What is the best distance carry for a 20x camera? My church seats about 250 w 2 columns of pews. Is a 20x PTZ adequate? I believe so but just wanted to check.
Our church bought a dual camera bundle with joystick. both cameras are displaying the same iP address and we unable to detect the camera in the device list. how can we resolve this?
You need to set them one at a time similar to the video. If they have the same address either use the fomako app to change them or you need to change your computer up address to something in the range of the camera with the last number different
Good Morning! My name is Lesia from NC, and I am in the beginning stages of researching to help my church with setting up a camera to have live stream through Propresenter software. Im trying to gather as much information before we purchase anything. Our main goal is to be able to live stream our services through a single camera mounted from the back of our small sanctuary with lyrics and verses embedded in the video feed using the Propresenter software. Thus far we have been livestreaming with a personal phone via facebook, so we have much to learn to upgrade to a PTZ. My few questions if you don't mind helping is: Are you familiar with propresenter? What hardware is necessary to complete our setup? Do we need a BlackMagic pro mini to run the camera/livestream with the Propresenter or is the controller w/ joystick that comes with the same concept? As far as audio, we wanted to have a couple mics the we connect to the camera if possible to catch the sound from the speakers at each end of the stage. is that possible with this camera? Also if there is any further information or tips that you may have it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
Hello Ajay I got two of this cameras for the church, everything is hooked through the Ethernet cable and I have access to it through the browser as well, what is the best way to connect it to OBS?
I personally would use a video switcher but for these cameras you can turn on the streaming option and send the video over the network but this would require you to sync the video and audio manually.
@@AJaytheCEO when I’m adding a media source which is the camera in OBS it shows the login window of the camera (asking user name and password) as you know in the browser works , but how on OBS?
Log into the camera and turn on the rtsp and set it to not require login. In obs you would add a media source, uncheck local and put in the rtsp:// ip address/live/av0 or whatever is in the link box under rtsp as the path
In terms of video/picture quality & for low light performance for church streaming which one do you prefer between Fomako 20X vs VKANS 20x PTZ Camera? I’m in the process of getting 3 PTZ cameras, help me out. Thanks in advance!!!
If you only have one of these cameras, do you still need the other device? Will the remote control that comes with the camera turn/ rotate the camera or will it only zoom?
@@AJaytheCEO thAnks so much for getting back. I’m only going to buy one for our church to add to the 3 stationary ones we have. Also, thanks for your content….it was great. I will be following you!
God worked through UA-cam alogarithm to bring this to me, I bought the PTZ camera for our Church, & I'm too busy to concentrate reading the manual. This gives me confidence to start looking at it.
I would go with 20X just because of the price. I eyeball it honestly. At my home church from the booth to the pulpit is like 70ft so I just tested it with a typical camcorder.
I've got the Fomako 20x PTZ NDI. It seems to be working just fine. I was very much surprised when AJay selected DHCP on - this confuses me. If I wanted my router to assign the same IP address to the device, I would have not selected DHCP, but leave it as is (with the already given IP address) or type in an IP address that I like the camera to have on the local network. Also, to set it up I've just pluged the ethernet canble to the switch and the camera started operating.
Just installed in our church! Super excited and loving it. But I've noticed that every 5 to ten minutes it flickers to black for a moment. Have you experienced this?
Hi Ajay! I connected the ptz fomako to my router TP-Link ac1200 but is not working the poe power. What I'm missing? Is a setting in the camera, the cable or is the router? Thanks
We got 2 of these cameras. Loaded them into OBS. One works great with great picture. The other one is blurry in OBS. It looks fine when we're using the web portal. So are we missing something or does a setting need to be changed? Is there something we should check in OBS to help fix this or should we send this camera back?
@@AJaytheCEO Yes. But the volunteer couldn't "hack" the view. So he's decided to learn the atem software instead of OBS. So send him some prayers! 🙂 He's a techie though.
Hi AJay, please could you say a bit more about the remote that it came with? Can you save scene presets? We're using the ATEM Mini Pro and don't have room /budget for a controller. I do have a PC running Bitfocus Companion so a software based controller could also work via this if you've a recommendation?
Seeing that you can connect and control the camera I've ip you should be able to control it that way. I'll try to test it out later this week before the conference... hopefully
@@AJaytheCEO I do have a capture device because I used a Sony camara before but this camara is better. Want to get another one but I need another capture device. Might try a computer hardware this time. Thanks man for the review! God bless!!
Hello I bought the same PTZ camera and I am having pixel problems. How can I fix this? If You Know. I reached out to the manufacture and waiting for their help as well. Thanks.
I've been playing with the rtsp stream and was impressed. It's better than the AVKANS which has some jitter. I also like it's web interface over the AVKANS. I do find the auto focus to be slow. Lowlight isn't too bad, AVKANS is a little better but not by much. Does anyone know what brand the lens and cmos is?
@@AJaytheCEO Thank AJay, sorry to bother you again. I wanted to get the AVKANS but it is not available on amazon at the moment. Would you recommend SMTAV with NDI or should I wait until September to get the avkans?
AJay, I love your reviews. I am really interested in NDI cameras. Our sanctuary seats about 125 people. I'm currently using a Canon HF R800. An HDMI to USB converter to the PC running vMix production software. I also have 2 iPhone 6’s with the NDI app installed for additional cameras, NDI works great, but the optics aren’t great. I’ve checked the PTZ Optics, SMTAV PTZ and the FoMaKo NDI PTZ Camera. In your video of the FoMaKo PTZ you checked to see if it was NDI, and it wasn’t. Have you reviewed any NDI cameras? What is your experience with NDI cameras? I’m subscribed to your channel.
Hey Lowell, thank you so much. I have reviewed a couple of NDI cameras. The PTZOptics one at my church is NDI but we don't use that functionality. I also reviewed the AVKans NDI camera which works great but the places that had these cameras had horrible or nonexistent networking so they could not be used. I think NDI is great if you have the foundation to support it: computers, network, etc
Do you know how much power your POE switch needs for each camera and the controller? I am putting together system with five cameras and the controller and I don't know what switch to buy to power it all.
I am trying to set the Device ID when using the web interface. Under SysAttr it is grayed out and set to “1”. Any help would be greatly appreciated! I am trying to set device ID so that I can control two cameras independently
@@AJaytheCEO Thanks and thank you for all that you do. I have a client that contacted me less than an hour after you posted this video. I have already installed a couple of the AVKANS. Looking forward to the conference!!!
@@BrandonMorganIsAwesome For my video, I ran HDMI into the Atem Mini. I struggled with camera control for a while until I found that I had to change the Visca port in the camera software from it's default value to 5678 In the camera to match the port in the PTZOptics software. Once I did that, it worked great. I know there was another member in the Facebook Group that had the same issue and this solved his problem as well.
Has anyone else had an issue with this camera where the HDMI port won't output anything? The preview through the web interface works fine, so I know the camera itself is okay. I don't have any SDI equipment so I can't test that unfortunately.
@@AJaytheCEO ok i tried to put in yours, but it showed an error, But i did find info on it and it has a "plug and go" feature so i plugged in from laptop to camera and it worked, i appreciate your reply thanks!
Have You installed it into a church in the end? If so, do You have a link for some real-world footage from this camera? I am considering it, but am hesitant since I have only a small idea how the video quality is.
@@AJaytheCEO Thanks You for the reply. Any chance I can tune in on their web stream once it's done? I am really curious what quality these PTZs can achieve. Could You share what church(es) will use these for streaming?
I love this PTZ. Tried for the first time today at church on a tripod. Quality is great.
Outstanding. Do you have a link to the video?
What is the best distance carry for a 20x camera? My church seats about 250 w 2 columns of pews. Is a 20x PTZ adequate? I believe so but just wanted to check.
Have you had any back focus issues with the Fomako, as well as any issues with the camera rebooting itself after a shot Preset is recalled?
the focus yes but that was solved with turning down the intensity of the focus. I have not had an issue with rebooting
Our church bought a dual camera bundle with joystick. both cameras are displaying the same iP address and we unable to detect the camera in the device list. how can we resolve this?
You need to set them one at a time similar to the video. If they have the same address either use the fomako app to change them or you need to change your computer up address to something in the range of the camera with the last number different
Good Morning!
My name is Lesia from NC, and I am in the beginning stages of researching to help my church with setting up a camera to have live stream through Propresenter software. Im trying to gather as much information before we purchase anything. Our main goal is to be able to live stream our services through a single camera mounted from the back of our small sanctuary with lyrics and verses embedded in the video feed using the Propresenter software. Thus far we have been livestreaming with a personal phone via facebook, so we have much to learn to upgrade to a PTZ. My few questions if you don't mind helping is:
Are you familiar with propresenter?
What hardware is necessary to complete our setup?
Do we need a BlackMagic pro mini to run the camera/livestream with the Propresenter or is the controller w/ joystick that comes with the same concept?
As far as audio, we wanted to have a couple mics the we connect to the camera if possible to catch the sound from the speakers at each end of the stage. is that possible with this camera?
Also if there is any further information or tips that you may have it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
I am familiar with propresenter but to answer all of this please email me questions@ajayholmes.com
I just bought this camera and found that the zoom is too slow :( how can I increase the speed of the Zoom? Thanks
In the menu settings you can increase the speed. This can also be done via the joystick connected
Hi set up another Fomako camara everything was ok. but now I can't open it. can you help me. what can I do.?
You mentioned that you were going to install this 2 weeks later. What church was it or can you provide the link to the video? Thanks
What recommended sdi/bnc cable is recommended? Or does it not matter which cable is used? For quality purposes. Or to use overall.
As long as the cable is rated properly 75 ohms, rg6, supports 3g, etc I've not noticed a difference from premade cables or made on site cables
Hello Ajay
I got two of this cameras for the church, everything is hooked through the Ethernet cable and I have access to it through the browser as well, what is the best way to connect it to OBS?
I personally would use a video switcher but for these cameras you can turn on the streaming option and send the video over the network but this would require you to sync the video and audio manually.
@@AJaytheCEO when I’m adding a media source which is the camera in OBS it shows the login window of the camera (asking user name and password) as you know in the browser works , but how on OBS?
Log into the camera and turn on the rtsp and set it to not require login. In obs you would add a media source, uncheck local and put in the rtsp:// ip address/live/av0 or whatever is in the link box under rtsp as the path
@@AJaytheCEO Thank you Very very very much
In terms of video/picture quality & for low light performance for church streaming which one do you prefer between Fomako 20X vs VKANS 20x PTZ Camera? I’m in the process of getting 3 PTZ cameras, help me out.
Thanks in advance!!!
Of course AVKANS, same hardware as PTZoptics, but 1000USD LESS.
If you only have one of these cameras, do you still need the other device? Will the remote control that comes with the camera turn/ rotate the camera or will it only zoom?
The remote will control all aspects of the cameras
@@AJaytheCEO thAnks so much for getting back. I’m only going to buy one for our church to add to the 3 stationary ones we have. Also, thanks for your content….it was great. I will be following you!
God worked through UA-cam alogarithm to bring this to me, I bought the PTZ camera for our Church, & I'm too busy to concentrate reading the manual. This gives me confidence to start looking at it.
Mine is NDI capable though!
Awesome. It is easy to setup. The networking part can be hard but just follow what I did and it should go smoothly
Hi Ajay,
If you use HDMI cables what is your maximum length & should you use fibre optic hdmi?
Many thanks for your time!
Forgive my ignorance about these things, but how do you know which zoom level to get (20x,, 12x, or XXx)?? Our distance is like 20 to 25 feet.
I would go with 20X just because of the price. I eyeball it honestly. At my home church from the booth to the pulpit is like 70ft so I just tested it with a typical camcorder.
thanks from France (again)
You are welcome!
I've got the Fomako 20x PTZ NDI. It seems to be working just fine. I was very much surprised when AJay selected DHCP on - this confuses me. If I wanted my router to assign the same IP address to the device, I would have not selected DHCP, but leave it as is (with the already given IP address) or type in an IP address that I like the camera to have on the local network. Also, to set it up I've just pluged the ethernet canble to the switch and the camera started operating.
The cameras have been updated to support this. The original firmware required these changes but thankfully this doesn't need to happen anymore
Just installed in our church! Super excited and loving it. But I've noticed that every 5 to ten minutes it flickers to black for a moment. Have you experienced this?
The is tied to your white balance. Turn it to medium
@@AJaytheCEO thank you! Do I do this through the computer that the capture card is connected to, through the remote, or through the software over lan?
Nice review
Thank you
Is this one or others able to use a simple USB connection?
This one does not support USB connections
What is the unifi switch you're using and do you have a video on it?
I am using the 24 port POE switch from this video ► ua-cam.com/video/aD_fR5wULyE/v-deo.html
Hello, thank you for this great video. Just a question, what is the model of your Unifi PoE Switch? Thank you!
24 port the non pro model
Hi Ajay! I connected the ptz fomako to my router TP-Link ac1200 but is not working the poe power. What I'm missing? Is a setting in the camera, the cable or is the router? Thanks
Sounds like the router as of Poe is there and the right output it just works
We got 2 of these cameras. Loaded them into OBS. One works great with great picture. The other one is blurry in OBS. It looks fine when we're using the web portal. So are we missing something or does a setting need to be changed? Is there something we should check in OBS to help fix this or should we send this camera back?
I assume you are using them and sending video over the network and not through a capture card?
@@AJaytheCEO Yes. But the volunteer couldn't "hack" the view. So he's decided to learn the atem software instead of OBS. So send him some prayers! 🙂 He's a techie though.
Which PTZOptics knockoff would you recommend based on your testing? Or is PTZOptics worth the money?
Try Avkans, identical to PTZoptics, much better price.
Hi AJay, please could you say a bit more about the remote that it came with? Can you save scene presets? We're using the ATEM Mini Pro and don't have room /budget for a controller. I do have a PC running Bitfocus Companion so a software based controller could also work via this if you've a recommendation?
Seeing that you can connect and control the camera I've ip you should be able to control it that way. I'll try to test it out later this week before the conference... hopefully
Could you provide link for ip controller?
Here you go: amzn.to/3isBeHf
I couldn't connect it through PoE and OBS. Maybe you could show that next time you do the installation?
This camera does not support ndi so you would need some form of capture device on the computer running obs. How where you connecting the two?
@@AJaytheCEO I do have a capture device because I used a Sony camara before but this camara is better. Want to get another one but I need another capture device. Might try a computer hardware this time. Thanks man for the review! God bless!!
@@AJaytheCEO Wait! What? OBS is either using NDi to capture the device or not at all? Can't it capture via IP address?
Hello I bought the same PTZ camera and I am having pixel problems. How can I fix this? If You Know. I reached out to the manufacture and waiting for their help as well. Thanks.
What type of pixel problem? Would you email me a picture questions@ajayholmes.com
I've been playing with the rtsp stream and was impressed. It's better than the AVKANS which has some jitter. I also like it's web interface over the AVKANS.
I do find the auto focus to be slow. Lowlight isn't too bad, AVKANS is a little better but not by much.
Does anyone know what brand the lens and cmos is?
Yes, I found AVKANS auto focus is more faster, and Pan Tilt Speed is also faster. Avkans is identical to PTZoptics.
I see they have also a version with NDI which is $949. What do you recommend Fomako or Avkans?
I would say avkans as I have not tried a fomako ndi camera to confirm performance
@@AJaytheCEO Thank AJay, sorry to bother you again. I wanted to get the AVKANS but it is not available on amazon at the moment. Would you recommend SMTAV with NDI or should I wait until September to get the avkans?
The smtavs will work great as well
@@andreimalancea AVKANS NDI, they are official NDI products
Hello. Please help. Can you connect directly from the HDMI port to a projector? or a monitor? Thank you.
Yes you can
I know in can covert to 60p but what's the highest native frame rater. Were you able to make it higher than 25p. I thought I saw shuttering.
oh that was a reflection from your Rode pager/mic. that's what I get for watching UA-cam videos at high speed,
Can you configure the cams and controller without a hardline internet connection?
you don't need internet you just need everything on the same network: computer and cameras plugged into the same router, switch, etc
AJay, I love your reviews. I am really interested in NDI cameras. Our sanctuary seats about 125 people. I'm currently using a Canon HF R800. An HDMI to USB converter to the PC running vMix production software. I also have 2 iPhone 6’s with the NDI app installed for additional cameras, NDI works great, but the optics aren’t great. I’ve checked the PTZ Optics, SMTAV PTZ and the FoMaKo NDI PTZ Camera. In your video of the FoMaKo PTZ you checked to see if it was NDI, and it wasn’t. Have you reviewed any NDI cameras? What is your experience with NDI cameras? I’m subscribed to your channel.
Hey Lowell, thank you so much. I have reviewed a couple of NDI cameras. The PTZOptics one at my church is NDI but we don't use that functionality. I also reviewed the AVKans NDI camera which works great but the places that had these cameras had horrible or nonexistent networking so they could not be used. I think NDI is great if you have the foundation to support it: computers, network, etc
Try AVKANS NDI camera, which got approval by Newtek Inc.
Nice idea for the nomad churches, being able to mount the camera on a tripod
Does it work with an ATEM MINI? I am just getting a black screen with mine.
Yes it does you need to set the stem to a specific resolution as well as the camera
Can you provide link for ip controller? I’m looking at different ones for a rough estimate of getting one. Thanks God Bless!
Here you go amzn.to/3ewl52a
Do you know how much power your POE switch needs for each camera and the controller? I am putting together system with five cameras and the controller and I don't know what switch to buy to power it all.
I don't know of hand but in my 5 camera install I used the unifi 16 port poe switch and it had plenty of power for 8 devices
@@AJaytheCEO Thanks, that gives me some confidence. I was looking at 16 port switches as well. Would you mind sharing which switch you used?
@@bobpal377 store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-switching/products/usw-lite-16-poe
Any success controlling it with vmix PTZ options? Thanks
It will work with vmix Max or higher version
I am trying to set the Device ID when using the web interface. Under SysAttr it is grayed out and set to “1”. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I am trying to set device ID so that I can control two cameras independently
That's not where you change it. Try to log into the web page of the camera to change it
Can this camera be controlled in OBS using the PTZOptics plugins?
Yes it can
@@AJaytheCEO Thanks and thank you for all that you do. I have a client that contacted me less than an hour after you posted this video. I have already installed a couple of the AVKANS. Looking forward to the conference!!!
I had trouble getting it to work.
@@snaqvi2399 yeah, I can't get it to work either.
@@BrandonMorganIsAwesome For my video, I ran HDMI into the Atem Mini. I struggled with camera control for a while until I found that I had to change the Visca port in the camera software from it's default value to 5678 In the camera to match the port in the PTZOptics software. Once I did that, it worked great. I know there was another member in the Facebook Group that had the same issue and this solved his problem as well.
Has anyone else had an issue with this camera where the HDMI port won't output anything? The preview through the web interface works fine, so I know the camera itself is okay. I don't have any SDI equipment so I can't test that unfortunately.
What is the resolution you have set?
How do i find the ip address on my canera? Is it the same as yours/all of them?
By default yes the ip address is the same as it was in my video. It should be listed in the manual
@@AJaytheCEO ok i tried to put in yours, but it showed an error, But i did find info on it and it has a "plug and go" feature so i plugged in from laptop to camera and it worked, i appreciate your reply thanks!
can you record to usb/pendrive ?
no you cannot
avkans camera can do it.
How much do you charge for an in-person consultation?
$150 if within a 2 hour drive $300 for 2-3 hour drive. Over that it would need a special arrangement
Have You installed it into a church in the end? If so, do You have a link for some real-world footage from this camera? I am considering it, but am hesitant since I have only a small idea how the video quality is.
I'm installing it Thursday at a church as well as 3 more in another church next week
@@AJaytheCEO Thanks You for the reply. Any chance I can tune in on their web stream once it's done? I am really curious what quality these PTZs can achieve. Could You share what church(es) will use these for streaming?
I'll see but the churches in installing these are completely new to streaming and have no platform established yet
Did he just flex his PS5 on us? Low blow!!
LOL
Anyone able to control this with PTZoptic software?
The camera control software should work via ip address
The GB28181 is the pretty much the China-mandated version of ONVIF.
Thanks @Chas Davis
They probably won’t be sub 1k for too much longer
Yeah most likely.