Scale Length & Dropped Tuning Talk + Riff
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- Опубліковано 26 кві 2020
- Erin talks a bit about scale length and dropped tuning. He then jams a recently made riff followed by some talk about a siiick band!
Guitar: Mayones Duvell Elite
Amp: Mesa Boogie TC100
Band: Car Bomb
#mayones #baritone #carbomb #droptuning
I just discovered this channel, and the band Car Bomb. This is great. That riff was sick, had me bobbin' my head.
I love playing my 7-string, and I'm always looking for more ways to improve my playing. I just happened to have bought a multiscale (25.5 to 27 scale), and I still own a 26.5 scale. Love both, and use both for different tones.
Thanks for the car bomb tip. I don’t know how I’ve never stumbled on them before.
Hello great video. for drop c tuning wich scale is the optimal? Also, the intro music is excellent
Honestly the lowest tuning I've ever been happy with on my 25.5" 7 string RG has been drop A# Everything below that I end up feeling like the tonal quality just falls off quick
Straight to the point, I like it. On 27 inch scale length having an evertune for a drop F tuning helps. In fact I would recommend only evertune guitars for those low tunings unless you are getting a 30 inch type Meshuggah ibanez! Good Video!
Nice!
Cool video. Just bought a 7 string 27 guitar. What string gauge would you recommend to play 2 whole steps down?
hell yeah carbomb
Real talk!
I agree with what your saying to an extent.. I have a 27 inch in drop f# 70-11 and if I measure the 1st fret it’s exactly 1.5 inches and I realized whatever tuning/ string gauge I have on my 27 will feel the same 1/2 step up on my 25.5 which is pretty cool … just some food for thought
I’m thinking of getting a 27 inch scale squier tele cabron it’s how low can I go with that by changing g thicker gage atrings
@@rogelioybarra4068 I feel like a 27 will do a low D but you’d probably want like a 85/90 gauge string .. I keep my 8 string in drop e with a 74 and it’s also 27in
Is it possible to tune to Drop E like Loathe on a 27inch baritone neck without tonal issues?
In your opinion, is there a big diffenrence between 26,5 and 27 inches scale for drop A ? Great video thanks.
tiny difference
I tried a 6 string 28 inch scale Chapman at a guitar center a couple months ago and hated it, the neck profile and the reach was just super uncomfortable for me however I own a 26.5" scale Ibanez RGD and I love that thing! Easily my favorite guitar that I've ever owned. I'm a shorter guy with small hands and I'm pretty satisfied with 26.5" - 27" scale length but beyond that, just doesn't work for me. The slimmer profile of the wizard neck may also be a factor. Either way, I don't go past drop A or G so I'm pretty content within those scale lengths. My recommendation for anyone reading this and is interested in baritones is to try different scale lengths and work your way up to figure out what works best for you and your needs.
Voideater- Chapman is a new company and i would spend my money other places, not surprised you didn't gel with it. Ibanez guitars are amazing , i absolutely love my mine. Agree with you 100 percent . Great company, especially the 2020 multi fret basses.
I think your spot on with the scale length advice, you have find what works best for you the player. Myself i prefer 28, that works good with my hands and like you said. I worked up to that length. I had a 28.5 fender jaguar for a short period but it wasn't all that, so i passed it on. Welcome to the channel, i hope you continue to post comments. I have some cool videos coming up. We shot the first 10 vids awhile ago. I do have 3 custom build videos coming soon. One is a killer 37 scale bass, not a Dingwall
Stay Awesome
@@baritonecult622 Thanks for creating baritone focused content, not many other channels cover it in depth other than the Bunn (love his content too!). Glad to see this channel carry the flame as well.
@@OldeGuarde your awesome man, i really appreciate you taking the time to be supportive . We've got a ways to go with this youtube thing. Content will get better and better . Stay Awesome
hi ..really nice video and have right.. spend well the money. By the way... that Mayones is scale 27 ....and the pickups..?
Ramon-Thanks for checking out the channel. The may ones is a 27 scale - Bare Knuckle Pickups
Nailbomb-bridge Cold sweat-neck
I have the Ibanez RGIB6 28" scale. Over the few years i've had it, I've slowly gone to lighter strings (i play in B standard). Any idea what the lightest string gauge I can use and still have enough tension, no fret buzz, and good intonation? It came with 68-14 (felt too heavy to me and my hands get fatigued i guess?), tried 13-59 (D'Addario baritone Light), but i currently use 12-62 (Mammoth Slinky)...Thanks
Bnoyz3- I personally like heavier gauges. I think you using 12-62 is probably a good gauge. You know you could always try DAddario 13-62 Baritone light, i know that are the same gauge
your using but you never know. As far as fret buzz and intonation bring it to a local luthier and have him set it up. Or if thats in your wheelhouse , fine tune it yourself. I know when i took mine to my luthier he was like your 3rd fret was messed up, he fixed it. I never would have knew about it and that was from the factory.
or or you could go to Kalium and order a custom set of stainless steel strings. I love those . I checked out Hydrilla Killer tracks
Stay Awesome
@@baritonecult622 thanks. Yeah, I used the DAddario 13-62 for a while before the Mammoth Slinkys. Just figured it'd be easier to bend on 12 vs 13...not that i'm a shredder or do many solos. Ha
I have a 25.5 RG which I'm using for drop b and drop a#, I keep toying with a baritone but I'm not sure if it's really necessary for those tunings
The rg has emgs and they just don't sound as good as my other guitars with bareknuckles (drop c, and e standard). I'm not sure if it's the pickups or scale length
Curtis Holmes - maybe ck out a baritone and see if you vibe with it. If you love the 25.5 then thats all that matters. You gotta do u brother
Cheers
Love this guitar. Been looking for this exact guitar and scale length for a minute, would you ever think about selling it to a fellow baritone nut? 😃
JB- what Baritone are you talking about, be a little more specific. Thanks man
Baritone Cult the Qatsi 7 you’ve got in this video 👍
JB , the 27 scale mayo duvell, i actually have been thinking about selling it. They are very rare , sold the green baritone early this year. Keep in contact
@@itsJB0513 Yeah i get you, im hanging onto this one. I had the green one also and sold it for $2200 over a year ago. I guy ended up selling it. The purple one just has that (Vibe) . I did just sell a killer EGC purple 27.78 last wk for $2500 that went in a day. my bad im rambling, I might be selling my 28 scale Regius, not sure yet. Maybe think on that.
Hy Sir, I am curious how a 27"scale 7 string would behave in Standard B tuning or Drop A tuning . Would it be difficult to play , do bends ... I mean the strings would be too tight. Right?
M confident about going low though.
Use thinner strings, problem solved
Is a 27” good enough to go low
I use a 27 inch scale 8 string with a low E and that low string is good till about the 7th fret. I don't use a longer scale because 27 is super comfortable to me and I am super happy with the tension of the other 7 strings. No reason to mess up the feel and tone of the rest of the guitar just to optimize that low string a bit more
Jacob--This is the stuff i like to see. If you love what your doing that's all that matters. Your the one playing it, so you should love it. Recently i was looking at the 27 scale 8 string ESPs, they are really making some killer Baritones. Super grateful you joined the channel. Thanks for commenting and interacting Erin
@@baritonecult622 seems like you've got an awesome channel going dude. I actually owned one of the Ibanez Meshuggah signature models and the scale length was just absurd. Like a neck that long and wide just wasn't for me even though the low string intonated properly. Also my 8 string I use primarily my Jericho just sounds way better and has way more attack. I've played 8s for awhile and just due to the nature of how they are I think it's best to not get too hung up on the intonation of the low string simply because every other string will intonate perfectly so it isn't like you are losing any range. Just have to be concious about it and play around it a bit. No big deal
@@jacobhalsey1393 Bro this is hilarious, when we were messaging last night about your 27 scale and 8 string stuff etc. Its just weird because i have the ibanez m80m being delivered in a few days. Weird you end up telling me you had one.
I gotta get back to playing but please comment again. I might need advice ,
Thanks Erin
@@baritonecult622 that's sweet I hope it works out for you.
The things that led to me getting rid of that guitar were ultimately
It sounding dull (I assume because of the bridge)
The scale length combined with wide neck was just obnoxious to play.
The way the locking nut is the strings end up not being spaced perfectly so they are slightly closer together in groups of 2 which really threw off some of my tapping stuff.
And lastly not being able to adjust the string heights individually. With a scale that is that long ideally you want to be able to fine tune the height of every string but the way that bridge is you can't.
I will say though the guitar held tuning fantastically.
Personally I would really recommend you look into Jericho, I have a fusion ignition 8 that retailed for like 700 bucks or something but it blows that m80m and my ibanez prestige 8 string out of the water. I've had that guitar for two years at this point and only had to touch the truss rod once. It is ungodly stable and holds tune like nobody's business.
@@jacobhalsey1393 sounds like you know that m80m good, i hope i vibe with it at least a little. Im gonna ck out that Jericho and look into that company. Ill be back in touch. Hey thanks again for sharing your knowledge, that's cool of you.
How do you feel drop G on 6 string baritone? Like solar a1.6atg model?
espguitarsown Hey brother , 6 string baritones are killer. Keep in mind
27 scale will do A
28 scale will do G pretty good
28.5 scale and up does G killer
I personally use 28.7 im using a 70 gauge -G
Now you can tune to G on a 27 but 27 will do A great . Hope this helps , keep in mind i record with these things , so i need good intonation etc.
This is what works for me , Cheers BC
@@baritonecult622 awesome! Thanks for the response! Do you have any brands I can check out that make a 28" scale or 28.5" scale? I'm having a hard time looking for one. I found an ibanez rgIb21 28" but I want more options. Thanks!
@@espguitarsown Happy to info share brother. Baritone shopping can be a bit tricky. I have a Ibanez 28 scale, its nice but usually lend it out. Does G good and w the right pickups sounds and plays great.
It really depends on your price range. I have a few favorites, one i believe you can get right now. Fender jag japan made baritone 28.9 scale. I did put some work into it but it just stomps. I think there is one for $1700 out there .
or you could grab a Danelectro Baritone , get a Korean made (used) 29.75 scale $700. One thing to keep in mind, if your currently playing a 27 scale or maybe thats the only Bari you've owned. You have adjustments (hands-dexterity) nothing wrong w moving your way up to see what you like . Or just go for it, regardless a 28 scale is a way better starting point than a 27. I still use my 27 once in a while.
Last to remember, if song writing is your goal a 37 scale bass kills in A and does G pretty good. I can help you w any of that later. Nothing better that a long scale Bari dialed in to perfection. Cheers BC
you hit me up any time
So is 27” too small for drop f# or around that?
I’m in love with LTD sct607b but it’s unfindable, I find this LTD sn1007 but very little reviews around. Also now I don’t understand maybe 7 string 27” is too short for around drop f#
Hey brother havent seen your videos in awhile and obviously i didnt get to win that prs mike mushok that i still want to get one day but a month or month snd half ago i bought my first baritone and let me tell you how much better it is instead of playing a dropped tune seven string when you can tune it bassicly the same mine is the esp ltd mh-401b fm baritone the only thing i dont really care about are the active emgs that comes with it if i had the smarts i probly would put either some kind of dimarzios in or bare knuckles or def some seymour duncans
Donny- Im going through my messages, my bad for not seeing this months ago. Congrats on your Bari and yes they are bad ass when dialed in-tuned low. This is why were all crazy for them. Stay tuned because we are still giving that PRS Baritone away at 1000 subs. Cheers BC