The Fans of that private server , aka the new owners, not so private anymore , should mod & hire a few dev , too add a few new Hero/Villain Powers too the game.. there way too much potential with a MMORPG based of western comic boom heroes. I remember use too play this game into WoW came out in 2004
This is all due to the fan base, as well as the numerous skilled programmers involved, who absolutely REFUSED to give up, give in and let a franchise that STILL exceeds anything currently available to date perish. We held the torch, we maintained our vigil and stood our ground against the seemingly insurmountable task of keeping Paragon City alive. We are heroes (and villains) - this is what we do. For Stan Lee, for Superhero lovers all over - EXCELSIOR! Thank you, NCSoft!
What you're talking about in terms of future development - new costumes and costume pieces and options, new content, new Archetypes, new tweaks to play balance. All of that has already been happening and will continue. This just gives official sanction to it all. Which is excellent. There are a few people out there who have the skill sets to help develop these things that would not want to work on a "pirate" server. Well now they can do so openly. This can only help. As for whether NC Soft can shut it down and whether or not the source code has been scrubbed. I have to laugh. See - it might be OFFICIALLY scrubbed. And Homecoming could - in theory - be shutdown. But it's highly unlikely. Trust me - I have contacts with people in that "secret server" group that was allowed to play the game in private for 6 years while they were hiding. That "secret server" still exists. It's an "open secret" but they have contingencies in place to go back fully underground and keep playing and keep City of Heroes alive if NC Soft ever told Homecoming to shut down. They think it's unlikely they'll need to at this point. But the plans could be dusted off at a moments notice and they could lock down and move out of harms way in less than a week with everything they've built kept intact. As for that server source code - it has already been seeded to so many private servers and is already out in the wild in so many data bolt-holes that getting rid of it would be a cost prohibitive measure and these days would be nigh impossible. And it is a big reason WHY NCSoft is "playing nice". They do NOT want to play "whack-a-mole" with City of Heroes private servers and source code bolt-holes forever - and lose and look foolish in the end. This entire deal is as much face-saving for them as it is an opportunity for us. City of Heroes is impossible to kill. Like any good superhero - we ALWAYS come back.
Just discovered this game a few days ago, funny enough from another game that's been closed down for years, SWG, on their emulator. lol I knew about CoH back then, but it had already closed down, so off to DCO I went. Two ways of looking at this license, one, it's a huge red flag and what could happen. Last I checked, there's well over 2k across five servers in player population, at $15 a pop, that's a decent chunk of change per month. Keep in mind, NCSoft still has their hands involved with GW2, still one of the biggest MMO's out there. On the flip side. Old School Runescape has proven that the older games can work and the developers are willing to work with their players. Here's hoping nothing happens, only time will tell. Good video.
I'm really excited to hear this. I'm someone who is new to the City of Heroes gaming community and as soon as I played the game 2 years ago, I fell in love with it! Now that NCSoft is making it official, I wonder if this could mean the game could get even bigger and maybe even an graphics engine update? Man i am so excited!
That's exactly what's on my mind! A graphic's update would be amazing, even though I personally like the old school look of it! Only time will tell fingers crossed!
This was my first mmorpg ever introduced too , this mmorpg definitely as 1 of the best "Create a Player" in gaming.. from what I remember people could customize missions aka like a "raid dungeon" .. I remember doing the "DC Vs Marvel" custome run , fun stuff into Doctor Doom 1 Shotted everyone 😅
Homecoming has always been upfront about their negotiations, and it's taken them four years. A lot of people called them liars and accused them of trying to gaslight the other servers to somehow gain dominance, but this shows they have always been honest about it. The actual terms of the agreement are going to be NDA, but looking at the public announcement from a player point of view not much will change. I don't know what the other servers will do, but I doubt if NCSoft are really interested in going after them unless they do something really egregious and cause bad publicity for NCSoft. I'd say they could get their own agreement, but the HC one is probably bespoke and HC specific. It'll probably take them a long time to get recognition if NCSoft is even interested in doing it again. HC has good relations with some servers, not so good with others. I doubt if any of the other servers want to move under the HC umbrella, and I doubt if HC really wants it either. Other servers do good things and having different options is always welcome.
I'm sorry. I'm still bitter with NCSoft. Over ten years ago, in 2013, I had a huge supergroup, complete with a well stocked base and extra facilities, several level 50+ characters, and many friends that still loved to play City of Heroes / Villains. NCSoft took away all that and didn't care. They refused to negotiate or accomodate with anyone to preserve the game. They shut it down and said "Tough luck, sucks to be you." Finally, someone backwards engineered the game and brought it back to life, a few years ago and NOW NCSoft wants to grant an office license?! WTF?! Seriously. They bring the allure of possible future development and game expansion, but at what price? NCSoft can shut it down AGAIN! You make a deal with the devil and you'll probably get burned. About three or four years ago, I started playing Homecoming and found it delightfully nostalgic and I felt myself wistful for the olden days. Any business with NCSoft still burns me up. I'm glad people are enjoying the game and it's back in my life in some form, but it isn't the same. I don't think I'm ready to trust NCSoft or even be charitable towards them. I guess time will tell. Until then, I'll see you all on the streets of Paragon. Have fun and good luck!
I get your point but it's been over a decade. Those people who made those decisions are probably not even in the company. They also can shut down the game any time so it's not like making a deal with them somehow makes that more possible. In my opinion, this shows that NCSoft wants to bring interest in the City of Heroes IP since the last thing they did with it was some mobile game spin off.
Wow, this is pretty unusual but encouraging move. I think moving away from tab-targeting is pretty difficult task since tab-targeting makes netcode quite a bit easier.. and netcode is very tricky to get right... then there are probably a million other things it'd affect. But I hope homecoming will prosper and continue to develop and grow.
Tbf I started doing more research on both tab targeting and action combat and realized why the game worked so well because of what you're mentioning, verses if it was action combat, there would be so many variables ontop of ping that would cause the gameplay and experience to halter at the expense of "cooler" combat. But it's something I think would be interesting to see.
This is amazing news and everyone should celebrate NCSoft for doing this. They have no reason to do it but to offer something to fans. If they do this right and fans show their support this will show other studios that closed MMO's might be worth giving to fans... Matrix, Star Wars Galaxy, etc..
I like the positive attitude. NC Soft couldve done nothing and left as is. Surely this deal wouldve cost them some money for admin costs/legal fees alone? Id like to think NC Soft were putting their heart on their sleeve for a bit and foregoing the corporate nightmare that is the games industry at present. An industry where 20yrs ago we didn't have half the nonsense that makes it awful today (although most likely a lot of nonsense behind closed doors, I'm not that naive).
Honestly not sure if this is good or bad. From what I understand, NCSoft still can take action against other servers, and Homecoming is being put on a leash. It "might" be good if NCSoft lets Homecoming continue freely... but it might be a way to restrict them, or even take credit for other people's efforts. Time will tell. I'd rather they just sell the IP and let someone remake it with the Unreal Engine or something. A modern take on COH would be amazing.
What leash are you talking about...? You do know that before NCSoft granted an official license ALL the servers were operating ILLEGALLY.. which means NCSoft could of shut down all servers without question.. NOW they're allowing HC to operate LEGALLY.. this is a good thing not a bad thing. City of Titans in development for like 10+ years developed in UE and still doesn't even have a complete character builder.. it might take another few years tbh, but I think this is overall good thing for the community of city of heroes, and for the other servers... I dont agree with any of the servers that allow racism and ddos to people who don't fall in line with their rules, and the fact that there's people trying to defend those servers is crazy to me.
@@NovaIIDBZII ... that's what I mean about time will tell. Right now we don't know the details of this deal or what (if anything) Homecoming is giving up. Maybe I'm biased... I just think that NCSoft is a s**t company, based on their track record. I want this to be a good thing as much as you do, but just don't trust those jokers. If they leave Homecoming alone to do as they will - great.
@stephencooper3583 every single company on the face of the earth is a shit company, but NCSoft is better than any other publishing team because they allowed and gave a legal license to host the game... I still dont think you understand.. Homecoming is the ONLY legal sever. everything else is illegal. what NCSoft did is great for all gamers... hence the 20 year anniversary this year.. the leak City of Heroes 2.. see I don't think people really understand what NCSoft is doing and what the future will hold for CoH..
@@NovaIIDBZII ... I don't get why you think I don't understand. All I'm saying is that it COULD be a good thing, but we don't know how the contract was structured. We have no idea what kind of clauses and fine print they might have put in. Which is why I keep saying let's wait and see before doing any victory laps. You're assuming NCSoft did this out of the goodness of their hearts. I'm saying that may - or may not be the case. That's all. Like I said, I want this to be a good thing too. But I've also seen some bad contracts in my day. I'm hoping for the best.
@@stephencooper3583 So you think that NC Soft will let some rogue pirates make content under an official license with no NC Soft control... Yea that's comical as it is NC Softs Business name on the line!
I saw this news earlier. I tried the Homecoming server, I think last year, I might even still have it installed. It will be good to try it again in a few months and if they can do anything to update it. I personally don't have an issue with tab targeting, I still play several games that use it such as SWTOR which I am playing now but that is also an old game which is 12 yrs old.
I got this game for my birthday when I was a kid, and I don't remember being able to play it. I do not know if my computer couldn't handle it, or if it was a subscription and I could pay? But I really wanted to. So now I might.
Yes, this is extremely important and a meaningful feat not only for CoH, but for all prematurely sunset mmorpgs (like Star Wars Galaxies and Vanguard: Saga of Heroes). So in short: Well done @Homecoming and NCSoft! This is a win for oldschool gamers alike, and I absolutely support the idea of having at least one single official home server for these old(er) mmo games. Liked and subbed for the straight forward and super chill vid!
@@NovaIIDBZII Yes. Homecoming crew are not trustworthy. They don't want to work with other people. They just want everyone in their hands so they can monotize it.
@@NovaIIDBZII Centralisation usually is a bad thing, and a decent alternative encourages competition & something to fall back onto in case of emergency.
I... Do share a lot of your hopes for the future, but I think asking for an action combat update is a bit beyond our reach even if the Homecoming team was funded by NATO and had every developer in the industry backing them.
As for development of the combat - you say that "tab targeting" isn't really part of "todays game types". Well - that's one of the SELLING POINTS of City of Hereos! Many of us love the game EXACTLY for the old-school gameplay! Many City players are no longer in our prime and do not have the "twitch reflexes" needed to be competitive in some more modern games. Heck - DC Universe Online requires an elevated method of play that's akin to a fighting game to be fully mastered and it's considered "old school" itself! Furthermore - City of Heroes is a favorite game of people with DISABILITIES. There are people with missing limbs and/or nerve damage of various types that can still enjoy City of Heroes and feel useful on a team despite their disability precisely because City of Heroes is "old school". In City of Heroes - it's far more about building the right powers ahead of time, and in combat - planning and thinking ahead a couple of seconds, positioning, and firing off the correct powers. The skill requirements are low enough that ANYONE can play - from 8 years to 80 years - and trust me - we do indeed have a few people pushing 80 that are still enjoying this game. I myself am in my late 50s and while I've still got SOME "twitch reflexes" left - enough to play flight sims and the like - it's nice to have a game to play that doesn't demand that I have incredible skill at the level of a fighting game to play. I loved playing Street Fighter and the like back in the day. I'm still a fan of those games. But in no way could I hope to compete at a high level on them. But City of Heroes is TIMELESS. That's why it's so popular!
Chaos United is a SG on the everlasting server on Homecoming and we are very happy to hear the news and thankful to see this happen and yes I am the founder of Chaos United I am Sargus
Speaking personally, I wouldn't ever want to see action combat in City of Heroes, I like the combat the way it is. There's plenty of other more modern action combat MMOs out there that are actually built for it and the spaghetti code of this game is already essentially held together by bits of string and positive thought as it is.
@@Da5kone001what u mean ? isn't this game a "Tab Targeted" MMORPG from what I remember playing back in 2002 , How could that change ? Sounds like that would be a lot of work too revap the gameplay..
Lot of fantastic points in this vid and the comments. This whole situation has many facets and does have a hefty portion residing in a very grey area. It is a move in the right direction though for sure, 2024 couldve been off to a worse start. Happy to be playing this after a lengthy sabbatical.
Is there a website I can go to get the game and I'm so happy game is coming back it feels like I get to relive my glory days and with new content I'm super excited it might be a longshot but I hope they bring this on consoles and another longshot but I hope somebody brings back marvel heroes like it gets liscene too and it comes back to consoles and maybe add more content too it could be a marvel game we could play just to pass the time while we wait on other marvel games and we have another marvel game to play form of entertainment we can also play
Wow amazing that means City of Heroes homecoming can get more updates and enhancing graphics Edit I am also glad Ncsoft decided to get off they lazy ass now
I wanted someone to be the successor to Paragon Studios to continue there mission under a new dev team. I can't see anyone else taking the mantle where Paragon Studio left off.
@@big_john_tw69 Yeah same. For everyone claiming Homecoming has such a great community they sure do turn into assholes when you ask for a little verification.
@@NovaIIDBZII yeah im saving it i sadly got it very late as games lifecycle closed to an end and game never really worked on my win 10 machine tho i really want to try that game badly so yeah i dunno if theres private Server or something that could work, maybe playing it on virtual machine /emulator could help i doubt tho
Normally an NC Soft press release... But that should have happened 5 days ago.... Just makes you think with NC Soft so tight lipped that maybe it isn't true.
@@DemonPrinceofHell Don't leave out cowboy themed heroes or people that want to fly without actually flying. We could really cheat with the mounts and have them cosmetic options for already existing travel types: Super Speed - Motorcycles, cars, horses, jet skates/skateboard... Flight- More diverse jetpacks, gyro crafts, small VTOL vehicles, geo/aquakinesis Teleportation - Quick assemble teleporter, power rangers style teleport, throwable teleport pads
That I'm not sure of, I don't see why not. My only question would be, are you playing on HC, if so then you should be able still play mac (forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/23064-installing-the-new-homecoming-launcher-on-a-mac/) As for the others I'm not sure.
2:59 bud, Tab targetting still exists and thriving. As much as people can enjoy more action base combat. The whole "Hit a Button" and watch it do something is relaxing and able to slightly turn your brain off. Just play a game. Do not need to bounce around and juggle 20 billion things and one misstep. You fail hard and have to start over. The combat system is fine. You may not like it. You can have that opinion. But, the last game that is well over 20 years old tried to do a new combat system. That was RuneScape. And you know what happened? The community revolted. I mean, outright revolted hard. They took a step back. All with Classic Runescape and Runescape 2, with the new combat system. Changing the formula that makes a product work, is never the best course of action. It is like Coke-Cola changing its formula and making New Coke-Cola or Coke-Cola II. I am dating myself, but that choice cost Coke-Cola billions. And I could go on wity examples. Maybe slight improvements would never hurt. But outright ripping out and changing a system that is working. It is a receipt for disaster. One more example I promise: Be like you changing your whole channel from gaming to beauty product and fashion. Do not think it would go over well. Still, you have your opinion. You are allowed to have it. You have a nice day.
i downloaded and played this game...... i figured why not, i loved City of Villains from years ago. it looks and plays like a 20 year old game! the nostalgia lasted an entire 20 minutes. even at the price free, it still cost too much!
This is terrible news, not sure why everyone is celebrating this. All this did was put other private servers in danger. It's like everyone here is applauding being put on a leash.
You clearly don't understand... all the servers including Homecoming were operating ILLEGALLY . meaning at any point in time NCSoft could send a C&D and shut ALL servers down. What they did is allow the game to survive and be active for EVERYONE for free. not only that, City of heroes is the FIRST game in history to have its private server officially licensed by the IP Holder.. This is going to send a Shockwave to other private server games shut down like Everyquest.. starwars galaxies etc.. and for the other servers let's be honest... any server that allows people to be racist, DDOS people, and use derogatory terms isn't something anyone should be defending..
Okay stay calm. It's happening!
I'm so happy, this is an amazing new year gift. Aaaaahhhh
I don't wanna calm down!!
The Fans of that private server , aka the new owners, not so private anymore , should mod & hire a few dev , too add a few new Hero/Villain Powers too the game.. there way too much potential with a MMORPG based of western comic boom heroes. I remember use too play this game into WoW came out in 2004
This is all due to the fan base, as well as the numerous skilled programmers involved, who absolutely REFUSED to give up, give in and let a franchise that STILL exceeds anything currently available to date perish. We held the torch, we maintained our vigil and stood our ground against the seemingly insurmountable task of keeping Paragon City alive. We are heroes (and villains) - this is what we do. For Stan Lee, for Superhero lovers all over - EXCELSIOR! Thank you, NCSoft!
I'm glad it's back. Only found out the other day but instantly jumped back in when I found it was pretty much an official version of the game
I played from Day 1 until the shutdown. This is great news for fans of the game. It probably had the best community i've ever been a part of.
What you're talking about in terms of future development - new costumes and costume pieces and options, new content, new Archetypes, new tweaks to play balance. All of that has already been happening and will continue. This just gives official sanction to it all. Which is excellent. There are a few people out there who have the skill sets to help develop these things that would not want to work on a "pirate" server. Well now they can do so openly. This can only help.
As for whether NC Soft can shut it down and whether or not the source code has been scrubbed. I have to laugh. See - it might be OFFICIALLY scrubbed. And Homecoming could - in theory - be shutdown. But it's highly unlikely.
Trust me - I have contacts with people in that "secret server" group that was allowed to play the game in private for 6 years while they were hiding. That "secret server" still exists. It's an "open secret" but they have contingencies in place to go back fully underground and keep playing and keep City of Heroes alive if NC Soft ever told Homecoming to shut down. They think it's unlikely they'll need to at this point. But the plans could be dusted off at a moments notice and they could lock down and move out of harms way in less than a week with everything they've built kept intact.
As for that server source code - it has already been seeded to so many private servers and is already out in the wild in so many data bolt-holes that getting rid of it would be a cost prohibitive measure and these days would be nigh impossible. And it is a big reason WHY NCSoft is "playing nice". They do NOT want to play "whack-a-mole" with City of Heroes private servers and source code bolt-holes forever - and lose and look foolish in the end.
This entire deal is as much face-saving for them as it is an opportunity for us.
City of Heroes is impossible to kill. Like any good superhero - we ALWAYS come back.
Just discovered this game a few days ago, funny enough from another game that's been closed down for years, SWG, on their emulator. lol I knew about CoH back then, but it had already closed down, so off to DCO I went. Two ways of looking at this license, one, it's a huge red flag and what could happen. Last I checked, there's well over 2k across five servers in player population, at $15 a pop, that's a decent chunk of change per month. Keep in mind, NCSoft still has their hands involved with GW2, still one of the biggest MMO's out there. On the flip side. Old School Runescape has proven that the older games can work and the developers are willing to work with their players.
Here's hoping nothing happens, only time will tell. Good video.
City of Heroes was my first MMO I ever played. And it's still my favorite. It's nice to see some hope to the future of the game
I'm really excited to hear this. I'm someone who is new to the City of Heroes gaming community and as soon as I played the game 2 years ago, I fell in love with it! Now that NCSoft is making it official, I wonder if this could mean the game could get even bigger and maybe even an graphics engine update? Man i am so excited!
That's exactly what's on my mind! A graphic's update would be amazing, even though I personally like the old school look of it! Only time will tell fingers crossed!
This was my first mmorpg ever introduced too , this mmorpg definitely as 1 of the best "Create a Player" in gaming.. from what I remember people could customize missions aka like a "raid dungeon" .. I remember doing the "DC Vs Marvel" custome run , fun stuff into Doctor Doom 1 Shotted everyone 😅
Homecoming has always been upfront about their negotiations, and it's taken them four years. A lot of people called them liars and accused them of trying to gaslight the other servers to somehow gain dominance, but this shows they have always been honest about it. The actual terms of the agreement are going to be NDA, but looking at the public announcement from a player point of view not much will change.
I don't know what the other servers will do, but I doubt if NCSoft are really interested in going after them unless they do something really egregious and cause bad publicity for NCSoft. I'd say they could get their own agreement, but the HC one is probably bespoke and HC specific. It'll probably take them a long time to get recognition if NCSoft is even interested in doing it again. HC has good relations with some servers, not so good with others. I doubt if any of the other servers want to move under the HC umbrella, and I doubt if HC really wants it either. Other servers do good things and having different options is always welcome.
Awesome. I was in CoH Beta. Still have the install CD.
I'm sorry. I'm still bitter with NCSoft. Over ten years ago, in 2013, I had a huge supergroup, complete with a well stocked base and extra facilities, several level 50+ characters, and many friends that still loved to play City of Heroes / Villains. NCSoft took away all that and didn't care. They refused to negotiate or accomodate with anyone to preserve the game. They shut it down and said "Tough luck, sucks to be you."
Finally, someone backwards engineered the game and brought it back to life, a few years ago and NOW NCSoft wants to grant an office license?! WTF?! Seriously. They bring the allure of possible future development and game expansion, but at what price? NCSoft can shut it down AGAIN! You make a deal with the devil and you'll probably get burned.
About three or four years ago, I started playing Homecoming and found it delightfully nostalgic and I felt myself wistful for the olden days. Any business with NCSoft still burns me up. I'm glad people are enjoying the game and it's back in my life in some form, but it isn't the same. I don't think I'm ready to trust NCSoft or even be charitable towards them. I guess time will tell. Until then, I'll see you all on the streets of Paragon. Have fun and good luck!
I get your point but it's been over a decade. Those people who made those decisions are probably not even in the company. They also can shut down the game any time so it's not like making a deal with them somehow makes that more possible. In my opinion, this shows that NCSoft wants to bring interest in the City of Heroes IP since the last thing they did with it was some mobile game spin off.
Wow, this is pretty unusual but encouraging move. I think moving away from tab-targeting is pretty difficult task since tab-targeting makes netcode quite a bit easier.. and netcode is very tricky to get right... then there are probably a million other things it'd affect. But I hope homecoming will prosper and continue to develop and grow.
Tbf I started doing more research on both tab targeting and action combat and realized why the game worked so well because of what you're mentioning, verses if it was action combat, there would be so many variables ontop of ping that would cause the gameplay and experience to halter at the expense of "cooler" combat. But it's something I think would be interesting to see.
Loved this game went back and played last year for about a month and had a blast. I would play this in a heart beat revamped.
Great to hear. My kids and I are all on HC.
This is amazing news and everyone should celebrate NCSoft for doing this. They have no reason to do it but to offer something to fans. If they do this right and fans show their support this will show other studios that closed MMO's might be worth giving to fans... Matrix, Star Wars Galaxy, etc..
I like the positive attitude. NC Soft couldve done nothing and left as is. Surely this deal wouldve cost them some money for admin costs/legal fees alone? Id like to think NC Soft were putting their heart on their sleeve for a bit and foregoing the corporate nightmare that is the games industry at present. An industry where 20yrs ago we didn't have half the nonsense that makes it awful today (although most likely a lot of nonsense behind closed doors, I'm not that naive).
that's so awesome! Wish more devs would support community efforts like this
Couldn't agree more!
Honestly not sure if this is good or bad. From what I understand, NCSoft still can take action against other servers, and Homecoming is being put on a leash. It "might" be good if NCSoft lets Homecoming continue freely... but it might be a way to restrict them, or even take credit for other people's efforts. Time will tell.
I'd rather they just sell the IP and let someone remake it with the Unreal Engine or something. A modern take on COH would be amazing.
What leash are you talking about...? You do know that before NCSoft granted an official license ALL the servers were operating ILLEGALLY.. which means NCSoft could of shut down all servers without question.. NOW they're allowing HC to operate LEGALLY.. this is a good thing not a bad thing.
City of Titans in development for like 10+ years developed in UE and still doesn't even have a complete character builder.. it might take another few years tbh, but I think this is overall good thing for the community of city of heroes, and for the other servers... I dont agree with any of the servers that allow racism and ddos to people who don't fall in line with their rules, and the fact that there's people trying to defend those servers is crazy to me.
@@NovaIIDBZII ... that's what I mean about time will tell. Right now we don't know the details of this deal or what (if anything) Homecoming is giving up. Maybe I'm biased... I just think that NCSoft is a s**t company, based on their track record.
I want this to be a good thing as much as you do, but just don't trust those jokers. If they leave Homecoming alone to do as they will - great.
@stephencooper3583 every single company on the face of the earth is a shit company, but NCSoft is better than any other publishing team because they allowed and gave a legal license to host the game...
I still dont think you understand.. Homecoming is the ONLY legal sever. everything else is illegal. what NCSoft did is great for all gamers... hence the 20 year anniversary this year.. the leak City of Heroes 2.. see I don't think people really understand what NCSoft is doing and what the future will hold for CoH..
@@NovaIIDBZII ... I don't get why you think I don't understand. All I'm saying is that it COULD be a good thing, but we don't know how the contract was structured. We have no idea what kind of clauses and fine print they might have put in. Which is why I keep saying let's wait and see before doing any victory laps.
You're assuming NCSoft did this out of the goodness of their hearts. I'm saying that may - or may not be the case. That's all. Like I said, I want this to be a good thing too. But I've also seen some bad contracts in my day. I'm hoping for the best.
@@stephencooper3583 So you think that NC Soft will let some rogue pirates make content under an official license with no NC Soft control... Yea that's comical as it is NC Softs Business name on the line!
It's about time!
I saw this news earlier. I tried the Homecoming server, I think last year, I might even still have it installed. It will be good to try it again in a few months and if they can do anything to update it. I personally don't have an issue with tab targeting, I still play several games that use it such as SWTOR which I am playing now but that is also an old game which is 12 yrs old.
YES!!! YES!! Does a happy dance!!
Time to find whats left of thw old SG 😅
Tab targeting should at least be kept as an option to be turned on. It's one of the main reasons I don't even own a console. PC only.
this yes of course, or an option for hybrid similar to eso/gw2
Wow - this is amazing news - Gratz Everyone!
Great News!! Happy New Year Heroes And Villains!!
happy new years to all even rogues
I got this game for my birthday when I was a kid, and I don't remember being able to play it. I do not know if my computer couldn't handle it, or if it was a subscription and I could pay? But I really wanted to. So now I might.
Yes, this is extremely important and a meaningful feat not only for CoH, but for all prematurely sunset mmorpgs (like Star Wars Galaxies and Vanguard: Saga of Heroes). So in short: Well done @Homecoming and NCSoft! This is a win for oldschool gamers alike, and I absolutely support the idea of having at least one single official home server for these old(er) mmo games. Liked and subbed for the straight forward and super chill vid!
In2024 this game is still is at the top of my list...Awesome news thx bro..
my pleasure!
On one hand this sounds amazing, just like Project 1999 Everquest. On the other hand i worry NCSoft is going to be C&Ding other servers.
That was a thought of mine too, considering the other 5, is there a reason to be so separated besides a few inconveniences?
@@NovaIIDBZII Yes. Homecoming crew are not trustworthy. They don't want to work with other people. They just want everyone in their hands so they can monotize it.
@@NovaIIDBZII Centralisation usually is a bad thing, and a decent alternative encourages competition & something to fall back onto in case of emergency.
@@NovaIIDBZII Probably because each server has a different vision of what CoH should be and those visions aren't compatible with one another.
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Next, I'd like to see this happen for Wildstar.
I... Do share a lot of your hopes for the future, but I think asking for an action combat update is a bit beyond our reach even if the Homecoming team was funded by NATO and had every developer in the industry backing them.
haha this made me laugh cause we know it's true but damn would it be a cool thing to experience
I refuse action combat. Tab combat for life.
As for development of the combat - you say that "tab targeting" isn't really part of "todays game types". Well - that's one of the SELLING POINTS of City of Hereos! Many of us love the game EXACTLY for the old-school gameplay! Many City players are no longer in our prime and do not have the "twitch reflexes" needed to be competitive in some more modern games. Heck - DC Universe Online requires an elevated method of play that's akin to a fighting game to be fully mastered and it's considered "old school" itself!
Furthermore - City of Heroes is a favorite game of people with DISABILITIES. There are people with missing limbs and/or nerve damage of various types that can still enjoy City of Heroes and feel useful on a team despite their disability precisely because City of Heroes is "old school".
In City of Heroes - it's far more about building the right powers ahead of time, and in combat - planning and thinking ahead a couple of seconds, positioning, and firing off the correct powers. The skill requirements are low enough that ANYONE can play - from 8 years to 80 years - and trust me - we do indeed have a few people pushing 80 that are still enjoying this game. I myself am in my late 50s and while I've still got SOME "twitch reflexes" left - enough to play flight sims and the like - it's nice to have a game to play that doesn't demand that I have incredible skill at the level of a fighting game to play. I loved playing Street Fighter and the like back in the day. I'm still a fan of those games. But in no way could I hope to compete at a high level on them.
But City of Heroes is TIMELESS. That's why it's so popular!
Chaos United is a SG on the everlasting server on Homecoming and we are very happy to hear the news and thankful to see this happen and yes I am the founder of Chaos United I am Sargus
Ooofh. I came back to CoH (Homecoming) because of the tab targeting.
Personally I hope they don't go action/lock targeting.
This is awesome! Great news
Speaking personally, I wouldn't ever want to see action combat in City of Heroes, I like the combat the way it is. There's plenty of other more modern action combat MMOs out there that are actually built for it and the spaghetti code of this game is already essentially held together by bits of string and positive thought as it is.
no shot they change the whole games combat systems
@@Da5kone001what u mean ? isn't this game a "Tab Targeted" MMORPG from what I remember playing back in 2002 , How could that change ? Sounds like that would be a lot of work too revap the gameplay..
Omg it's a dream come true
Lot of fantastic points in this vid and the comments. This whole situation has many facets and does have a hefty portion residing in a very grey area. It is a move in the right direction though for sure, 2024 couldve been off to a worse start. Happy to be playing this after a lengthy sabbatical.
Please keep your action combat mechanics out of my 20 year old MMO.
This is a game from the past, tab targeting is what fits.
What's the effective difference here? They've been running and developing for years now.
this is the greatest thing possible and the year just started
Love u fam!!
You're the best!
"Tab targeting is too old i want action combat"
Then play a different game. I enjoy the tab targeting
Is there a website I can go to get the game and I'm so happy game is coming back it feels like I get to relive my glory days and with new content I'm super excited it might be a longshot but I hope they bring this on consoles and another longshot but I hope somebody brings back marvel heroes like it gets liscene too and it comes back to consoles and maybe add more content too it could be a marvel game we could play just to pass the time while we wait on other marvel games and we have another marvel game to play form of entertainment we can also play
Yes, you can start here: forums.homecomingservers.com/installation-guide/
@@NovaIIDBZII thanks
Wow amazing that means City of Heroes homecoming can get more updates and enhancing graphics
Edit I am also glad Ncsoft decided to get off they lazy ass now
I wanted someone to be the successor to Paragon Studios to continue there mission under a new dev team. I can't see anyone else taking the mantle where Paragon Studio left off.
Do you have any proof from NCsoft aside from Homecoming saying they do?
Sadly I have yet to see it and have gotten nothing bt bad comments for asking someone to produce it..
@@big_john_tw69 Yeah same. For everyone claiming Homecoming has such a great community they sure do turn into assholes when you ask for a little verification.
i own city of villians on cd and never played it unfortuantley...
Seriously? Wow, I could never. Save that disc might be worth something to collectors like myself :)
@@NovaIIDBZII yeah im saving it i sadly got it very late as games lifecycle closed to an end and game never really worked on my win 10 machine tho i really want to try that game badly so yeah i dunno if theres private Server or something that could work, maybe playing it on virtual machine /emulator could help i doubt tho
Wow, anyone know what comes after an official license like this?
Normally an NC Soft press release... But that should have happened 5 days ago.... Just makes you think with NC Soft so tight lipped that maybe it isn't true.
Nice. So more raid content?
we'll see 👀
For starters, new game and graphics engine. Stretchy powers, grappling hook traveling, customizable mounts....
what mounts would you need in a super hero mmo?
@@NovaIIDBZII What if I want my hero or villain to be a biker or reality bending clown on a jet unicycle?
@@solblackguy 😄 fair enough the bikers cool idea, you can be a reality bending clown, there are jetpacks, flying carpets and more but no unicycle
Mounts would be maybe a machine cyborg for the people who want to play as a villain that uses machines
@@DemonPrinceofHell Don't leave out cowboy themed heroes or people that want to fly without actually flying. We could really cheat with the mounts and have them cosmetic options for already existing travel types:
Super Speed - Motorcycles, cars, horses, jet skates/skateboard...
Flight- More diverse jetpacks, gyro crafts, small VTOL vehicles, geo/aquakinesis
Teleportation - Quick assemble teleporter, power rangers style teleport, throwable teleport pads
Their competition DCUO is still heavy in the market
Now how do I download and play?
Now if we can only get Marvel Heroes back !
hmmmm the top down game?
Wow amazing news.
You look like a young will smith which is funny because not even jaden did or does
haha not the first time I've heard that
@@NovaIIDBZII i believe it
I'm kinda happy for this but the timing...
They're doing this when the world has like Superhero Fatigue from Marvel and DC?
I hope this comes to console
lolol whhyyy do you have to keep saying it's 20 years old... it's a painful reminder rofl
Will Mac OS X users still be able to play if some of the unofficial launchers are potentially going away?
That I'm not sure of, I don't see why not. My only question would be, are you playing on HC, if so then you should be able still play mac (forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/23064-installing-the-new-homecoming-launcher-on-a-mac/) As for the others I'm not sure.
2:59 bud, Tab targetting still exists and thriving. As much as people can enjoy more action base combat. The whole "Hit a Button" and watch it do something is relaxing and able to slightly turn your brain off. Just play a game. Do not need to bounce around and juggle 20 billion things and one misstep. You fail hard and have to start over.
The combat system is fine. You may not like it. You can have that opinion. But, the last game that is well over 20 years old tried to do a new combat system. That was RuneScape. And you know what happened? The community revolted. I mean, outright revolted hard. They took a step back. All with Classic Runescape and Runescape 2, with the new combat system.
Changing the formula that makes a product work, is never the best course of action. It is like Coke-Cola changing its formula and making New Coke-Cola or Coke-Cola II. I am dating myself, but that choice cost Coke-Cola billions.
And I could go on wity examples. Maybe slight improvements would never hurt. But outright ripping out and changing a system that is working. It is a receipt for disaster.
One more example I promise: Be like you changing your whole channel from gaming to beauty product and fashion. Do not think it would go over well.
Still, you have your opinion. You are allowed to have it. You have a nice day.
Hi will this game ever come to Xbox and PlayStation 5?
The CoX UI is never going to work on consoles, unless they *completely* revamp it (and the gameplay) to be more like DCUO.
i downloaded and played this game...... i figured why not, i loved City of Villains from years ago.
it looks and plays like a 20 year old game! the nostalgia lasted an entire 20 minutes. even at the price free, it still cost too much!
This is terrible news, not sure why everyone is celebrating this. All this did was put other private servers in danger. It's like everyone here is applauding being put on a leash.
You clearly don't understand... all the servers including Homecoming were operating ILLEGALLY . meaning at any point in time NCSoft could send a C&D and shut ALL servers down.
What they did is allow the game to survive and be active for EVERYONE for free. not only that, City of heroes is the FIRST game in history to have its private server officially licensed by the IP Holder.. This is going to send a Shockwave to other private server games shut down like Everyquest.. starwars galaxies etc..
and for the other servers let's be honest... any server that allows people to be racist, DDOS people, and use derogatory terms isn't something anyone should be defending..