!
That marker on 3 o'clock is hideous.
fair enough!
@@EscapementWatchit's a shame actually, because overall, I find the mm200 one of the best looking diver's overall. I know that they are complying with the new ISO standards but they could have done it better. The watch itself looks beautiful and for me, it would be absolutely perfect with Willard's dial. Tnx for the nice review as always, keep up the good work, cheers!
At least it starts out at +_ 1s/day (ish)....maybe you got lucky..... Seiko continues to send out watches with horrible accuracy.....within spec...sure...but 16s/day. No thanks. How much does it cost to send a Seiko out for regulation?
Any watchmaker can regulate it in a couple minutes make sure the watch has been broken in first check out my video on regulation
wow Sam Smith reviewing watches now?
lol
It's not a Marinemaster with that silly Prospex logo.
Limited Edition? 6000? 😂😂😂
The Movement is cheap.
It's you the cheap ! It's a good !