Yeah he too soft and buddy-buddy for NBA, but college players will have respect and actually listen. First time jj gets pushback from a star guarantee he’s tucking his tail
Indy > cavs Indy has two all-nba guys. Haliburton has flashed the highest upside of any player on both teams. He’ll continue to get better. Myles turner stretching the floor - huge spacing unlock. A better coach n system - already #1 offense in the league. And they have more upside w their young guys. Nembhard nesmith Mathuren etc should all get better and are great upside plays as trade pieces. Cavs roster construction is nutty. They don’t have a coach. Their franchise player Mobley is overrated atp bc he’s legit limited offensively. They prob get 75 cents in the dollar for garland bc he’s coming off a bad szn. Sure they can Improve through trades but there’s way more uncertainty there. So they have a lower floor AND I don’t think you can argue they have a higher upside than Indy
Reminiscent of the Rockets vs Warriors where Harden was the only option, all the other guys were struggling vs Warriors who had consistent offense from everyone and Steph was struggling
1:12:03 the Pacers will pay Obi this off season so he can be used as salary filler for a trade when the time comes. Also they are not a second apron team they are barley above the cap after they pay Obi and Pascal
I dont think Celtics are a superteam. To be a super team you need to be stacked AND so far above the rest of the league that its unfair. The KD Warrios were stacked and above everyone else by a large gap with 2 top 5 players and 2 top 25 players at the time. The league now is the most talented its been so many team have comparable talent even though the Celtics has the most of anyone, but its not too an unfair degree. I think teams like the Nuggets, Bucks and Wolves could give them a run for their money. Boston has Tatum who is a top 10 player and Brown who is a top 20. Porzingus and Holiday are proven all-stars. Dwhite is Star ROLE PLAYER. Hes like a Naz Reid or Alex Caruso for the team. Really talented two-way team, but i think OKC can develop players to be this talented. Some teams are a free agent away from being this talented.
As a Knicks fan, Joel cannot be more wrong about this Knicks team smh. We have a great team and he thinks the best course for our future is to break it up 🤦♂️
@@pickaside the only thing that stood in front of the Knicks this year and a shot at the title was health, plain and simple. If the Knicks run it back with this current team that is bought in they will be the same problem they were post trade deadline. A trade will only derail what we have created.
Miami Heat so disrespected after having the the top 5 most injuries in league only one to make playoffs Heat had the most different starting lineups in regular season that actually made playoffs
Thinking the pacers have a brighter future than the cavs is nasty work. Also Jarrett Allen got hurt game 4 of the Orlando series & is a big part why that series went 7 games because he was killing them the first 3 games.
That changed when we put WCJ back in the starting lineup. Coach made a mistake putting JI in to match up with Allen. Blew yall out in game 3 and 4 when we swapped them
I don’t really understand the logic of saying , “Boston winning despite sub par Tatum games makes them a superteam” If you look at that Indy series Tatum played properly the best series of his career, but 3/4 games went down to the wire , does that mean the team isn’t as good ?
hurley made a wise decision turning down the lakers. as long as lenarcissist is on that team it is a bad move for any respectable coach outside of just the money.
Yooo when comparing teams or players just swap them in situations I watched yall go cavs vs pacers for od long if cavs had the same gauntlet to the ECf pacers had they would’ve done the same thing
J Hurt ‘Em (I have no better nickname) will not be a top 3 MVP candidate, because he will be THE FUCKING MVP oh yeah and Hurts > Allen I’m tired of the overhyping of Allen. He’s amazing but not better than Hurts, Burrow, Mahomes and the case is still there for Herbo. Lastly Hurts is top 10 solidified. It’s not debatable.
Bruh drew is disgusting saying we when talking about 3-1 comeback vs warriors when he don’t even support the cavs no more 😭🤮sick work man have some shame lmaooo
@@LSUHutz lol I gotchu bro but the topic was cavs not lebron so saying we in that context refers to the cavs but I get it drew is a bron guy so he meant we as in lebron lol
@@Shortballa11 I mean the Mavs got the best scenario for all these lol, legit all they needed is for one of them to not happen and they're not in it if that makes sense
Joel is usually a good podcaster and analyst, until he isn’t. The urge to be different is so annoying sometimes man. The contrarian mindset puts you in these situations where you’re really vying for PHI and IND near futures over NYK. As close to objectively incorrect as you can get. Just silly stuff and he dies on every hill. Pod ends up just going in circles over nonsense when he gets in that mode lol
Joel proves once again, that Drew is the Knicks guy
3 hours?? you guys blessing us 😭🙏🏻
Dehls doubling down on the “ He’s got a big load 😏” and no one noticing is hilarious
I think JJ reddick would be 5x better as a college coach then an NBA coach. I think he’d really excel in college
Yeah he too soft and buddy-buddy for NBA, but college players will have respect and actually listen. First time jj gets pushback from a star guarantee he’s tucking his tail
Indy > cavs
Indy has two all-nba guys. Haliburton has flashed the highest upside of any player on both teams. He’ll continue to get better. Myles turner stretching the floor - huge spacing unlock. A better coach n system - already #1 offense in the league. And they have more upside w their young guys. Nembhard nesmith Mathuren etc should all get better and are great upside plays as trade pieces.
Cavs roster construction is nutty. They don’t have a coach. Their franchise player Mobley is overrated atp bc he’s legit limited offensively. They prob get 75 cents in the dollar for garland bc he’s coming off a bad szn. Sure they can Improve through trades but there’s way more uncertainty there. So they have a lower floor AND I don’t think you can argue they have a higher upside than Indy
we so here 3 hour pod
so the Bucks are absolutely mid with a fallen off Dame, "washed" Khris yet had the #2 seed on lock for 99% of the szn LMAO.
Y’all taking the Lakers over Giannis is crazy. Let that man be healthy next playoffs and ppl gonna owe a lot of apologies
Reminiscent of the Rockets vs Warriors where Harden was the only option, all the other guys were struggling vs Warriors who had consistent offense from everyone and Steph was struggling
Luv yall sm man
Waller was the leading te in yards before his injury…..he may have stayed banged up but calling him a zero is crazy
They dkb
Damn what’s with the Cavs hate?💀
1:12:03 the Pacers will pay Obi this off season so he can be used as salary filler for a trade when the time comes. Also they are not a second apron team they are barley above the cap after they pay Obi and Pascal
I'm so late asf but PICKKK AAA SIDDEEE
add p back to the pod, last time was lowkey havoc 😂
FUCK NO. Keep that man away
Joel just be talking out his ass it be so frustrating to watch
I love the DT respect his peak was odee! Glad y’all respected my boy🥲 #Broncos Country
No way in hell Vikes lose to the Falcons at home
I dont think Celtics are a superteam. To be a super team you need to be stacked AND so far above the rest of the league that its unfair. The KD Warrios were stacked and above everyone else by a large gap with 2 top 5 players and 2 top 25 players at the time. The league now is the most talented its been so many team have comparable talent even though the Celtics has the most of anyone, but its not too an unfair degree. I think teams like the Nuggets, Bucks and Wolves could give them a run for their money.
Boston has Tatum who is a top 10 player and Brown who is a top 20.
Porzingus and Holiday are proven all-stars. Dwhite is Star ROLE PLAYER. Hes like a Naz Reid or Alex Caruso for the team. Really talented two-way team, but i think OKC can develop players to be this talented. Some teams are a free agent away from being this talented.
Joel Moran less of a Knicks fan than Stephen A Smith
If having Jrue Holiday (who is an Olympian and an All Star) as your FIFTH BEST PLAYER isn’t a Super Team, then there is no such thing as a Super Team.
It’s a super squad super team require ur star to play good or ur not winning
Joel what size you get in those bembury crocs ? True to size or size down ? I heard mixed reviews on those crocs
Size down bro they fit kind of big
Steve smith clears Thomas/White and Andre Johnson was great tbh
Banchero getting the credit he deserves love to see it!
Didnt realize JSN had that many drops lowkey wild
1:54:46 riv and these lists fucking em up keep it going brodie
Despite the Loss Man vs Despite the Win Man
The mf in the finals 💀
As a Knicks fan, Joel cannot be more wrong about this Knicks team smh. We have a great team and he thinks the best course for our future is to break it up 🤦♂️
I don’t want to break it up. But realistically the Knicks only shot at a title is by getting another star paired with Brunson
@@pickaside the only thing that stood in front of the Knicks this year and a shot at the title was health, plain and simple. If the Knicks run it back with this current team that is bought in they will be the same problem they were post trade deadline. A trade will only derail what we have created.
@@-adrian-9103instead of the pacers, you run into the bucs or celtics in the ecf and lose again.
@@pickaside im with you. They work hard, but obviously not talented enough as is.
@@-adrian-9103 im cool with running it back. i love this current knicks team. im just being realistic about what needs to happen
Miami Heat so disrespected after having the the top 5 most injuries in league only one to make playoffs Heat had the most different starting lineups in regular season that actually made playoffs
nothing beats late 2000s to mid 2010s WRS great list riv... these lil tiktok kids dont know nothing about these receivers
siakam was a championship second option 5 years ago, aint no way riv deadass said that was a decade ago lmfao, crazy hater
naw that demaryius thomas part had me sick to my stomach.... i feel your pain drew.
Steve smith over Andre Johnson has me scratching my head and that’s no disrespect to the boy Steve smith.
Since when did a superteam become a homegrown team built with trades? Wasnt it always a team like the Heatles or KD Warriors?
Thinking the pacers have a brighter future than the cavs is nasty work. Also Jarrett Allen got hurt game 4 of the Orlando series & is a big part why that series went 7 games because he was killing them the first 3 games.
That changed when we put WCJ back in the starting lineup. Coach made a mistake putting JI in to match up with Allen. Blew yall out in game 3 and 4 when we swapped them
Allen and Mobley don’t play well together. Cavs might’ve lost
The kupp disrespect is crazy
I don’t really understand the logic of saying , “Boston winning despite sub par Tatum games makes them a superteam”
If you look at that Indy series Tatum played properly the best series of his career, but 3/4 games went down to the wire , does that mean the team isn’t as good ?
hurley made a wise decision turning down the lakers. as long as lenarcissist is on that team it is a bad move for any respectable coach outside of just the money.
We here
so if booker doesnt get put on the trade market wtf yall predicting for the pacers/magic?
right cuz i doubt they blow this Suns team up this year. I'd still go Magic because I have more faith in their supporting young cast to get better
Yooo when comparing teams or players just swap them in situations I watched yall go cavs vs pacers for od long if cavs had the same gauntlet to the ECf pacers had they would’ve done the same thing
Let em fucking know about Paolo RIV!!!!!! My boy was cooking like hot fish grease with that take!!!!
I’m so ready for bball to be over
Pacers went to the ECF but still gets disrespected here...
J Hurt ‘Em (I have no better nickname) will not be a top 3 MVP candidate, because he will be THE FUCKING MVP oh yeah and Hurts > Allen I’m tired of the overhyping of Allen. He’s amazing but not better than Hurts, Burrow, Mahomes and the case is still there for Herbo. Lastly Hurts is top 10 solidified. It’s not debatable.
Bruh drew is disgusting saying we when talking about 3-1 comeback vs warriors when he don’t even support the cavs no more 😭🤮sick work man have some shame lmaooo
We as in LeBron he doesn’t have a team just like i don’t we just support the King
@@LSUHutz yall glazing bron 😂the cavs made that come back not bron alone 😂
@@Seem612 i get that but he’s a bron fan not a cavs fan it’s not that hard to understand… whatever team bron is on he’s a fan of.
@@LSUHutz lol I gotchu bro but the topic was cavs not lebron so saying we in that context refers to the cavs but I get it drew is a bron guy so he meant we as in lebron lol
Steve smith sr slander is crazy on here
They to young to understand he was a beast
Cavs hate kinda pissed me off but imma let folks get it off 😂
2:23:45 Lol
Realistically, if Kawhi was healthy, KAT didn't choke and the Thunder had a bit more experience, would the Mavs even get to the finals?
Kawhis always unhealthy, KAT always chokes, and the Thunder not having experience this year are the most realistic things.
@@Shortballa11 I mean the Mavs got the best scenario for all these lol, legit all they needed is for one of them to not happen and they're not in it if that makes sense
Celtics also got unbelievable luck on their run.. You kinda need that to make the finals.
@@LSUHutz bro the celtics are stacked, any team facing them needs luck to win
If "if" was a fifth, we'd all be drunk.
Joel is usually a good podcaster and analyst, until he isn’t. The urge to be different is so annoying sometimes man. The contrarian mindset puts you in these situations where you’re really vying for PHI and IND near futures over NYK. As close to objectively incorrect as you can get. Just silly stuff and he dies on every hill. Pod ends up just going in circles over nonsense when he gets in that mode lol
They all really sleep on DK
How Zion over Paolo?????????
1. Andre Johnson 2. Demaryius Thomas 3. Brandon Marshall 4. Ochocinco 5. Steve Smith 6. Roddy White
Omg the kid in the middle is terrible, I try to give it a listen sometimes I just can’t. Dehls congrats Celtics
Vikes goin 10-7
How can luka play better? Lmao. Coooooooked
Dreeeewww respect the raiders the donkeys have yet to beat them
Olave respect🫶🏽
Yessir
Tre tucker is good drew respect him
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Cavs vs Pacers debate?? Bro who is in charge of these boring topics
It wasn’t a specific topic it was a topic within a topic
Omg the kid in the middle is terrible, I try to give it a listen sometimes I just can’t. Dehls congrats Celtics