The Insane Rise of Vtubers and Why I Hate Them
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It's that annoying description thing I do again, vtubers are the topic of this video yayyyy gawr gura, uhhh korone, and the other ones are all here! mori calliope was her name I remember. so here's my hololive video. -scamboli reviews signing out - Фільми й анімація
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Another banger video man. Keep up the good work
Keep making content man I actually love it.
@@fabriciopezoa4163 Damn you watched a 23 minute video in 2 minutes, impressive
Thought that said NwordPass ngl😩
I can't believe you neglected to mention that Annoying Orange was the very first V-Tuber in the history section
It's ok. Many already knows this
How exactly is the Annoying Orange the first V-tuber?
*What*
Eh he's probably closer to a person wearing a mask rather than someone using a virtual avatar
@@itsmesky3545 As far as I'm concerned, the live aspect is the only real difference. Annoying Orange was all pre-recorded
As a guy who used to work out with the entire wrestling team, you'd be surprised some of the noises people make
@Paul Perreira damn straight
@Paul Perreira more weird noises in a taekwondo or muay thai class 🤐
"HUOOIIIOIOUIUI£A"
In the words of Kriakos Grizzly,
UUAAAAAAAHHP
EHP
BWEHP BEEHP
BWEHP BEEHP
EHP BEEHP
AAAAAAAAAAHHH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
EAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH
@@bunkersketches1238 on god, eastern martial arts has a lot of noises
can confirm
The funniest Vtuber I saw was based in Scotland and he had the most heaviest Scottish accent ever. A highlight was how he announced that he'd BRB to take a dump.
"AM BE RIGHT BACK CHAT. IVE GOT TO TEK A MASSIVE JOBBY"
please give me the name
Please tell me the name
PLEASE GIVE ME HIS NAME
PLEASSEEEEE GIVE US THE NAME!!!!!!
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!! GIVE ME THE NAMEEEEE!!!!!!
14:18 BRO WHAT IS HE DOING 💀💀💀
Exactly 💀
I snorted at that part, honestly
i'm going to be a male v-tuber, and i'm going to speak in heavy boston accent while constantly flexing and talking about my ma
Hell yeah bro hmu with your channel and imma apply for a membership
Please freaking do that. I’d watch every day
Already subbed,
Looking forward to your performance
Count me in
King.
This man is not scared of dissing the internet's girlfriends.
Damn
F*ck the Internet and their girlfriends
cuz he's the goat
That's why he's one of my favorite youtubers
absolute king
Extremely entertaining video. I love the fact that you're just venting your thoughts instead of trying to find a way to make this into a thesis arguing why Vtubers are the worst or something. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's a nice breath of fresh air listening to somebody transparently airing their feelings instead of framing it as a grand discovery or something.
Also the production on it was great!
The vtuber community is full of evil scum. Pipkin Pippa and Rev Says Desu are two of the worst, but there’s many more.
VTubers are not bad for me. Even if there sus.
I mean... of course he didn't try to do that... because he would fail. There's nothing objectively wrong or bad about VTubers. This guy is just weird.
@@gazelle_diamond9768 you’re telling on yourself
When subtitles transcript "Hololive" as "hollow life" and "hollow wife" I felt that.
“Hey, I could do that” starting to sound like “we can make a religion out of this”
good ass comparison
We could make a religion out of thi- no dont
@@Catsrnice_ Hey, I could do that
I could swear he was doing it on purpose as reference to that video
"Hey, I'm gonna make a religion out of this"
I've never seen someone so openly say they hate something while also so clearly respecting and understanding that thing at the same time.
Those videos are hard to come by, they are like gems if you do come by any tho.
I know I respect this person, Even though I haven’t watched his other videos and only half of this, he has gained my respect.
Respect+ to this man
@Sketcho Fink what
But he really didn't fully understand it. The point about not caring who's behind the character and Kizuna when the company was pretty much forced to make the three characters BECAUSE people cared about the OG voice actress and didn't want any switches to be done. You can't one day exchange Korone's VA and expect it to be smooth sailing, Hololive would have a company destroying backlash for it, other members would leave as they are often friends IRL, it'd be a disaster.
Thank you for this video. I gave a brief rundown of Vtubers to the dudes on my shift the other day at the fire station since a gwar video popped up on his feed randomly. This will be a great resource to show them later lol.
Hey if you're a fire figher have you ever heated up a hot pocket in a burning housefire of a single 80 year old woman and her two cats in Oklahoma in 2009 and watched her burn to death while waiting for the inside of the hot pocket to thaw out in the giant campfire formally known as her house?
@@lotion5238 thats weirdly specific
no.
I heard a quote a while ago that stuck with me. "a man's ego wants to be lied to" that is the only explanation I have for those who enjoy the high-pitched voices.
yep. also the asmr crap and the clear lewdness and appealing to the lonely incel.
Yep sound like little ahh anime toddlers
That makes sense, it makes them not feel like such losers when they see a cute "girl" who's into it too I guess. Not that it makes them at all compatible still, so it just swings right back around to being sad again.
@@Vaguer_Weevil
Yep if grown woman like do little ahh anime voice using a character models that resemble “4000 year old vampire queen” it makes them feel good for crushing on them and making nsfw content of them, and there’s millions of them so they can be as loud or as quiet as they like about their worship of this cringe cult
@@RedVelvetBlackleather ...what?
"I believe that most people aren't under the impression that this is a real girl with a real personality"
you my friend, are giving humans too much credit.
he hasnt seen the insta fan pages
I thought it was a machine?
@@SpikeTheWolf a machine what you smoking g
streamers cant help but have their own personalities bleed into their characters. its the reason its really easy to find out past personas or roommates. the interaction *is* with a real person
@@SpikeTheWolf ur ass is a machine
I agree with basically everything you said.
Now watch this enter your most popular videos and inevitably make more vtuber related content.
He still hasn't fallen down the rabbit hole. I mean, he can pretend to dislike them all he wants. It's only a matter of time.
Waddup
In time, he will learn to love them
The inescapable vtuber hole, once you fall into it, you can't leave and eventually you reach the bottom of it.
@@Minuey He's already slipping. 22:35
Can confirm watching one video will ruin your recommendations. I clicked one "ikum bokum" video without knowing what a vtuber was. Guess what kept coming back for the next month.
Clear watch history and turn it off...problem solved
Oh god that's exactly how it happened to me too, the same video even and at the time I was watching OneyPlays playing Banjo-Kazooie so of course I start getting recommended videos on that game.
I must have blocked like 10 Vtuber channels and flagged many MANY videos under "not interested" before they stopped showing up. Took weeks. I just hope it doesn't start again from watching this video..
somehow my recommendations are mostly fine after I do this stuff . prob cause it flags as memes for me due to how much emkay I watch
Ain't this aging like a wine. Vtuber community today got a lot of dramas in it they might as well make a reality show out of them all
I love that because everyone in the thumbnail belongs to the agency with arguably the least drama of any major media corporation I’ve ever seen.
Not reality,tough
Really,really far ftom reality
He did mention the Taiwan issue - unless there's something much worse going on now ??
@@nihluxler1890 really? One of the reasons why I stopped watching them is because they generated too much drama for such a short timespan.
yeah I been hearing vtuber dramas nonstop,
As a grown man that likes V Tubers you make some good points
you would like vtubers weirdo
@@Zenbon111 it's just entertainment, do you not enjoy things?
I didn't notice. Just the usual, a hundred different ways to proclaim to the world "I watch entertainment to affirm my biases". "Genuine" used as just a word for things that don't break the habit of having the same thought, endlessly repeating in your head, trying to find things to contrast against. That's what overthinking is, rolling in place never getting anywhere with your thought.
That's this whole "I don't get it but I've completely figured it out and it bores me" oxymoron. Even nearing that realization then causes cringe, the world's most important emotion because everybody needs to know you feel it.
The reality of "genuine " habits is just that they make you realize NOTHING, even about how exactly the same as "baby talk" they are.
@Shin Shaman I wouldn't describe curt like that... like have you seen mans, no homo but that's an above average looking dude right there.
See you know they're good points BECAUSE you're grown
"Asian countries go hard as fuck with their trolling"
As someone with an interest in history this is a massive understatement
Wait till the rest of us catch up !! 😆
I would say that America did some pretty good trolling back in the 1940s.
reminds me of the chinese jet pilots meowing over radio to manipulate US pilots into lowering their guards
Japan nanjing gretest trole ever so good they pretend it never hapend
''Sir you computer has virus''
Actually an informative video with personal opinion sprinkled in without ruining it. Well done sir 👌
12:26 "I've spoken to at least 1000 women at this point..."
The 13th Labour of Hercules
Born too late to explore the earth. Born too soon to explore the universe. Born just in time to see anime girls explore minecraft on stream.
Goddamn this made me laugh so hard why do you have so few likes
Born in just the right time
You can still explore the earth
Jangan gitu lah ajg.
Pathetic bet.
@@love_radiation6408 - Pathetic bet?
Taruhan kesedihan? 😋
I remember meeting girls acting like "real life anime characters" when I was a teenager, that actually cringed me out so much.
Fuck man, you just reminded me of something in middle school.
they clearly know what they be doing bro. like that's their main goal. acting "cute" with that loli voice which is cringy as shit. staying anonymous and all that bullshit. no offense their main target are those Simps. but yk there are lot of talented small youtubers man. who are very good at games,musics and all that. these vtubers have 0 talents tbh...disappointing asf
also remember when that gawr gura person made like 13 grands or something in like 5 minutes with all those donations..holy shit man
@@JIREN972 lmao, your statement suddenly reminds me of Luna from Hololive. Lucky you, she's an actual talent and not just a simp-bait. Her piano/electone streams are amazing. She loves Dark Souls games and even played Mortal Shell recently.
@@JIREN972 tbh, acting cute for 3 hours and singing with that voice is a talent
10.59 I remebre a jojo meme of that clip, with the moon having dio's face itched into it, and when the cam turned to the moon you would hear "WRYYY!"
Awoo!
Awoo!
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Bro you just summarised my entire view on the topic. Thanks!
I hope this doesn't fuck over my recommended
same bro
as rick astley says, "and so do i"
wise words@@yoshier6969
It did for me already, lol. The first 5 Shorts I saw were about Vtubers. It’s gonna take me a while to get that heresy out of my recommended.
Gotta get the damn Space Marines to purge these xenos.
i checked and my recommendations are clear of hostiles@@Screwbots
Honestly Vtubers are a lot less annoying than a lot of the "art" channels that are really just drama channels in disguise.
VTubers community got similar issues by the way. The massive amount of "VTweeters".
@@gilgameshlfx7006 Im gonna say that 90 (or more) percent of those "VTweeters" are not actual Vtubers with a model, videos, or fan bases yet. They just say Vtuber because it's hip and trendy.
I don't understand this trend of """""art""""" channels that HAVE to be drama channels. It's just so bizarre. They can't just be like Aaron Blaise and Magic: The Gathering artists that just draw and teach.
you mean the art channels that roasted kids on deviantart back in the day?
@@gilgameshlfx7006 those aren’t Vtubers, the Vtuber community sort of despises them
Great vid, since this hit the algo for people who watch chuubas it's funny to see everyone mald in the recent comments and it's so obvious no one actually watched the whole thing lol
The vtuber community is full of evil scum. Pipkin Pippa and Rev Says Desu are two of the worst, but there’s many more.
14:21 fucking insane Imagine Walter white behind that pc or whatever acting like a cat💀
"Mista White what the fuck are ya doin'?"
"I'm cooking Jesse, I'm cooking..."
"Chinese viewers were not happy."
*Shows angry Black man*
Perhaps he's Brother Hao?
@@yorka274 brother hao's chinese is better than mine...
@@durianjaykin3576 lol
He could've been Chinese
@@ScamboliReviews Schrodinger’s Chinese man
i honestly have no opinion on vtubers, except as an artist, i’m EXTREMELY interested in their models. i love the way they’re made, and i follow a couple artists who draw and sell gorgeous models. the process is just so fun :)
That moth vtuber I briefly showed tweaks her model on stream I think
Same.
I mostly only watch people because I’m impressed by certain things. Like I watch Markiplier because I’m impressed by Markilpliers’ ability to act and control his voice. I enjoy studying the V Tuber’s character design. For some reason, I’m fine with VR chat characters but not V tuber characters.
@@ScamboliReviews not briefly, she has entire streaming sessions where she's working on updating her own model.
@@ScamboliReviews the moth girl has 3 forms
have you heard of theCecile? she is an artist who mostly does art streams/videos
As soon as you said "Act 1" i already knew that I was gonna have to save this one for another day. 😵😵😵
I love that theres random Breath of The Wild clips in the backround from time to time
As hololive vtubers streamed for longer and became more comfortable to stray away from their canon lore, you’ll start to realise that yagoo is depressed
oof
dreams: crushed
Actually there was a post on reddit where they, the girls hint that yagoo is sometimes like that and hides it behind a smile
Who’s yagoo?
@@sittingcrowd912 The CEO of Hololive
I love how he specifies multiple times that it's just the way that he feels about them and that doesn't mean they are inherently bad, he doesn't make it into a matter of what is generally entertaining or not because that shit's relative but more like what is entertaining for him on a personal level, and I mean, you like what you like, can't judge that
coulda stated in a more constructive, and healthier way. dude just comes off as a bully... more so with the title. Pretty much claims to be pointing out "the cringe" while acting cringey. LIke " i hate this cuz i do not get it.. so im gonna make fun of it.. for the lawls" like really? why? i respect a good edgelord.. this not it... this just meh.
@@azadalamiq Damn, sorry that he made fun of your virtual girlfriend my dude
@@azadalamiq From what I can see so far it's more respectful and understanding as opposed to others.
@Shin Shaman says the guy in the comments section of a Vtuber video 👌
@@azadalamiq bro he was trolling more than making fun of stuff, and he even talked about some good parts in the Vtuber community, it's just that he doesn't like it and made the fact that it's his personal opinion pretty clear
I can’t believe there’s a whole lore behind this topic with factions and crap. Dang the internet has really become a metaverse in of itself.
This is such a great video!
Just to clarify about the Taiwan thing, it's even more ironic than that. The Chinese cannot actually access youtube, so like you said they used a VPN to use youtube. *They set their location as Taiwan.* So it's the Chinese's fault for the Taiwanese analytics even really existing, and they're upset... despite that if Taiwan wasn't a sovereign country they wouldn't have high speed access to youtube.
Omg, that would be hilarious if it wasnt rage inducing.
@@TheDragonQueen-uh4lm Calling it hypocritical is a massive understatement.
People who use Taiwan setting, and rage over Taiwan are 2 different kind of people
damn
When your country is an authoritarian state that doesn't let you use youtube, but it's definitely the best country ever and is worth attacking people online to defend it's honor!
You can basically identify the entire problem by having a vtuber(/female twitch streamer/influencer) explain, to her fanbase, how they might impress and date a girl like her.
Too realistic
,
some of them actually dive into this. like Suisei. If she doesn't like Gachikois (simps) she has said she does not encourage them. Because what they are in love with, it isn't real.
@@idealicfool cringe
@@idealicfool "They are real for me!!!"
- Galen "Starkiller" Marek.
i'd love to see something like a 5 year later revisit to this to see if your opinions on them has changed in any way considering how there's even more different kinds of vtubers nowadays
I can't imagine how hard it was editing this. I clicked off the video on multiple occasions when you played cringe clips so good job
Was watching this video while my dad was sitting on the couch. When the milking scene came on he just stared at me and that was so uncomfortable.
that's what you get for watching anime next to your parents
I feel your pain
Do you even know the concept called "fear" ?
What did you expect watching an anime channel with your dad sitting next to you? lol
The milking scene?!
(Oh no i just watched it)
You know what's kinda funny? After VTubers exploded in popularity, everyone just kind of forgot about Kizuna Ai, who was essentially one of the first.
5/21/21: I said ONE OF, you guys, I didn't say that Ai was the absolute first. Even still, to paraphrase from Google, "In late 2016, Kizuna AI, often considered to be the first VTuber, made her debut on UA-cam, and was the first to coin and use the term "virtual UA-camr". So I'm still quite close to being right.
She died when corpo changed her main account voice actress
@@skmt-lm8vk I wasn't following to closely this whole thing but I believe her og va got really replaced and now she have some non VTuber channel
@@wojtek130470 Kizuna Ai herself already addressed this. Its still the og va until now
@@NobleLaika yea just saw her video about this. But gonna say kinda weird that she is hiread as Advisor
Because Kizuna Ai was basically one of those variety shows for which, if you were not previously interested in that type of content without the vtuber aspect, of course you'd drop off.
13:30 is INSANE LMAO
Your VTuber imitation has me in tears 😂 You’re so real for this
A hating video with a decent level of open-mindedness, actual in-depth research and legitimate reasons that aren't just hating for the sole sake of hating? What we have here is a truly rare sight here indeed, and a commendable one at that!
pain
That’s exactly what I thought
I wish more of these types of videos existed, I enjoy vtubers and this video was amazing
Some things are just meant to be hated and there’s no need to have reasoning for it. Like pedophiles and vtubers and their fanbse
@@Settiis guess I don't need reasoning to hate on the entirety of kpop and their fanbase too, thanks for yo comment
Gorillaz were the first V-Tubers.
Not exactly VTubers. Wouldn’t the title of first VTuber go to Annoying Orange. 🤔
This man knows his history.
Faxxxxx
*Y E S*
And Dethklok
im surprised you used not 1 but 2 video clips of the J-20 fighter jet. Good job!
I got the this broadcast has been interrupted then got an ad lol
Its refreshing to see someone who doesn't like V-tubers but gives genuine criticism of why they feel the way they feel and doesn't just talk shit just because
He described it so well. I really don't like them but could never tell people why cause I didn't really know. This video has helped a lot
Yessir
@Milk Tea idk about everyone else,i just like em because they can be cute or stupidly entertaining. Let alone the fact that some of them are really talented in music, singing and art, which makes them really enjoyable. But i can see why people would feel uncomfortable with how much they can seem to act but then again,its part of the job. Some act more than others while others seem more natural than others. At the end of the day,its just different reasons why people watch them or hate them and thats fine. What we don't want at all,are that percentage of antis that dox or harass them, which no matter what is your opinion on V-tubers, we can all agree that those people,are pieces of shits
@@kkiouris5719 exactly. vtubers are like candy, they dont provide any nutritional benefits and they're probably an unhealthy addiction, but it's fucking enjoyable to turn off your brain and snack on it.
"just because" is fine too. Not like they deserve careful consideration.
Finally, a person who can criticize something to do with anime who actually did there research and can respect the people who enjoy it.
The ultimate Chad
This Vtubing is A TREND that began with Kizuna A.I from Japan. I wasn't surprised that this originated from Nihongo for MyAnimeList is Japanese as well. Hundreds of people are getting inspired and catching on the Vtubing Phenomenon. Since Manga is dominating comic books, Vtubers will dominate how we precieve entertainment. Vtubing is The New Trend of our Modern Day now. First it was Myspace, then Skype then Instant Messenger and now this.
Hmm, i think anime fatigue is unavoidable, it will return to be niche in a couple of years, i hope.
Well actually the research wasn't that well done
@@soniagutierrezquiroz5596 haha sure
a good take,w/o spin. now there are vocaloids w/
a nearing 1000song Karaoke list. I suggest you
listen w/o watching,then view,then analyze. It's
truly more shocking than"one"would imagine
normally the way i think about the whole vtuber thing is a blind rage of hatred towards them, but this video actually puts my thoughts into a sort of translator and makes them make sense
I'm so glad you brought up the weird baby-like noises these VTubers make. That's one of my main complaints about them, when you said "Is this an episode of Teletubbies or Twitch" it perfectly summed up how I feel about it.
Yeah, even if it's ironic I can't help but just look away and facepalm. Even if it is coming from genuinely talented vtubers.
@@leetlefool7173 True, only the Nijisanji are the normal ones, but there are normal vtubers once you try to search for them.
In my opinion, I still dislike vtubers so even if there's normal or insane vtuber, my mindset won't change the way it is. One of my fake friends like vtubers, and heck, I feel weirded out, I ended up leaving their friend's group only to realize my fake best friend also was a fan of it. I didn't mean in a resentment way, it was more like hated type to dislike so I hated vtuber. Same way with Genshin. I don't hate the game but the fandom made me hate even more
honestly the main reason why I only watch like 2 of them, because they don’t talk in baby voices or make them
Same I hate that they mostly sound like lolis. Even the English ones. And the whole floaty animation ai they for is wierd. Sometimes their mouths move Sometimes it doesn't match what they're saying.
It's all so make believe that is appauling.
Weebs are just pedophiles in disguise
Scambo: “Korone did grow on me...”
Korone: “I am Mercedes Benz!”
wowowowowowowowowowow
@Shin Shaman who hurt you my guy
Sorry, I am latte
@@Animetor the guys is using a copypastq clearly. I saw him post the exact same thing mulitiple times
@Shin Shaman nice description of yourself, my man.
19:35 bro accidentally give asmr 💀
This video feels really refreshing to watch because I was just talking to someone the other day about how the "ugguu i'm an anime babyyyy" voice thing really just worked my last nerve. Why is that a thing that caught on and became popular? It's just ridiculous.
The antis attacking Coco have gone well past trolling, and haven’t even quit with their bullying
good
@@avi-sb5lb not really sure how that’s good, but aight.
@@theburgerking1236 stop liking your own comments Isaac
@@avi-sb5lb Nu uh, dumbass.
@@avi-sb5lb Says the guy bawling his eyes out.
I really like V-Tubers but it was nice seeing someone that doesn‘t like them name actual points and not just talk trash ❤️👍🏻
Thank you for the comment brudda
I really can respect that
I can agree with that
Demographic for v tubers is just lonely dudes. They can't get women irl so they take comfort in a digital artificial substitute.
@@sabus1265 I watch clips of V-Tubers and I have a social life, go drink with friends, go on dates found through Tinder, and all that jazz. A person's hobby or shouldn't reflect their personality. I know watching V-Tubers isn't a "Normal" hobby, but it was the same with anime back in the early 2000s to 2010s. Clearly, you watch anime (I think) but it was widely despised and hated. These days it's become widely accepted. People who watched it were considered the absolute lowest of the low scum. I will agree that a big demographic as you say is that of lonely people but it's not as one-sided as you think.
I don't understand people who get into this insane parasocial relationship with entertainers like this. That's all they are to me, entertainers. If I find one entertaining, I may watch some clips but that's about it.
Parasocial relations with a fictional character? Yeah that's fine. A parasocial relationship with a person? That's an issue. Each of these VTubers play a character, so are you parasocial about the character or the human playing the character?
Same I think that too many people forget that streamers have their own lives similar to students being shocked that teachers have a life outside of school when they are kids.
@scrittle It's both, and it is absolutely not fine. They form the relationship by believing the character is who the person really is, and they become dangerous when put in a position where that idea is challenged or broken. Also, forming a parasocial relationship with a purely fictional character that does not exist in any way is even worse, and someone like that needs to get professional help asap.
@@supermariomaker1734 Everyone has their own lives outside their work. It's why celebrity culture disgustes me so much. Let them be themselves in private and not force them to put on an act 24/7.
@@kevinbell5674 I disagree, no --fan-- stan (because "parasocial" refers exclusively to stans) is going to think a cartoon is real. Making demands and suggestions is common audience behaviour, what parasocial discourages is invading a streamer's privacy and shaming entitled behaviour. A VTuber model is an animated toon with a streamer personality, the streamer doesn't act whacky and flirtatious off-camera, fans are fine to treat them like an interactive cartoon. This is very different from a flesh streamer who could feel disturbed by having their looks misused without consent or stanning (unless you're Dream).
The shark one actually uses her actual voice, she had a youtube channel before based around lps, in one of alice lps’s videos where she tries and figure out what happened to her youtuber friends after they quit youtube thats where she tells everyone abt her friend
Actually people do moan like that when working out, I know because my mom does it and I hate it
"Doin your mom doin doin your mom" the personal trainer
@@luana.desousa6398 she works out in the living room, besides she's an incredibly toxic nice girl so I don't think anyone wants that
no
......
No.....
you give such a mature and detailed reason for not being a fan of "cute girls doing cute things" meanwhile I simply can't stand forced cuteness and there's nothing else to it lol. I'm a kpop fan, and every time I see one of those 20+ year old men get asked to act cute, I die a little inside.
Every time a variety show asks an idol todo aegyo i feel like throwing up
LightishRedGummi i dont understand how you like it but ima respect your opinion
omg same
@@hampty6363 like what? Kpop? How was your comment necessary in anyway?😭
the only aegyo from a kpop idol I accept is Chuu from Loona but for male idols I really hate the forced kind of aegyo where they sing a song in higher pitch or say something 😭 there are some naturally cute male idols tho
Vtubers are for lonely people, it is the ultimate parasocial relationship. It's why they blew up in the pandemic, and then most people forgot about them once life went back to normal.
Everything you said is incorrect
Are you sure about that?
It is for lonely people. But I don’t think people forgot about them. Some did. But they remain very popular.
Found the parasocial. @@KieraMeow
*once life went back to normal*
Hey buddy, save some copium for the rest of us.
What a long promotion for your vtuber character you got me dude 😭🥰😭
I didnt know Hololive pulled out of China over that incident, good on them. This video made me walk out mildly respecting the vtuber industry for that alone.
Oh yeah, they even apparently let the Chinese vtubers keep their avatars and names and stuff with no issue
yeah, China was an absolute shitshow for hololive from my perspective. I dont believe the talents got to keep their IP's tho, they stream on the Chinese version of youtube Bilibili so im also not 100% sure
@@ScamboliReviews I recall that not being the case actually,... that said, the latest info i've seen was from october last year, but it might have been a miscommunication from the CN managers to the talents (at least one of them, anyway) that they (or just she) could keep the avatars/names; unfortunately i haven't seen any more recent news about it.
@@ScamboliReviews That's not really the case, at first we thought that they are gonna keep their avatars but it didn't happen. Either just miscommunication or a result of that they were dog whistling to antis (watching Wolf Warrior movie) and encouraging hate on Coco on their private accounts (only 2 out of 6 form chinese weren't in any way involved in some way with antis). Apparently chinese management also wanted Coco gone.
Fck China broo
"...unless you're a guy, then chances are slim..." Very true. There are some popular male vtubers, but their rise was less -- meteoric(?), than their female counterparts. The reasons for this are pretty obvious.
[Edit: I see some comments about Kuzuha. I'm not discounting his - or, Kanae-san's - success, within the vtuber landscape. However, exceptions are not the rule. Look at 2020 superchat earnings, by quarter, and you'll find the Top 20+ are dominated by female vtubers. 2019 and prior, demonstrate this. 2021 will continue the trend -- unless all the girls graduate.]
rise of female vtubers is cause incels like hearing woman with high pitched voices and behaving like their favorite anime waifu character, to them its a fantasy which is really sad what this world has went to.
@@amarson2322 we call those people weebs
@@theslimegod2854 I prefer beta weebs since there are some weebs who can actually break the tradition and actually get a girl friend but then again usually when that happens they basically unweeb themselves depending on the relationship, kinda like me nowadays I barely watch anime at all and kinda feel bored of it, I do watch the vtubers but mainly for how funny that they are over the over cute or “sexy” ones or try to be one, I mainly like the vtubers that are mainly funny and not don’t try to be cute or sexy
@@amarson2322 or pedophiles like the high pitched voices and the childish ways they act
jiggle physics
One thing I always tell people about popularity and how certain people rise to the top is always about appeal. Anime has been going crazy in the U.S. for over thirty years now, anddddd so has porn. Why not combine them? Why not be anime, make money, and lean on the ‘sex’ aspect of clothing? WHILE never showing your face. Oh also, 10:59 I’m right there with you, anime screams drive me insane
I like vtubers that are literally just a regular streamer but they have an avatar, found a couple of these recently and it can be really fun because the models can add a ton to a stream without having to bother with a whole camera and lighting setup
Oh god, it's actually so relieving to hear someone verbalize exactly what I've been feeling about this whole phenomenon.
Yeah, seriously
My online friends love them
And me being a girl myself cant help to translate this as guy loves dumb grill
@@HackersSun There are vtubers that are popular with female audiences. They're dudes with male anime avatars. Luxiem is one group if you care to look.
@@Malluc wtf kind of fangirl bs is this
@@HackersSun a kind that a lot love, u don't have to like it but don't be disrespectful to others
@@HackersSun they're basically streamers that just don't show their faces
My favorite clips from vtubers are when they’re acting like real streamers, like that clip of rushia fucking screaming at her viewers for buying out all the candy she liked.
@@CimnaBun Rushia scream compilation no. 3
Hololive EN or basically any vtuber to me were in fact cringe as well because they tried going along with the cutesy persona they made up. Do you guys rember how Akai Haato and Peko were during their debut?
But eventually a lot of them give up on that and just become meme(albeit reddit meme) versions of themselves and start just having fun. I think that's when they become entertaining to watch.
i feel bad for Her though hahaha
its her fav snack
@@imjustlikedenji5954 i don't think HoloEN ever went along with a cutesy persona.
I guess they sometimes act like that but most of the time they are not. Gura and Kiara are walking memes, Ame is a toxic gamer, Calli goes for a gap-moe aesthetic (mixing acting cute with acting deadpan as fuck and swearing alot), idk about Ina because i don't watch her but she give the vibe of "normal ones" from the video.
@@Miki_Naz They were just very inexperienced as streamers at that point you could easily see that. But they have grown on me.
19:37 thank you for this
I agree with almost everything you said but the Kiss me Mario vtuber’s “Falcon Punch” clip is unquestionably hilarious.
that fucking wii party joke killed me at 13:35
That shit was gold man
Same😂
That was legit the funniest thing I’ve seen all day
Beef boss flashbacks
No mercy lol
This comment section is actually pretty chill I'm kind of glad and disappointed at the same time
Just give it some time
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Just give it some time (4)
Just give it some time (5)
How is it disappointing
The baby talk is generally the worst for me. Idk if it’s jealousy or just unbridled anger but MAAAAN the thought of people making a living of of just being low effort cringe makes me big sad
unpopular opinion but the best moment of vtubers is the moment when they are not clipped. When they talk about boring stuff and not even trying that hard to entertain. Also the concept of vtuber is amazing imo. you can be there and show "yourself" without being judged by height, fat, skin colour, pimples, et. We can simply be "the anime man/woman"
I agree with you there, especially the concept of being a vtuber. One of my favorite vtubers is IronMouse and I remember her saying one stream that being able to play online and stream as a vtuber has helped her feel human since her autoimmune disease keeps her indoors and mostly in bed. Being able to stream and be a vtuber helps her feel more like a person and gets people to treat her like one rather than a sickly girl because of the visual of the avatar.
It ironic because this video is very judgy, when people having fun boomer will criticise them because they unwilling to understand that people want to shut down their brain and have fun and laugh.
or you can just skip the stupid anime character and be yourself while only showing your voice
@@durian111 why ? he is mainly talking about himself, and he isnt wrong. actually, he is pretty much correct on every point, aside from the fact that all this nonsense bothers him, while others can take enjoyment out of weebie cutesy crap
Nice. I can't really get into streams in general, I like concise stuff
"Still not gonna stop making fun of my friends for watching that baby shit"
Couldn't agree more
That's what makes us MEN
Lol
Yeah and I'm gonna keep posting them because your reactions are funny.
*men of culture*
@@ScamboliReviews All it means is that we're boomers that are too old for that shit. Vtubers are the Naruto headbands of Zoomers. Seems cringy but I kinda get it.
Ik this vid is 2 years old or so.
Was an addict to vtubers and found a group of friends that were the same, I now have a loving wife and house. Those friends are still such addicts to vtubers
What about your wife?
Watching this video 2 years ago put vtubers on my algorithm and now I'm 2 years down the rabbit hole.
You actually took the time to thoroughly understand vtubers and why you don't like them. I have massive respect for that.
@Theli Mega Real mature dude. Thanks.
You must be easily impressed or a 15 year old as in target audience for anitubers I guess, dude claims (more like he seems to brag about it lol) he done "72 hours of research" that's really not enough to get a good idea about a single chuuba let alone Vtubing as a whole. What it is it's a lot of semi-accurate information mixed with bullshit and glaring mistakes like suggesting that nijisanji copied Hololive while it was the other way round back in the day, also some random ramblings when it comes to making actual arguments it's all over the place, one of the worst takes I've seen so far honestly.
@CHARLES GRIMSEY ProjektMelody
One critical part that was not quite correct is the claim that vtubers aren't genuine and they're a character. In truth, only a tiny portion of it is a character, and the "multiple people playing Kizuna Ai" experiment ended in a failure precisely because personality is so tied to their appeal. So this part doesn't really make much sense and seems like a lack of knowledge.
What would make much more sense to address is how there are very popular Japanese youtubers out there who are not vtubers and do show their face, and yet somehow it's these avatar users that get international fame for some reason. Their personalities are the same as before they became vtubers, so why did adopting this avatar make them so famous? On one hand, you can feel happy about their newfound success, on the other hand, one feels a little sad that they are only famous by not showing their real face.
@@asdfasdfasdf1218 I wouldn't say a tiny portion of it is a character when they speak in high pitched voices, shout random "cute" phrases and generally behave in a way meant to appeal. No in depth topics or subjects spoken, lots of weird noises also for "cute" (or even sexual) appeal. No one behaves in this one-dimensional way in their daily lives. The personality appeal is that, in reality, there isn't one. Just "cute" behavior. The virtual avatar adds to this character because it's visually appealing, and mimics said behavior.
The wii party host part killed me
I laughed while making that one too
@@ScamboliReviews listen I totally agree with you but lemme just defend atleast my hololive boner here
A lot of the appeal is cuteness that's also the appeal of "cute anime girls doing cute anime things" kind of anime cuz I guess after a stressful day you wouldn't really want watch eclipse like stuff (a lil exaggeration here) but yeah.....
The sounds I get it yeah they are annoying at times but maybe where some people think it's annoying for others it might add to the escapism...... personally i'm with the former ones
But it's the vtubers that can offer something beyond cuteness that actually succeed some are amazing at games (gura is gr8 at rthym games) some can sing very well and some like calli can rap real good frankly most of the time it's te sounds that get clipped buts you can find impressive content as well just like ur average streamer although at first I was kinda angry at the vid you do lay ur points well
@@cliffordbanes2271 I think this just comes to down to the individual. This part here 11:00 is perfect to understand scambolis view
@@eri5523 yea ..........may all this cute girl shit is to distract us from the ILLUMINATI......lol...oh wait ..........OH SHI-
@@cliffordbanes2271 Woah is that a response that exceeds 6 lines? You fool! I'm gonna ask if you have anything better to do now during covid, knowing full well that you don't.
I think that because i have a girlfriend that its impossible for me to ever enjoy vtubers
I watched this to validate my feelings. Subscribed. 👍
I like Vtubers but this is why I love your channel. You're never afraid to talk shit on something that is widely loved yet you still manage to make it really funny. Keep doing what you're doing Ravioli.
Thank ya for the comment
Hehe, simp
@@simenen5101 two people calmly acknowledging their differences in opinion and then there's you...
At least this video is well researched not like other vtuber hate video I found on youtube.
@@Mazu12 it was a bad joke, should have probobly said that at the end. Sorry for causing a misunderstanding. Didnt mean to annoy anyone.
Not surprised Korone grew on you, she grew on me to...
Just don't get sucked into it man. You can still escape. You still have your sanity.
Yubi Yubi
Korone and that tomboy vtuber are my favorites, Rushia is kinda funny, the rest is meh. The one that I hate the most aren’t vtubers tho, it’s the fucking fans
I know this is a joke and I don’t mean to ruin it, but i think it’s worth noting that some people have good genes that make it so that they just don’t get addicted to things. They’ll smoke cigarettes casually for a bit and then just stop cause it’s not their style.
*E E K U M B O K U M*
You can still escape…. for now
about the mute vtubers, there's one that uses speech-to-text-to-speech with a really nice voice model and it's very funny and fun
If you watch enough clips out of curiosity, while never watching actual streams, you will have a favorite. Nothing can be done to undo it.
I prefer this era compared to years where famous youtubers tend to make issues out of each other just for the sake of content.
oh you just wait till more indie vtubers come out. without that company contract they'll turn the scene into a cesspool. I'm expecting 4 years at most
@@fiendish9474 The whole vtuber scene is already saturated why wait for 4 years?
@@chaosbringer5248 at least for now they (at least the mainstream ones) are mostly still drama free. I'm expecting in 4 years for it to be filled with instagram ethots using the gimmick and bringing whatever baggage they have picking fights all the time and shit
@@fiendish9474
When are we going to have Jake Paul vs Yagoo or anyone in Hololive in a boxing match? I mean that would be bonkers and people would pay for it.
@@Vali_Z4ne now that is entertainment
The charm in Zentreya comes from the chemistry she has with her chat.
Also I don't give a shit about a vtuber's real gender. All I care for is entertainment.
Thank you for da answer
@@ScamboliReviews No probs dude.
I actually forgot I subscribed 🙃. Keep up the good work.👍
Can you make a video about your favourite animes and why.
I personally just don't like watching live streams period, be it vtuber or real face. I got a short attention span so if can skip around a video I lose interest fast. I can understand the love of vtubers tho, anime characters and such are pure perfection personified. Unblemished smooth skin, perfect hair how you want it, and ascetic improbable in real life with extreme freedom. Freedom of expression is one of the most appealing things in the world. One major reason why vrchat is popular. You can literally be anything you want.
I dunno how many people will see this, but Kizuna Ai's voice actor never changed. There was a time when there were other (I think 2) Kizunas that were subtly different, but they were played by other people and eventually became their own unique characters with their own designs. (One of them is named Love-chan, I believe) But the original was always the same person.
Black Ai is actually played by the original actor as well. As I remember, Black Ai is like an alter ego of Kizuna Ai so that makes sense.
She has a video explaining all of this so if you're curious I recommend looking it up.
Correct. The two that spon from her were named Love-chan and Ai-Pii who first got differentiated with Hairpins, then later got their own designs. Love-chan is the pink haired AI that sometimes collabs with Ai-chan in streams and videos. She has her own channel. AI-Pii is the other AI however has retired.
And
Bruh than doesn't change the fact that their early attempts at phasing out the original voice actor in favor of new additional ones proved the entire Kizuna AI endeavor to be incredibly mercenary. Any sense of authenticity was lost after that imo and anyone still watching is only there for superficial waifu-based reasons.
@@thegreatmoof The original companies attempts to make this transition backfired and ended up being controversial. Since then, Kizuna Ai's voice actor now has primary control of the brand and has publicized her role. I think it's unfair to assume that people still watching at this point are only there for superficial reasons.
@@thegreatmoof They didn’t try to phase her out. They tried to lighten the burden because she was experiencing an incredibly busy period doing daily uploads on 2 channels, preparing for live shows, taking vocal and dance lessons, and doing sponsorships.
"This new faction is called 'The Antis'"
For clarification's sake: They're a new faction introduced at that point in the video, but "anti" is just what haters are called in Japan, South-Korea, and most likely China, and other countries that dabble in the same otaku-weeby circles and are more likely to adopt those terms rather than "hater".
Well "antis" are a bit more stubborn than haters. From what I've gathered, "antis" seemed to be derived from the idea of being an anti-fan, similar to being "anti-social". A hater may intensely dislike something, but they won't actively try to disrupt and harm the things associated with it. Antis will follow the ones they hate, and actively try to ruin it, harm it, disrupt it, etc. similar to how a fan will follow the ones they are a fan.
And the worst of it? Those people think fictional characters are REAL!
@@VytoneJr True, there are old tales of Korean anti-fans leaving dead rats in the mailboxes of celebs they don't like (????!) so it's a bit of a step-up from how we use the term hater, yeah.
@@Raidanzoup also antis are not something exclusive to vtuber not by a long shot, idol groups and general celebrities in japan have had antis for decades already
and yeah asian countries are pretty extreme with the whole "retribution" thing, like one idol after it was discovered she had a boyfriend was forced by her "fans" to shave her head, compared to that shit getting some idiots rambing on twitter doesnt seem that bad (albeit cancel culture is slowly getting up there)
@@carso1500 Yeah, I just mentioned celebs having antis in a comment an hour ago. And if you're referring to Minegishi from AKB48 it's been said for a long time that she decided to shave her head on her own without consulting anyone beforehand, and her and her groupmates have been known to joke around about it, and everyone involved is most likely tired of hearing about it. 48G fans in particular roll their eyes out of their heads whenever it's brought up again. She's actually graduating from her idol life with a concert scheduled for May, I think.
I didnt know this video was all about a channel ad
Bro the 10 million yen converted to $6 was the funniest shit ive heard all week. I love that you didnt correct it, or give the real comversion. I cant express how hard that bit hit me
This vid is basically:
"The future is now old man."
the fact that holo live pulled out of china over “Taiwan” just made me want to get into v tubers. ty for enlightening me
There are many holes to the abyss.
Nah, they pulled out because they were too scared of a few Chinese fans and HoloCN didn't make them much money. They ended up pulling support from all of their partnered Chinese streamers when they really should have never had a Chinese branch to begin with.
@@Whack0 it's never about the money lol. You don't even know the whole story
@@Whack0 they chose Coco’s safety over the money they could keep making in China if they just fired her. they gave the talents there the right to their avatars, so they could still be streaming there if they wanted, just not under Hololive anymore. they could’ve made money; the toxic part of CN fanbase still stalks the other channels by the hundreds, but gets chat-banned en masse when they start spamming racist crap
@@shadi2962 While it is true that part of the company cared, last I checked Hololive isn’t a small company. Yes, some higher ups actually do care about the sanity of the talents, but do you think the execs and shareholders cared? Coco was the highest earning member and there was no way higher ups would let her go. Yet people try to say “but Hololive and Cover Corp. love their talents, they’re small companies!” They aren’t, they are still at heart a multi million dollar company, and the share holders will make the most profitable decision.
a fascinating video
like most others I put it in my task bar which is already far too filled up with videos I definitely TM will watch, but I finally got around to watching this
you made some pretty darn interesting points here, and even though I personally still enjoy vtubers, I now somewhat understand why you do not
but also please, kill me. I have now listened to grown ass men acting like babies unironically with vtuber avatars and it def. is a fetish thing that, while I do not judge exactly, I never, ever want to see or remember
I've always viewed vtubers as a branch of vrchat. Back in the early days before the idol companies, most vtubers just used avatars in place of facecams for privacy, and communicated just as if they were in vrchat. Early days of Senzawa and Nyanners was very different.